Prusa XL Initial Look - It's Finally Here!
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2023
- My Prusa XL has finally arrived and I got it up and running. Here is my initial look at the machine after a few days hands on with it.
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Another bonus for multiple toolheads is not to have different colors or materials, but nozzles. You can for example have a .6 and a .4 in different tools. You won't be using both in a single print (yet), but it is nice to have one "on call".
Yeah that’s a wild one to me. .6 nozzle for outside, .1/.8for support/infill
@@UncleJessyCombined that maybe with Fancy filament on the outside and cheap for the infill 🤯
Could potentially even have a spindle toolhead for some basic mid processing, maybe even have a printed magazine for heat set inserts and a tool head to auto place them.
@@MyBrothersMario That would be crazy. Add an additional axis or two to the insert toolhead, and you could even have the machine insert them at angles other than straight up and down. You could have inserts located in ways that would be difficult or impossible otherwise.
Thanks for sharing the first impressions! Seems clear there are better value printer choices for single material work. It’s all going to come down to value/reliability of tool changer. 👍
Reliability, quality, and the ability to sustain it knowing that firmware and software is always getting better is why i am willing to buy a prusa. Excited to get my XL for tool changing
Great big review for a great big machine! Im excited to see what you do with it in the future.
By the time Prusa gets these tuned and faster, I think the market will find the XL is too little, too late, and too expensive.
They’ve had over a year to tune it. Too little too late. The Neptune 3 Max beats this. When the Neptune 4 Max comes out this fall, no one will want this XL.
@@robertfousch2703 China build quality vs EU build quality. Not even a comparison. One uses high quality components while the other uses the cheapest parts sourced from shenzhen. One will still be usable and working in 5 years while the other is discontinued and phased out.
Too little, too late and Hella expensive
Definitely missing features that should have been there day one given the pre-order in 2021. Feels like Prusa diverted resources to the MK4 instead of finishing this first...
@@robertfousch2703it's worse than that. A voron 2.4 350mm kit costs half as much, prints faster and costs less. You could build a voron 2.4 and still have money left to buy a Neptune 4pro
Good content video on the Prusa XL. I still have my AnyCubic Konrad Max for over a year and is working great for me and no need for all those adjustments that you had to make. Thanks for this short review! 💪🏾
I just got an XL to play with a few days ago. Great printer, great finish. I love how the printer has all internal slots in the profiles covered and has a full closed metal bottom. No hidden corners where pieces of filament or extrusion "get lost". Easy to clean out with a brush or the vacuum cleaner. It is not a cheap printer but this is actually the first printer that I feel does not need any mods to be usable.
@6:09 "exactly following the instructions" but ... if you followed the instructions exactly, the steel sheet should be on the heated bed since that is what was asked in step 5.2 in the build manual and I have not seen instructions to remove it again further on.
Awesome initial look! I've had similiar issues with stringing. I have 2-tool version and occasionally the stringing causes imperfections on the first layer.
Between the Qidi Max 3 and K1 Max the Prusa XL is a hard sell. Nevermind not knowing if/when Bambu will drop a large format Core XY. Hard to justify the price/wait.
They might be doing the larger version as a bed slinger if the A1 is any indication.
I'd love it if they made an X1 that was like 500*500...
@@user-nq4fp4wr8c A large-format bed slinger would be the absolute worst possible decision Bambu Labs could make. Not only would it be incredibly slow, it would be much less space efficient, more expensive, louder, etc. The only reason I can think of for the A1 mini being a bed slinger is price and ease of repair.
Wow this was a loooooong time coming!
Indeed! Printing pretty dang great minus a lot of stringing
@@UncleJessy just finished watching the video! The prints look really. smooth... but it's a Prusa, was there any doubt? I wonder if the stringing is because of the 0.6 nozzle on the XL?
From the Prusa website "New orders will be processed in the first half of 2024“. Sounds extremely over promised here and this was essentially a crowd funding project. There are several great alternatives available now and even better options coming next year soooooo..... (but thank you for sharing Uncle Jesse! We enjoy your videos.
