The Definitive Mii Swordfighter Moveset Guide
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The second installment in the mii guide trilogy has arrived! I couldn't have done this without the help of the Mii Swordfighter discord server! You can check them out here if you have any questions that this video didn't cover:
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Additionally, I want to thank Zela_Kantal for making and letting me use the great art you see in the thumbnail!
Music used:
Miitopia - Casting Main Character: • Miitopia OST - Amiibo...
Timestamps:
0:00 Gale Strike (Tornado, Nado)
1:08 Shuriken of Light (SoL)
1:52 Blurring Blade (BB)
2:58 Airborne Assault (AA)
4:28 Gale Stab (GS)
5:28 Chakram
7:10 Stone Scabbard (SS)
8:35 Skyward Slash Dash (SSD)
9:34 Hero Spin (HS)
10:38 Blade Counter
11:37 Reversal Slash
12:41 Power Thrust (PT)
13:46 Outro - Hry
It’s not a mii sword fighter. It’s a mii Swiss Army knife
Swiss armii knife
@@twocalicocats5511 well fuck
This
@@twocalicocats5511 sWiis armii knife
@@aangeles21No, a sWIIss arMII Knife!😠🔪
The one dislike is Ganondorf
Other one is the one person that is triggered by the campy mii swordfighters
the third is my brother who thinks gale stab is the best move.
4:48 “He’s not vanishing. He’s just moving very fast. Try to feel out his energies.”
That dragon ball Z reference fits that perfectly.
SSD was Sephiroth’s up special before Sephiroth came out
And the high recovery one was basically pyras but gives up some kill power and flashy-ness for better recovery
Remember (SSD)?
(Octaslash) is him now.
Feel old yet?
ah solid state drive my favourite move
And Stone Scabbard was also similar to Pyra’s...I’m onto you, Nintendo.
@@numberonecrate
or Prya’s is similar to Mii Swordfighter
Good stuff. Engaging and informative, but sprinkled with little moments that made me chuckle.
that's true, it was a pretty good video
How many pros does airborne assault have?
Helios: Yes
NOTE: I was wrong about blade counter; as it turns out, the damage multiplier is 1.5x instead of 1.25x.
Edit: Full list of pros and cons here: pastebin.com/AYtL6LHc
Does this change your rating of the move at all?
@@trevorsreya8277 To be quite honest, not really.
remember me when your famous
For the blurring blade, it can also be used for stage spikes
some how i got a consistent ring special sting with foot stole ending with down smash
Swordie compensates his lack of grounded speed, framedata, oos options with good disjointed shield pressure (airial & grounded), potent b&b's, excellent projectile zoning, good air speed, high dmg output and amazing killpower. He only really struggles against rushdown, but it's still manageable. I always said that people underestimate him a lot. A solid mid/high mid tier imo.
Nice video btw 👌🏻
*hears Miitopia music at start*
INSTANT LIKE
12:15 I don't even PLAY smash but I'm sold now.
Nice! I use 2 swordfighters, Bonk and Conk. Bonk is 1122, Conk is 1121. I’m not too good at the game in general, but i really like mii swordfighter.
Those are terrific names. I hope you have a spectacular day and you get everything you want out of life.
bonk’s got dragon helmet and ashley dress, conk’s got monkey suit and hat. they both have a face that looks like this:
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------- (supposed to be the big smile but i’m not too good at making these either)
What are the names of the brawlers and gunners?
I found Mii Swordie to be the best of the 3 Miis, and this kinda explains why. SO many good options to choose from.
Most ppl agree to think he is actually the worst of the 3...brawler is the best
@@l-create7247 Huh. Strange. Guess It's literally just me then.
I’m a brawler main, so I think brawlers the best. :p and lots of people actually do say that sword fighters the worst... but hey man you prove them wrong. Sword Fighter DEFINITELY had plenty of potential and some really cool and versatile moves
@@girafee3454 Yeah, I'm gonna get good enough to prove everyone wrong.
