Day 2 of testimony in Karen Read murder trial
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- Testimony continues for a second day in the Karen Read murder trial with the cross-examination of Canton police officer Steve Saraf. Read is accused of hitting and killing her Boston police officer boyfriend, John O'Keefe, with her SUV.
I’ve never in my life heard of a judge that doesn’t want to hear the grounds for any objections and that is SO unbelievably biased. Can’t believe this level of blatant corruption exists in America.
Maybe because the judge and the lawyer both know the rules of procedure. It's not t.v.
Yes, because in terms of appeal it’s going to be impossible to know if Lally objected on hearsay grounds but she sustained on relevance grounds. It’s a big mess, in the Depp V. Heard case Judge Ascarotti did it perfectly: “Objection, Hearsay” -“Overruled on hearsay” -“Okay objection relevance ?” -“sustained” (that’s a good Judge).
She knows the family of these corrupt people.. pay attention kids
The cops never even knock on the homeowner’s door to question why a dead person is in front of the house 🙄🤷♀️
Not quite true 🙄
Because people were already at the scene. The cops didn’t go next door, either.
@@susanmitchell9257that is true.. Karen read is innocent and set up.. have you been watching? Family member maybe?
@@susanmitchell9257Yes it is!
Karen Read💞 is innocent
She's as guilty as the day as long.
@@kayvee9094okay sheep
Not😂
@@kayvee9094WRONG
@@kayvee9094 your wrong...... you must be a friend or family of the Alberts......
That judge is shying so heavily, we can hear you. What's her problem, need more coffee. Team Karen!
Karen is Innocent. Those cops are lying and sticking together. As cops usually do
Do you mean "sighing?"
Becuase the lawyer is asking ridiculously over-detailed questions. I'm sighing too.
So an investigation starts from ththe inside out…. The spot of the crime is your first place unless there is bias, to go straight to the girlfriends house who was the only one providing life saving measures, that’s completely out of the box of normal investigative measures. There had to have been prior knowledge of something. On top of all
Of the other inconsistencies SO FAR we’ve not even made it to the good parts I cant believe a grand jury indicted this. It’s only bc it was an officer involved. Any other victim would not have gotten the person indicted but because other officers testified they believed them. I have many law enforcement family members so I’m not bias towards all there’s bad apples everywhere
No one in the house including cop that lived there did not come outside to render CPR or first aid. Shameful! And no one reported hearing the dog bark. All BS.
Bedroom is front corner of the house and the dog is a psycho @mauiswift6391
EVERYTIME THIS GUY LIES HIS FACE TURNS BRIGHT RED. A BUNCH OF LIARS .
There are other reasons also but you go with your own theory
RIGHT 🤥
And if YOU were on the stand I'm SURE you'd look pitch white & nice & calm. Get wrecked !
This lawyer is fantastic, the state of Massachusetts is gonna lose this case and be sued
Not.
@@godzillamanstreb524These cops are Guilty and covering for each others, they are all BUDDIES.KAREN IS INNOCENT
Bingo ! Yess soo many fill in blanks and minutes cut on video surveillance from Canton library when they sent original one VS the one Canton police sent to prosecutors alot cut police reports no ring cams around neighborhood that was working. The Alberts got rid of the family dog of 6 or 7 years to Vermont, removed the basement floors within months of death of him, sold the house for less then 50k than the price it was worth.
I disagree because there has been numerous coverups that have been demonstrated to the court. This in itself presents reasonable doubt.
@@dianaL579-why is selling the house and removing the dog an issue? There was no canine DNA found on JOKs arm wounds or clothing. That's because his wounds were caused by Karen Read's vehicle.
And what point are you insinuating by saying the house was sold???
No one searched that house!! What a bunch of BS!! If someone was found on my property…. And I knew him….They certainly would have searched my residence….
Wow!!! Unbelievable!!
And they couldn’t seem to get the address # correct??? 🤔 Well that’s weird!