@@EUCvibesso is the Prusa XL really worth the money? I have a Mk4 for the past few months, it's been working flawlessly, the printer is a great addition to our small scale manufacturing facility.
I am hoping to add a large format printer now. What I want to know is if the Prusa XL will do the job. What other alternatives will you consider? Do you think I should consider a creality, or voron?
@@arbjful I can just say, never buy Creality. If you enjoy the reliability of the Mk4 you are lucky to not have owned any Creality. I would seriously not consider most other printers in the large form factor. Look 1-3 months ahead of the user experience of the Prusa XL, and make the call, and be VERY skeptical to any other large printer
Ty for confirming that I'm not the only one seeing intensive stringing on my 2H XL.
Yeah I think I saw something on Reddit about people having the same issue as well
With that price tag I would have hoped it have no issues and come with the secondary hotend. I honestly forgot that this was coming. For the price you could buy multiple Neptune 3 Plus.
With the speed (or lack of) on the XL, I'm wondering what the benefit of it over like a Neptune 3 Max is. Obviously it can be upgraded to multiple heads but as you point out, that's a lot of dough for that capability. There are ways to shorten print time that don't involve higher movement speed.
@Dave_the_Dave also pretty sure the Neptune 4 plus and max were teased. So with klipper coming installed so why spend that money on something that doesn't really add that much
@@EUCvibes In the announcement video for the Prusa Mini, a pair of Minis is shown as creating more parts faster than a MK3, so there are applications for multiple small bedslingers.
My stringing is caused by the humidity here in miami Florida. I use the print dry pro for an entire day ( they provide a book of what temps each type of filament should be set as). Then after 24 hours of drying I begin to print with the filament in the print dry pro. No stringing and man does the filament on the print look soooo good. 😊
I’m awaiting my 5-head to arrive (the ability to use dissolvable or different support material, and mix of flexible and rigid is so exciting for our prototyping in the lab. A lot of our models are anatomic and since evolution of or skeleton took place before 3D occurred our bones always need support to print (I’ve been working on genetic modifications to engineer mammals with low-polygon bones, but until that’s perfected and everyone has hex-shaft femurs, yeah gotta use supports! 😀)
I would love to get one of these for my projects/videos! Very cool.
Cool video, thanks for sharing. We work with MK4 now, but I hope we will get the XL in early 2024. Cheers
Couple things Prusa should probably do with the WiFi:
1. Make their own module and harden it. This way they're in full control of the module's firmware, they can add nice things like sign into a WiFi with a QR code, or hotspot mode. If Arduino can release a $20 board based on a uBlox ESP32-S3 (?), I'm pretty sure Prusa can pull it off.
2. Work towards an open standard for local networked printing. Peer to peer, client-server, whatever the tech, they're in a really good position to set the standard for all hobbyists and small-scale farms; just give us an option that doesn't require a subscription to a datacenter (coughMarkforgedcough) where who knows what will happen to our 3D models.
Heat and retraction, they are nearly perfect but we found that the environment such as ambient temp and humidity will have that stringing. Not a machine fault but the reason why we all have to tune settings in different parts of the world. Happy Printing!
5:50 i had the same problem... XD figured out by my self!
Thanks for the video
Don't forget about pva. Great for more complex thins with a lot of supports
Thanks for sharing, Clayton. On the string, I've been getting crazy stringing with the Elegoo Rapid PLA on a K1 Max but none on my Bambu's or the K1 for that matter. I think that PLA being so "flowy" it is prone to stringing without really dialing in retractions...which I've not figured out yet, lol
Thanks! Yeah it prints pretty flawlessly on my Bambu printers or even my MK4. For sure will be testing it on the K1 Max soon!
I am curious if there is still a hot market for these. A couple of years ago this would be an easy homerun.
In 2023....there are a lot more options.
Personally, I am still going with Voron 2.4 350mm......for a lot less money.
That is why I changed my order to the 5 toolhead version. I like my Bambu with the AMS, but I think this will be a completely different experience for color / material swaps
close to zero "pre-built" options for multi toolheads and a 360 x 360 bed though.
@@nightcrayon Fair point.
