ZMF Verite Closed: May Spoil Other Headphones for You!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- This is my Verite Closed Review.
I am really enjoying these headphones.
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00:00 Intro & Experience with ZMF
4:37 Aesthetics, Build & Comfort
11:54 Tonality
16:14 Technical Performance
22:14 Comparisons & Gear Synergies
32:20 Conclusion
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I cannot say enough how amazing these are for me. The timbre just allows me to relax deep into the music and enjoy it in a completely natural way. I agree with the m17 analysis and i have to tweak eq on my m17 to make the verite sound right, and it does get there close. On my desktop set up, its just completely sublime. Cannot express enough what a great job Zach and his team have done with it.
Are you related to Indira Naidoo?
Great review! As I am not really much of an audiophile, I found this review very enjoyable and easier to understand. I especially like how the Stellia was compared to the VC. I own the Stellia and enjoy the warmth. Since I have been considering getting another headphone, this makes me want to try out the VC. I like the energy from the Stellia, but I want something to compliment it for slower songs or vocals.
I feel like you're slowly becoming my favorite youtuber. I enjoy how you seem to speak from the heart.
Thank you. Grateful!
Welcome to the club! And this can complements the Arya very well. I own both, and I swap to the Arya when I want the cleanest, clearest, and most accurate presentation, but I swap to the VC when I really want to experience the music--fuller, more weighty and impactful, just overall a more fun and vivid experience.
And you're right, this can absolutely does spoil other cans for me. I really haven't sought out any other headphones since I got it.
Time to try the Atrium now! Lol. I have a VC and Atrium. They are both special headphones!
@@soulfulfool I own the Atrium and I have had the Arya v2 which has a wider soundstage than the the Arya stealth and I actually prefer the soundstage of the Atrium. To my ears the soundstage of the Arya was a bit unrealistic and it made some genres like rock sound too soft. The Atrium has better soundstage and imaging than the VC. To me the Atrium's sounds is way more realistic sounding. I really like the hard plastic cases. Those things are super high quality and very durable. I have headphone stands anyways so whatever case I get is going to just go in the closet. It is nice to have the hard case incase I travel somewhere.
@@soulfulfool if you are looking for details or technical abilities then yes the VC is the way to go. You said something about the Atrium cannot have better soundstage over the Arya and I was just pointing out that it's not technically true. It all depends on what a person looks for in soundstage. The Atrium soundstage isn't as big as the Arya but it is big and it is more realistic and doesn't sound like everything is off in the distance. I do think for your case point you are making the best decision with the VC. Have you thought about which pads you want? I 100% enjoy the Autuer pads the best. I like the Autuer Hybrid the best and then the Autuer Lambskin. What amp are you pairing the VC with?
I thought about getting these but due to the time constraints I went with the Denon AH-D9200. I am still explore these as an option in the future. Great review.
Excellent review as usual Sajid. The filter 4 is linear phase and drops from 16k quiet fast. I think you may like filter 1 with this. The change I am hoping is a tighter image and clearer presentation with quick decay and faster transient response. Do try that, hope you like it.
I freaking love VCs! They become much more comfortable without any hotspots when you install a Pilot-Pad to them btw! You MUST try these on a proper OTL tube amp, hope you do another review/update video once you experience them on your incoming Felix Euphoria OTL. In my experience I found them to be resolving enough to be top tier, but not so resolving that you get lost in the micro details. You can really enjoy the music with VCs and I think that makes them an excellent headphone for actual music enjoying audiophiles.
Agree
@@soulfulfool yea - still got mine. Upgraded from a BHC to a pendant with nos tubes. Killer.
Thank you very much for this video as always great job, I heard verite open and closed at axpona few weeks ago and my impression was different (I do realize it was at a show) but vc did not sounded warm at all, too much energy on top, they didn't sound slow either. VO sounded little more relaxed. But I like new audeze 5 more. Also the new Atrium was better to my taste than verite. I'm very curious how new version of autour will sound. In my humble opinion zmf needs tubes. Thanks again.
Great review…❗️ I love the alchemy of matching headphones, IEM, with DAC Amp … I just received this portable delicate beast of a DAC/Amp called Tri Tk2…. it pairs soo wonderfuly with my Blessing 2… Yes much more modest set up but really love it …. Thank you♥️👍👌🏼
Excellent review. Thank you. Subbed 🍻
Very pleasant sounding headphones :D Beautiful timbre
This is such an awesome video thank you!
