Understanding Minute of Angle (MOA) | Long-Range Rifle Shooting with Ryan Cleckner
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- NSSF's Ryan Cleckner explains the measurement term "minute of angle" (MOA) and how to use MOA adjustments on your scope for sighting in and to compensate for bullet drop at varying distances. Want to learn more? Check out more information from Ryan Cleckner here: What is MOA?” gununiversity.com/what-is-moa...
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National Shooting Sports Foundation | NSSF great video! Im sorry if my question seems too ridiculous,I’m new to the sport.I have a truglo 1/4 click MOA scope mounted on a RPR chambered in .308.I zeroed it at 100yards.Someone told me to roll my turrets back to zero.So now if I’m shooting at a 200 yard target do I move my elevation turrets 8clicks up ( or to the 2mark on my turret ) ?
@Ryan Fontenot he was in regiment. Every person assigned to regiment is a Ranger. Any body who is tabbed and NOT assigned to regiment, has simply been to Ranger school.
He is a ranger.
This is a great video, but mils seem to be easier to understand and calculate in the field. At least for me.
@Ryan Fontenot qqqqq+qq
12 years later and this is STILL the BEST teaching of MOA in my opinion!!
I agree. This is the best instructional video of breakdown by far and I've watched a ton of videos trying to grasp this knowledge. This video explained it the best thoroughly to where a dummy like myself understood. This video made it click...Ah now I understand.
I watched this yesterday, I'm watching it again today. Gonna burn it into my brain. Mostly because the guy in this video, Ryan, speaks with such ease and clarity. Most people in CZcams videos annoy the crap out of me and I lose interest.......thanks Ryan, you rock!
Thank you!
Skewed views
Watch the first 5 mins and you are good to go.
My son who is 11yrs old like this vid very much. He thinks it is informative & clear. Thank you very much.
He was an army sniper school instructor he was trained to teach people that know absolutely nothing
whatever their paying you...it's not enough bud. Great explanation of m.o.a.
@Yo Dad That should be “it’s”, not “its”. And why the heck do you think it matters how you write in a novel and not in personal communication?
Robert Gray. You started a sentence with “and”. That is improper grammar.
@@lordford2672 Outstanding.
@@lordford2672 And you just presented a sentence with no verb. As part of transactional dialogue using “and” at the start of a sentence is acceptable if it follows on from someone else’s commentary - it’s an addendum, arguably to augment an improperly concluded point.
Robert Gray Which one of my sentences does not have a verb? The two verbs I used are “started” and “is”.
This instructor is fantastic.
Best explanation I`ve seen yet!
I agree! I've watched many others none like him he is knowledgeable and pleasant
Thank you!
I wish he'd come teach my college classes..
Couldn't agree more!
This is perhaps THE most informative information I have EVER found on MOA applications. Thank you so much Mr. Cleckner for this and your service to our country.
This guy is an exceedingly good instructor. Clear, simple explanations. Well done!
As a former Army instructor I can relate to his straight forward easy explanation on the subject. He is a subject matter expert (SME). Great job!!
So I have been in the US Army for 6 years. I am not going to say that I am some high speed Special Forces Sniper or something, because I am not. I will say however that I have been to the range professionally for 6 years and have always shot expert with Iron sights. So I consider myself a very good shot. That being said, I have heard about MOA from different sources some of them with their SNIPER tabs. I CAN EASILY SAY THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST INSTRUCTION I HAVE EVER BEEN GIVEN ON THE SUBJECT. I feel much more confident on my knowledge of the subject, and my ability to adjust my shots to the target distance. Thanks and Keep it up! Liked and Subscribed.
I can't view the rest of your comments. Google should fire some of its developers for the shitty job they have done.
Thank you for your service and I'm glad I helped!
This guy used to be an instructor for SOTIC. He should know the material better than any of the students you have talked to.
JavaScript was my
Doc68 this is basically archery talk with powder projectors. I’ll be able to apply this in both.
Never heard anyone explain this MOA concept better than this Gentleman, I really enjoyed the lecture, thank you so much it was fun.
