Huge Changes To Zelda Coming CONFIRMED By Nintendo
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I’ll save you all 11 minutes. New game, new world, no ultra hand.
You are welcome.
Save you 3 minutes of your time. Eiji Aonuma says there won't be a direct sequel to tears. So a new game / world / etc is next. I hate these clickbaity videos.
I'd like to see a traditional Zelda game structure, but set in an open world. My main problem with BotW/TotK is that everything is too repetitive. So having the dungeons and item progression of a traditional Zelda in addition to the exploration of a new Zelda would be pretty close to perfect imo.
I couldn't agree more
Yep, that'd be really fun. Maybe a return to Hero of Time? Please?
Preach brother!!
Judging by how other open world games do it, I do not think that would work well. They struggle immensely with the dissonance between the freedom of their worlds, and the linearity of their stories
@@ArtemisWasHereOut of curiousity... what are some examples for reference?
I love the new Zelda’s but twilight princess will always have that special spot in my heart it was just so well done and the setting was amazing
It can't be beat, i get that warm fuzzy feeling every time I play it. They need to make a remake so bad, it's way over due.
The only thing I would say about twilight princess was it was in my opinion very easy but a brilliant game
@@amberruby4896 I personally know someone with industry experience who’s remaking the game and story with an actual large team. Very risky on his part financially but it must be done
As long as the DUNGEONS become more like the traditional style, I’ll be happy
I think the best case scenario for me personally would be a zelda game with an open world like TOTK, but with a lot of the aspects of the older games, like more than just 4 dungeons (that are actually long and complicated)
I don't want to see Zelda go backwards and become 100% linear again, but I also would like for them to create a game that has all the best parts of classic zelda, with all the best parts of BOTW/TOTK. I would also like for them to build on TOTK's sage aspect system where you can actually have the characters themselves as companions to adventure with you...I would also love to see them create entirely new lore of zelda again like they did with the zonai in TOTK. I want a zelda game that can be played for hours and hours like TOTK, but with the dungeons, items, etc of the classic older zelda games. For example, I enjoy the fact that I can do any of the TOTK dungeons in any order that I want, but I wish the dungeons were ACTUALLY like the classic zelda dungeons, map, compass, keys, boss key and all. I want it to feel like classic zelda while also still feeling fresh and new. A modern spin on a classic formula.
One point about the sages. I think they opted for phantoms because they knew that 5 sages running around ALL the time would get annoying in many situations. Of course it's cool to have an actual companion. But phantoms are superior in any other regard. You can turn them off, they are invincible, no need to share food (although on the other hand, you could maybe send them grinding for food and monster parts, which would be cool - but phantoms could be used like this as well if they wanted that)
8 regions that are more closed of to the other regions with all having a dungeon, items and less filler content like shrines, caves and krugs. I still wonder why they didnt include the clawshot in botw, in botw climbing is a huge thing and even a normal clawshot wouldve been huge and if they dont like the idea of people just rushing to get it and making everything easier, they could lock it behind shrines where you need a certain amount of shrines until you unlock a clawshot module, generally we needed more modules over the course of the game in my opinion
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. Skyward Sword is the ultimate lore/story/character experience with some of the best showings of the ocarina formula. Botw went all in on exploration and finding your own way to play with Totk continuing that. They have polar opposite weaknesses and strengths. Combine their strengths even if it takes FOREVER to come out, you will probably make the perfect video game. You can look at how other Zelda’s balanced themselves but I’m happy we have examples of reaching for the extremes.
A bit like A Link Between Worlds but in 3d and a lot bigger
The only Zelda game that was 100% linear was Skyward Sword. A Link to the Past, Oot, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess pretty much let you explore entire map after the tutorial, with the only limitation being some obstacles that require an item found in a dungeon. A Link Between Worlds even let you beat dungeons in any order. Maybe the next Zelda game can do something similar.
I would really, REALLY enjoy a Zelda game with more kingdoms, specially after with the absence of Kass, and the presence of Yona, that tells us that there are other kingdoms. I would also like to have a companion. I would like to have Hyrule with other kingdoms with new kingdoms, and maybe Link being older (not a lot) and being like, queen Zelda's general/king. And resolving diplomatic issues and wars, with a brand new villain
We've known there are other kingdoms for decades, what are you on about?
In fact, we've *played* in other kingdoms already.
@@SchrollShepard I mean, in this current version of hyrule.
@@raphaelcarvalhobezerra6913 I don't think we'll see this version of Hyrule anymore. From that interview, they seem to be going back to making each game its own version in a different spot on the timeline. Which I personally prefer, as that means more variety in visuals, gameplay, story, challenges, etc.
@@SchrollShepard I know. Im just saying that i would like a third game in this Hyrule with these characteristics.
You do. Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity@@raphaelcarvalhobezerra6913
Something I noticed is a big huge difference between BotW/TotK and the original Legend of Zelda that the open world is supposedly inspired by, is that in the original Legend of Zelda there was some level of progression through the dungeons. There were certain items that were absolutely required to get through certain dungeons, such as the ladder for example, or items like the flute that were required to beat certain bosses or reveal the entrance to certain dungeons.
