Is the Peavey Red Stripe Bandit still the King? - Red Stripe (old) vs Grey Stripe (new)
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- In this video I am comparing the new Peavey Bandit 112 versus the older Red Stripe Peavey Bandit 112. Both amplifiers have their pros and cons and I give them a full test including how loud they are via a professional dB meter.
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I put up some polls in the cards of the videos if you wish to vote on which one you like better or let me know in the comments! Is the Red Stripe still the king? I let you know what I think at the end too 😃
intheblues man the red stripe was a clear winner on volume.
intheblues QUESTION: what is the difference in the red stripes that have the white small triangle at the front bottom center? I noticed some redstripes don’t have that?
I saw one for sale that has the triangle and they said it has a blue shefield speaker. Good speaker?
Thanks!
After buying the Red-stripe today for about £100, I was really delighted to see how great this amplifier actually is in comparison to all the digital/modelling amplifiers from Line 6, Marshall, Blackstar and Boss (many of which I have owned and sold). I cant believe this ancient technology still beats up the modern competition! Cheers Shane for all your great honest reviews , as they have saved me time and money! :)
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I' m peavey addicted! I have a Red stirpe, Grey, envoy, solo series, back stage and classic 30..bandit forever!
I thought I was bad. I have a classic 30 and a valve king.
Im a tube snob! But The Red stripe is a rockin amp!! And this past year The Red stripe bandit is what i use live now as my main gig amp. love the tone i get from it, I leave the marshalls and my other great tube amps home for recording, thanks for this video!
Hi Shane - poised to pickup a Red Stripe made in the usa tomorrow for 75 euro. Yay finally a great deal ! Leaves me enough money to swap the stock speaker if at all necessary. Thanks for all your tips. Keep up the good work.
A good friend of mine was the manager at a local pawn shop. I didn't know much about different amp brands, but I would try every 10" and 12" speaker amp that came through. I started out playing humbuckers through them because of all the florescent lights, but then I discovered single coils brought out differences more easily. Then as I started weeding out brands and models I didn't like, I started taking the better ones home to compare. This is getting too long, or I'd provide a list of better amps. Suffice it to say that one of the amps that stayed, and a big surprise, was the PV Redline Bandit 112! Inexpensive awesomeness!
Fantastic video Shane! I prefer the red stripe in all cases. Seems it's a tad warmer and creamier overall. I have almost pulled the trigger several times on a red stripe but I'm waiting for a super sweet deal, not just a deal.
In my quest for a ss amp, I stumbled across and just purchased a nearly mint, Peavey Transformer 212 red stripe (with stock Blue Marvel speakers) and never used foot controller. I absolutely love it! I love the Peavey transtube stuff.
That red stripe in this video is the first phase of being made in China (2004-2005/blocked logo). afterward (2005-present), all the China made Bandit that is on the left of this video, has T-Dynamic switch instead of POT. I have the Red Stripe Made in USA (2000-2004/blocked logo). A killer amp that every metal player should have one. I replaced the Sheffield 1230 speaker with a Black Shadow Celestion 90w, from Mesa Boogie amp. It can stand against Marshall stack 4x12 and in a full loud band jam. IT is super loud and powerful.
Had my Bandit (the model before the red stripe) for nearly two decades. Still play it and love it.
Great video Shane. To my ear the Grey Stripe is dark / muddy sounding. Like there's a wet blanket over it. Red Strip for me mate. Cheers!!
I had to leave (sell) my beloved Classic 30 in Aus when I moved back to the UK in 2018..way too heavy to ship over. I've missed that tone.. Based on your many, many reviews of the Red Stripe I had been looking for one here.. I finally managed to get one yesterday.. had a choice between the grey and red too.. Red won.
Hope you are well Shane and thanks for all you do.
Great shoot out Shane! Thanks!!
Thanks man!