I learned more in 16 minutes of watching this than I have in all of the hours at the range. Right now I'm shooting a Savage Axis chambered in .223 with a Nikkon M223 4-16X42mm scope. After zeroing at 100 yards, the scope is optimized for a .223 round weighing 55 grains. All I have to do is turn the elevation turret to a known yardage and take the shot. I am hitting quarters @ 300 yards. After seeing this video, I'll be hitting dimes at 300 yards.... Can't wait to hit the range today.
Lol, I don't think this is meant for grouping
@@kdmtrap7268 he doesn't mean group size, he means he can hit literal dimes using this information.
I watched this on my phone while I was doing dishes and my wife walks by and I didn't realize she stopped. She's just getting comfortable being around them but even she nodded along and understood! Long story short GREAT video!
One of the best explanations of how to adjust a scope and how it all works at the target distances .
I’ve been hunting for 35 years and I do alright, but this video made it crystal clear! What a awesome explanation on MOA and how to adjust. Thank you for sharing Sir.
I must compliment Ryan Cleckner for his thorough and accurate way of breaking concepts into bite size pieces. A natural teacher. Lovely to see.
You were born to teach. We’ll done, one of the most simplistic explanations I’ve seen.
Finally someone who can explain this so anyone can understand it.
wow, i heard this MOA thing like, 20 minutes ago, for the first time, and know I know what it is and how to calculate it. Dude, this guy is an amazing teacher...
Precision instructions from a top notch instructor. I'll be watching this repeatedly over time. Thank you!
No more searching for help on CZcams. This guy is the best. Awesome instructor
This is beautiful. I like how he breaks down math like he's telling an 8 year old for the first time. "How many chunks of 2 fit in to 4?"
That's for the people who still think the phrase is "would of".
Yeah. But it works for EVERYBODY.
Best explanation of MOA this novice has ever seen. Thank you.
Oma
wow that's the best video I've ever seen explaining MOA.
It is nice to have things explained out clearly, it is also good to have no personalisation in respect to opinions of the presenter. Very objective and that is appreciated. Good instructors are very rare.
I've just watched his whole series of videos. All I can say is, he is awesome. He.has taken something that can be so complicated, and turned it into a something that the average person can understand AND kept it interesting.. Everything from MOA to wind age, to mounting of scopes and more. Thank you so much for sharing this info in a clear and concise way. You rock, man.
Worth the 16 minutes to watch. Great instructor.
I get it!
😆 👍
What more can I say.....Simply Outstanding!! I now understand MOA! Thanks for the video.
Finally! Someone who can clearly teach MOA. Great job
As an LE Sniper/Team leader for 17 years, where pin point accuracy is paramount, I learned real quick to write my 'come-ups' for every distance over 100yds starting with 150,175, 200, etc., up to 600yds. In stressful situations, your distance 'zero' is always there with you. Upon 'zeroing' for 100yds always set your Elevation Turret, and Windage Turret to '0'. Always return it to that after shooting at any distance beyond 100yds. You adjust for wind deflection, and mirage, in real time as needed.
He means to unlock the turret so that when you turn it to zero the dial the scope Lines (reticle) don't move, only the dial moves. That way when you re-engage the scope's torrents you are then dialed into your 100-yard range zero position on the scope turret.
Not all scopes allow you to do this. The more expensive scopes allow you to pull the knobs out and disengage the dial from the gears that move the reticle inside the scope. That way you can move the scope dial around without moving the reticles inside the scope tube. When you get the dial to the right position you push in on the turret to re-engage the dial to the gears inside the scope tube. Then when you move the dial the reticle will move. Hope this helps.
I've hunted and shot for a long time but I've never really used moa because I didn't fully understand it. Ive just had an understanding of my trajectory and have gotten fairly good with it out to about 400yrds. Watching this and with some practice I'm confident I can improve to a full "good" status. Will be checking out more of these videos.
Mr Cleckner earned his cred here; excellent explanation!
A 10 year old video, thats telling me info I already know, but what a fantastic explanation. No matter how many times I take my rifle out, at some point I’m gonna make a mistake because I try to process too much info at the same time. I really liked how he stressed to separate the steps. Invaluable info for a new shooter.