@@originquantum5483I would love to practice with y'all since I want swordfighter as my secondary (brawler main here)
things you missed i'll point out since i know about them (not being mean or anything):
-gale strike can't be canceled with another projectile and won't cancel projectiles that's both a + and a -
-shuriken of lights is good for jab lock, mii swordfighter isn't very good at jab locking normally imo, so it's a +
-blurring blade slows your fall, meaning you can start charging against the ledge, can give you free edgegard against some characters if you get the timing right, also mii swordfighter's best kill move, and so i would say it is viable, all of mii swordfight neutral specials are good honestly
-airborn assault, i would say it is viable if you use it with tornado or suriken while it's of course not as good as chakram, it is a good recovery move which is never a bad thing
-grab stab isn't viable, it's a worse version of ike's side special which is already concidered bad, if you don't charge it it doesn't kill, and if you charge it, your oponent mustbe stupid to get hit by such a predictable move
-power trust is grab stab but better
and that's it, good video, keep up the good work
Reversal Slash is a great tool for broken shields before a foward smash or burning blade or something
Blurring blade only really kills well when charged, and with the others being stupid good, i dont think its viable
chrispo it was an example lol
@@chrispo7610 it's quite fast to charge, it's not on the level of a falcon punch, if you have to choose between blurring blade and foward smash, blurring blade is 100% better
@@pablothewartortle3143 and a good reflector
Mii Swordfighter’s less viable specials are just actually decent specials that are overshadowed by better ones
Change my mind
No you're absolutely right
Rest in peace Airborne Assault
Can't really speak for gale stab or blurring blade though
@@helios3557 RIP indeed, but I still use them
Chakram should be nerfed
@@mf6610 just play smash 4 and use chakram. That move is terrible in that game.
@@RushWheeler But I don’t have Smash 4, or a Wii U
@@helios3557 I can speak for Blurring Blade and Gale Stab
Quality. Loved this video for brawler as well. I'm getting into the miis and these videos are godlike.
Video
10/10
very viable
looking forward to the gunner video
Came here after Dante was announced as a Mii
Welcome to the club brother
This is such an incredible guide with clear visuals and concise end points. Very helpful in making sense of MSF customization
The video was insightful and very nicely edited, love the tone!
Now the stab gale allows you to grab the ledge after hitting someone, which makes it better and a really good recovery option
I was already considering picking this character up, thanks so much for the great video!
Nice video! Can't wait to see a video like this about the other miis is you make it!
really enjoyed this + the brawler one! looking forward to gunner, or w/e else you make in this style tbh
Godlike editing skills. The zoom ins, the cuts. Beautiful
Nice job on this and your Brawler guide! They've been really informative on what some of these moves strengths and weaknesses are and why you should or shouldn't use them in your kit!
Pretty good guide! Excellent work!
Definitely the definitive guide! Thank you, Helios!
This was very well made also appreciate the text makes it easier for me to watch
Theses mii tutorials are really good.
Thanks
This video feels ahead of its time. I wish I saw this video when I picked up swordfighter a year and a half ago because instead I had to figure out this stuff by myself (though maybe that learning curve made me better for it). I agree with most of the points made in this video, though I'd argue that shuriken is at least equally viable to tornado these days because tornado requires a ton of conditioning to get its intended value against a good player whereas shuriken is overall less value but much easier to pull off. My current set is 2323 but I used to run 1323 for a while, and I feel like either one of those tries to balance kill power, recovery, and confirms. Definitely a bottom 10, possibly bottom 5 character, but they’re really fun and that's all I really care about.
Great video man! Your video on brawler is what got me to main him!
I'm so glad you like it! Hope you enjoy Brawler!
I love the royal Miis you made!
I would also like to say from experience that what Gale Stab lacks in killing and damage potential, it makes up for recovery mixups. One of my favorite things to do is to drop from ledge then immediately jump back up and advance with an uncharged stab. Also, if you start charging it when you’re reasonably high from ground level offstage, you can mix up if you go above the enemy (and likely the other side of the stage), wait to go to the ledge, or just charge right through them.
Piano music in the background is so much nicer than, almost any other music in the background, wish more people did this.