Same. Im contemplating bulidng a large format voron and keeping my X1C for smaller prints. I was always scared to do a voron because I could never trust the accuracy of my ender 3 but the X1C will be great at making the parts in asa.
G'day Uncle jess ol son...... ive been looking at getting a new printer to upgrade from my Ender 3. Im on a Disability Pension so i cant afford these new core XY systems, but after this vid im not going to even look at Prusa XL with its bugs. I'd rather a low teir Bambu or save for the Creality K1, ive gotten heavily into the Omni and waiting for the Omni 2 to be released but my Ender 3 just takes too long to print the basic 230 x 230mm case taking over 6 days to do. Cheers m8 for your delightful vids and giving me a purpose in life, up untill recently i was giving up on life (seriously) but some of your vids have helped. Cheers from a shut in Downunder
Yeah I remember having issues with my old kit when built it. But there is always someone that already had same issue and commented about it. Thank good for comments!
Gonna wait a long time before considering this one.
I had stringing issues with the Prusament Galaxy Black PLA. I have a modified food dehydrator, a really cheap unit, and after 2 hours in the dryer at full heat (65C) I am now printing without any stringing. PLA does absorb small quantities of moisture.
"issues… that we'll dig into." - I see what you did there.
😂😅
I was and still am a PRUSA fan and owner... but the next few years are going to be challenging for them. Bambu Labs are clearly trying (and in my opinion succeeding) to replace PRUSA as the go to reliable prosumer 3D printer. They just released a MINI killer and now they are coming for the XL. I hope PRUSA can step up and give them a hard fight, the ones that stant to win more are us users.
Hope bambu wins solely due to Prussa being overpriced just because of its name
Prusa is based in the EU with EU prices
Its not definitely overprice due to filament waste, in few days of printing you get your money "back" on filament waste.@@DivisionRc
New roll or not, Prusa filament or not, dehydrate your filament prior to use. Great video as usual. Tbh this printer cost way to much to for what it is. I get it and I too am thankful for what Prusa has done in the community but nothing is forever. Adapt or fail. I wish them luck.
I think this machine is amazing but the market has evolved. I feel that someone will release something on par or better in short order. Also, the price is wow. For that price it should be 5 or 6 printheads standard.
Ya it feels like we are less than a year out from stuff that makes this feel old
Bambu Labs is making life at prusa very difficult.
@@diyfury my friends with print farms are still saying Prusa is better for reliability. My guess is that reliability at Bambu for their next generation will put that concern to rest
@@BigBadBunnyGodit always feels like that in the 3d printing world, but then 10 years later you notice things haven't evolved much.
I think maybe the total print time is in the file name ones done. I definitely have in my screen using Marlin so it should be possible to add it.
Still waiting on mine - I ordered the single head on Nov 18 2021, and was notified that I could pay for it, but I want the 5 head kit, so am still waiting. Hope to get it someday.
Yeah I was debating on upgrading more order as well. It did end up taking a month or so after I fully paid for it to actually ship as well.
Think I’ll stick with the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max. Bigger build volume for less than half the price of the Prusa
I got 2 Neptune 3 plus and a Ender 3 pro 🤦🏼♂️ the Ender was a headache since the beginning but it thought me a lot lol
For sure the pricing is a MAJOR factor for a lot of folks. That $2k price point is a major thing to consider
JUST ordered a Max. excited to finally get into FDM after a few yrs of resin
Oh I want it just not that price tag
As a Neptune 3 Max user...
Yes, it is awesome. This prusa looks like a pain.
I would like to update to an XL, but there's two things I need. Most of all I need it to be able to print with 2 different nozzle sizes. For instance .6 for heavy work, .25 for fine details.
The other thing I would like is two different materials. For instance being able to print PETG and PLA on the same print.
Maybe they have this by now, but when I checked last time, they didn't.
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are asking for, but I think the XL is exactly what you are talking about. With the 5 head model, you could have any combination of materials and nozzle sizes.
I've preordered the XL back in June and still waiting. Looking forward to a review. After using Bambu carbon, i love how it works out of a box without forever issues. Its disconcerning that a Prusa needing so much fine tuning. Kinda defeats the premium price.