I've watched several of your instructional videos with NSSF, great job. Not everyone can teach what they know. You have a perfect demeanor for the job, thanks again.
great lesson from a very capable instructor. learnt a lot
Bctdswa
I'm an engineer and do math all the time....This was an OUTSTANDING explanation!! Well done!!!!
Hands down.. No finer explanations on being a better shooter. Zero time wasted on needless irrelevant filler conversation. Right from the very start you had better be paying attention. Quick discussion with attention to detail . I watch this repeatedly. Mr. Cleckner is Flat Out , the Best.!
Thank you.
By far THE BEST (and most simple) explanation I have seen on the internet!!! My drill sergeant would be proud of you! Semper Fidelis! Keep up the good work!!!
Great video Ryan. I don’t remember getting this instruction in the Marine Corps and I was a 4th award rifle expert. You really do a great job on all your videos. Thx
This man has unbelievable teaching skills.
Clear and professional and a great example of the the quality of our wonderful military protecting us. GOD BLESS YOU
Thank you for this video. Even though it can get confusing, it’s really simple. You explain it perfectly.
Thank you!
Best MOA lesson ever!!! I've read and read on it only to be more confused. This was extremely easy to understand thank you!!
THIS WAS PERFECT AND SIMPLE EXPLANATION AND I STILL THINK MY HEAD MAY EXPLODE!
THANK YOU SIR FOR KEEPING OUR COUNTRY FREE....
I’ve seen many MOA videos and this is THE-BEST-ONE out here. You know this guy is good when he can make a complex thing stupid simple.
This is the single best video about MOA that I've watched. I've tried to learn MOA for awhile and I think I've finally got the basics.
Thank you Sir! This is the first time someone explained MOA to me and I felt they truly understood the subject. I finally came away with more answers than questions.
Wow, I figured this video would be over my head from the beginning. You really do explain things in an easy-to-understand manner. Very good instructor!
wow..i learned more in the first 1:30 then i did reading and trying to understand this concept over the past week haha. this guy is fantastic!
Byron Branch Happy to have helped.
This is perhaps THE most informative information I have EVER found on MOA applications.
If I had this guy as a teacher when I was growing up, I'd be a lot smarter today.
Dude right. If i had him as a teacher in high school and then college i would be a rocket scientist. I literally felt so dumb once the light bulb lit up in my brain like oh wow that was fuckin easy. And all these other crocks complicated the hell out of this shit everywhere else you try and learn more about it
I'm taking my new .308 out this weekend, I'm so glad I found this video :)
steve Happy to help.
I finally understand! I don't know how many videos I've watched but I finally get it. Thank you!
This is an absolute gem of a video. This is the easiest to understand video I have ever seen on this. The instructor is clear, concise, and maintains a good talking pace. Bravo.
Thank you.
Ryan this instruction was awesome. Will definitely recommend to others. You make calculating MOA down range a breeze. Your years as an instructor are showing lol
Wow, you are amazing at putting this subject into layman's terms as well as explaining !why! you're doing what you're doing! Thank you!
Probably theeeee BEST explanation I've ever come across, thank you.
Mr Cleckner, thank you for your service and your clear explanation of MOA.
I think I'm finally getting it. Had to go back and review some sections a couple times and I'll probably need to come back and rewatch it later to reinforce some of it but it's definitely starting to make sense for me. Thanks for the video. Very helpful!
I was a sniper from 89-93 in Berlin. Never touched a rifle after I got out. After watching these videos, I am starting to get the fever again...🤗
A great instructor makes you see how it really is that simple
7 year old video, so I don't know if you'll ever see this Mr. Cleckner. But I wanted to thank you for the clearest, easiest to understand explanation of MOA I've ever seen! I will be adding this to my favorites for reference in the future.
This is by far the best video I've seen on youtube. I'll stilll use my ballistics program but I'll feel confident to make field adjustments now without it.
Excellent presentation, thank you, Sir! (And thank you for your service!)
Thank you mr.Ryan for the great piece of education on MOA. I have turned many friends on to this site because its explanation is second to none. Your the best.....
You sir, are the reason my long range AR shooting has improved dramatically.
Dana Trabue Happy to help.