1:38 The mii’s eyes have no soul behind them, and yet you can still see the fear in them as Ganondorf approaches
this guy is underrated. Give him more subs, he deserves it! 👍
Nice stuff bro, very interesting
Cool music helios i like your video! Miitopia is a cool game!
Thanks for this. I needed this info
Can't wait for the miigunner video!
Worst Side special or not...I've somehow found myself comfortable using Gale Stab...
Combining it with Gale Strike, Hero Spin, and Reversal Slash. For me it offers a quick strike for opponents setting up an edgeguard attack (and offers a second recovery if I'm off stage above the ledges). Not to mention I've used it to stop opponents trying to counterattack with strong Smash attacks...mostly because of it's huge striking speed and launch power as well.
Yes I know it's the worst of the side specials, but it somehow ends up working for me (and sometimes killing me as well, but that's mostly because I'm an idiot. Hahaha).
It's the worst, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. Gale Stab is no Onslaught.
I don’t know, isn’t airborne assault worse? Also I was so surprised with your moveset because I use the exact same one 😂 anyways Airborne Assault is way more predictable, isn’t that worse?
This is actually so sick.
Thanks for the Chakaram help : )
Liked/commented for the algorithm. Already subbed after your brawler vid so I was expecting nothing but the highest quality stuff when I clicked. Was not disappointed whatsoever. The music on the vid gave me happy vibes. Good stuff! You really do make good stuff so here's hoping more people see your vids!!
As a side note, this vid was extremely helpful. I don't even play swordfighter but found this really interesting. I had no idea they had a 3rd neutral b that's like a weirder charged flashing mach punch (as if FMP isn't already weird enough, lol). Can't wait to see your gunner vid if you make one!
I plan to; I'm glad you're enjoying these!
That Ike recovery up B reverse was dirty, laughed for a bit, solid video overall, I might start to use Mii Fighter since they nerfed my main from Brawl/Wii U
after all the fun I’ve had with sephiroths up b I switched to the second up special for swordfighter
Yo these video’s are very nice
You missed something when you talked about mii swordfighter's counter, the counter is useful after you attack on shield because you can counter after you missed an attack on a shield (especially when you attacked you opponent with an attack unsafe on shield). And besides, the counter comes out frame 10, so I think the counter of the mii swordfighter should be rated 8/10. And also it is normal that the counter has a short activate windows because your opponent won't be able to see what you're gonna do and he will attack first, so it's good. Also most of Super Smash Bros.Ultimate's cast doesn't have a counter, so you should be happy that the Mii swordsman has a counter.
@@paintthefence9800 Thanks !
I likw that song! I like your vid Helios!
love my Mii swordfighter, my main and I can beat anyone pretty easily. tornado, skyward, stab and thrust are what I run (1,2,2,3)
Who uses gale stab xd
@@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779 my brother,, because he thinks it looks cool and no other reason.
Nice work
I use the sword fighter, and I agree with this video, nicely done
My favourite Down Special has got to be Power Thrust. It’s really good at catching people off guard, and no one excepts it.
The best set to go for is 1322 if you want recovery. Go 1332 if you want the overused kill confirm. 3223 and 2122 are guilty pleasures of mine, very fun. Neutral B 2 goes the farthest in terms of Swordfighter’s projectiles.
I have gotten a cheesy stage spike with Up B 2, so it can be decent for janky KOs.
2:51 Rip mii swordfighter
What a cute video. Thanks for info
I am interested by this series and I hope mii gunner comes out soon
5:16 Boy, that didn’t age well
And I'm SO GLAD it didn't
I usually try to combo slow chakram into blurring blade, it works surprisingly well
My favorite move set is Gale strike, Gale stab, Hero spin and Blade counter. It's basically if Ike and Link fused playstyles. It's fun to use and useful against a lot of the cast
This was pretty nice and really informative. Are u gonna do a guide on what the miis should wear?
here as a "Lloyd" main. thank you for this guide
Me, satisfied knowing my Isaac mii is an overall 7.8/10
I like to have Gale Stab, Power Thrust, and Stone Scabbard and just zoom around.
