6 Popular CNC Myths People Believe

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • Why buy a CNC for woodworking? They cost so much and are hard to use? Right? Debunking your fears about CNC!
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  • @731Woodworks
    @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

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  • @xof-woodworkinghobbyist
    @xof-woodworkinghobbyist Před 7 měsíci +18

    My main reasons for not getting a CNC are: I am an IT guy, woodworking is an escape from computers... and I have no space in my 12 x 15 shop.
    Nice video as usual.

    • @timpindell8178
      @timpindell8178 Před 7 měsíci +2

      As am I, and while I understand unplugging... I may have sent a design or two from my work computer to run :)

    • @ggholliday23
      @ggholliday23 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I'm a developer and woodworking is my escape as well. I find that 90% of what I do in the shop is still "traditional woodworking", 5% is CNC and the other 5% is trying to find where I put my pencil and ruler. I bought the Fox Alien Vasto. It's on the smaller side, but it's perfect for what I do, which is mostly batching out Christmas ornaments and most recently inlays on cutting boards. To me doing the design work in CAD is a lot different than writing code, so it can be an escape too.

    • @louisfbrooks
      @louisfbrooks Před 7 měsíci +1

      Getting a CNC so I don't have to be an IT guy anymore. I went with the Onefinity but this one was also high on my list.

    • @5280Woodworking
      @5280Woodworking Před 7 měsíci +1

      I’m an engineer and programmer. For years I built high end furniture and personally CNC has just added another level of immersion and enjoyment into woodworking.

    • @thingswelike
      @thingswelike Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I have a 3D printer, a CNC and a Laser engraver and quite often I find myself just doing a job with hand tools so that I don't have to go back to the computer. I work from home, so it would just be more time spent in the same room with the same computer.

  • @CNCmachiningisfun
    @CNCmachiningisfun Před měsícem

    I designed and built my first CNC mill, 12 years ago - and it is still going strong :) .
    It weighs more than 1/4 ton, and it really gets the job done.
    I did this, because CNC machining is fun :) .

  • @gaylewilliams7353
    @gaylewilliams7353 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Every time I see one of your CNC videos, it makes me want one all over again! Now I have to go back and watch your other videos again and talk myself out of a CNC - again! Thanks, Matt! 🤩

  • @vincevasquezii9586
    @vincevasquezii9586 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video very informative. I was in the same boat a few years ago but pulled the trigger and couldn’t be happier.

  • @jaredvandyke
    @jaredvandyke Před 7 měsíci

    I really appreciated the video and all that you covered. It did help clear up some things I was thinking about even being out of my price range right now.

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video as always Matt thanks for sharing

  • @nedrahobson9841
    @nedrahobson9841 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for this and ALL of your videos!!! I purchased the Shapeoko Pro XXL in June of 2021 and haven’t used it yet 😳😳😳
    This video has inspired me, and after I watch some more of your CNC videos, I’m gonna plug it in and attempt something 👍🏾

  • @user-gw2ms7zg7x
    @user-gw2ms7zg7x Před 22 dny

    Great content provider - quick concise dialogue based around practical experience

  • @bachplucked
    @bachplucked Před 7 měsíci +2

    I have a Onefinity CNC which is another company with excellent support. Not making a lot of money with it yet just making a lot of things for friends and family. I used to make some custom trim for a friends house that he couldn’t find any place.

  • @drewjbx228
    @drewjbx228 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I took a big risk and purchased a CNC straight from China (Alpha CNC Co). This was my first CNC purchase... A full size 4x8 CNC with vacuum table and pumps, 50mm rotary axis, 20mm square guide rails, all steel gantry and welded frame, 3.7kw water cooled spindle, Mach3 control system (old but works well for me). I am still learning, as of now I can do profile cuts through 3/4" MDF at a feedrate of 250 single pass with no vibration on the gantry or table. The CNC is very solid and accurate and I am happy I purchased it. I paid around 5700 for it. With cargo shipping the total came to around 10K. I have to say all your points you mention are valid... and you will realize it is just another great tool in the shop for you to utilize. The more you put into it the more you will get out of it.