The Red Stripe Bandit, in my opinion, is overall a better amp than it’s modern equivalent. The overdrive tones just makes the amp sound better. Definitely an amp I will keep an eye on!!!! Really enjoy there comparison videos because they really help in making the best decision on gear. Nothing beats playing it live, of course, but it’s a first step in the decision process. Thanks again Shane!!! Cheers!!!🎸🎸🎸🎸🤙🏾🤙🏾
I know it's been a year sibce you commented man. But, maybe you'll see this comment. I had a Red Stripe 15+ years ago while in a band. The other guitar player had a huge Peavey 5150 Tube Amp 212 and my little Red Stripe wasn't intimidated at all bro! After the band split, I got into a financial tight spot. Of course sold my Red Stripe. One of the biggest sales regrets of my life, and I sold my 1967 Cherry Mustang! I have a Peavey 6505+ Combo Tube Amp now. I can't get anywhere near the tone I had. If you have an opportunity to buy a Red Stripe, do it...I know I will.
Peace
The peavey transtube amps are all great. I have an old Bandit 65 (louuuuud!) and I just got a new lil Peavey Rage and boy what a nice little amp. New or used, cant go wrong man!
I have the original trans tube bandit ( silver stripe ), red stripe rocks big time, the advantage of the gray stripe is the footswitch able booste & direct out on the back, a lot of places where I gig doesn't want it loud !!! Great video Shane !!!
Thanks Dave!
Great vid Shane. I think it’s hard to say which is best. They sound good, but different. Now, If you guys has plans for update the speaker, hear my Peavey story: I have a Peavey Studio Pro 112 (made in us) it had a Eminence oem speaker that I wanted to update. Got a swamp thang. But I wasn’t pleased. Nothing wrong with the speaker, but it was to “big” for my 65 watt amp. Lot’s of noise and interferences on low volume. I play in a apartment, so I can’t play to loud. So I changed it to a Eminence Legend 1258 75w. Perfect. So what I’m trying to say is, it’s a good idea to match speaker and amp for the best result.
Both sound fine but different. I think I would go for the newer model if only for the foot switch. I think the small differences could be taken care of with a little EQ or with an EQ pedal.
I just bought my friend a 112 bandit redline sounds great and for $90 i cant complain
I used one of the red stripes at the practice space I used to go to and wow. The tone was immense. Real punch in the face
I have an envoy 110 red stripe and a bandit 112 red stripe. I like both very much. Great cleans. Nice drive channels. Reliable. Loud enough for any type of environment.
Nice comparison Shane. I kinda liked both Amps. Some sounds of each were great. If my back could take it I’d A/B them....LOL!! I remember the sound of your Red Stripe with the Texas Heat in it and just Loved that sound!! Please keep up the Good Work!!
They’re both so good just go for which you like the look of most in my opinion
I have owned all 3 transtube bandit and the best was the silver stripe. Better clean, great break up, better reverb, better speaker...
You should have played some White Stripes in this contest of the grey stripe vs he red stripe Bandits
Great video.
Thanks for comparison. I am surprised, how much better is red stripe version.
You need to get ahold of an 80's Bandit Solo Series 65. You'll love it. I think its better than the Red Stripe.
Put a 15 inch speaker from a vintage silver face Fender in my old silver stripe 112, sounds absolutly unbelievable. Makes the origonal 12 inch Sheffield sound like a squeaky little toy. Might do a comparison video one day.
I really liked the red strip better. Specially on the dist channel. Surprised how much louder it was too.
Good comparison. On clean, the grey stripe sounded warmer and the SPL looked a bit louder (hitting 108 as opposed to 106). Dirty the red stripe was definitely louder with a bit more presence.
Either one is good enough, that I'd say you should get whichever you find for cheaper. You can always run a pedal you like into it in a clean setting, if you don't like the built-in drive sound.
I am kind of wondering if any of the tonal warmth that makes the red stripe sound better comes from it being well worn in, or if it is superior circuitry. Virtually impossible to test for when dealing with older vs. newer. Sound is sound though so if 20 years of cigarette smoke, sweat and spilled beer makes an amp sound sweet then we have to recheck the grey stripe after 20 years of gigging. Great video and I would love to hear an AB of the grey strip with the stock speaker and then the Texas Heat.
Couple of thoughts - Maybe the Modern Bandit should have been tested with the boost enabled. Perhaps that's the default sound... Also, you have to take into account the Blue Marvel vs the Sheffield. Testing both with the Texas Heat would be great. Comparing a Bandit to a Katana would be tough, considering all the options available on the Katana.
Awesome buddy.