They canton police have to halt any further investigation if there’s a homicide and defer to the state police, which they did go in the house. They just aren’t there yet in the trial. I am not sure why that wasn’t brought up though in the testimonies
What's obvious is the lawyer is trying to lead people like you on the jury to think what you're thinking. Hopefully somebody on the jury can think critically so we can arrive at some truth.
@@mauiswift6391It wasn't brought up because the defense is deliberately making the police look incompetent or corrupt.
@@BitsyBee umm, no I’m no follower, I go by facts as stated in the court documents and now in the trial entered into the evidence.
Why is it that cops can answer as many times as they want “I don’t recall” but once anyone else does it’s unacceptable? Horrible “justice” system we have. I hope she’s found not guilty and sues the 💩 out of them all.
How do you find a body in the front yard and think it is appropriate to not search a property too? That’s a little crazy to be a cop and be good with that answer
When they are your Buddies in the house
Especially if she actually said she hit him. They would have at very least taped it off and questioned the home owners. Geeez that is so obvious
Because it was another cop who the cops on scene wanted to protect because he was one of them. Corruption is the only reason.
Do the cops search nearby properties every time there's an accident?
@@carolwilliams894If there's a lady saying she hit him, case solved. Why would they need to search? What would they be looking for?
The judge is being so unprofessional and keeps loudly sighing anytime the defense questions witnesses. She also keeps siding with prosecution and blocking the defense from asking questions.
You know I did hear that sighing as well. I thought that was the attorney. I did not believe it was a judge, but I could be wrong, but I have not heard that since, but I’m glad somebody else knows that as well is very, very noticeable the judges demeanor she really seems right on top of it, the Attorney is in the top so she’s doing what she needs to do overall since then I think she has some that the attorney defense attorney often asked the question knowing that will be it will not be allowed to be answered but that still important not everyone understands that was so important because of jury Kent on here the question so good defense attorneys like this guy will many questions very pointed like a little seeds of doubt that they try to plant in addition to the other work but he’s a spot on the judges as well. I think she’s tired at times kind of like a marathon defense on their game, any curious to think what you thought since that day
Oh the sighs are the judge! Omg so unprofessional
I thought it was the camera person.
Watched these backwards but day 2 sighing, day 3 coughing. Are they really cuing the witness?
I heard that!! Judge is rude, typical
10:00 😮😂 your honor sounded like she was sleeping, also her sighs are insanely loud. Someone said she calls for a "sigh-bar"
Is that the judge that keeps sighing loudly in the background???
😂😂😂 yes I noticed it too 😂
Her name is Auntie Bev she only does it for the defense. Her brother was a lawyer I'm not sure still might be but got one of the Albert's off on a vehicular homicide Auntie Bev and her family have been covering for these people's murders for years. Nothing new
And she sounds all sexy when she talks. Weird 🙄
She has the best mic in the house and I'm sighing too. This lawyer is torture.
It's disturbing this guy was ever a cop. I sure hope they do the right thing and put this liar on the Brady list.
Defense has blown holes all over the states case!!!
Where?
When she told her sister-in-law the day John died, that she has to remember the bad times, she was forgiving herself for what had happened.
@@kayvee9094wasn’t her sister-in-law, it’s Johnny’s.
I hope the defense can show inconsistency enough to impeach.
This judge is bias and unprofessional. Also the lead investigator is being investigated by the FBI and is still on the case and it’s not allowed in the trial…. That’s bs this is a persons LIFE if someone dies from a police shooting they take the person off duty at least for a moment. And that person is already dead so no more damage can be done…. In this case damage is still being done
I heard her say he never came home 🏡 why is the judge mad 😆 Let us hear it again. 👂
Exactly
Foreal ..... This so call judge is known to the Alberts Family that's why
Judge had some balls “ are we keeping you up?”
AND A women goes into the house yet this clown doesnt go inside to see what they find in there another dead body maybe- a police officers house and the tenants the cop does not come out. Why?
Good point! No one in the house came out. Cops should check the house to see if everyone inside the house is also dead. This is nuts.
Jen ran into the house through the front door is a customary that they would leave their front door unlocked with that dog there come on
@@sheilafirmin5257jen knew the dog left with caitlyn and tristen
What a liar this guy is- so obvious.