Every Prusa printer has had issues up to a couple of years after launch, we're just forgetting what happened after the launches of the MK3(S/+), Mini, and the SL1.
@@MMuraseofSandvich for the record this is a bad thing for the end user. Prusa must try to improve the user experience and reduce prices in order to survive.
@@MMuraseofSandvich yup esp because all the peopple were like ZOMG PRUSA BEZZT even tho it was mid and expensive before sounds like this is the same thing. if you're going to have to tweak shit .. buy a troodon or 3 lol.. the best part is the heated bed imo
Like , isn't one of the main points of Prusa work well with minimal tuning ?
@@cooperzurad7012 You do know that Bambu's pricing is actually unsustainable and they are losing money with every machine they sell right? We're in the hook phase, that will change, given time.
This level of printer would be revolutionary if it released in 2021 in an alternate universe without Bambu X1's and Qiditech Plus and Max 3's ever coming to market. In 2023 in our world it's priced at twice what it's worth unfortunately.
it feels like in the past few months and years of 3D printing, there's been a subconscious shift (at least for me) in what appeals to me as a printer: I think I've been spoiled with all these new fantastical printers being released with slick casings and intricate designs, which makes me turned off for the XL and it's appearance. I know it's an unimportant factor, but even something as bare-boned as the P1P in my personal opinion looks better extrinsically.
Exactly.
I think a lot of people forget that it tool changer printer so it not just a bigger core xy mk3 but yeah came out late and seem to have some issues
I love Prusa and preordered an XL within the first 5 min but haven't pulled the trigger on my preorder yet. $2K+ is a lot of money for a machine with printed components and I'm just not convinced by the prints I've been seeing yet.
look at vorons, 3d printed parts and no issues
I don't see any issue with 3D printed parts, no matter price. Still not sure if this printer is worth that price tag, but it's not looking too good so far unfortunately.
$2700 with 1 extruder shipped assembled.
@@Hughie1987 Plenty of opportunity for issues to arise with a Voron too, no matter how well built. Finished my bog standard 2.4 6 months ago and currently waiting for LDO to get a warranty harness to me so I can fix it. Mind you this is the only issue that it has had so far, but anything can break. I have a couple Bear-upgraded Prusa Mk3s+ printers on the same bench, and they are workhorses, with some nice features that the Voron lacks, for all its sophistication. Wouldn't want to give up any of them; they're all great, but they can all break too.
Jo Prusa is never going to stop using printed parts on his machines; it is a point of pride for him.
Regarding the stringing issue: I had the same problem on some printer were the temperature was too high for the print speed. Try to reduce it about 5-10°. If that does not help try to turn off Z-Hop. It gives the toolhead time to ooze
Thanks! Will give that a try. I need to print some temp tower tests
I have a printer that's properly PID tuned and has the correct thermistor set in config. It's a genuine e3D hotend. It runs like 10-20 degrees higher than it shows. It took me a lot of cal cubes to realise why my prints were all messed up.
Nice video. I haven't purchased a printer yet but I'm torn between the XL or the MK4. I know both will be able to have multiple heads but looking at hobby stuff with larger prints i.e. cosplay, helmets, swords, etc. Looks like the print quality is really good. Would it be possible to compare the MK4 with a .6 nozzle against the XL with .6 nozzle - more similar comparison? Like I said I'm torn between the two but also if I'm going to go big, its better to buy once, cry once. Any suggestions to help? Thanks again for your videos - liked and subscribed.
I know this is their latest and most exciting but it just feels behind. Got an X1C and a few weeks later cancelled my preorder for the XL. I really hope Prusa finds a way to catch up and stay competitive.
the tech in the XL is way ahead of the X1C there is nothing to catch up other than price but not everyone has the chinese government subsidising them.
@@thegarageluthier can you explain more on how the tech on the XL is better?
@@JohnSmith-ld1pw sure no problem
* Planetry geared extruder with large circumference gear.
* Analog force sensor, provides leveling feedback as well as extruson force.