You had a large degree of freedom to enter any dungeon you wanted, and there was even a great deal of freedom, to a certain degree, for what order you get the dungeon items. But there was still a progression of sorts to it. Not a fully linear progression, but a pseudo-progression with certain dungeons requiring certain gatekeeper items, and other dungeons having no such obstacles.
I think a lot of people miss that, and not having that kind of progression is what made BotW/TotK feel repetitive to a lot of people. I think Aonuma should revisit that concept of gatekeeper items, and study it a bit more.
I agree, that was definitely something I missed in BotW and TotK. Would love to see it make a comeback in some fashion.
He said himself he doesn't understand why fans want to "go back" to that more linear "restrictive" style of games.
By not having gatekeeper items, it restricts how much freedom the developers have when creating puzzles for dungeons. Having your base abilities is good for shrines, but not for dungeons.
Given Aonuma's recent comments on open and freedom-based gameplay, I have a feeling it'll be a long time before any game he makes will have any of that again. Or maybe he's just talking it up for TotK sales. But I do not like any of the post-TotK launch interviews he's given. He basically backhanded the lore that the most dedicated fans love about the series and waved off all of the old core design philosophies as not worth the time of day anymore. Really felt insulting to the series's dedicated fans and the people who designed those old games. Even insulting to himself. I lost a lot of respect for him in that interview a few months back
The original Zelda had some sense of progression, but in the context of its time it was startlingly non-linear. In a time when most games with any sort of depth were fairly linear platformers, the idea of an open overworld, plus numbered “levels” that could be accessed out of the “correct order”, was kind of revolutionary.
So I don’t think this is really an inconsistency between the original Zelda and the new games, I think this is just the basic design philosophy of the original adapting to keep up with the changes that have happened in game design in general over the last few decades.
I want a story focused Zelda with dramatic twists and sad and dark elements. Please give me the strange feeling from Majoras Mask with the style from Twilight Princes and a Souls like combat experience with hardcore bosses. Anyone else agrees with me?
I would like them to give Link a combo system and a master sword skill tree similar to Kratos in Ragnarok
@@last-yakuza-8363I don’t really understand why they never fully commit to Link having multiple sword techniques, that was one of the coolest things about Wind Waker and Twilight Princess
I agree
No souls combat please. There is a lot of souls like wannabe today and Zelda doesn't need to be another generic souls like.
@@aloneinthelight7754 yeah, Link needs to find the secret sword skills, hidden in the Dungeons. I would love to see the sword techniques like in TP return.
From a story standpoint, it's a little disappointing that they're leaving this version of Hyrule behind with all the mysteries they've planted that could have been explored in a Calamity era game of 10,000 years ago.
But from a hardware and gameplay perspective, it's definitely exciting to see where they go next starting from scratch utilizing everything they learned from these 2 games.
Yeah, that's where I'm going to disagree hard with Aonuma, there's a LOT that can be done with this between that part of the past, the ancient hero, more stuff with the zonai themself... so much can be done.
I hated how the Zonai were just kinda the reason for everything. The Dragons, the skyislands, the depths. It doesn't mesh well with what was established in BotW.
I don't think that leaving this Hyrule behind makes it impossible to continue exploring its loose plot threads. I think it's very possible to start a fresh new Zelda while exploring the mysteries presented in prior titles. My frustration is that Nintendo does not seem to try too hard with that kind of thing. There's your returning enemies and elements, but the continuity of backstory between those elements seem to be an afterthought much of the time.
I do wonder who invents the backstory and lore of these games. Whoever those people are, I think there should be more of them and more integral to creative progress.
I think the consensus is definitely that everyone wants the perfect blend between traditional and new, and what we've received so far just isn't that (doesn't mean it's "bad", it just isn't that). . . my personal belief is that in order to even come close to achieving that kind of vision, they have to be willing to re-impose some restrictions on player progression. Right now, I think the games are in a state of being TOO open; there's TOO much freedom, whether that be in how puzzles are constructed and easily cheesed, how poorly the story is delivered / received, etc. You can still create a fantastic open world experience without being so literal to the point that immediately after post-tutorial, you can go and beat the game.
There's too much freedom and the enemies and bosses just feel kind of underwhelming unless you just don't use armor or get a ton of hearts and that's no fun
@@mangodango1733 Oh, I agree. The combat sucks and needs a massive overhaul.
@@DKCreo I really don't get it when people say these games had the best Zelda combat. Twilight Princess had by far the best combat with the awesome finishing moves you could do.
@@Sir_Adam Because you can do a lot more.
Everyone definitely doesn't want the perfect blend. That would be the worst option, you just think it'd be a good one. TotK was too gated as is, I wouldn't want more of that.
There are a lot of things that I really like about TOTK and a lot of things that I hate about TOTK.
I kind of like the open world structure, but I also really miss the traditional somewhat linear progression of the story. The dungeons were just too repetitive story wise.
There are some other mechanics I could go into, but my main number one complaint is the kinda boring repetitive story elements. The plot holes are also really annoying, but for the most part I can get past them.
