@FlightinmyVeins I did not say anything about a CR500 in my previous comment; a CR500 is definitely faster than an XR650R. I currently own an XR650R and a CRF450R. I think my 450 is faster and my old CR250R was faster up to about 75 mph. My XR does not feel nearly as quick, but has a greater top speed of the 3 bikes.
I owned a 2001 CR500 and is crazy fast. I just bought a 2001 XR650R and as soon as I received it, I will race them against each other to see what happen. I'll give you the update later, take care.
Gear the XRR so that it tops out at 65 and then see who wins. The peak hp of the CR500 is just a thin spike in comparison to the wide band monster torque of the XRR. Two very different bikes, if you want a reasonable comparison you need similar gearing. XRRs are built for 110mph across the desert, not 45 around small tracks. That said, CR500 is a legend in its own right. Two great bikes, love it... 👍
You didn't read what I said my buddy spent all kinds of money on that motor the 650 that is and after he got it running he comes to me and says I'll kick your cr500 ass that's all
@@cr500af I did read what you said. Above 65 he whoops your ass. You hit 65 in what, 3 seconds maybe? So your title should actually read "CR500 barely manages to cling on to lead for 3 seconds before getting it's ass kicked by an XR650r". There are bigger and badder bikes out there than an XR650r, but the CR500 isn't one of them.
You do know they make gears for a CR to Right. The CR500 will smoke a 650R any way you want to play. Gear the 650 to do 65mph and get smoked short distance and drop a few teeth on the back of the CR and get smoked to 110. Bottom line the 2 bikes are not even close.
@jeffclark2253 Yep, and that's why the Cr500 won the Baja 1000 for every year it was manufactured by Honda.... ah wait , no that was the XR650R... Two incredible bikes for different reasons but don't try to compare in the 1st three seconds of a straight line drag, completely pointless.
It won a desert race oh wow. Still is a gutless no power pig every where else. Bring one of them no power tanks to the drag strip single track woods or moto cross track hell any real racing and get smoked.
dude get rid of the factory carb and put a fcr carb on it and it will smoke that 500 . my 650 smokes all of my buddys bikes 450s to kx 500. it freekin rips !
@vitaliyr1 The xr has 11.1 pistion all the intake mods stage 3 cam by xr onlys little porting the thing doesnt even come on till 4gear. My freind thought he could beat me every where i know that i cant beat him from 4 gear on he does have more top end.My cr500 is .40 over milled head the ports where just cleaned up it has a pwk 39.5 on it fmf gnarly wisco pistion it hits hard thats why he cant beat me out of the hole he did learn his leason about big bore towstrokes you cant mess beeeet them...
I have not done it yet, but I'm pretty sure that the 500 will beat it. The thing that I like about the 650 is the torque. And as you already knows the 500 is crazy fast. I installed a Rekluse system on it and it's awesome. Thanks for asking and keep on riding.
Jose Diaz 650r is faster. The CR500 in this video is really a modern 450 with the old 500 swapped into it -- which means the engine almost certainly has different power valve, exhaust and sprocket. While the 650r in this video, still has the stock exhaust, and was on the 500's tail.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi 650r is nowhere near as fast as the CR500. In stock form the CR500 makes 60-63 hp depending on the year and the XR650R makes around 45 and is way heavier than the CR500. The only place the XR650R will beat a CR500 in stock for is in absolute top speed, but this is only because the 650 has higher gearing stock than most/all CR500s.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi Not to mention the CR500 could not have a "different power valve" because a CR500 does not have a power valve to begin with. While a power valve can be installed on one, it does not necessarily mean this 500 has one.
CR500 is a two stroke and it can't touch the top speed of a uncorked 4 stroke XR. Ones built for top speed and endurance the other is built for acceleration speed and blowing up after 5000 miles.
dolly drill A CR500 with higher gearing than stock will go over 100 mph. In terms of acceleration the CR500 will beat the XR650R assuming both bikes have ample traction. 4 strokes have slightly longer legs in general so an XR may be able to top out higher than the CR of both bikes are geared for maximum speed, but the CR is quicker and more powerful in stock form than even an uncorked XR. Both are fast bikes, but the CR500 is simply lighter and has more power.