  • @stlwoodworking
    @stlwoodworking Před 7 měsíci

    I'm super happy that I added the CNC to my shop. I have the 4 Pro as well and now have the 5 Pro except I have the 4x4

  • @dopatrick1
    @dopatrick1 Před 7 měsíci

    love you videos, you have helped me so much on getting my business started. keep it up and THANK YOU FOR YOU SERVICE

  • @richragan4810
    @richragan4810 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you Matt! This is always in and out of my mind and you helped a lot.

  • @josephhughes2784
    @josephhughes2784 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Im definitely looking into getting a Onefinity Elite CNC. It will easily make back its money. 🔥

    • @kevinkruse88
      @kevinkruse88 Před 7 měsíci

      I have the x35.
      It is well worth it.

    • @D-GatDesignsLLC
      @D-GatDesignsLLC Před 7 měsíci

      I have the elite woodworker, it is an awesome machine! Had it for a couple of months it has improved my productivity tremendously over my previous machine

  • @henryamaya7940
    @henryamaya7940 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've had the advantage that my father built a 4' x 4' CNC and we use VCarve Pro with it. Because of this I was able to get into woodworking in general in 2017

  • @garymiller5937
    @garymiller5937 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the explanation on the CNC, I have an understanding of CNC mills, but not routers. You did an excellent job with the overview! I'm certain many of us are interested in them and how they work. 😊😊😊❤❤❤ And if you don't mind, where do you buy your inspirational T-shirts? Tanks Matt. 😊😊

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks, most of the shirts come from Kerusso.com

  • @pauldurham2527
    @pauldurham2527 Před 7 měsíci

    I also have the 5 pro and I agree with every comment that you made in this video. Carbide create is by far the easiest program to operate also in my opinion.

  • @scottmay8986
    @scottmay8986 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. I've been on the fence between getting a laser machine or CNC. This sealed the deal on the CNC!

  • @unlistedunlisted3108
    @unlistedunlisted3108 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the information. I am a hobbyist wood worker and have a laser engraver and have been thinking about a cnc router.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 Před 7 měsíci

      I have a Shaper Origin (my retirement gift to me). It's a blast to operate. "Programming" is easy, particularly since they have the "Trace" tool out now. Take picture with your cell phone one minute and be carving the image the next. It's certainly not a production tool but it's not size constrained, either. There are videos of people doing medallion inlays in hardwood floors. I'll never be confident enough to do that but it's a fun tool to operate.
      BTW, Trace converts an image to a .SVG, so it can be used with virtually any CNC. It is limited in size to about the size of an 8-1/2x11 sheet of paper but it's only $100 with no additional software costs ("forever").

  • @monikasturm2575
    @monikasturm2575 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Every Christmas my husband and I buy one "Toy" for ourselves. This year it was going to be a CNC but our shop is full of my son's furniture. Guess I'll settle for a drill press this year. 😂

    • @tektrixter
      @tektrixter Před 7 měsíci

      You can get a small desktop cnc for cheap to learn the basics and do small projects until your son collects his furniture. Then you will know more of what to look for in a more capable cnc.

  • @mikegager
    @mikegager Před 5 měsíci +2

    i bought a x carve CNC and it kind of ruined the fun of woodworking for me. i spent so much time hassling with it i didnt spend any time doing any actual woodworking. kind of got burnt out and stopped doing it all together.

  • @timpindell8178
    @timpindell8178 Před 7 měsíci +1

    My only issue, and seems to still be ongoing with Shapeoko, is the random turrets of the router plunging or misbehaving randomly. There is no way to debug this, support can't help after the fact, and other people don't complain about this issue running different machines. Support is totally top notch though, you are correct about that. Had a pro 4 XXL and when budget allows I will be in the market again.

    • @newmonengineering
      @newmonengineering Před 5 měsíci

      Suggestion, find a cnc visualizer. See if the cut file looks the correct depth before trying to cut. I have had issues in CAM software causing this. Sometimes it's not the machine but a poor CAM profile or setting that is causing the software to do such a thing. I have saved many headaches by loading the gcide into a simulation first to verify things. I have had plunges generated by many software and it normally is found in the simulation. Just look for a cut below the rest of the cuts. If it's there try regenerating or checking settings and then generate gcode again.