Another minor complaint is how grindy the game is. Without a duplication glitch it can take a really ridiculously long time to collect resources.
i think repetitive is the right word for totk, at the start you get new stuff and have a progression but over time it gets less and less until alot of things just feel repetitive. After 150 hours everything was kinda pointless to me cause you get basically nothing and just do the same tasks over and over
Grindiness seems to be a problem with most, if not all, open world games right now. I've been replaying Twilight Princess and Wind Waker lately and it struck me just how great it feels to always be making tangible progress. I'm really over open worlds. They don’t respect the player's time.
@@PretendingToBeAHuman Yeah I haven't enjoyed a good open world game in a really long time. They've become cumbersome and a little overwhelming and repetitive. I have more recently been getting into Metroid-Vania games.
My favorite Zelda game will probably always be Majora's Mask.
Zelda's only had 2 new worlds since 2010 and the rest has all been remakes and sequels. Newer fans don't realize it, but Zelda used to get an entirely new world every 2 years or so between the handheld and home console games. 90s and 00s repeated maybe 1 world (I never played Spirit Tracks and don't know if it's different from Phantom Hourglass or not). A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, Minish Cap, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass. That's an average of 5 a decade. We could include the multi-player games in 4 Swords and Triforce Heros to increase it to 11 (maybe 12, don't know if 4S and 4SA are the same world or not) and for post 2010. The fact that it's been like this is a stunning drop-off from Zelda history and it's no wonder TotK has become a mixed game. If there were more new game in between and not just remakes and spin-offs, then maybe the people burnt out on TotK wouldn't feel that way as much. It'd be refreshing to return to that world instead of feeling like a retread.
I'm excited for Zelda to go in a new direction again. I personally hate the BotW structure for these games and will never play a sequel in this style and will likely skip the next game if it does end up being a repeated mechanics, bigger world, new gimmicks version of TotK the way TotK was to BotW. Hopefully it'll get the QoL upgrades that TotK chose to ignore in lieu of going more ham on their physics system and slowing combat down to a cumbersome turn based crawl whenever you need to fuse. Seriously, why can't I just auto cook recipes once I make them once, at the very least, or stock up on fusion arrows so I don't need to re-fuse every single shot
I'd love more top-down or side-scrolling Zelda games. A Link Between Worlds is one of my favorite 😊😊😊
Zelda 2 is the only side scrolling Zelda I can think of
I LOVED link between worlds.
I think the next Zelda game is going to be a next gen game, but we might still see some remasters or remakes for older Zelda games for Switch. Maybe even a collection.
Wow! Did you think of that all by yourself?
@@GeorgeZimmermen Aye!
@@tipitiiew Nintendo will NEVER do a "next gen" game because they're still 3 or 4 generations behind everyone else on a technical level.
I don’t think the Zelda team will make the mistake of using the same overworld again. It might’ve won goty if it had a completely new map.
I don't know why some people think that was objectively a mistake at all. Like I get not enjoying that aspect, but I can't agree that it was an objective flaw with totk.
It wasn't a mistake at all. The majority of people enjoyed it.
Except a new map would mean a different land other than Hyrule.
I could definitely see the issues with reusing the map while playing, but I'm also glad they didn't just take the story and character of Hyrule and move it somewhere else. I'm invested in this world and I wanna see its people work together to defend their home.
They needed better dungeons, sky and underground and story that wasnt fully memory based
We are gonna continue getting new games entirely I would imagine. But seening a OOT Remake would be so good!
I agree
Why do you think a OOT hasn’t happened ?
Augh! Ohpt!
Stop with the oot bs, move on, this is getting as tedious as ff fans with final fantasy Vll
@@diegosotomiranda4107for real. Lmao. It needs to die. All I hear is, oot this oot that. Ffs!
A lot of open-world game have a main map to explore and also "missions" that are executed separately (usually triggered by an action). I think Zelda would benefit from this structure. It kinda already does with the shrines (which are separated form the main map and are loaded upon entering), but make it more for quests (main/side).
TOTK was a chore to finish. That’s pretty sad. It lacks magic. It lacks the feeling of ACTUALLY being on an adventure.
That's very vague criticism, but okay.
I fully disagree with that reasoning--but I do understand the sentiment.
Finally someone else agrees with me about lacking the magic meter from Zelda 2. It really needs to come back sometime.
Thanks for letting me know your a retard.
I'm on a strange position with TotK. Back when the game released I was on a very tight spot due to some close relative's medical bills so I ended up giving up to dispair and got it for PC (Even started playing like a week before release). Never got to finish the game although I was very close.
Last friday, I finally bought my copy with a pair of brand new Joy Con and decided to not transfer my save data from PC and I've been having a blast exploring everything from scratch. Starting the game all over but knowing what to do or where to find X thing is awesome.
Hell, I even got the Hylian Shield and Dusk bow before reaching the first temple lol.
I have been defending the "toonish" or cell shading styles of Zelda for years now, but I have to agree with you on this one. They have already milked those styles, I think next time they will have to go on a more realistic style, even if its just for variation
So TP style?
@@blues03 yeah, some variation like that would be cool.
I think it's time we had a realistic Young/Toon Link. It's about time to circle back.
It would be cool if we had some sort of fusion of different styles and level types from different games in the past but incorporate elements of the modern day into the game as well such as modern cities and things of that nature. It could all be explained by some sort of time travel phenomenon and you could switch from normal Hyrule to other dimensions le new York or something like that. Maybe throw link into an entirely new planet also that would be wild
I was actually thinking of The Legend Of Zelda set in the far future. But obviously it wouldn't be real cities 🌆
It would have to be a futuristic city or towns based in the Legend Of Zelda universe.