Great review, very well done.
As usual, a very thorough and nuanced review. No surprise to learn that you're an academic, in real life.
Thank you for the review. First time viewer here. I own the Focal Elegia and want to upgrade. Seems VC it is!
Same route for me. I have Elegia, these are great. The next one is VC. I was thinking about Stellia, but found a good deal for these.
Looking forward to your Atrium review. Please compare it to the susvara :)
Nice review. I have both the VC and Atrium. Am upgrading from an Auris D2D And HA2 SE. Am thinking about a Chord Hugo tt2 and M Scaler stack. Two questions please: 1) what do you think of that pairing for the VC and Atrium, 2) should I upgrade the HA2 and if so to what or do I not need a tube amp.?
Excellent review as always ... BUT, you really owe it to yourself to try Kennerton - particularly the closed-back Rognir.
Just joined the club. Coming from Focal Elegia, I loved the sound of those. But now to author’s point - VC’s spoiled the Focals for me. I just can’t get enough of these. Didn’t even test all the pads yet :) Awesome cans!
Someday I will definitely AB these to Stellias, but I am pretty sure VCs or Stellias are my endgame.
Given how you described what you enjoy about the VC, I'm genuinely surprised you were underwhelmed with the Meze Elite.
Great review. Which headphone cable is that on the VC?
Excellent review man, keep up the awesome work!
Thanks man!
Now that you've owned the Euforia, how do you rate the VCs vs. the Utopias (which I know you also really like) properly powered, both in terms of resolution and slam?
Great review
The VC with a good OTL amp is end game.
Which keyboard is that? Could you share a full photo
I would like to see how you compare them to the atrium when you get them. I own the atrium and wonder if it is still worth getting the VC because the atrium are so good driven by my RME ADI-2. I look forward to a comparison review.
the VC is more detailed and faster than the atrium, the details are more readily accessible with the verite closed and it picks up flaws in tracks like crazy.
but the atrium has a wider soundstage, it's more forgiving with poor recordings, its detailed but laid-back, so cozy and comfy sound, reminds me of my mdr z1r in terms of coziness, but of course they feature different tonalities.
Both can co exist in one collection technically the verite is superior, but the atrium has the wider and more rich presentation.
i also have an rme adi dac.
Very nice review. I misread you and I owe you an apology. We had differing opinions between the 1266 and Susvara which we both own. I just purchased the VC’s and looking forward to hearing them. Cheers!
curious what are your thoughts on the VCs after a few months? Does it make a decent pairing/complement to owning the 1266 and Sus?
How well would this headphone pair with LTA Z10e and Bricasti M3 streaming DAC
How does it compare to arya stealth , i thought you was going to mention that ,, so which is better overall ?
kennerton Rognir planar closed back or zmf verite closed back?
If only you could do an ultimate zmf totl analysis on Atrium vs VO vs VC !!!
Well VC should be in everyone's collection. The question is about which open back to go for.
@@soulfulfool I am keeping my Arya and Sundara also. Trying to decide whether HE1000SE or Susvara. Will add VO, Atrium, Caldera and Auteur Classic over time.
@@soulfulfool I bought VC Ltd in November sale.
Hi Sajid , I have a question , I recently bought the empire ears legend Evo after your recommendation and I am LOVING IT ! So thank you first of all. I want to know, I'm using the fiio m17 as my "portable" device with the Evo. Do you prefer the sp2000t or the m17 with the Evo ? I'm finding the m17 really big and heavy lately and it's becoming uncomfortable. So is there any reason for me jump to the sp2000t or even the sp2000 ? What will I gain if I pair my Evo and Meze Elite with those , over the m17 ?
Hi buddy. Glad it worked out for you. I prefer the SP2KT with the EVO because it benefits from the better bass and treble extension on the AK DAP. The M17 also has decent bass and treble but its on the smoother side, and I prefer the M17 with my Utopia and Aryas.
@@amplifyaudioreviews awesome ! That's completely answers it. Thanks so much for the detailed response , looking forward to the next video !🌟
@@amplifyaudioreviews bte Sajid , I wanted to ask as I might have missed it on a video , why did you sell your Susvara ? I am absolutely delighted with the musicality of my Meze elite , but I may want to also get a Susvara as a compliment to it. Also, do you miss them ?🤣
Hi Sajid when can I hear your take on the Final Audio D8000 Pro Edition?, pretty much the only high end headphone you have not reviewed. Really interested because its made in Japan and the silver color looks really cool and cyberpunk-ish.