Great attorney -
How is this poor girl even on trial right nowWatching this makes me sick
Because she won't confess to the most reasonable cause of the accident. So here we are.
@@BitsyBee apparently your not watching the trial. The lies are ridiculous
Was Johnny wearing a jumper or jacket leaving the bar? No one has brought this up? It's bloody cold .... If he left the bar with proper clothing how did he end up with scratches on his arms!! The defence or prosecution hasn't discussed this, why not?
The scratches from the night before?
He has layers on with some type of hoodie as the outer shell. We have to wait until the ME to hear about scratches.
The scratches were deep, more like an open wound not just a scratch
I still don't think those are scratches, they're contusions, bruises, from having heavy weight roll across his arm, tire indentations, imo. Blood seeps through the pores. They're common in hit and run accidents. That's what they look like to me ...
@@pattibarnett1142his arm would be shattered for sure if it was tire imprints. And also I assume whatever clothes he does have on have to have marks /tears
Watch this as the Masterclass it is in linguistic surgery and how this logic and linguistic surgeon is able to control the narrative AND questions. Pay attention to the way he uses his voice how quickly he tries to get answers trying to either get agreement or point errors by individuals questioning as opposed to the prosecution those attorneys which individual prosecuting attorneys or the defense attorneys to you is the top gun in this room today ? in defense dissecting witnesses. D-atty also had Canton PD Dtx & Ofcrs appearing to be lackadaisical in their constitution. Matter of fact, ambulance driver appeared better, equipped, even though officers most likely testified more frequently, so it would be more experienced. Not exactly a focused, determined group of individuals taking police work i.e. their jobs as critically important to others, including victim and individual charged. One gets the sense at times minimum wage workers could have produced better report that night.
Finally, pay attention to the questions D Attorney asked which she knew were going to be objected to and sustained. Purposely pay attention because it happens so quickly if you’re a most likely, you are not hearing the prosecution objection to your question and the judges sustaining of your objection so, as a jury, you are most likely hearing that question intentionally asked by the defense attorney that it would be objected to by prosecution and even though it wouldn’t be overruled, the jury would still be hearing what you want them to hear. This is critically important. This is a beautiful tactic and I’m surprised the judge. She has been very quick to rule she has not seen the pattern and sidebar the attorneys over to put on notice. Very intentional questions to get evidence in to plant into the juries, mine ears brain highly unlikely remember the sustained objections brilliant attorney work also not who has control of each and every individual testify which attorney is the defense attorney or is it the prosecution? In my opinion, the prosecution does not know how to tell a story and I believe the jurors are likely picking up on that fact.
Even if you never practice law or go in front of a judge, this kind of a case, it is a wonderfully beautiful to witness. An excellent surgeon might say surgeon of linguistics a surgeon of fact, a surgeon of opinion all to influence the decision opinion and decision of those who sit in judgment. Masterful & beautiful work.
I agree with you
@@superbaddctv
Did you actually read that sermon? 🙄
@Mac-sb5lj nope. I didn't lol 😂
Almost like a person on the spectrum (rain man) so incredibly intelligent.. very quick this attorney..Bravo!!!
The loud sighing of the judge is ridiculous.
She is always moving around on her chair like she's really uncomfortable!
The judge seems annoyed with the defence. She appears to clearly favour the prosecution. 😮
It's not that the judge favors the prosecution, IMHO. It's the fact that this nutball defense lawyer is going into WAY too much detail like having the witness describe an endotrachial tube or vent mask. I'm annoyed too.
@@BitsyBeewell love the entire united states is outraged at this entire police force, judge, DA and the irish mafia in canton MA.
Cops can't recall much
Objections constantly! Sustained constantly! The witness described the scratches.
These comments are so off the base. He doesn’t seem nervous at all. He’s professional
All theses lying cops! How is a dispatch report so messed up. Then the two cops listed the incorrect address they went to!
Both husband and wife who “ sleep with their phones” got phone calls SEPARATELY they deny ever happened even though it shows on the phone log
Why would you get rid of a Family Dog of 7 yrs . ... move and get rid of your phone RIGHT AFTER this happened .....