Honeslty I think botw and totk, really do the very first titles exploration pretty well. Just, immensely larger. Pretty huge jump over a. How long exactly reign?
Ocarina and Twilight Princess will always be my favorites with Wimdwaker soon following. As I said though the two have definitely defined what the very first game was going for.
I just want a Wind Waker 2 with pirate ships, under water exploration, bigger dungeons, bigger islands, customizable ships, masks, playing as the other races, etc.
I would personally love it if they did a complete remake of phantom hourglass and spirit tracks with the normal camera angle
I would like the next big Zelda game to be in a new Hyrule, have it be open world still just like BOTW and TOTK but no more Shrines, just do the traditional dungeons again. Also have the next Zelda game have the realistic art like TP had, and have Ganondorf wear his black armor again.
No more Shrines? Do people actually think through their takes? Why do you think those Shrines are there?
@@NuiYabuko The shrines just get so overwhelming, plus they just look exactly the same as each other. We don't need those shrines again and again. Twice was enough.
Personally it’s deeply concerning hearing what Aounuma thinks about older zelda. It makes me think the franchise is about to head into a horrible direction it won’t recover from
They literally just made one of the best zeldas ever made, the franchise is in a great spot, what are you even on?
Zelda is innovating, it's time to move on from glorified ocarina remakes. Like I love old zelda, but new zelda fuckin rules
i would love to see a companion come back. i know they were so annoying to some people but they gave depth to the characters and the story. let’s us see something that was missing from the last two, a constant dynamic between two characters throughout the story.
Oh God! Midna! I'll never forget you! 😢
the fact they implemented the sound from skyward sword companion but made nothing out of it kinda makes me sad
it's a meme that the comanion is annoying, but Navy was not bad, Tatl is is nice as well, Midna is top tier, the Zelda in spirit tracks is awesome.
I thought that's what we were going to get with the intial trailer with Zelda riding the...thing.
I wish they would goto a classic formula with the legend of zelda series. The repetitive breaking weapons, the boring craft system...the shrines...lets make different kingdoms...I could do without the stamina meter but I can even deal with that if the other things are fixed. The new games are ok, but I do hope they get rid of some of the boring stuff. I dont want to have to mod the game to make it better in my opinion. It just doesnt feel as strong as other titles in the franchise.
I hate how these games are seen as "open worlded unlike the rest of Zeldas", because, why is that even a mindset?
BoTW/ToTK forces you to gather abilities before allowing you to explore the plot-relevant-world.
The game puts you in a box, confines you to it, until you gather the developer's darlings, which aren't really necessary to defeat the game nor cleanse Hyrule.
There should be a remake of Oracle Of Ages & Oracle Of Seasons
Interesting stuff! So guys, when do we get to see the first glimpse of the next game?? The February 2024 direct might be too optimistic, but I am at least hoping for a good 10-15 seconds of a teaser either in the summer or autumn of 2024. Fingers crossed!
I also would like to see a hybrid version with the open world map like BOTW/TOTK - hell I’d even be cool with a trilogy.
But!!! - it would be perfect if link had to process to specific new lands outside of hyrule - almost like windwaker sailing theme - and each country/island had its own map and quests and you had to beat the boss of each place before moving onwards to the next nation/island etc
Am I excited? Heck yeah!! But the thing is what im worried about is the timeline. I dont really pay attention to it, but I got curious to see what part of the timeline will it be in, or maybe, just maybe which is like a 1% chance of happening, there will be another time split
Another fresh take sounds awesome asf. Especially considering them having gotten more experience using not only the engine to create these masterpieces, but also w open Worlds. I can only fuxking imagine what's coming next, oh man.
I love Totk. By far the best game that was released this year in my personal opinion and I can't wait for Master Mode!
That being said, I would love to see a more traditional Zelda game that most of us are used to. I'm excited for the next Zelda game and I'll gladly wait another 7 years if I have to.
There isn't going to be a master mode...
@@Sir_AdamSo sad. I understand not having a bunch of DLC but I would love to fuse a Golden Lynel saber horn!!
@@billhanscomb1119 Same. I wanted it for more difficulty as I found the game to be pretty easy.
I need a #moviequality #zelda also with #revolutionary #gameplay by code possibilities 2025 or 2026. It needs to look so visually impressive with no detail overlooked that when i look at it im stress free or amazed or entertained and feel like im experiencing something new. When it cones to playing it... i want a game... and a game is more then walking from point a tonpoint z and fighting enemies. I need something revolutionary that makes everyone else in the industry reexamine how limites their imaginations used to be.
Great video man👍
I think they could have squeezed out a third and made it a time jump game like OOT. But creatively if they feel like they have nothing left to do a third then that is probably for the best.