It's an awesome headphone, Tom. I need to bring it in for a review. I had some minor comfort issues, but nice one, honestly. Even the D8000 rocks. Literally. Some of the best bass.
@@amplifyaudioreviews Its nice if you could do a livestream with Andrew (Resolve) from the Headphone Show. I would love to hear more of your opinion on audio in a more detailed longer disccusion. Maybe some thoughts that you wanted but couldn’t include in the shorter reviews!.
@@tomvu9353 Yes, would love that. I should reach out to Andrew sometime. I respect his work greatly.
How do they compare to the he r10p which you reviewed before? Is the VC a lot better?
It is tonally
what pad did you use?
What are your thoughts as the VC being a TOTL pairing with another? Do you think susvara, Utopia or phi tc owners would be happy with it as a 2nd? Or to state it more specifically what the vc does well which is it more different than of the 3?
I own the Susvara and VC and definitely feel like it has a seat around the table. It presents differently obviously but it's amazing for a closed back and speed punch and slam are great compliment to the sus
its not a close comparison...susvara still sound better...but closed vs open...you cant get away from the closeness
@@trilingualkid No my questions is more for the Susvara/Utopia/1266 TC owners. If you own one of those and searching for a 2nd TOTL or near HP set which does the VC pair best with? meaning what the VC does best is the opposite of X?
You don't buy ZMF to listen to them on a solid state amp. They are made for TOOBS. You will need another VC review after getting the Feliks tube amp.
Which wood these are?
Nice video I liked it.
But with my system the VC is super fast planar fast, it has a near holographic Soundstage of sounds appearing and disappearing in a black background, almost stax l700 like.
It sounds big very precise imaging and super detailed, yet the details aren't shoved in like let's say the focal clear, it's detailed but less detailed than the VC, but if you hear them without thorough listening you might think the clear is more detailed but it's not at all.
I sold the stellia after 2 months of use it was too aggressive and too unnatural.
The utopia are fantastic in my opinion.
A great compliment for the VC would be the utopia.
Not a fan of the susvara.
Agree
What is your system?
Hey Sajid! Did you tried HE6 OG or SE versions ?
yup
I almost bought ZMF VC until I listened to Focal Radiance. The technical capability is very close to Radiance and the latter can be driven satisfyingly by Dragonfly Cobalt.
VC is definitely a tier above Radiance, but it wasn't comfortable for me, and it likes SP2000, which I no longer have. And I hate SP2000 for its UI being more sluggish than a Kindle.
I got the Camphor Burl Verite Closed a few months ago. Most amazing looking headphones I've ever seen in person. I'll also add that the new Crescent Strap for the headband that Zach/ZMF has come up with that now ships with the ZMF' HP's is awesome. So comfortable. Something Audeze should look at and design a copy cat type headband support for their ridiculously heavy HP's. The VC for me are a great all rounder that handle all music genre's well. Similar to how you said you lean towards the Utopia now because it allows you to listen to all music genre's without always having to swap over to a different HP for a particular music genre. The VC sounds really good on the LYR 3 hybrid tube amp and the Burson Soloist 3XP both coming from the Bifrost 2 with the Lokius EQ in between. The VC EQ's well too if you want a little more Bass.
Great review.
Which do you prefer soloist or lyr 3?
@@timc_2433 Tough call. I really like the Burson House sound. I actually sold my Soloist and bought the Conductor 3X GT. If price is not an issue I'd take the Soloist. It will have enough power to be an end game amp. LYR3 is a good way to change things up with a little Hybrid Tube action. A lot depends on what headphones you own and what type music you listen to. But if I could only have one I'd take the Soloist.
Ohhh you gotta try the Atrium then... :D
Have you tried Aeon 2 Noire?
Not yet
I’m in a very love/hate relationship with this headphone. I don’t think I’ll ever sell it but it’s not the endgame all rounder headphone I was expecting.
What amp are you using it with?
@@briandorsey6437 3 different amps of varying prices and power... AmpsandSound Kenzie OG Rev 2, the amp inside the ifi pro iDSD and the new Hifiman EF400. My issues with it are with some inherent quirks in the frequency response nothing that could be changed with better amplification tbh and I don't like EQ. As I said tho I wont be selling it because its a one of a kind headphone and the technical abilities of the headphone are just incredible.