  • @casanovacoins1879
    @casanovacoins1879 Před 4 měsíci

    I actually bought the same shapeoko 5 pro 4x2 from watching your videos. For the Amanda bowl bit mentioned in the video, would you mind sharing the the running tool specs you use when running it on your machine?

  • @Damon_Barber
    @Damon_Barber Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very informative and convincing! If I were on the fence before, I would not be after this video!

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @Damon_Barber
      @Damon_Barber Před 7 měsíci

      @@731Woodworks I think you made a great point about the price vs value as well. I think sometimes the sticker shock can keep us from seeing the big picture and seeing the worth/value vs the price tag on many tools.

    • @paulbateman5769
      @paulbateman5769 Před 7 měsíci

      What software? I was almost there a while back but the minefield of different software packages made me give up. Subscriptions, yearly charges, what different software can and cannot do. When I don't even know what I want to do with a cnc yet this put me off in the end

  • @JoeBrinkman66
    @JoeBrinkman66 Před 4 měsíci

    I definitely think a CNC is coming in the next year or two for my shop. My wife and I were looking to expand our business a couple of years ago and were torn between a CNC and a Laser. We went with the laser first as it had more versatility for the types of products we sell. We are almost at the point where adding a CNC makes sense for the business. For me, the OneFinity seems like the right machine. The new Elite series looks like a pretty solid machine with a great controller. I am especially excited by not having a box of 10,000 parts to assemble.

  • @Duckmanloren
    @Duckmanloren Před 7 měsíci

    Hey Matt, it's off topic, but I am waiting for my Rikon 10-326 bandsaw to be delivered. I remember you got a wheel base for it, and it didn't hold up. Did you get a replacement and if so could you tell me what you got. Thank you for your help.

  • @dwayneattard5265
    @dwayneattard5265 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If the price is an issue you could make it yourself. The price of the premade CNC covers your time to design and build it. Regarding the bits being confusing I agree. I can never get the feeds and speeds right which is very important to avoid burnout.

  • @Onix_1962
    @Onix_1962 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the Myth Busting. maybe in the near(ish) future, one of these tools will be appearing in my shop.

  • @rickpouley7561
    @rickpouley7561 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video.. I think a lot of people look at this the same way.. Cost... But, I am buying mine because I need to get some of my items a lot faster than using my band saw..

  • @94Toyota
    @94Toyota Před 7 měsíci

    Can you please make a video comparing Woodpeckers vs Woodraphic? Thank you!

  • @DragonEyeOfficial
    @DragonEyeOfficial Před 7 měsíci

    man ! you are a machine ! how much video you do a month ! its crazy !! thats awesome !

  • @BB-wj8dv
    @BB-wj8dv Před 7 měsíci

    It's also a developable skill set. I just interviewed for a job operating g-code based cnc machines and lasers off my 5 years of running my own machines. Vcarve software and Lightburn are making their way into sign builders, cabinet makers, and all sorts of industries.
    Now I was never able to turn a profit off my machine, but I think it's on my dismal business skills, not my machine or my work quality, I just can't seem to understand advertising.

  • @patrickjames3954
    @patrickjames3954 Před 7 měsíci

    Hey Matt, I am on the process of buying a CNC. You touched on several questions I was asking myself. WRT the learning curve, maybe add something that if you use a Laser, the skills are similar. THe only question you did not answer for me - do I start with a $500-$1000 machine to figure out what I really want/need. Or do I jump to a professional machine. Otherwise this video was spot on!! nice job

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think it depends on your budget. If you have the budget for a more professional machine, I'd say get that now. But I have the "buy nice or buy twice" mentality on that sort of thing. However, if you are unsure if you'll enjoy CNC or will be able to generate the amount of profit to make it viable (or just use as a hobby machine), then the lower end model might be a perfect fit for your use.