The gear box is much closer on the CR and that gives it the advantage. There was a reason that Honda used XR650Rs in Baja. They make more power for starters. The 2005 XR650R makes 61HP stock. More than the CR500 ever made stock.
@xr650man And a 650 doesnt work that good for a track that well either and thats what my 500 was built for not to do 130 miles an hour i top out at about 65 he can kill me in top end. They are two differnt machines.
It's simple,stock cr 500 approx 50hp, stock xr 650 around 30hp, of course the cr is geared for the track but just by simply upping the front cog or lowering the rear you're gonna get easily over 100mph with the CR, i recall Eric Geboares and Jobe doing way over 120 on a beach with their big factory 2 banger 500s.
Yea, but you're on an very modded CR500. In fact, is that not a modern alluminum 450 frame? You went through the trouble to swap the engine, so I'm sure you've done work too it. 650 is stock looking. Even has the stock exhaust. Stock for stock, the 650r kills the 500.
@@dune7824 CR500 AB WERK 68PS . Wenn man die Strömungskanäle optimiert und den Motor innen Poliert , hängt der Motor regelrecht am GAS - GESCHÄTZE 75PS . Gewicht etwa 100kg. Ich habe 2xCr500 und 1xCRF450.
@John Leslie ich hatte eine xr650 ;-) extrem hot und Ich habe 2x Cr500 aus 98 - wie kommst du darauf , Ich wäre nie gefahren . Mit 12Jahren fing Ich mit Trail an und hatte unzählige Bikes ! Alle aufgebaut , auch innen Motor getunnt , poliert . 4-takter sind grundsätzlich kacke ! 2-Takter haben wenig bewegliche Teile - wankel Motor noch weniger Teile als ein 4Takter. 4takter ist ein industriemotor - 2takter und wankel sind echte erfindungen ! Ich wette Du hast nie 2zyl 2takt oder 4zyl 2takt gefahren ............4zyl 2takt sind jeden 4takt 4zyl überlegen - grundsätzlich . Ebenso verhält es sich beim Eintopf . 2takter siegt ! Ihr müßt mal eine XR übersetzung auf einer CR aufziehen und dann vergleichen - die CR zieht immer davon ;-)
@kunz82414 Man you don't know what your talking about.....The CR500 has a HP advantage over the 650R no matter how you gear them...the 500 wins. The 250 will lose quite badly to a 650R. I own a 650R and would never claim that it would beat a cr500. But i will claim that it will own a CRF450X and a KTM450SXF with similar gearing.
that's funny casue every red honda bleeding 4 stroke lover says that... funny enough most 2 strokes are more reliable then 4 strokes. no argument no excuses and no personal opinions or stories. take it to the bank
Have you ever ridden? His shifts were spot on and he didn't over rev the engine and he kept it in the power band. These big 500s aren't very zingy like the 250s either.
500s don't rev like 250s do. Shifts might have been a touch low, but they were in the powerband for sure. Just doesn't "sound" like it. 500s have a midrange like falling out of a tree, and a topend like falling off a bike.
Nothing beats the fun factor of a CR 500!!!
It’s a monster!!!
XR650R rules!
They’re both awesome bikes! Very different riding experiences.
@FlightinmyVeins I did not say anything about a CR500 in my previous comment; a CR500 is definitely faster than an XR650R. I currently own an XR650R and a CRF450R. I think my 450 is faster and my old CR250R was faster up to about 75 mph. My XR does not feel nearly as quick, but has a greater top speed of the 3 bikes.
you have no idea how awsome it was to stumble apon this video and know exactly where it was!!!!
I owned a 2001 CR500 and is crazy fast. I just bought a 2001 XR650R and as soon as I received it, I will race them against each other to see what happen. I'll give you the update later, take care.
how'd the test go between the bikes??
Lmao, no contest with the same gearing, cr500 approximately 50hp xr650 approximately 30hp
@Ian Mangham Honda XR650R is rated 61.2hp. What bike you looking at. Lol
@@ianmangham4570Sure you didn’t buy a 650L?
Gear the XRR so that it tops out at 65 and then see who wins. The peak hp of the CR500 is just a thin spike in comparison to the wide band monster torque of the XRR. Two very different bikes, if you want a reasonable comparison you need similar gearing. XRRs are built for 110mph across the desert, not 45 around small tracks. That said, CR500 is a legend in its own right.