Extra minus to Gale Stab: *snoring noises*
I love the perfectly cut K.O.'s
Take a shot every time a move is laggy or unsafe on shield
It do, unfortunately, be that way.
Thankfully his normals are pretty alright on shield, especially dtilt.
Stock Mii Swordfighter's counter was just what I needed when somebody in high school would keep spamming RoB's RoB-copter. You'd think he would have stopped spamming after the first few errors, but he just had to keep digging his grave outside the map.
The sad part about Airborne assault is that it got nerfed in Ultimate, in Smash 4 this move can be charged for more distance and power, but not anymore 😞
I still like it tho, just saying that it wasn't as good as before
I've been messng around with Shurikan of Light, Airborne Assault, Hero Spin and Reversal Slash and it feels really good. Reversal Slash and Airborne Assault make up fro Hero Spins lack of recovery and that means you have a much better kill option. Shurikan of light feels really good since it basically forces your opponent to approach due to its low lag. It's also really tough punish unlike Gale Strike
Monster hunter now has mii, so ill use this guide.
I think blurring blade is a good off stage option. You float while sending out the attack, it is a good multi hitter and you can correct which way you wanna send it out while charging.
So you can punish low recoveries 100% without fail by by attacking towards the stage below ledge.
I love the miitopia cast music
Apparently, gale stab (Ike side b) combos into itself at low percents. That should be a bonus.
With the sword fighters counter you can block projectiles any one and if there’s a opponent in your way as the projectile hits your counter it can hit them as well I win so many game with sword fighters counter
Moves for my mii swordfighter:
3: Blurring Blade
1: Airborn Assault
2: Skyward Slash Dash
2: Reversal Slash
What’s Better Than Just Reflecting Projectiles With The Reversal Slash Is OP Asf. You Can Literally Cheese An Opponent By Reflecting Them With It Which Will Ruin Their Recovery.
3:26 Not a positive if you ask me. Would be nice to edgeguard with it. Plus it makes it easier for your opponent to catch you, because if they know the matchup they know that you'll get stuck in one place, no momentum at all, and can capitalize on that with a fast move.
For SSD, a cool usage is that you can use it against ledge and that huge protective hitbox can stop an opponent from getting to the ledge. Especially effective at higher percentages.
12:26 That means it can be used on a shieldbreak for more %, right? So at least a pro comes out of the con.
Cool vid!
Thanks for your feedback! Regarding Airborne Assault, if you want to edgeguard people with it, I would think short hopping before doing the move would let you use it offstage.
@@helios3557 If I remember correctly, it works like FMP and grounds you when it's short hopped. I could probably use it if I do a Fortnite Flash with it, but then I'd go flying too far I think. I'll test it real quick.
OK, post-test, it can be done if it isn't a short hop or if you go off-stage while you fall. A short hop works like FMP (though a bit less noticeable due to less fall speed, while also a bit more of a hinderance because it's a move with startup.) It works fine if you normal jump and use it early or late, though. Great for me to learn after I changed Miku's side special to the more fitting Chakram lol. Though, going off-stage with it out of a shorthop is basically an SD, you need to be a little more high than that. Though, if you hit, you're safe. So I mean, I guess it's a pretty hype variation of the Fortnite Flash, actually. Huh. Again, great for me to learn after making Miku have a wholenote-shaped projectile instead of spinny lunge that sort of has a rhythm to it.
Airborne assult has gotten me more KO'S and saved me from more dangerous situations than i can count
Edit: mainly in spirit battles but as a former pichu main and headbutt being a great horizontal recovery option with AA being a more instantaneous version of it yeah it seems like a good option for a more melee focus play style like i have
Pt also is great with chakram cause the ledge trap and kill potential is great.
nice
TLDR comment for lazy people:
Neutrals:
- Gale Strike 9/10
- Shuriken of Light 7/10
- Blurring Blade 5/10
Sides:
- Airborne Assault 5-7/10
- Gale Stab 4-7/10
- Chakram 10/10
Ups:
- Stone Scabbard 7/10
- Skyward Slash Dash 8/10
- Hero Spin 7/10
Downs:
- Blade Counter 6/10
- Reversal Slash 9/10
- Power Thrust 8 /10
Final "recommended set": 1322
Thank you so much for this video I really wanted to hear someone give thoughts about all the un-used specials. What would you think if power thrust had a spike hitbox :)
I'm glad you like it! I'd love it if Power Thrust could spike; I don't see much use out of PT otherwise, and those sorts of special-move spikes are always really hype.