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The primary hazards of getting a CNC are: you might break a bit & ruin a piece of wood; and that you will discover that it’s great but you now want a bigger one or one with more features (like an automatic-tool-change spindle)…

  • @tom.coomes
    @tom.coomes Před 7 měsíci

    Have you ever tried Chris’s CNC bits from “A Glimpse Inside”? He has been selling them for a while now. I don’t have a CNC yet so I don’t have any experience in them.

  • @TheBenjiLewis
    @TheBenjiLewis Před 7 měsíci

    I bought a CNC less than 2 months ago. I got an order for 200 engraved cutting boards after 1 month of use. That one job paid for CNC, drum sander, and dust collection with some profit leftover still. So, I’d say get a cnc if you’re at all interested in it and have a few ideas on how to make money off it.

  • @matthewgaylen2827
    @matthewgaylen2827 Před 7 měsíci

    value is determined exclusively by what a person is willing to pay for a product or service.

  • @richiejames928
    @richiejames928 Před 7 měsíci

    Always worth checking the run out on this things by chucking up a sharp pencil and watching if it draws a dot or a circle…you don’t want a circle.

  •  Před 7 měsíci

    My CNC: ShopSabre IS408 w/10HP spindle and 4x8 bed. 12HP Becker Vacuum.

  • @AB-nu5we
    @AB-nu5we Před 7 měsíci +1

    All excellent points. If I was a production woodworker, I'd have a CNC. I like the brand you're using. I think a 3d printer is probably higher on my list though. Also, great t-shirt. That says it all.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 Před 7 měsíci

      Exactly. I'd wager that that 99% of Matt's followers are hobbyists, so there is no "payback" on any tool, much less once something that costs over $5,000.
      I've been thinking about a cheap 3-D printer, just for play. I never have the right fittings for dust extractors (why isn't there any standardization? )

    • @mrljvb
      @mrljvb Před 7 měsíci

      CNC and 3d Printers meet different use cases. They complement each other and woodworking in general, but neither are a replacement for each other. Think of a CNC as an additional employee that does repetative tasks while you do other things if you are a production shop. But if you are a production shop, you would want something more heavy duty, large steel framed with vacuum table, all of the machines I listed above, this one on the review, and in general, any that uses aluminum extrusions, regardless of the cost, are considered as hobbyist machines.

    • @kwilliams2239
      @kwilliams2239 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think that's understood. At least as I understood the comment was that he was looking for the next toy. Sure, 3D printers are a whole different world but most of us have other ways of doing what a CNC does for the hobbyist. As such a CNC is down on the list. As you say, it's a whole different world.
      I, too, am interested in 3D printing. It seems to be a much more complicated world than CNC. It's also an order of magnitude cheaper. They can be had for about the price of a good router, easily within the reach of most hobbyists. Exactly my conundrum.

  • @jvmiller1995
    @jvmiller1995 Před 7 měsíci

    If you know a little about lumber and how it i sawn you can get Walnut and hardwoods online from people who slab trees local. I hooked up with a guy in my small town and Ijust ask for the little drops that do not make a 6 or 8 ft board. I just picked up two walnut slabs 2 feet long 3in thick and about a foot wide. almost 12 board feet if you have a planer and bandsaw real easy to get to resaw and finish cut. Dude even tossed in a 6ft 8"x3" inch splatted maple. I got them all for 20 bucks. It is not all 1/4 sawn and one will need to be cut up and rearranged if you was to make a wide board that will not cup. not a big deal for me as I going to use the walnut for cutting boards. You most likely want to pick up a cheaper moister gage to check they are dry and stable. No big deal. I found mine on market place and craigs list has them too.

  • @funkid28060
    @funkid28060 Před 7 měsíci

    im broke and trying to get into woodworking i love you vids

  • @windwardsailor6427
    @windwardsailor6427 Před 6 měsíci

    I have a shaper origin and thinking of adding a machine like this to my shop. I love my shaper, don't get me wrong, but its some what tedious to do projects in scale with it. Curious to know if anyone has one or is in a similar situation. If I get a large table top CNC like this one, are there any ideas on how I can continue to use my shaper in conjunction with the table CNC. I have to say, selling my shaper is on the table but would like to find a place or use for it if I get a table CNC. I'm grateful for any input or feedback - Thanks!