My idea for the new game is a pre-game starter where Link can go around the open world where there are no monsters. There will be some areas that Link won't be able to go to or won't be available for him until the main story starts where the villain, which I want to see someone new is trying to resurrect an old villain, weather it be the traditional Ganondorf or someone like Vaati. With that said, before the main story starts there can be side quests for Link to do. When the main story starts other side quests can come into play. There will be dungeons with traditional weapons used for the dungeons and there will be items to get to move heavy objects or climb walls. No more stamina. I am not sure how I want extra hearts to fit in, weather it will be a puzzle, shrines, or both. I don't think that shrines should come up since we had them twice but something similar to that. I want more villains that are puzzled based like the main villains of TotK where instead of just hack and slash, you have to do something like break their ice around them which was cool when they brought back traditional villains for the four regions. I want to see more of what we saw in the beginning of the Lightning Temple with the traditional aspects of a dungeon. I want Dungeon Keys and Big Keys back. I would like Zelda to accompany us this time.
We just want skyward sword type of art. More real looking. With ocarina of time style of dungeons and the free roam of totk. That would be the perfect Zelda game for me
I would love to see a zelda with more hard-core focus challenging with dungeons in a fully open world kinda in the way of botw totk but weapons that don't break and are based on lvl grinding through challenging dungeons or special side quests mayb like how we had to peice together the bigoran sword. But more of a challenge then a scavenger hunt. I'd like to see the lttp style maps 🎉
I always thought TOTK would’ve been cool if you had to map out the world, meaning it draws attention to differences between BOTW and TOTK hyrule and skyrule and lorule specifically. I really think with the disappearance of the Sheika slate they could’ve done more, but then we got the sheika switch.
Personally I think it would be cool if they do a soul calibour type of combat game with different monsters and characters from the saga, maybe with a small campaign where you explore a castle and fight the different characters
I miss dungeons. I wish they would do something more like a link to the past mixed with mixed with temple of time , and Tears of the kingdom. This way you would get past future and present allowing them to change up the landscape based on time. The game would be enormous this way much like Chronotrigger, but a richer experience.
Hey guess what, there's dungeons in totk, they were there is botw also.
Did you not notice? Should I get you some glasses?
I want movie quality zelda that makes the #unrealengine remakes look outdated for the new #nintendoconsole #NintendoNexus. I want to see a world that plays like a game with high gameplay details and intricte gameplay mechanics everywhere that feels like your playing multiple games in one game and theres alot going on. A return of dungeouns to explore that make take 15 minutes while others might take hours to complete. Tiny caves to enter for shelter or manuver small platforming or enemy fighting. It needs ti be above #movie quality and the #gameplay needs to have point building system and find other smartdesign / creative reasons and uses for those points... you might spend points as currency somewhere or want to save them for entering tour name or a ladder system and put your screenname or intoals in it. Who knows. When traveling the world i want to come across trees that might be way larger in aspect ratio to the character as oppossed to tok they all seem rather small and with a new system can add better multiplicity which will bring better visuals and gameplay possibilities.
Dungeons. Swamp area. LOST FORRES... I WANT IT ALL. I want to be able to see my own reflection in li ks shield... anyone k ow how that can be done? Caise it needs to be done.
Based on TOTK, new Zelda should be Time Travel. 7 time zones, hang back with Rauru, maybe a future with a big city, some dungeons, no depths, and put them all together to fix Hyrule. Remove the building of objects but keep Ultrafist.
I want to go beyond the borders of BotW/TotK Hyrule. What’s on the other side of the chasm? What happens if Link sails beyond the horizon to the south or to the east?
I want this too. I want a game in Hyrule AND beyond. You never really leave one continent in any Zelda game. At most, you travel to some alternate dimension within it. I would love the experience of an adventure in kingdoms beyond Hyrule's borders. TOTK teases this with characters who come from outside Hyrule.
Great video and nice getting some Zelda news! I agree with everything you say here (except for the realistic art style) 😉A reset is badly needed. Maybe "Toon Link fans" will get some in between 2D Zeldas that are more cartoony or with some other far out art styles. Hopefully they will nudge the formula back a bit towards the old school Zelda games while keeping open world with real dungeons and some music playing element etc. in the mainline games. That seems to be the thing fans are asking for the most when browsing comments too.
Several Randomizers have proven that you can infact keep the traditional Zelda gameplay in tact along with some of the story, and STILL have the open world, the randomizers that come to mind are:
Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and Wind Waker, as well as both Oracles Games.
Id like another remake sometime soon, personally. The game i want to see remade most is Link to the Past.
I would like an OOT Remake on Switch.
I want oracles remakes on switch. So tired of OoT, TP, and WW.
My line of thinking at the moment is that I'd kinda like to see them try an approach where it'd be handled like multiple games worth of story in the same world. I mean, take the idea of the "regional phenomena" quest in TotK but massively expand on it. Suppose that in the scope of the connective central storyline Ganon's forces are organized under the banners of several generals. (Could bring back old characters like Onox, Veran, Vaati, King Bulblin, etc. Or they could invent some new ones. Either way, these would be relatively smart villains with their own methods and motivations instead of just some random monsters. Each would have their own reason for playing along with Ganon's orders.) So one regional story is about Vaati leading an army of Wizzrobes and Vire in a war against the Rito, maybe. And another regional story is about Onox leading an army of Armos and Darknuts in a war against the Goron, perhaps. Whoever the villains are and whatever type of enemies make up the primary forces of each villain's individual army (there can be other types mixed in but it'd be super important for making each part of the world feel distinct that it's not just Bokoblins making up the overwhelming majority of all the enemies everywhere like both BotW and TotK did), each regional story would go linearly through many separate local enemy strongholds (at least a few of which could be comparable to classic dungeons and several more could be mini-dungeons) occasionally clashing with the general along the way until reaching a final showdown (like with TP's King Bulblin). The player could have freedom in the open world to jump back and forth between different stories as they please. Or the player could binge each separate story all the way through before moving onto the next one.