Just imagine tornado -> power thrust spike
Omg that’d be pure food for every new content creator’s montage holy moly.
I wish the Mii Swordfighter had more projectiles that attack from a distance, such as Neutral B Cloud's Blade Beam that travels a long distance both on the ground and in the air, 4-Hit Stone Scabbard ascending and pressing B will do a descending, safe on Shield, Shield damage capable of destroying it, can be used multiple times in the air for recovery, more horizontal drift to recovery (kill at 50%), Gale Strike It should have less Startup and endlag and that the tornado hit multiple times capable, more shield damage (kill at 70%), Airbone Assault long range and distance, safe on shield and less endlag and startup, can be used multiple times to recovery in the air (knockback 30%), Chakram will become a Neutral B with more Variants of the same attack, long distance, less endlag, Shield damage and knockback 100%, Shuriken of Light strenght both from near and far, less landing lag and shield damage (Knockback 101%), Blurring Blade will become a Side B, long range will become a Side B, , less endlag and startup, Hitboxes on ledge, will become a Side B, more Shield damage (kill at 29%), Skyward Slash Dash more horizontal drift to recovery, used in the air multiple times for recovery, less startup and landinglag (kill 50%), Hero Spin, more horizontal drift, less endlag and startup, long distance to vertical recovery, safe on Shield (kill 27%), Gale Stab, travel a long distance to recovery, Be able to break the opponent's shield in full charge, sure to hold on the ledges, use it multiple times in the air for recovery (Kill at 28%), Blade Counter, horizontal knockback to drive away the opponent, long activation Window, Thrust Power will become a Side B of Gale Stab, long distance to recovery, more knockback, safe on shield, can be used multiple times in the air for recovery (Kill at 20%).
These are some buffs that I would like you to do with the Swordfighter. It would be great if the Mii Swordfighter also had critical attacks in its Smash Attacks, its Forward Smash would become a sword(similar to Marth, Ike, Ganondorf and Roy) with a high speed with less Startup and landing lag covering a big range, more knockback, Up smash a jump lunge similar to Hero's Up tilt covering a huge arc, more knockback, his Down Smash will be the same, he will only have less Startup and landing lag.
PD: Mii Swordfighter It must also have a shield like Link and Hero's to protect itself from projectiles.In another comment I will make a list of projectiles that I would like this character to have in a future installment of Super Smash Bros.
I had this kind of thought before, but I think that both mii brawler & swordfighter should have elemental specials instead of having just 1 elemental special. So here's the ideas that I had in mind:
Mii Swordfighter:
Blurring Blade Variations:
Fire variant: Slow but powerful
Ice variant: Mediocre power and have a 30-58% chance of freezing the opponent
Lighting variant: Fast, have good hitstun, but weak
Normal variant: Mediocre power and speed, much like in smash 4
Mii Brawler:
Exploding Side Kick Variations:
Fire Variant: This is obviously simple, but slightly increase the speed
Ice Variant: Mediocre power and has a 43-61% of freezing the opponent
Lighting Variant: Fast, has a good hitstun, but weak.
Normal Variant: Mediocre power and speed
Burning Dropkick Variations:
Fire Variant: Obvious, slow but powerful
Ice Variant: Mediocre power and has a 27-46% chance of freezing the opponent
Lighting Variant: Fast, has a good hitstun, but weak
Normal Variant: Mediocre power and speed
And that's about it. Of course, Nintendo doesn't have to add this, but it would be nice if they did this tho. Also, gunner is fine in this case since she mostly uses fire and electric special moves.