* Multi segment bed for zone controlled heating.
* Power Panic
* Obstruction detection
* Tool Changing.
* Better electronics
* Actual use of stepper drivers
* Linear rails and high quality components.
* No glue used.
* User serviceable
* Quick change hotends without pulling out tiny connectors.
* Theres more but you can read about it.
* Also a Open Source Company
* And not subsidised by the chinese government
@@thegarageluthier Thanks for the info!
@@thegarageluthier I am not with you on that one.
Tech being ahead doesnt always mean its better. Secondly, Bambu does solve a lot of their problems with sensors and software while prusa does have a tendency to solve their problems mechanically, like the planetary gearbox nextruder you mentioned. Its two completely different ways of approaching a problem, so how come that one is way ahead of the other if you cant directly compare them. Third thing is, just because you can fit some fancy arrangement of gears into an extruder doesnt mean you should. Bambu extruder is working perfectly fine and I've never heard of any issues regarding it. Adding complexity to a system always makes it prone to fail easier, and makes its repairability worse.
Are there any other printers that can have more than 2 extruders in the consumer market or is it only the Prusa XL? I mostly see dual extrusion.
If you get a second print head I would be interested in your opinion of using filament that disolves in water for supports
Yeah I will be looking at upgrading to a 2nd head at some point. The multi material or multi nozzle potential seems awesome for that
Many people have been using PETG for supports for PLA, and vice versa, as they don't stick to each other well. the water soluble material is fairly expensive,
@@woodwaker1 It's not so bad if you use the Prusa Slicer option to use it as interface material rather than the entire support i.e. 95% of the support is PLA, then the bit touching the overhang is soluble. The reel is still expensive but you should go through it much slower. The overhang quality is unbeatable.
Always cool to see your vids sir. I'd love to get into fdm printing but my home ain't big enough for 3 printers
As each month passes, I am increasingly pushed to cancel my XL pre-order. It's absurd that this printer still doesn't have input shaping and it's almost 2024. Aside from the build volume itself, the XL is becoming obsolete before it even hits general availability.
Just cancelled mine!
I cancelled mine and now have 2 X1C's w/AMS's couldn't be happier
agreed. The only thing that will save this one is the huge build plate and multiple head capability, both fairly niche, at least for now. I know I'm not shelling out $2k+ for a single head machine I have to mostly put together. As nice as having multiple extruders would be, spending nearly $3k for this is going to keep the market for this one pretty small IMO.
@@JohnSmith-ld1pw I have been now pretty impressed with the cutting that you can do in the slicer along with putting in dowels etc. You can break up larger prints and get them out fast on the 256 cubed X1C. I do have 2 Modix for the really big stuff but the speed from Bambu is just game changing.
I still haven't paid for my pre-order - I respect that they got units out to buyers rather than giving freebies out to reviewers, but it does mean we STILL haven't really had any thorough reviews, especially of the 2+ tool head version. I also definitely need a bigger printer than my super-upgraded Ender 3, but maybe not quite this big given how huge it is. The main thing I want it for it printing soluble supports, or PLA supports for TPU, it sucks there aren't many other options for that other than a few flawed IDEX printers.
Do they have an Enclosure option for the Prusa XL? I would like to learn more about high temp filaments with this printer?
hi about your heat bed calibration thing ,.. MK3 user do know this ;)- - the reason is logical the bed takes away some heat so it has to calibrate with the bed on ... keep up the good work ps: which camera setup do you use ?
I can still see a need for this printer for the tool changing aspect (if someone genuinely had that need), but otherwise it just doesn't seem to be remotely worth it. No input shaping is borderline criminal today.
You can see either motor or belt noise in the spiderman eye print when compared to the Mk4. Maybe try installing some good old motor dampers on it to quieten it down and maybe get rid of some of those artifacts. I had to do that with my Flying Bear Reborn 2 as the motor noise was really causing serious artifacts. If those artifacts are belt noise, I'm not sure how to fix that and would appreciate input on possible fixes.