The connective central storyline weaving in between those individual stories could be nonlinear like BotW and TotK. Maybe it guides the player to visit an area in each region that's relevant to the local story but not actually visited as part of the local story. Weakening Ganon directly in some way with those efforts. (Maybe these are altars set up by Twinrova to siphon some sort of energy from the chaos caused by the generals similar to what the Twinrova in the Oracles games did for a Ganon resurrection ritual?) The regional stories that you complete (or don't complete) affect what type of support Ganon receives from his generals and their forces, but the objectives more directly connected to the central storyline could have an effect on the abilities of Ganon himself.
We'll probably get nothing like that, but that's where I think they need to take it.
So like an open world dragon quest 9
@@pronounhoarder_8632 How is that franchise in terms of just jumping into it at any game at random? Same ability to stand alone as Final Fantasy games? Or are they more connected than that? I played the original when it was called Dragon Warrior on NES when I was a kid, and then the first time I heard that it had ever gotten any sequels they were already at something like Dragon Quest 6 or 7 or so. Whichever one would've had a Gamecube release. I've never picked up any of the sequels.
I suppose there are a number of games that the idea could be compared to in some way, though. Wasn't at least one of the Star Ocean games built around hopping between different main characters who were involved in different sides of a bigger story? (I think the one from that series that I played was the one released on... PS1?) And more recently there are the Octopath Traveler games with a similar type of concept. I wasn't thinking the separate characters angle with what I wrote, but that could be the next step for Zelda games after all this buildup they've been going through with the transformation masks in MM, the freedom fighters in TP, the Knight Academy students in SS, the Champions in BotW, and the Sages in TotK.
Why can't the starting plateau/island shrines be extended and more like the classic dungeons. That allows the old classic find the macguffing half way through then use the macguffin to finish the mini dungeon. Once you get all the abilities open up the world and have another few classic dungeons with optional macguffins that you dont need to finish the game but are useful. I'd find additional special items that are optional that may operate like the master sword does significantly more useful than the sages following me about and would mean classic dungeons in the new formula. It wouldnt be far off young and old link from OOT or light and dark world in a link to the past.
They need to do way better or I'll just stick to traditional. More dungeons themed ones with epic battles like ocarina of time. More linear parts as well with better story. They can keep open world just have linear parts in the game as well. If not they will lose many fans as over half voted in igns poll want traditional zelda back!!
I love a Young Link Zelda game with cooking and breakable weapons. Also the max damage an enemy can deal is 2 hearts. The enemies that deal 2 hearts of damage are Lynels, Guardian Lasers, and moblins that are equipped with a metal sword instead of a stick.
Totk was my first Zelda game. I loved it, dropped so many hours but at a certain point nothing challengex or surprised me and the chests got so dull.
BoTW has a world that sprawls out from its center, similar to ALTTP. In the next game, I hope the map starts from Point A and the end game leads to Point B, similar to Elden Ring’s world design. I believe this change in world design would facilitate creating better progression and dungeons.
I'd like to see a good story from zelda. They always had the wow element of world building, but they've opened the door to bigger and better story telling techniques with botw and totk. While other games have had decent stories or attempted to explain the events and cyclic rebirths and amnesias... they've never had a hard set storyboarding technique to attach you to the characters to the degree other games do. Where other games hold you with story and graphics zelda holds you with exploration and world building. I think it would benefit from deeper level storytelling. people this day and age are lore lovers. make it happen kind of thing yk
I basically assumed they would change it up next time, but given N's history of building off of the previous project, I imagine some things will be used to inspire whatever's next.
As long as they don't make it cyberpunk, I trust the team to continue doing great things with this franchise. Though, to be fair, I never expected to drive a monster truck or fly biplanes through Hyrule, and couldn't imagine it working, yet here it is.
Tears is the game that finally made me put LttP as second, and I still haven't finished it. I only got my Switch last Christmas and ran through BotW in less than five months to start this one.
So on the point of BotW having more impact, it also had five years of history, TotK is only just over 6 months old and I'd bet the amount of content created for it already rivals that of BotW, right?
As far as a fresh take on the series, and bringing in new fans that is true. But from a gameplay perspective, TotK gave so much freedom even above the previous, it's almost in another genre.
Also, I'm curious what direction they will take next considering these two games have gone to such great lengths to rope in plotlines, characters, places, and items from previous titles. I think they either revisit a previous story (Adventure of Link pleeeeeeeeze) or go in a totally unexpected direction like Twilight Princess did.
Imagine a game with no Broken weapons \o/ WOW
9:46 let's go wind waker let's gooooo
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I want the same for the new Zelda in 5-7 years, but I'd want a smaller extension of TOTK in 2-3 years cause I hate waiting. Like more towns to explore more Shrines but without the massive consequences.