@@jtj.universal4817 I liked your ideas, although I would prefer that all those attacks kill 0-50% to make it a stronger character. It's only my opinion.
@@olafgarcia6238 True....but personally for me, I think that the Mii fighters deserves a whole lot more than this. But I see where you're getting at though.
Thanks started to use this Character more, I think he has the best Projectile in the Game and the Fakt that he is a Zoner with A Sword makes me questioning why this Character isnt played.
I use personally gale strike, nado, power thrust and hero spin. Might need to put on chakram though
Surprised no mention of shuriken of light true comboing to smash attacks and grab out of a shorthop when delayed vs taller chars. It's pretty useful and you can even cheese with drop from ledge jump shuriken fsmash and it's true
My special would be:
Netural special: blurring blade
Side special: chakaram
Up special:skyward slash dash
Down special: reversal slash
I use blurring blade pretty well.
4:35
"capable of killing early at full charge"
'early'
'115%'
pick one
it does kill at like 30 at ledge tho
@@maddox9001 okay, that makes a lot more sense
Swordfighter plays like falco with SoL and gale stab i recommend it lol. Gale stab has good combos in low percents and SoL combos into alot of moves and creates tons of pressure
Shameless 2323 Mii Swordfighter 3rd-inary here. Shakram, because of course. SSD, because it is by far the most versatile and good recovery, so it takes off a lot of the stress when you try to edgeguard. Plus, you can end a combo off of the side with it quite easily just like with Sephiroth's up B, which can lead to some epic combos. Power thrust because it is an unreactable burst option kill move, which is super scary for our opponents. If you catch your opponent in any bit of lag with a move; bam, down b, DEAD. Lastly, I use shuriken of light because it seems like it probably synergises well with my other choices and completes my moveset, covering other weaknesses, but as it stands currently, I just don't know how to use them. I just know that Gale Strike is predictable, really easy to avoid, very unsafe, cliche, and the only good thing that you can get off of it if you don't have Hero's Spin is Up-air, which is tricky. Plus neutral B 3 is just kinda redundant; mii swordfighter has a lot of good close-range tools, and they just don't really need any more.
Heck, imma still use Blurring Blade
True confirm for Blurring Blade: landing FAir (hits 1 and 2, not 3 since it launches away) > blurry blade
Note: timing for this is very tight so you need to either buffer or rapid click neutral b in order for it to confirm. Jigglypuff and Pichu might be able to SDI or air dodge out of it.
I still think that at the very least this one specifically should've had moves taken from Miitopia. Give it a jump strike side or up b, or change hero spin to resemble the spin slash, SOMETHING from Miitopia. Come on! It's the only game about miis where they actually fight, and the mechanics are actually GOOD.
Mii plaza doesn't count
I wont stand for this mii plaza slander!
@@aqualacerta3961 I meant the fighting part
Personally I would say Airborne Assault is 8/10 because it is a very great tool for recovery even though most people don't use it in competitive play. I think it's pretty decent.
i dont play the character but this video is amazing
Imagine all 3 Mii fighters had like 2 or 3 different moveset to use (not specials, actual movesets). Now of course, this is only my opinion so Nintendo doesn't have to add this feature into the game, but it would be nice if they did. I'll try & relate Mii Brawler's movesets from real life, Swordfighter's movesets from Miitopia, & just general fanmade for gunner. That being said, Here's the different movesets that I would like Mii Swordfighter to have (doing it based on video):
Swordfighter would have 2 different movesets along side with his default. Here's the 2 different movesets:
Warrior: This is a little similar to the 3 links, & a little combination of Marth/Lucina, Roy, & Chrom, along side with some assets from Miitopia
Slasher: This moveset will deal with rapid jabs & quick attacks like Young Link's rapid jab, Marth, Lucina, Roy, & Chrom's neutral air, & some assets from other swords characters
Yeah, it would be neat if Mii Swordfighter could fight like Roy/Chrom and not having to be balanced around having projectiles. All into speed and power!
I personally prefer the charge dash over airborne assault, mainly because it comes out faster and allows for faster followups from farther away.
Man I love 3131 Mii Swordfighter