The speaker in that Red Stripe is gonna have way more mileage on it. That's got to make it harder to compare.
It’s easy to make a Humbucker guitar sound good on most amps. The test is to see how a solid state reacts to single coils.
I had a solo series 65 way back that was a killer little. work horse of an amp. wish I still had it. Miss muh little Bandit…..
I've used both and I currently have a red stripe , one of the reasons I prefer it is you can tell what the know settings are on a dark ish stage its difficult with the chrome ones
I liked the grey stripe based on this test. Sounded a little more Vox like to me - a little less bass heavy and twangier. Disclaimer.... I had a red stripe until fairly recently and loved it.
that was tough. I listened back 2-3 times on somedecent headphones (Sennheiser HD569) I preferred the Red Stripe in all the cases. It had a fuller,creamier, blendier, richier,smoothier tone (I'm just making up words). But seriously it did sound better. When are they releasing a Pink Stripe model? :) take care!
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I love the bandit. But the Teal Face with the scorpion is still my top choice over either of these ones.
hi there,great review,.....but the best transt amp they ever made was the XXL head.......why did they ever stop making it........through a good 4-12, it sounds almost like a bogner, ...keep up the playin shane ! GRTZ from belgium !
AH,,, lol perfect timing... You must have done this one for me Shane. Thanks. 1/2 way through.... I'm hearing more distinct notes on the Grey Stripe. Both are very nice OK, finally after all these times of asking you if you still like the Peavey Red Strip Bandit.... I have ordered a used Peavey Bandit Red Stripe. I have a Blue Marvel from a Peavey 1x12 cabinet. I really like them. Might change it out for a Texas heat. we'll see when it gets here. Cost $159.00 $50.00 shipping and tax. Delivered from Guitar Center used at $202.00 US. I'm good with that. Looked on Reverb, nothing available there under $300.00.
Is that a Studio Pro 112 Red stripe next to that Red Stripe Bandit?
I blew something in my Red Stripe Studio Pro, and found a Red stripe Bandit few days later.
Man, I love how I still have that same sound, just a tad louder!
Great comparison, Red Stripe all the way for me!
There wasn't a great deal of difference. I thought Grey clean was a bit nicer, bit more sparkle. OD sounds virtually identical! Red stripe still killed it in the volume stakes!
Hmmm....tough to pick a “better” one. They’re just a little different. Through headphones, played clean, the gray stripe sounded a little more bright or sensitive(?) and the red stripe is warmer and even(?). Cranked, the red stripe sounded like it had a little shot of NOS where as the gray stripe had the breakup, but slightly less ‘umph’. Can’t really go wrong either way since even though you do an amazing job at it, it’s practically impossible to repeat how hard you’re hitting the strings and even how close you are to the pickups, etc. y’know? Love Peavey for the value they are!! 🎸👍🏻✌🏻
Red stripe Bandit is one of my favorite solid state amps ever. It sounds great, and is built like a tank.
HAD the new one.. lost it in a dumb trade deal I made a year or so back... Just got a USA made Red Stripe yesterday, with the 2 button foot pedal to replace it. .. and yes, it's AWESOME! LOL!
I scored a Red Stripe in mint condition for $60!! Love that amp! 👍
I bought $400 its expensive here
You're the Bandit!
Damn i paid $90 needs a deep clean but its a Christmas gift for a friend 😂 i bet he will love it
Very close call, I have to give the edge to the Red stripe, it just has a better tone, seemed to be very responsive to pick attack, it’s more dynamic in over all performance
I think the "Modern" amp sounds compressed. I think swapping out the speaker might be a great idea.