What happened to the Bokoblins on floating platforms that I saw in the promotional releases? Never seen any on floating platforms yet 🤔
I just want instruments and that kind of wonder it brought with it in the fantasy back.
it'll be mixed reality/vr next I bet. how else can you take it forward realistically?
Love to see linear Zelda games again
I prefer the handful of weapons and gear in previous games rather than all these pick up and toss out items. I don't enjoy stats and leveling mechanics as such as they have been lately. I prefer the traditional method. Climbing could be limited a lot. All this stuff is just exhausting. I never finished BotW. And didn't bother with TotK. I just watched story recaps online.I didn't find it enjoyable beating on lionels for minutes on end.
I would like to see something from the Minish world return. The small world within the large world was fun
My personal dream game is a link to the past but with botw/totk graphics. It would obviously be a small game, maybe they could make a few remakes like that. Link between worlds. Maybe you could even flip back and forth at any time during the game to the original top down zelda game. Sure they could absolutely add a ton to it, or at the very least make a linear game, with dungeons and the specific weapons like the old style zelda games but with the switches graphics and hardware. I don't even care if its just a little dessert while they work on something none of us can even fathom...cuz i cant imagine it'd be to hard to remake old zelda games with the new graphics (for Nintendo) my dream would literally come true lol
I hope they would do at least an open world sea adventure like windvaker in Botw and Totk style, please!🙏
I think spirit orbs are much better than heart pieces. The only reason to want heart pieces again is for nostalgia. They could fix the repetitiveness of getting them by allowing them to be found outside of shrines from sidequests and mini-games.
I saw a video where a youtuber said he wants the next Zelda to have heart pieces, a musical instrument, a companion (Navi, Red Lion, Midna, Fi), item-gatekeeping, Hookshot, no expendable weapons, and linear gameplay for the sake of story. While we have had enough of the BotW formula, I don't think we should return to the exact same thing we had prior.
I personally would like a change to the breakble weapons formula where the weapons are like the armor and can't be broken but can be upgraded permanently with parts as you progress.
If Nintendo does not want to revisit the OoT formula again for 3D titles they could maybe make new 2D games that use that formula to help satisfy those of us that want to play linear Zelda in addition to open world.
I really hope the next one has a larger focus on the narrative (like Twilight or Skyward). I enjoy the gameplay but the story for these two games weren't on the same level as my favorite storys in zelda games. Excited to see what comes next regardless
Zelda Wind waker as well considering that games final climax narrative has the best build up out of the series as a final build up
All I ask it the Great Fairy theme back as File Select theme.
I still have so many questions.
I will be sad to see the world and style of botw go (and sad that we won’t get a red game to complete the triforce, guess I’ll just have to count HWAoC), but I really wouldn’t mind a game that is a bit more structured and linear. The thing with letting players tackle dungeons and shrines in whatever order they want means you can’t establish any sort of puzzle progression, where a puzzle you encounter later is a more complex and difficult version of a puzzle you solved earlier and since you solved that earlier puzzle you can understand how to solve this more complicated version. And I freaking love that kind of thing. Totk had it a liiiitle bit with the shrines near the Rito and Zora dungeons introducing the unique mechanics of reaching those dungeons (though the Zora one does it way better, I didn’t really need a tutorial shrine to understand trampolines but thanks, Zelda Team). But overall they can really only do this within a single shrine and with most of the shrines being so short the opportunities are pretty limited. Botw actually did the intra-shrine puzzle progression a bit better, totk just has too many shrines for most of them to be longer than a single puzzle. Also, since we’re definitely not using motion controls anymore, can we go back to left-handed Link?
I'd argue the change of art style was more dependent on the hardware and the vision more than "needing" to change Zelda
Change 150+ shrines to 15 unique, mid-size, traditional dungeons each with a cool boss and unique reward. Do whatever you want with everything else....you have now made every "traditional" fan happy.
And why do you think those Shrines exist? And why do you think there aren't all too many unique rewards?
@@NuiYabuko There are 150 of them and they all have the exact same reward....what are you smoking dude?
@@user-ju8hg9iq8hDon’t give this dude the time of day. He runs around Nintendo channels, replies to comments with brainless takes, and leaves without responding because he’s just trying to trigger people.
I feel like I want the exact same thing everyone else is saying.
We need a Zelda game not with a billion shrines but dungeons and mini dungeons.
Have the world be open but then you get to complete any temples/dungeons in almost any order would be cool. Also you can head to the boss at the start if you like but it cannot be a go to these 4 places and switch these 5 switches then fight a boss.
(Also I’d love a truly realistic Zelda game but I know that will never happen)
I think it would be interesting to see a Hyrule set in the very distant future
I miss unique items, I miss fully fleshed out towns, I miss dungeons that had identity. Shines were a waste of good dungeon puzzles.
This is the take, and as a long time Zelda fan, I feel excited in all the same ways.
Have the same map as botw and totk but give us a normal castle and a boat with many new islands and castles to explore!!
A half openworld half linear design would be really cool
Its a really good time to be a Zelda fan. Lots to look forward to with the switch 2! The hardest part is waiting 5 years.. haha. Great video!
I'm hoping the Descendants of the Zonai Gods. They are really cool and it's a new race!