  • @ForvoQuizlet
    @ForvoQuizlet Před 7 měsíci

    Check out your local makerspace if they have a CNC. Far less expensive and you can see if the CNC life is for you before making the plunge.

  • @DebsHill1
    @DebsHill1 Před 7 měsíci

    inspired to get one but still out of price range. Here in New Zealand the cost of cnc’s way higher than USA.

  • @johngreene5797
    @johngreene5797 Před 5 měsíci

    Legacy makes the best CNC = flat, rotary, end stock (box/dovetail joints)

  • @FixItFrench
    @FixItFrench Před 7 měsíci

    I’ve been torn on getting a CNC for a while. I don’t have enough clients to justify buying a really nice one, but at the same time I know I will get more clients because I have a CNC

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's a tough spot for sure. I really wish there was a CNC that was more affordable but also still good quality.

    • @FixItFrench
      @FixItFrench Před 7 měsíci

      @@731Woodworks yeah I’ve thought about a few cheap ones off Amazon. A woodworker in my hometown told me that I would probably regret it in the long run.

  • @ponyboyc
    @ponyboyc Před 7 měsíci

    Space for me is the only issue but at the same time I know it will come eventually and it forces me to use what I have

  • @RDSWOODWORKING
    @RDSWOODWORKING Před 7 měsíci

    I was going to buy one but I have a 2 car garage and I need to organize it and right now that's hard because I have to take care of a cancer patient who's my mother but I am looking into getting one

  • @mrljvb
    @mrljvb Před 7 měsíci +3

    And remember folks.. he who dies with the most tools wins.. even if you don't build anything :)

  • @FuzzyLiger
    @FuzzyLiger Před 7 měsíci +11

    Not it’s “a lot of money” it’s “that is a lot of money (I do not have).”

    • @JamesSmullins
      @JamesSmullins Před 7 měsíci +4

      Exactly, it's a lot of money up front and it's more than most wood workers are going to have specially when there's so many other tools for less that can make work easier and better.

    • @LavinWoodworks
      @LavinWoodworks Před 7 měsíci +2

      Others save up and make their money back but it’s not for everyone. Because something is a lot of money doesn’t mean it’s out of reach. If your just fiddling around and don’t want to try and make money then it’s not for you unless you have money to burn which by your comments you don’t.

    • @JamesSmullins
      @JamesSmullins Před 7 měsíci

      @@LavinWoodworks I'm now the sole income at home due to family health, so it's not a matter of just saving anymore.

    • @LavinWoodworks
      @LavinWoodworks Před 7 měsíci

      @@JamesSmullins then it’s clearly not for you. Doesn’t mean it’s not for someone else with a different situation. Everybody’s situation is different. Also I’m sorry to hear about your family’s health. Wishing you the best on that front.

    • @JamesSmullins
      @JamesSmullins Před 7 měsíci

      @@LavinWoodworks where did I say it wasn't for others? I said there's a lot of people who can't just get one. What I'm doing is building my own, buying a part here and there. The advantage there is I get what I want more than I can buying a ready made one. Frankly they're overpriced for what they are.

  • @Ceen328
    @Ceen328 Před 5 měsíci

    My #1 and only reason - space. I work in my basement in an around 80 sqft so no CNC for me.