Two great bikes, love it... 👍
You didn't read what I said my buddy spent all kinds of money on that motor the 650 that is and after he got it running he comes to me and says I'll kick your cr500 ass that's all
@@cr500af I did read what you said. Above 65 he whoops your ass. You hit 65 in what, 3 seconds maybe? So your title should actually read "CR500 barely manages to cling on to lead for 3 seconds before getting it's ass kicked by an XR650r". There are bigger and badder bikes out there than an XR650r, but the CR500 isn't one of them.
You do know they make gears for a CR to Right. The CR500 will smoke a 650R any way you want to play. Gear the 650 to do 65mph and get smoked short distance and drop a few teeth on the back of the CR and get smoked to 110. Bottom line the 2 bikes are not even close.
@jeffclark2253 Yep, and that's why the Cr500 won the Baja 1000 for every year it was manufactured by Honda.... ah wait , no that was the XR650R...
Two incredible bikes for different reasons but don't try to compare in the 1st three seconds of a straight line drag, completely pointless.
It won a desert race oh wow. Still is a gutless no power pig every where else. Bring one of them no power tanks to the drag strip single track woods or moto cross track hell any real racing and get smoked.
Its probably stock.... my dad beat my cr500 with his xr650 thats built
a lot of bucks in the motor but a stock exhaust on the 650? hm
bald 50/50 tire too
That is what makes them Fun!
@TheBluePills which one is faster of yours two, and what years and mod?
I ride a street legal cr500 in Washington state. Fmf gnarly and 41mm PWK. What a blast!
a street legal cr500? wow
dude get rid of the factory carb and put a fcr carb on it and it will smoke that 500 . my 650 smokes all of my buddys bikes 450s to kx 500. it freekin rips !
@vitaliyr1 The xr has 11.1 pistion all the intake mods stage 3 cam by xr onlys little porting the thing doesnt even come on till 4gear. My freind thought he could beat me every where i know that i cant beat him from 4 gear on he does have more top end.My cr500 is .40 over milled head the ports where just cleaned up it has a pwk 39.5 on it fmf gnarly wisco pistion it hits hard thats why he cant beat me out of the hole he did learn his leason about big bore towstrokes you cant mess beeeet them...
@avionicswirenut My bike is not geared for high speed its geared for low end out of the hole power and yes the knew 4 pokes loose the ass too.
is this at imi motorsports in dacono colorado? looks exactly like it...
@xr650man Ya 4 strokes are like tampons every pussy got to have one..........
@funguynstc That wasnt the point he said he was going to kick my ass on that bike stock pipe or not.....
Yes it is
I have not done it yet, but I'm pretty sure that the 500 will beat it. The thing that I like about the 650 is the torque. And as you already knows the 500 is crazy fast. I installed a Rekluse system on it and it's awesome. Thanks for asking and keep on riding.
Jose Diaz 650r is faster. The CR500 in this video is really a modern 450 with the old 500 swapped into it -- which means the engine almost certainly has different power valve, exhaust and sprocket. While the 650r in this video, still has the stock exhaust, and was on the 500's tail.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi 650r is nowhere near as fast as the CR500. In stock form the CR500 makes 60-63 hp depending on the year and the XR650R makes around 45 and is way heavier than the CR500. The only place the XR650R will beat a CR500 in stock for is in absolute top speed, but this is only because the 650 has higher gearing stock than most/all CR500s.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi Not to mention the CR500 could not have a "different power valve" because a CR500 does not have a power valve to begin with. While a power valve can be installed on one, it does not necessarily mean this 500 has one.
CR500 is a two stroke and it can't touch the top speed of a uncorked 4 stroke XR. Ones built for top speed and endurance the other is built for acceleration speed and blowing up after 5000 miles.
dolly drill A CR500 with higher gearing than stock will go over 100 mph. In terms of acceleration the CR500 will beat the XR650R assuming both bikes have ample traction. 4 strokes have slightly longer legs in general so an XR may be able to top out higher than the CR of both bikes are geared for maximum speed, but the CR is quicker and more powerful in stock form than even an uncorked XR. Both are fast bikes, but the CR500 is simply lighter and has more power.
ya im lookin for a 2smoke for a good second bike, they are fun but i would rather n
The gear box is much closer on the CR and that gives it the advantage.