I already said on another channel, next zelda goes underwater
I honestly couldn't agree more! I would also like a remake of both wind waker and ocarina of time. But i would love all the things you've mentioned for the next new Zelda game. I just really hope they don't do any of the stupid controls from skyward sword or any funky gimmicks like that..
I agree with the more realistic artwork, traditional long dungeons
I didn’t vibe with totk at all and I loved botw. It just felt like a been there done that retread after botw and I’m ready to go back to a traditional Zelda again. I hated the Minecraft aspect, the dungeons just weren’t what we wanted and the sky islands were meh and the underground was awful. The gameplay loop bored me to death. My most anticipated game of the year too
I love the idea of an old link still being around next time that ganon shows up (not having died and reincarnated) and having to go at it again. The only problem with that is, it's also technically gotta be a direct sequel to another game. And I'm pretty sure that kids would hate playing as an old man, and that it'd turn the reincarnation cycle on its head and cause huge issues, and a huge part of the community would absolutely hate it
I miss the style of Windwaker and Twilight Princess. I just want to play a simple kids game...but now I need a freaking PhD to play these games...and why does a controller have 400,000 buttons? I just want to run, swing my sword and shoot my bow & arrow.
I agree with your wishes on the next Zelda, realism would be nice. Also, the absurdity of consumable weapons, shields, bows, etc. has got to go. There is a romance to weaponry and the fact that a sword, the Master Sword especially, can’t even survive one fight is just ridiculous and ruins that romance. It very nearly ruins BOTW and TOTK for me.
I really miss the linear structure what they had in wind waker Twilight princess and skyward sword I missed the companionship of a partner I really hope they go back to that I miss it a lot
I think we're long overdue for another Top down Zelda game. I love the 3D games and especially the open world games, but there's always been a special place in my heart for Top Down Zelda and I really miss it. The last big Top Down game was ALBW since Link's Awakening is a remake.
Personally I’d like it to go back to majoras mask, more so with its horror routes. Maybe they can touch up on the fierce deity being the next villain.
What Nintendo should really do is A Totk Sequel to where Link And Zelda Discover Time Travel 100 years ago to change the events before the kingdom was devastated like they battle Ganondorf deep below Hyrule Castle before he started to destroy everything not making this based on AOC cause it's a different timeline
Personally, i am fine if stay in one version of Hyrule forever or switch it up. Either way you add to the world building mythos of the characters and setting which is the reason i am here for this series. As long as still matches the lore well enough. There are minor plot issues of how the different zelda's connect but they connect well enough on the timeline. The vague year count does a lot of heavy lifting. My personal theory is after a long enough time the Hylians, and other races literally mass migrate inbetween games and are very unoriginal. Every desert gets named Gerudo Desert, big volcano=death mountain, big Lake=Lake Hylia, etc. Names of the past survive but thier context and location gets shuffled
Zelda 3D Fighting game in the vain of Soul Calibur with multiple characters and costumes spanning the entire franchise. Just imagine playing Skull kid vs Midna, Urbosa vs Pig Gannon, Toon Link vs Zant, Ravalie vs Groose, Skyward Sword Princess Zelda vs Mipha etc
Ya know…and maybe because Wind Waker is my favorite and I absolutely adore how TOTK looks (and by extension BOTW) I’m not…really pressed to have a realistic looking Zelda. Something about going for realism usually ends up being counterproductive about 10 or 15 years down the line when it ends up being outdated by newer hardware. Now. I will admit Twilight Princess’ visuals have stood the test, but…then you have some character models that end up looking silly as hell. Which, I don’t mind but it doesn’t exactly convey realism. I’d prefer my Zelda games stylized. A very unique look. It doesn’t need…bright & colorful visuals per se, but I want it to look unique. Something timeless. I don’t need Zelda to look like Elden Ring for it to be mature and complex to me.
They should do Zelda similar to Xenoblade as far as the world goes where it is linear but you have large sprawling explorable areas so it doesn’t feel really linear. In a sense OoT is kind of like that but on a much smaller scale
Next Zelda: old Link in a dystopian future where mecha Ganon took over and sealed Link. Kinda medival sci-fi theme with heavy Sheik tech (cool world like in Kirby Planet Robobot). My want.
What's the obsession with "old Link"?
I loved tears of the kingdom so far its awesome. Now for the next up coming games for legend of Zelda let's bring some past games to the switch. I want to see wind waker and twilight princess both hd on the switch we waited a long time for these games to come out so hopefully we get wind waker and twilight princess on the switch pretty soon it will be much harder to get the wiiu and the games so fingers crossed for these games to come out on the switch. Now as for ocarina of time and majorias mask they also need to be on the switch too along with the hd touch that will be really cool the only thing I would change for ocarina of time to mark the maps to mark the locations of the golden skullchlas that's goes for twilight princess to mark the locations for the poes and they will stay marked when link becomes an adult and as a kid for the poes just to back track after you can transform into a wolf of your free will I got that idea from breath of the wild and tears of kingdom to mark the locations of the shrines it helped me alot so with that ability to mark the maps of ocarina of time and twilight princess that will be helpful. Also it won't not hurt to bring minish cap and the oracle games to give them the hd touch too along with phantom hourglass and spirit tracks too.