Such a high price and basically only suited for PLA, PETG and TPU out of the box as it isn't even enclosed ... Sure, Prusa has some nice ideas included, but what use is having a jet-engine on your car if basic steering isn't working? Bambu didn't bring magic or stuff that we hadn't seen yet (except for the Lidar, but they also seem to have realized that is actually overkill), but they figured out what things are really needed to provide a printer that just works the way normal users want it ... Their path from X1C via lower cost P1P to the P1S shows how they look at what the masses want. Prusa on the other hand doesn not seem to listen to the market. People want cheap, speed and more than PLA ... and size. Bambu covers 3 of the 4, Prusa only 1.
Why does it feel like Prusa dropped the ball at the 10yard line only to have the other dudes pick it up and do a 90yard dash to score ?
prusa has become complacent. they are following the path of printrbot.
I think the stringing / webbing was OBVIOUSLY because you were printing Spiderman related things 😁
THWIP
Printers are getting so good they must be on the verge of printing something useful soon!
Hi Jessy, love that printer wish I could afford that...
I had a question I am looking for a new FDM printer for around 500 budget and I would like something that can print full helmets... However I print in a cabinet with a space of 24x24x32 It needs to fit in there. Do you have any suggestions of printers that would work in that space?
Neptune 3 Plus hands down. If you can wait a few months it looks like a newer version might be on the way
@@UncleJessy thanks I appreciate the info, yea I can wait for sure.
I think the most important and reason many people got the XL is that it has option of the 5 tool head
by the time prusa ships 5 tool head machines years from now, all the competition will have multi tool head machines.
no way I'm paying 4500 for 5 tool head today maybe in 2021
Bambu Lab flow calibration is the future, too much stringing here for the Prusa XL for such a premium price.
seems a bit subpar for the modern printers a little bigger bed yeah but doesnt seem to fast, bambu fast with good quality..i am interested in the multi toolhead idea though
Surprised to hear about PrusaSlicer times not being accurate, on my MK3S they are accurate (plus or minus 1 minute) and since it puts the estimate as part of the file name I have never needed or wanted the machine to display it after the print was finished, I just figured the XL would be the same.
I hope you can make an “XL vs Bamboo” video.
You had zero issues with you mk4? What happened with the thing slamming into the bed and making a dent because of zero issues?
Sorry, i meant i have no issues with the bed leveling. My replacement MK4 has been rock solid and the input shaper update has been fantastic
Prusa needed over two months to send me the missing parts. And have still no answer why it isn´t working for the same time. Support is absolutely ridiculous right now there... And parallel i´m waiting for nearly 3 months for a fix for my Prusa MK4. They have absolutely no idea what is wrong with my together 3500€ printers...
I have an old MK3 and has gotten into the habit of stringing. I thought it might be the brand of filament. After so many frustrations, I started printing it with a cooler nozzle...pretty much on the lower threshold of the filament manufacturers recommendation and the old printer feels new again.
I know another Prusa user that has done the same and it works. I wonder if its the same for the XL....
I will say Creality still leaves the print time on display and it also is almost 100% accurate to what the their slicer says. That is one thing I like about the k1 max. Would love to run a prusa at some point just to know what I am missing out on, if I am actually missing out.
I have both a Ender 3 Pro I picked up from Microcenter for $99 and a MK3S, and honestly I like them both about the same. The Ender 3 with the BTT SKR Mini E3 v3 is a lot quieter than my Prusa even on silent mode but that could be my fault honestly.
Now, I maybe a bit concerned. Earlier this month, I pre ordered the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max because it was the largest and fastest printing under half a grand. Max speed of 500mm/second with a 420*420*500mm bed size. I hope my problems would be minimal.
I was helped by another genius I'm more amazed
Where can i find the STL file for the spiderman mask you showed at the end?
Was the failed print uploaded over the network using PrusaLink?
There’s a known problem right now with corrupted gcode. If you still have the file on the drive, copy it off and check the gcode that was on the printer to see if it has odd movements.
No, it was usb. The only file I printed over Prusa link was the Black Eye file, I didn’t set it up till later as I knew it would be slow to transfer anything.
i found the stringing was from the retraction in prusa slicer i bumped it up just a little and no more stringing try doing that it should fix that
Reminds me of Blackberry releasing a new phone after the iPhone has been released and changed the market.