There was a reason that Honda used XR650Rs in Baja. They make more power for starters. The 2005 XR650R makes 61HP stock. More than the CR500 ever made stock.
Cr500s make 65hp stock. XR650Rs are a better desert bike though
@xr650man And a 650 doesnt work that good for a track that well either and thats what my 500 was built for not to do 130 miles an hour i top out at about 65 he can kill me in top end. They are two differnt machines.
It's simple,stock cr 500 approx 50hp, stock xr 650 around 30hp, of course the cr is geared for the track but just by simply upping the front cog or lowering the rear you're gonna get easily over 100mph with the CR, i recall Eric Geboares and Jobe doing way over 120 on a beach with their big factory 2 banger 500s.
That's a 650r, not a 650l. The 650r has around 53 hp.
@u4mynuts well your friend was just dreaming then, a built xr650 might have stood a chance but a stocker wont
well, what if we have 2 and 4 strokes?
Yea, but you're on an very modded CR500. In fact, is that not a modern alluminum 450 frame? You went through the trouble to swap the engine, so I'm sure you've done work too it.
650 is stock looking. Even has the stock exhaust.
Stock for stock, the 650r kills the 500.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi crf250 frame 05
040 over pwk carb 39.5 fatty pipe that's it on the 500
Wrong way round. Stock for stock the CR500 kills the XRR. 45.2hp for an unmodded XR vs 53hp for the cr500. The cr500 is also significantly lighter.
@@dune7824 CR500 AB WERK 68PS . Wenn man die Strömungskanäle optimiert und den Motor innen Poliert , hängt der Motor regelrecht am GAS - GESCHÄTZE 75PS . Gewicht etwa 100kg.
Ich habe 2xCr500 und 1xCRF450.
@John Leslie ich hatte eine xr650 ;-) extrem hot und Ich habe 2x Cr500 aus 98 - wie kommst du darauf , Ich wäre nie gefahren . Mit 12Jahren fing Ich mit Trail an und hatte unzählige Bikes ! Alle aufgebaut , auch innen Motor getunnt , poliert .
4-takter sind grundsätzlich kacke !
2-Takter haben wenig bewegliche Teile - wankel Motor noch weniger Teile als ein 4Takter. 4takter ist ein industriemotor - 2takter und wankel sind echte erfindungen !
Ich wette Du hast nie 2zyl 2takt oder 4zyl 2takt gefahren ............4zyl 2takt sind jeden 4takt 4zyl überlegen - grundsätzlich . Ebenso verhält es sich beim Eintopf . 2takter siegt !
Ihr müßt mal eine XR übersetzung auf einer CR aufziehen und dann vergleichen - die CR zieht immer davon ;-)
@kunz82414 Man you don't know what your talking about.....The CR500 has a HP advantage over the 650R no matter how you gear them...the 500 wins. The 250 will lose quite badly to a 650R. I own a 650R and would never claim that it would beat a cr500. But i will claim that it will own a CRF450X and a KTM450SXF with similar gearing.
that's funny casue every red honda bleeding 4 stroke lover says that... funny enough most 2 strokes are more reliable then 4 strokes. no argument no excuses and no personal opinions or stories. take it to the bank
you need to read its not all stock
a lot of bucks on the xr hahaha i see a stock exhaust
Well looks like I found another vid to add to my favs lol
up to 75 mph, I think a CR250 would beat an XR650R
Isnt that about as fast as a cr250 can go?
@@josephkool8411 yea
ride a 650 desert racing any day, i dont like the grenade effect of a 2 stroke
HORSESHIT I KNOW BETTER IT AINT REAL DUDE ON XR WAS SANDBAGGING ...
you change gears so fast you didnt even get the motor in the high rpms lol suckish shifter
Have you ever ridden? His shifts were spot on and he didn't over rev the engine and he kept it in the power band. These big 500s aren't very zingy like the 250s either.
500s don't rev like 250s do. Shifts might have been a touch low, but they were in the powerband for sure. Just doesn't "sound" like it. 500s have a midrange like falling out of a tree, and a topend like falling off a bike.