I appreciate that pressentation, learning everyday
OK, this is the best explanation I've ever seen. Not that I've been looking that long, but long enough! It took me a while to stumble on you! And I can actually follow this whole scenario although it's complicated and I'll need to listen to it again. Amazing video! Thanks for helping everyone that would totally be confused by this. I know I'll be watching this a few times, but you explained this extremely well. Thanks for your service too.
+Francis James Glad I could help! You know, you might like my book too . . . hint hint.
Just grabbed a copy of Long Range Shooting Handbook on Kindle for 2.99. If the information in the book is as good as in this video, then that's a nice bargain. Thanks Ryan.
Hi ryan not a problem my friend lol,thank you very much for your knowledge and making my shooting much more fun,if anyone is reading this,please listen to ryan and just keep watching it over again and it will all make sense and it is fairly simple trust me!!!
appreciate the last two minutes explaining sighting longer distance on a short range. Awesome
Dude you're Awesome. You've been a great help. Thank you so much.
This is a great presentation and you deserve an award! I've been in the military for 10 years and I've never had an "Army Proof" explanation like this. Although I have had great success making my adjustments once I determine the range, its nice to have a concise reason for what each click should equate to at a given distance. Thanks!
I’ve watched sooo many videos to figure this out. You had me understanding it within minutes, thank you very much awsome video.
This is the most accurate instruction I have ever witnessed in my life, literally used this channel to build, zero, and adjust everything about my 700 AAC-SD.
this is a really helpful video. thanks.
Thank you for the knowledge
Besides the bible, his book "Long Range Shooting Handbook: The Complete Beginner's Guide to Precision Rifle Shooting
by Cleckner, Ryan M" is the most copies of anything I've bought. Great gifts, and it really helps when discussing with people, even if they've been shooting forever. He really is outstanding and getting to the point quickly in a way that's easy to understand.
Besides teaching us about how to utilize minute of angle to our advantage there's another big lesson learned from this man:
HOW TO TEACH!
Wow, someone telling a military trained Sniper/Sniper Instructor 'how its done'...I'm pretty sure Ryan knows what he's talking about and has everything under control here :)
Thanks for the videos NSSF, you are AWESOME!!
I love it to the point and simple
Hi Ryan... I have been shooting for sixty years and you have imparted much needed knowledge I never had. This has helped me so very much. I now have the ability to quickly learn the way my rifle and the reloads respond and adjust to all of these variables. I served in the Us Army during the Viet Nam era. You are a hero and I am very proud of young men such as yourself that are my fellow countrymen. Glenn
I must watch this video 4 times a year, great, simple approach to a seemingly complex skill.
you are an amazing communicator. good work buddy
Thank you
This instructor has been doing this for many years. He made the process crystal clear. But wait, then all the troll math professors come out commenting on how he is wrong.
I have a maths Ph.D. snd he’s not wrong at all. He’s a genius. I may not learn maths from him, but I can certainly learn how to teach and share. Thank you, Ryan!
@@robertgray7908 maths? What happened to math being spelled as math?
This is Excellent, clear, easy to follow instruction! (from a teacher with 20 yrs experience)
Just want to say this guy is an excellent teacher.
I’ve come across a few videos now and each time I have recognized the talent
Excellent Presentation! The most easy to understand and inplemen presentation of MOA I've seen. Thanks Mr. Cleckner.
I've finally found an occasion where math is interesting!
Ha true
What a joy to receive information with such clarity.
This instructor Ryan Cleckner broke down the basic fundamentals of MOA adjustments and theory into a very easy to understand 16 minute video. Very well done, Sir!
I used some of his explanation in a class I had.
I look forward to my royalty check. :)
I watched many videos on scopes and reticles but couldn't get a clear understanding of using them. After watching this video, I got a very good understanding of MOA and how to use them effectively. 10 👍 for you.
Mr. Cleckner, I really appreciate your videos. As a former 11C mortarman, I know how to shoot indirect, but now that I've retired, I've fallen in love with long-range shooting. Your explanation is perfect and easily understood because I feel like I'm listening to one of my old school NCOs teaching me. Thank you. I have some more training to get back to.