Is this thing still like literally zero bed levelling? Fixed bed without screw calibration?
Yup! Just run the calibration & its level. This and the MK4 are pretty awesome with that
@@UncleJessy I'm thinking between MK4 and this for a next 3d printer for industrial use, because managing the screw calibration is annoying especially when the printer freezes and pushes the bed downwards. This XL one is pretty pricey but the build volume and potential multi filament prints later on with expected long term support is something that might make the bigger one worth it.
The stringing comes through using the .6 nozzle. Stringing is induced by just 3 factors. Flow, temp and retract in that order. Direct drive 1mm standart retract +-0.5 is ALWAYS enough. MK4 is doing better with a smaller nozzle. So the nozzle is different = too much flow.
Waiting on reviewers like you to let me know about the multi-colour/filament printing experience on the XL is. So I can decide what to do with my XL 5 head pre-order. Cause for single filament printing, I have a X1C now, so would have no use for the XL. But X1C with AMS is slow because of all the spooling in/out, pooping, purging, etc. So I am really hoping the XL's multi-head solution makes this faster. But the XL is certainly slower than the X1C, so would the multi-head improvement ultimately be faster than the X1C+AMS for multi colour prints?? That's where I need your help!!
I think the big difference would be dependent on the number of filament changes. I try to have my AMS sway less than 50 times per print, so it is doable, if you had hundreds or thousands the time difference would favor the XL
Would love to see a very close up just to see the depth of layers
Sadly I believe once Bambu releases the A1 on the 20th the Mini will be obsolete. Then when the Rumored Bambu P1X that is supposed to be a big build plate releases Prusa will be like the REAL Rolls Royce of 3D Printers.
As in.........
Was good back in the day.
Overpriced.
Needs Alot of Maintenance.
Much Better Machines out there for way less money.
Loyal Fans will swear by them when people ask why not get a (x).
A VORON would be a better buy if your trying to assemble a Printer.
Pretty sure the A1 will be Prusa MK3s/MK4 sized rather then Mini sized, but I guess we'll find out on the 20th.
It was sarcasm before, but now I really think Bambu will release a larger printer before the XL gets going properly.
what are you using to get tree supports on prusa xl? I have one and cant find settings in prusa slicer. Please help.
its actually known as organic supports in PS
What camera do you suggest use to see your 3d printer?
After using a Klipperised printer where the file transfers are basically instant, I'm a little puzzled why it takes so long. Not a huge deal, just a shame it's so sluggish after I've used something better.
i like how they did the heated bed, save on power costs
out of date upon release Prusa are moving too slow and getting overtaken
Things are moving crazy fast now with new machines & adding new features. Fingers crossed input shaping is released soon for the XL
I think Prusa has a place in the market. You pay extra but you do get a machine that just works. That being said, a lot of the prusa clones have improved tremendously. The Kobra 2 Max coming soon from Anycubic kind of makes this printer at this price point DOA. You are correct ...this is a miss from Prusa. This needed to come out 2 years ago
@@DamnYoureGarbage uh i guess you missed the part of the video where he had all the issues
@@ssweat I guess you missed the part where he didn't touch or tweak the profile...Stringing can be fixed through the slicer, a failed print isn't uncommon until you get the printer dialed in. His was most likely a unique issue unless it continues to happen which I'm sure he would have reported. If you have ever 3D printed anything...By your comment you never have, you would know tweaking and changing settings and hardware is just part of the experience.
@@UncleJessy seems everyone has input shaping except prusa. they used to be the leader, now they are way behind.
just wait for the Bambulab XL, RIP Prusa
Are those magnet holes in the model or did you add them yourself?
Yosh studios adds those into almost all of their helmet files for magnet inserts.
@UncleJessy that's fantastic. Thanks for the tidbit if info. That's really helpful
Man, day 1 order here. Still waiting for 5 head. Thinking on canceling my order.