I understood that the basement was totally done over floor and all before they sold the house in the swimming pool was filled in. I want to know who the contractors were was anything unusual in that basement and what was in the pool before it was filled in and why
I find the Judge’s audible exhalations w defense during cross disgusting. She doesn’t do this w Lally who is frustrating bc can’t be heard; during monotonous, repetitive questions like first year trial attorney. I don’t care which “one side” she does this for, it’s blatant bias. It’s clear her face during these gasps of frustration would change as well. All of this animus towards one side could sway a jury during a trial in and of itself. I hope someone lets her know to stop or that combined w rulings which seem quite often one sided, doesn’t show her as a fair judge calling balls and strikes. WOW!
24 paramedic shift! That's insane!
Defense attorney Alan Jackson A+. Officer Steven Saraf F+.
😂😂 she's not going to say "I hit him" what a joke question. These Lawyers 🙄 how about did you do something to him & then pour water on him & he froze? Shes guilty & a horrible person her & her friend. Who the hell would look up what she looked up on her phone 🤔....
We’ve seen what’s happening to trump so it should suprise me that this is happening but I’m still shocked if she’s found guilty then you know the jury was tampered too
I knew someone was going to bring tRUMP into this some how.You Cult members never fail us
Bahahaha "funniest/most irrelevant" comment award goes to you. Cheers lol
If she's not guilty, what was the cause of death and what was the motive? She and Higgins so far are the only ones with motive.
There's always that someone that has to compare a trial to the Trump trial.
This judge curiously seems curt, averse, and hurried during Jackson's cross examination, where none that was apparent during direct.
WORSE Cop EVER !
224.. case closed.. cover up
The sighing judge seems 2hav a prob with:Alan(the:Defence)?!
Nuttall us VERY nervous on the stand. Shaky voice for a firefighter /ems personnel. Over talking his resume, no one understands his high pitched shaky Boston accent its very choppy listening to him
Why wasn't the house searched because it's the home of a police officer. All the police officers involved already had their suspect start in their eyes so they weren't going to investigate they were just going through the Motions to make it look good that they showed up at the scene
How often do cops search a nearby property after a motor vehicle accident? Never.
He doesn't remember when ....
What or how unless he sees the reports 😂😂
Well if he makes a mistake or a slight change in detail this lawyer is going to pounce on him as a liar. It's been a few years since the incident and these guys have been involved in many incidents since. Why wouldn't he ask to read the record before testifying?
Karen McCabe's testimony was pathetic. She couldn't remember anything!
KAREN READ is Innocent absolutely Innocent
What’s sad is even if there is an honest cop within a group of corrupt cops…that innocent man will go along with whatever to protect himself and his livelihood out of fear of serious retaliation. Thus the cycle of corruption continue goes on and on. That corruption often goes through the ranks to protect their own. I’m just sharing a thought and not speaking directly to this case as I’m just starting to listen to it. Whatever the truth may be, I pray that God has his hand on this case and the truth can’t be hidden.
Damn Karen is Smoke🌹❤️
he had several layers on where his clothes?
I guess we should be surprised & possibly even horrified that John as a deceased police officer has been treated unfairly. I’ve actually heard through rumour that the Boston Police are notoriously known for cover-ups! I’m gathering from the complete lack of professional protocol being followed; that it’s all about rank and who’s your buddy.
Oh my Gosh, someone going in the home?
Why does Lally say "sort of " in every question?
Didn't know that:Off.John was partially unclothed,wonder wht happened 2him,before he was placed outside 2die?Evil 2core*
I don’t understand why judge is sustaining a lot of the questions.
Because the lawyer is breaking rules of procedure and he knows it, he doesn't argue back when the judge sustains an objection from the other side.
@@BitsyBee works both ways. Hence why I’ve asked.
Horrible judge
They would have written in their reports that she was suffering shock!
Shock is a medical term. Karen wasn't in the kind of shock caused by allergy or blood loss. Paramedics don't get to diagnose a bystander's mental condition. They only get to describe behaviors and symptoms, and they were busy with the victim, not Karen.