  • @Mike-ou5ps
    @Mike-ou5ps Před 7 měsíci

    Howdy Mr. 731...
    Ahhh. The CNC. Controversial indeed. Depending on your POV.
    I'm on the side of the fence where I don't consider the use of a CNC to be "True" Woodworking. And boy ohhh boy have I gotten flack for my views in the 731 forums for that.
    But, I never said it wasn't a useful tool to have. It definitely is. I just have a hang up when people with little to no Woodworking experience at all turn around and drop $5k on or more on one and then say "LOOK what I made". To me, it's Insulting as a Decades old Woodcrafter to see that nonsense cause in reality, "THAT" person actually only bought themselves a $5k dollar employee that did the work for them.
    Back to Topic though...
    I worked at a CNC shop for approximately 5 years. It was a Plastics shop, not Woodworking. But, I was hired BECAUSE of my skill with Woodcraft which could and was easily transferred to Plastics. Essentially, it's the same tools, I'm just using Plastic instead of Wood.
    I was hired as an Assistant to their CNC operator.
    I can VOUCH that learning G-Code and the operations of a CNC is quite a bit of a learning curve. Cause it's not just a matter of loading up a File and hitting "Go"...there's MUCH more to it than that. Visualization of 3D on a 2D computer screen was VITAL.
    We used a very very simple program called Bobcat/BobCad. You probably never heard of it, as it's an older G-Code software. But, it got the job done and we made LOTS of stuff for the Oil Field, Ambulances, and even The DeLorean Car company.
    It took me 6 months to learn how to operate the machine (5' x 10' table) AND learn to write my own programs. I didn't have the benefit of having a CNC company to hold my hand. I learned by paying attention to the 15 year Vet whom I was an assistant too. So, in a way, I was better off cause I had hands on training AND GOT PAID for it.
    So...I can DEFINITELY agree with you that the Tool can be a very Productive Tool to have as long as you have the dedication to learning it, as with any tool.
    But, the biggest hangup with a CNC isn't necessarily the COST....It's the space required.
    I'd say 80% of Woodcrafters out there trying to make their mark in this market barely have enough space for the required essential Woodworking tools. For a $5k CNC like yours, sure, it might fit in a corner of a shop, but it's also the cost of Electrical, ducting, lighting, computer (not to mention keeping dust away from the computer). Clamps, air flow and extraction, exhaust of all that stuff.
    $5k grand is just the tip of the ice berg on the costs for a proper setup for a CNC as it can easily cost another $5k just to get it up and running.
    And then, you STILL don't know what's going to sell until you play around in the market of "YOUR" area....and of course, that's after you've gone through the MONTHS of training just to use the CNC without breaking expensive Bits.
    All of that combined together is why I can not agree with anyone buying a CNC without already having at least 5 years of Woodworking experience under their belt.
    So, I have to remain vigilant on my POV of this NOT being a tool for a Weekend Woodworker. It's a HUGE investment and MANY people don't TRULY understand that. They see these Xpro models and at that point, all they see is dollar signs instead of Reality.
    So...Though I love ya like a Brother Mr. Buttons...I can't agree with you on this particular topic. CNC machines should NOT be a tool an aspiring woodcrafter should even think about getting.
    Loved the Video though 😊

  • @SleeperHoundDesign
    @SleeperHoundDesign Před 7 měsíci

    I think people aren't willing to save for a cnc because they want other things. It was a tool I saved for just like my lathe and my tablesaw. I got a used x carve and it was 4 months of saving but it was worth it. I live the capabilities it goves me.

  • @JohnLaudun
    @JohnLaudun Před 7 měsíci +1

    I tried not to, but "you're not getting" and "your shop."

  • @yossiyaari3760
    @yossiyaari3760 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video.
    But you didn't mention space as a limitation 🙂

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci +1

      true lol, it is a factor. There are smaller machines from 2' x 2' up to as big as you can afford lol.

    • @timpindell8178
      @timpindell8178 Před 7 měsíci

      @@731Woodworks Well.... you could mount it vertically to the wall as well :)

  • @birdymcpig
    @birdymcpig Před 7 měsíci

    I just bought a Nomad 3 to expand my hobby capabilities. The second most expensive thing I’ve purchased. [edit: on your glowing review of Carbide 3D I must add]

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci

      I want one of those so bad, but can't justify it since I have the 5 Pro lol

    • @birdymcpig
      @birdymcpig Před 7 měsíci

      I’d love a Shapeoko, but I don’t have the space.

  • @ratmax1231
    @ratmax1231 Před 7 měsíci

    Sienci Labs Longmill mynes 30X30 they have made more upgrades and things sence then

  • @mikem1436
    @mikem1436 Před 7 měsíci

    Is that Milwaukee tool box still forsale?