Please take a listen to the Denon ATH-D9200. Great.
As the owner of both headphones, I will say for myself, while the first days of the Denon 9200 were burning, I hated them, but over time I changed the pads, the cable and now it is a very fun game. It’s fun, the bass is dry, but powerful, you feel it, but you don’t just hear it))) The vocals are clear, which is surprising for closed headphones, the stage is average (but somewhat reminiscent of open models), the upper frequencies are expanded more than Zmf Verite Closed, so the frequency layers of this of the range are well tracked without eavesdropping. Zmf Verite Closed have also not yet achieved a burning time of 60 hours, maybe more, so the sound sometimes differs, but the main thing is that the bass is more detailed, but the mid-bass is not as loud as the denon, but the lower frequencies are more detailed in layers, and it is possible to read its structure, more envelops the listener. The bottom is more voluminous, with less impact on the listener. Middle frequencies are not so simple here, but logically, the fact that the Denon V-oboose sound has a role here plays a role, but the competitor unfolds the palette of this range in front of the listener, allowing to examine the whole dish as a whole, and to sharpen attention to details, all sorts of decorations. And here the problems of song mastering can arise, especially in the upper middle. High frequencies are difficult to describe, they become less sharp as they warm up, but they are not very distinct, but they are there, good ones, I won't tell you more here, because it's not his feature. Zmf VC - first of all enhanced reverberation, the stage is a little bigger than denon, but reverberation makes objects bigger, even bigger than they are (my opinion). Denon may not be inferior on the stage, it's just that the objects are not expanded, there are more voids, which sometimes gives a cool feeling. Zmf VC change the sound depending on the pads (I think you are not waiting for a complete revolution), but not especially with cables. Copper, silver, etc. are more affected by the material change. - we are talking about cables of the same range of prices and quality, because for 50 and for 2500 there will be a difference, because the geometry of the cable will be different, except for the material, which is the main thing in my opinion. The sound of the VC is more warm and relaxed (but I can argue with myself about the relaxation, but relative to the competitor), while the Denon - Dryness on the bottom, but not gloomy, the colors are not darkened, the delivery is cheerful, energetic, the impact is strong, the tops are airier and the detail is greater, very informative, you can feel all the mud of the recording too much, but what is said indistinctly you can hear well compared to competitors, informativeness over the entire frequency range. With the change of cables and pads, the sound changes, so there can be a lot of experiments. Both are fast, so here you can judge by attenuation, where Denon shows dryness (I say this, although it is modesty, more precisely, restraint, it does not inflate and does not decorate, except for the impact))) This is so short, if you are interested in more, write, I will reveal the topic more (unforgettable that this is my own opinion).
@@user-kx8pt7td8q Thank you for this informative mini review. There were just so many qualities of the Denon that I liked, I found it hard to believe that the Vérité was worth the extra money for probable sound improvements.
@@user-kx8pt7td8q Also, what pads and cable did you settle on with the 9200?
I don't see the point of naming what I didn't like, let's move on to the leader - zmf ori, both leather and suede (suede is more relaxed and for long listening), but I agree with the leather they become a little bass-headed, the impact is felt, the bass is not booming, but tight. Others changed the sound to an inconvenient position for the headphones, but on some music it made a difference, and on others, the advantages of these headphones were simply lost, and the disadvantages came out (today I will conduct another examination with two zmf pads - other things are available).
Everything is not so simple with the cable here, because high-quality copper plays well, especially one cable with a somewhat softened sound (the bass is softer, the treble is less sharp, the sensitivity is a little lower) gave musicality and smoothness. The copper is silver-plated, sharper, but the essence of what I want to say is this - I have a cable with silver, gold, palladium with separate cores, then its tonality, detail, neutrality, musicality, and other characteristics simply changed the sound (this is a step forward compared to the regular one that I if you honestly didn't like it). I connect via a balanced connection, although they are not demanding headphones, they are easy to control, but they like good amplification (and not just turn up the volume).
how does it sound with woo wa8 ?
Very good!
That’s my set up too. Sounds awesome
Wow can't believe you sold susvara!
So it's good, but NOT a 007. ;) Too bad it takes MONTHS to get a ZMF... Zzz