I'm just a stupid welder... it's really not that simple. lol. all jokes aside, I will watch this video a million times if I have to understand. haha
moa=1/60th of a degree...much like minutes on a clock. imagine that between each minute mark, there are 60 notches...these would be your moa. now, it works out that at 100yards, one moa is 1". my scope is about 1/3 moa per click. so if I'm shooting an inch low at 100 yards, and I want my rifle sighted in at 100 yards, I need to come up 3 clicks. like he said though, think in moa first, then think about how many clicks that equals.
Your trying to make it more complicated than it is. Trust me.
SAME HERE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,DIFFERENT JOB,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
+s88m88h: Much like the minutes of a clock, yeah right! Well now dial on 20 Minutes Of Angle elevation and (assuming your rifle is held straight out in front of you, perpendicular, and we'll call that position 12 o'clock) then, at the rate you're quoting, that would place your rifle muzzle at around the 4 o'clock position, which is somewhere 'backwards' over your shoulder, and THAT'S a "physical impossibility!" So it can't be 1/60th of a degree (much like the minutes on a clock) it has to be a LOT smaller than that!
funny welders make 6 figures easy on the oil pipelines
I love this guy he is a great instructor but I'm going to have to watch most of his videos several times but that's just me
12 years later...still an outstanding presentation! Thank you!
Holy cow this is the best explanation I've ever heard for this. I've known how to adjust but never been able to explain it. Now I'll be able to
MOA:
100yd= 1in
200yd= 2in
300yd= 3in
400yd= 4in
On Scope:
1 Click= 1/4 MOA
2 Click= 1/2 MOA
3 Click= 3/4 MOA
4 Click= 1 MOA
8 Click= 2 MOA
12 Click= 3 MOA
16 Click= 4 MOA
IF your scope is set for 1/4 clicks...just saying that not all are.
wouldn’t that be if your rifle is a 1 minute rifle if it was a 2 minute rifle then it would be double?
Jacob’s Passons You can’t find out the bullet drop if you don’t know your rifle. Same for the scope. You can only adjust the correct moa if you 1. know how many klicks 1 moa at your scope is and 2. how many inches you are off target from your zero. You need these two factors first to adjust your whole setup to further ranges. All the numbers he used in the video are his numbers for his setup. He basically showing how to understand your own setup. There is no such thing than 1 or 2 minute rifles or I didn’t get want you meant.
For example, he said at 400yards he was 4“ off target wich equals 2 moa wich equals 8 klicks on his scope. If you shoot your own rifle at 400yards you might be 5“ or 6“ or just 3" off target and 2 moa on your scope is maybe only 7 or more than 8 klicks... you get me?
1SGCarter A one minute rifle to by understanding would mean the perfect group at 100 yards is 1 inch, 200 yards is 2 inch etc. A two minute would be 2 inches at 100 yards and 4 at 200 yards. But you probably know more about this then me, i’m just trying to get a basic understanding of this type stuff, it seems pretty intriguing to me
Jacob’s Passons In your scenario the 2 minute rifle just got zeroed at half the range the 1 Minute rifle was zeroed. So your math would be correct on that one. BUT you can adjust both rifles the same way and they will shoot the same (if model and scope is identical). I will post a link how you zero your rifle.
when your rifle is zeroed at 100yards and you make shots at 25 yds and 50 yds do you turn your turrets up like your making distance shots or are you turning down from your zero?
remember if it's zero at 100yards anything before that the bullet is rising (he explained why it's rising)
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If you're zeroed in at 100 but want to shoot something at 500, your bullet will go way too low. Which means you're gonna turn the dial up, (to aim the sniper up). But if you're zeroed at 100 and want to shoot at 25 why would you also dial the scope up? Won't you need to come down. The whole reason you're turning the dial up at distance is because of the bullet drop. But the shot at 25 yards will be high
9:34 wierd but true, dependant on the scope setup to some degree. It's always best to try to scope the range on paper before actual shooting.
Tyler, the best thing you can do is experiment for yourself. Take your rifle to the range and shoot it a zero, then dial it up and down at 25 yards. I think you will be surprised by the outcome.
this is my biggest Problem understanding the MOA so Now Class starts for me so I can best understand the MOA's Mentally. Thank you for schooling me & Welcome home& thank you for your Service.
A person who knows what they are doing explains with this level of ease!!