    • @mattivirta
      @mattivirta Před 4 měsíci

      empty box have, all tools have many different brand, worst has festool, ower price but not good tools.

  • @kernchapman
    @kernchapman Před 7 měsíci

    well, I don't have the money yet, but I definitely don't have the space. Give me some time and it will be done!

  • @rufogallardo7168
    @rufogallardo7168 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think I am going dumber today, but I have no idea how the packout example he made applies to any of the points he made on the videos.
    Great video tho

  • @renaissancewoodworking

    I love my little CNC.

  • @GroberWeisenstein
    @GroberWeisenstein Před 7 měsíci

    I'll take 2 for 800 Alex. Add tooling costs. Any piece of equipment is worth its weight In liability if it's not running.

  • @duanet3218
    @duanet3218 Před 7 měsíci

    Do you feel that some CNC's will be featured for Black Friday Sale? I'm already on your text message list also!

    • @731Woodworks
      @731Woodworks  Před 7 měsíci

      I'm not sure, but I'll keep my eye out for deals

  • @yellowhammerwoodcrafts
    @yellowhammerwoodcrafts Před 7 měsíci

    Can I still buy that Milwaukee packout? 😂

  • @asbrand
    @asbrand Před 7 měsíci

    Someday... :)

  • @timriddle1401
    @timriddle1401 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cool shirt, where can I get one?

  • @Zerozombie77
    @Zerozombie77 Před 7 měsíci +2

    If someone has electronics background they can build one for 1000 or less. Thats what I did and it works better than my friends 5000 dollar machine. And all the programming is all free software. Say what!

    • @mattivirta
      @mattivirta Před 4 měsíci

      have sure all normal men can build own cnc machine at home shop easy and totally cheapen than buy cnc machine shapeoke or other brand machines, DIY can buil 4-5 x cheapen better machine, many brand cnc have totally small stepper motors, and weak rails, better orden parts and build at shop own cnc what size you shop can use, better biggest motors and drivers, cheap order, better rails order, better spindle than all worst routers, REAL spindle need be, have lot silent and better torque power. and ALL parts have sure totally cheapen than shapeoke or other ready machines. but lot lot better strongest biggest and silent.

  • @Coen80
    @Coen80 Před 3 měsíci

    130 bucks for a square ..... 😂😂😂😂
    You ain't got stuff square if you pay that much 😂😂😂
    Ooooh but it has such a nice colour.... 😅

  • @michiganracer1181
    @michiganracer1181 Před 7 měsíci

    Don’t disagree with buying a CNC to add to your business model and product offerings.

  • @D-GatDesignsLLC
    @D-GatDesignsLLC Před 7 měsíci

    I have three CNCs (no I don't have an addiction). Allow me to tell you the story of my CNC adventure. It started last year when I decided I wanted to pull the trigger and get a onefinity woodworker x50 but there was a problem, 2 problems actually, 1) they had a 8-10week lead time 2) I'm very impatient. So rather than wait and went with my 2nd option, the longmill mk1...which out to be a disaster. NO IM NOT GOING TO BASH THEM, by all other accounts they have a great machine, I got a lemon that caused me so many issues after running fine for a few months that I bought a smaller Millright Carve King 2. Nice litte cnc, only 15x15 cut area but was fine for what I needed...at the time. After many many months of trying to get my longmill running consistently (oh and to be clear the company customer service was great and we tried everything we could to fix this thing) I decided to just cut my losses with the longmill mk1 and went back to getting a onefinity and their new cnc the elite woodworker which now had a lead time of 10-12 weeks!! Anyway I got my onefinity back in early October and couldn't be happier. Was it expensive, yes...over $4K. BUT it drastically improved my efficiency by not only having a bigger work area (32"x32 with the option of expanding to 32"x48") but it cuts faster than either of my previous machines and twist the depth of cut per pass.

  • @Sailor1010
    @Sailor1010 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This video is for people who run a business. I’m just a hobbyist wood worker. I can’t justify spending the money just for fun.