I think that both amps had some cool sounds. It was interesting that the Red Stripe was kicking out about 6db more at the top. Looked like it topped out at around 106-107, and any further increase in gain/volume just compressed it. The Red Stripe was hitting 112 or a bit more, which is metal show loud. With a speaker replacement, max volume could change a fair bit, as would the tonal qualities. Overall, way better than most people believe solid state amps typically sound.
i have the Peavey bandit 112 1990's model teal stripe, it is the transtube, but also, its the special 112, so it has double the power
of the 80watt, bandit? 160watts, and they are brilliant amps, some like to put the peavey amps, down?
but as far as im concerned, one of the best ever made? i gigged with the same model for 15yrs, before selling it and going to guitar thru the PA system? but got another, was so lucky to find one in great condition, 20yrs old, and sounds just as great as ever.
i have the new bandit a mt 2 metalzone and my gibson les paul studio and it sounds so fucking good such good metal and hardrock tone
Thanks for the comparison Shane. The Red stripe was noticeably superior even over CZcams. It just has a more natural tone to it, to my ears. I'm listening through a Dolby system in Stereo, with all my equalization neutralized out so I'm just getting your mix and tone. Just for what its worth, the Grey stripe sounds fine, just not as natural as the Red stripe. Is it possible that the components of the Red stripe are more "Burned" in since its seen more use? I'm assuming the Grey stripe is or/nearly brand new. My experience has been that I usually prefer my amps to be played for many hours before they have a true settled tone. Mainly I suppose from flexing the speaker cone. I don't just blast radio or recordings like a friend of mine, I just play the hell out of them at minimum 75% volume and drive it hard. I have on more than one occasion bought a used amp from musicians I know just to get one that's already been "Exercised" to a fully seasoned level. Yes I'm probably crazy but if I get the sound I want from an amp it stays in the collection forever. Especially since I can do my own electronic repairs. Hate replacing tubes though, the wrong tubes can really destroy tone and balance of power. One good reason to find a tone friendly solid state, Peavey does excellent solid state units. Again this was a very excellent comparison of both, just love that Red stripe, but I like the replacement speaker you've had in it for a while. That one has a sweeter tone for my ear. Have a great day Shane, stay safe.
The Red Stripe Bandit sounds better because it has a different speaker. Put a Texas Heat speaker in the new Bandit, and I guarantee you'll love the sound.
I had the teal stripe one. Good but always was in the repair shop
I wonder how much impact does the speaker have in this comparison. It would be great if we could compare both with the same speakers. I have been using a silver knob Peavey Bandit for 3 years now and I really like the amp. The Blue Marvel itself isn't bad but I feel that "harsh bright and muddy bass" have a lot to do with it (the most common critics on this amp).
I attended a forum gtg jam where there were plenty of high dollar gear: USA guitars, boutique amps, & vintage amps. One guy more than held his own with a $275.00 FrankenTele, and a $300.00 Peavey Bandit 112 MIC "grey stripe / Gen 3." No pedals, amp was stock.
Hi! Thanks for your videos, big fan here in Spain. Do you know whether the grey and red stripe Peavey Envoys differ sonically as these two? Best regards.
The red strip definitely has a little more highs on the vintage clean (the grey sounds a bit muddy - not sure if you can EQ that out). At gig volumes they don't sound too dissimilar tone-wise (the dB meter says different). I wouldn't mind seeing the grey with that eminence speaker in it though maybe compare it with the vypyrs if you can get hold of one.
What is the ground switch on the back of the red stripe? I notice I've been getting a hum lately. Is this related somehow?
The newer Bandit is not bad, but I have to go with the Red Stripe. I have three Bandits: Solo Series, Bandit 65, and the Silver Stripe First Generation TransTube Bandit. The Silver Stripe reminds me of my first guitar amp, a Rage 158 that I saved money to buy when I was in high school.
For the style music ylur playing, red stripe hands down. Grey stripe def is a modern heavier thicker sound. Just my .02! That red stripe is the best little amp i ever owned.
in direct comparison, imho, the Red Stripe wins. But the Grey Stripe is close enough if you can`t get hold of an old one.
P.S. please try the Texas speakers into the modern "grey" stripe one for a different perspective video.
T-Dynamics is not a power attenuator. It does impact the headroom and I think it only impacts the clean channel.
I know that sometimes the value of things go up and sometimes down over time. I saw a your used price recommendation from 2019 and am wondering what you would say the red stripe is worth in 2021 (usd)?
The one I have seems to work pretty well and it has a Accutronics reverb wired into it.
Thanks!
My Peavey Bandit (gray stripe) will be here in a couple of days!
I'm curious Shane if you have ever played a Peavey Special 112? I was given one by an uncle who gave up guitar years ago, it's late 80s-early 90s and man it sounds incredible! The cleans I get from it are unreal. I'm not super impressed with the overdrive sounds (though they are usable for a jam) which is why I picked up the Bandit. Can't wait to try it out!