Crooked cops 👮
These cops remind me of old man PETERSON THE COP WHO KILLED HIS WIFE OR WIFES
Prosecutor is so slow. And he ask so many stupid unnecessary questions. Move along.
The defense is acting stupid .s
@jfk33975. Really? I think they are doing awesome. You must be an Albert or McCabe & friend because they are the only ones who don’t like the defense.
Oh that’s terrible the lies
Didn't she admit to running him over with her SUV?
Why, oh why are most comments saying she is innocent? I can't see how they are reach such a loonie conclusion. 🤔
Then answer why the women in the house googled how long a body can survive in the cold? Just curious????
Guess she'll have to testify to why. It was said in opening statements that Karen asked her to google it. @@carolwilliams894
She never admitted to anyone about "running" him over
A couple first responders said they heard her say , I hit him. Could I have hit him etc..but none of that was on.record. it got brought up once trial was starting. There are So many inconsistencies here.
She said "I hit him?!"
Not "I HIT HIM!"
Are you Jen M????
All of them lying
Karen is lying too.
I’m firm believer of waiting for the trial to show all of the evidence, but the fact that she admitted to hitting him and that she wanted to take her life speaks volumes!! Not to mention the fact that when she backed out of her driveway she intentionally hit John’s car…she was a heavy drinker and I don’t even think she realized what had happened. I will definitely be locked in to watch the outcome!
Did you not hear multiple people having different accounts of exactly what she said?
And did you not hear the job that the officers did in investigating this whole case?
Maybe she frantically thought that it was a possibility that maybe she hit him.
Maybe she was panicking because she thought she actually hit him…. Certainly does not mean it was on purpose.
So maybe she did say it. Or maybe she said, did I hit him? !
The point is, once officers heard that she said something to that effect, they jumped on it and all of a sudden, they have their suspect..
They certainly had nothing else to go on, because they didn’t investigate anything or anyone else.
Have you ever seen traffic stops when one officer pulls over another law-enforcement officer, and how crappy of an investigation they do. And do you know why that is?
It is so the intoxicated driver does not get in trouble and The officer conducting the traffic stop, can claim ignorance.
Evidence is on a fine timeline. So they do a bad job, complete the traffic stop or in this case, open the crime scene,… there’s no going back.
No evidence will be preserved, and there is no way to go back in time and prove a person’s guilt. They get off.
Not sure if they are framing Karen Read or not, but they certainly didnt do anything to find out what really happened or whether this person is someone that deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison.
@@justicefor-all3129 that’s a whole novel you wrote lol why don’t we wait for the child to finish? 🤦🏻♀️
@@justicefor-all3129They had no real reason to investigate because it looked like a motor vehicle accident and they had someone at the scene asking if, or saying, she hit him.
Not guilty
Guilty
Defense team is already kicking but I don't believe she's guilty and at the end of the day she could have said this is all my fault because she left him there I mean she's fighting for her life right now in a few weeks if she was feeling guilty her life would be done there's no way she's not guilty I don't understand if she backed into him he wouldn't make sense if you get out of the passenger side you're going to get out and walk straight not behind the car 🚗🚨
There's a million scenarios to explain what happened but she's not saying. He might not have been all the way out of the car when she took off.
Why did that dumb lawyer nake him describe a cpr mask?
Hi Karen
KR knew he was dead @ 620am……that’s why she attempted to ‘save his life’🙄🙄🙄….. defense attorney is obnoxious with his tone & attitude…..which always means defendant is GUILTY
She was giving him cpr of course she knew he stiff and not breathing. That shows nothing except she knew he was dead. Did you see his arm!!
She did it. Hell Hath no Fury as a Woman Scorned. I don't think she did it on purpose. She thought he would get up and go inside. She panics hours later when she can't reach him. He's found in the snow. "I hit him, I hit him".
Are you another cop?
I think she hit him too. Ockam's Razor. No one else had a motive. No logical reason to beat him up then throw him.outside in the snow.