Hi Uncle Jessy, I appreciate your work
Having question. I.m searching for low cost large 3d printer and found BlueMaker, Model: Suyin 455, printing size 750x750x850, but no review. Maybe you view before this machine
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At a price point of $1999, you will receive a sizable printer without an enclosure, lacking multi-color support, requiring a four-hour assembly time, and the print relatively slow print speed. IMO, marketing this printer in 2023 will be challenging.
i'm pretty sure a lot of people cancelled their XL orders and got a bambu instead.
This thing better be *super* reliable as a exchange of the relatively slow speed , like isn't the whole point of the coreXY to be fast ? pretty sure that there are bedslingers faster than this
It's $2700 assembled with shipping and 1 extruder.
@@ulforcemegamon3094 The speed part will come in an update in October, they just pushed it to the Mk4 and in a surprising act pushed it as beta to the mini and put a release date on it for the XL. Yes it's annoying that it's not here yet but it will be a thing in a few weeks. I would bitch about the price more as that's not going to get fixed in a fw update lol
For the price of a 5 head one, you can quite literally buy an entire farm of 3D printers.
I'm saving to buy my first 3D printer and start a small business at home. I don't want something extremely expensive, but reliable, not asdembled and that won't limit me in my learning process. Probably won't be getting one of these (although I haven't seen another printer of these characteristics, also every Prusa printer is extremely expensive).
omg. I've never really been interested in printing cosplay accessories... until you just put that batman mask on. Fuck that was cool. I need a bigger printer.
This was cool when he announced it... now i feel its dated with the exception of the modular bed
0.6 being standard is lovely, now throw a 1.2mm on there and let it rip :)
The stringing is most probably because your filament has absorbed moisture.
Where did u get the Spider-Man print?
The only thing I can see with this is the open source nature of it where you can change the tool head to possibly a different tool rather than filament. Other than that I’ll stick with my K1.
Its unfortunate how expensive it is. There doesn't appear to be many reasons to buy this over a Bambu (except the open source slicer).
Not built in China might be a reason.
The Satin Sheet is the default sheet with the XL according to the March 13th Blog Post regarding the Prusa XL
"All preorders (not just day-1) will receive two gifts: an extra print sheet (a double-sided textured sheet) so you can hot-swap it with the default satin sheet. "
Thanks for verifying! I would have assumed that info would actually be on the product page as well so people know what kind of extra sheet they might want to add on
The only explanation I can gather based on the other products Prusa offers is that since its a "Pre-Order" product, there is no Specs tab information on the page like all their other products. Hopefully Prusa can update that page in the near future.@@UncleJessy
Part 3 of the life size supervillain coming soon?!
Prusa fanboys ultimate retort had always been "it just works" that's why you pay $2-3x for it. You get it, take it out of the box and assemble it and it just works. For years and years, so reliable. A little maintenance and use a workhorse you can count on for years to come. I've gotten many comments about how my ender is trash yadda yada.. imo Bambu put prusa on the back foot and it seems they still don't have much of a plan to recover. Or maybe they do but it's a slow rollout. Idk but I do think it has to be getting kinda hard to justify the price premium vs the competition. I'll be honest, when the xl was announced i was like 🤩"ooooh new shiny" but knew even if i could afford to id never spend $2500 bucks for one. Especially with voron being a q thing. Now that Bambu had their offerings out and all the other companies are scrambling too catch up it seems like prusa is being well and truly left behind. Their new shiny is all 3-5 year old tech/features for ridiculous money, and it doesn't "just work" anymore...
How does Neptune 3 plus compares to the prusa xl?
I will be looking at doing a big printer compare video soon. But the plus is fantastic for the price. No wifi, leveling isn’t as nice as the xl but the 3 plus is a fraction of the price of the xl
Can u share a link for the level print u showed thanks
It came preloaded on the machine
Not sure if it's just me but your audio sounds really over-compressed and almost clipped the way some commercials are. I'm not sure if that's intentional or not, but I'd highly suggest setting your target volume way lower so it sounds better and less compressed.
Using a lav microphone clipped to your shirt may also help, as you won't have to apply quite so much noise reduction.