I have an original special 130, my first ever amp and a gift from late father when I took up guitar. It is an absolute beast. Use it with a boss gt8 and the overdrives are killer. Also with a Vox Straight 6 OD. It a real benchmark against my 3 other amps which are pretty respectable gear; PV classic 50, Mustang 3 V2 & Fender BB15. Like you said, superb cleans. If you dial up the presence you get some fenderesk cleans, otherwise the voicing is perfect for jazz without.
Two different speakers in the two models will make a difference I would think. There both great!
Hi folks,
Can someone recommend me any amp stand for peavey red stripe? i had several problems with size of stand that i did prev use
How much of the Red Stripe smoothness is from a well broken in speaker and the modern 'gray' has a new speaker? Interesting to swap speakers between them and see if the preference in tone follows the speaker or the amp.
Hi Shane, which amp is heavier? Also, which amp's reverb do you prefer?
I'm wondering if the Blue Marvels aren't quite equal. I'd love to hear what the new Bandit sounds like with the Texas Heat! I myself would throw a Swamp Thang in there for ungodly low end, but I wonder if the highs would be clear. Thank you, Shane!
Should have added a clip of the Red Stripe with the Texas Heat.
They both sound good but I think the modern one sounds better because the Red stripe has a funky sounding high mid 2-3k frequency that makes it sound a little plastic-y compared to the grey one. The gray one had a more open less nasally tone than the red stripe. I have both these amps. I've never A/B'd them though. I love them both :)
Speakers can be swapped ;) this is the generation of my peavey 5150 II full stack and still kick myself for selling to this day
That clean breakup is so good? I kind of like it on both amps for slightly different reasons. More open aired and airy on the newer amp, still very much "tube like" but less generic, rounded off sort of tube sound. Red Stripe is definitely more "Rounded off"(sounds like a darker speaker to me? or more aggressive filtering on the vintage channel?) but also seems to have a slightly fuzzier quality underneath to make up for it. Can see why you like these for blues! Better than a lot of the super generic toanz people use for it I think.
I have an opportunity to buy a grey stripe Bandit, so this was very helpful. Personally, I prefer the Red Stripe. The grey stripe has a honk in the mid-range that I didn't like. I don't know if that can be dialed out. The red stripe had a more pleasing top end as you described. I'm going to try playing with the EQ to see if I can make it work for me. Thanks Shane.
Replace the speaker with a Texas Heat speaker. This will solve your problem.
@@bobby1970 Thanks Nuke. I just bought a Line 6 Catalyst. It should arrive later this month. So the Bandit may be up for sale. By the way, the clean channel sounds better with pedals, Greer Lightspeed Fultone OCD, and a Joyo Sweet Baby. Then if I want a mid push I have a ToneCity Bad Horse. I may upgrade that later, but it does the job for now. Of course, now I'm wondering what that speaker would do. I promised myself no more gear unless it was absolutely essential. More gear isn't helping me play better. So that speaker swap might have to be someone else's project.
I didn’t think there would be much difference. But I’m liking the less scooped sound of the red stripe. The new one is too fuzzy.
Interesting, I think a bandit likes humbuckers. I’ve been playing it with single coils and just haven’t been feeling it. Could be me.
The grey stripe had a harder, brighter top end that might cut through better in a mix. The red stripe sounded warmer and more tubelike, less harsh and more pleasing to the ear overall.
If your playing on your own in your bedroom, I guess the small difference in sound could matter, but if your playing with others I would think the difference would be less obvious. I guess it comes down to how they feel to the player. I think they both sound good.....
T control on clean chanel 50% or noon best out of this amp power projection, Overdrive chanel just adds distortion and cut power and projection as speakers distorting too
i'm torn between the two amps: katana 100 or peavey bandit gray stripe 112? i already have a boss gt 100 boss multi effects.
which want should i get? your suggestion would be a great help man. by the way, i cant find any redstripe on the market right now. im base on philippines.
Awesome video! The Bandit is one of my all time favorite amps. And that says a lot because I play hard rock and I have the Peavey 5150 half stack and a Marshall JCM 2000 Head. I’ll also give the nod to the red stripe. But I prefer the older Bandit over the red stripe even. I’m also looking to pickup a Peavey XXL Head. Not sure but I think they’re also a version of Peavey’s a Trans Tube Technology.
Almost bought an XXL combo back when they were new for my cover band. Not sure why I went this route, but I was wowed by the Line 6 Spider II. In all fairness, I did use a bunch of the models and the effects live, so it was probably a better choice at the time (2003-ish). In hindsight, what was I thinking?
Can you test an other speaker into the "New" Bandit? V30 or Fender Eminence?
Awesome video Shane. I way prefer the Red Stripe bandit. To me it just sounds fuller, more pleasant and more natural. The grey stripe just sounds way more shrill and unpleasant but just me. Go old Bandits!!!
103-106 dB is loud as hell for anyone wondering, like full power tube saturation volume. I'd say about 80 is a comfortable bedroom practice volume. Probably sounds great
Is the vintage channel red stripe same as bright channel on a silver stripe usa?
Red Stripe was better overall IMO. Still sounded just a bit edgy/fizzy but that's probably just the stock speaker.
How about a Red Stripe (with your fav speaker) vs Katana 100 shootout? :-)
For gigs, you seem to have your Red Stripe set for some breakup. Are you still able to get a volume boost from your OD/boost despite this setting? Keep up the good work Shane.
Is there a master volume knob mod for this amp? The only problem is hissing when using it to record.
Great demo Shane - as always. I wanted to ask about the PRS. I'm a lefty and I usually have my pots wired as a right handed guitar so the taper works correctly. This means the up down volume rotation is backwards but the taper is correct. The Gibson's and Gordon Smith's I have or have owned are already wired like this but not the fenders. I am going to be getting one of these PRS guitars (after watching your demos) and just wanted to ask how are they wired. I've tried to catch your hand movements on the videos but just can't make it out. Cheers for such a great channel.
All the best Jeff
Jeff, you can get reverse log pots for a reverse audio taper so that you can use your pinky for volume swells. They're not so easy to find, but they are out there. Types are: A= Audio Taper (aka log), B= Linear Taper, and C= Reverse Audio Taper. Personally I use linear for volume, I'm used to controlling volume with one and they're widely available, and reverse audio for a tone control, essential for a tone control to be useable for anticlockwise left handed use . Fellow lefty Ian.
Thanks Shane for your videos!!! I´m trying to decide to buy a solid state amp with out emulations, please could you tell us which one would you choose if you only could have one? I´m trying to decide between the Peavey 112 , the Orange Crush cr60c or the jazz chorus 40. Thanks again.
The Bandit hands down but I haven't tried the Orange cr60c.
Is it easy to find a foot switch for the red stripe? Or can u use the new bandit foot switch?
They are both great amps but I prefer the red stripe in all areas!
Out of the gate, the Grey Stripe sounded better (attention span being what it is). Me, in love with the Red Stripe, though. Just a Studio Pro 112 here and hit it with a Zoom 1010. I knew both and worked great for jams.
Hi Shane, thanks for the video. I'm considering buying a second-hand red stripe in mint condition (the auction has 2 days left to run). It's made in China, was just wondering if the one in this video is also made in China. Thanks.
Both perfectly usable but the Red shades it overall at virtually every stage. Had the Katana not come along these would have been good choices.
I prefer them both to the Katana, and I even had the Artist model. I was just never overly impressed by it, and felt the Bandit got me closer to feeling like I was playing one of my tube amps, without the wear on the tubes.
I picked up a red stripe bandit to feel the weight and it felt so heavy I thought the previous owner must have been trapped inside it.
Hey, is it good for bedroom use? Low volume with pedals, what do you think? I'm thinking to buy one to use on rehearsals but also like a studying amp at home. Thanks
@@GiovaniCauzzi I use it as a practice amp, with the volume at about 4 it has a good full sound
The Red Stripe is a heavy bastard, that's for sure.
The red stripe bandit is the hands down winner and a true classic. These older amps are still demanding a good price on the secondhand market.
Can you compare the Boss Katana Artist and Peavey Bandit 112?
You need to give the Red Stripe Revolution a shot.