THE REAL XL600R VS XR650 COMPARISON!
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Finally, someone said it. The 1980's dirtbikes were the best looking machines ever made. The colors, and the body lines, with that black paint on the engine, is just stunning.
Take a look at my 628r lol bet never seen one like it 🤟
@Jim Dandy 93 best model
Built . I have a old
Jim dandy tractor btw hence the name Jim dandy lol🤘
Hell yes I cant get enough of that Suzuki blue and yellow with the blue engines shit just looks so dope
Amen to that
You just said it... AMEN!
Man, this dude is America. God bless.
Hes not fat enough to be an American
Now that's the kind of president the America should have.
Instead of these recent ones, that are more a joke than a proper president.
Greetings from Finland!
@@MechaNick03 America is the 10th most obese country in the world.
@@ball7411 now only 12th.. WHAT IS HAPPENING....?
yep dumb ... 5 decades lol.
That '85 XL looks almost showroom condition,great job on the restore. The XL/XR's were bulletproof!! Run forever. I had a '84 XR350R was a great bike! Miss it.. it was a tractor and a tow truck... Towed a many bikes out of the desert and the mountains.. easy to ride. It's been said," Old XR's never die... They just get new owners"
Man I’ll take the 85’ every time, look how pale and sad the newer one looks.
I agree looks all happy and bright 🌞 old school
Vadim Kargin way better, and higher compression ratio too, uncork it and run good fuel, it’ll run off and leave the newer bike.
Dunno, both look kinda shit really. I'm an XT or DR guy though. Never got used to this modern style. Google the French Paris/ Dakar XT500.
Red Toberts I’m a big Yamaha fan too, I’d love to find a TT500
@@redtobertshateshandles is that the blue one ? Giant ass 12 gallon tank or something
Thanks for the video! I have the 1986 Honda XL600R... with the red, white & blue tank, gold-colored rims and Pro-Link. I am the third owner and I've had it since 2000. LOVE that machine!
Just bought a brand new 2019 about 3 months ago. I'm 43 years old, and have dreamed of owning one since my first encounter back in the 80's. What a dream come true.
Had a XR500 in 1989 on the Island of Cyprus...man what a bike...after nearly 40 years of it coming out it still looks fantastic,,,not much has evolved on it since because it was so good the first time...great vid my man
I turned 16 in 1985 ..rode a 1978 yamaha dt 175 for two months ..sold it ..bought a new 1985 Honda XL 600r ..I was in moto heaven...stop light racing every night ..river trail rides most every day ..it was a great summer...sealed the deal for my love of motorcycles for life ..now looking at a 1983 XL 600 37 years later ...great video as always thank you
The one from the 80's is an awesome looking bike. Loved the colors of the whole XR line from back in those days. I believe,,I may be wrong would have to read up on it..,,the newer XR650L actually has the old XR600r frame and suspension but with less hp. Newer CV carbs just don't compare to a pumper carb, but laws on fuel shutting off if wrecked is what changed that. What Honda really needs to do is bring back the XR650R in off road trim and in dual sport trim,,maybe call it a CRF650L? Fuel injection, a bigger tank, and not neutered from the factory. It would take a huge chunk out of the KTM690 enduro R which is what I ride right now. The KTM is fun but not nearly as reliable as my old highly modded DR650se or any Honda XR. I put over 3K in upgrades in the 2005 DR to make it the best dual sport it could be from full suspension, pumper carb, JE piston, big valve head, full exhaust, seat, bars, wide pegs etc. It was a beautiful bike when finished. Biggest downfall with the DR was the 17" rear rim as any off road capable bike should have an 18" for ground clearance and better tire selection. My DR was put in Bike World years ago for my build as it brought a lot of attention back in the day. It's still online if I search for it as I was still in the middle of the build engine wise. It was going to be the centerpiece for my channel. Unfortunately I cased it very hard on a public seasonal road. Even with the skid plate it wasn't enough. Smashed the frame, and engine cases. I did not wreck which I attribute to 40+yrs of riding and mostly due to the full aftermarket suspension which kept it in shape. Luckily Insurance covered and almost all upgrades as well being an actual county road. It cased on a big rock that was pushed up out the road out of sight over the top of a berm in the road when the suspension compressed. I was up on the pegs just cruising along around 50mph...Things can happen fast...Sorry wrote a book. Along with my beloved old 2 stroke bikes, 4 stroke enduros plated for the street are my favorite types of bikes even in my mid 50's. I will keep riding as long as I can and I'm sure Kaplan would agree with that.
Nobody does a better explanation of the differences and options of each bike!always nice to hear!
I had posters and brochures of that ‘85 Honda hung up in my room! To me it will always define what a dual sport bike should be. Great video 👍
Cousin had a 600r. There wasn't a minute that thing wasn't ripping WOT throttle through a creek, mud hole, field, or on the road. I ride GSXR's but will pick one of these up someday. They were fast for a kids bike for sure, but their reliability was phenomenal. Kids have no fear on a dirt bike and very little concern for maintenance, that's best endorsement I can give to these.
80`s were the bast years .
Most of the 80's bikes have been lost abused and scrapped shame really. The bikes at the classic shows are the same really old bikes getting even older
Wasn’t even born then and I agree 200%
Learned how to ride a clutch on my uncle's 350x
@dlucas90 I was born in 1980 but I'm sure I was lucky to see the end of an era . mk1 Granada's twin tub washing machines Morris marinas teachers still asulting us staying out till it got dark and parents not knowing where you are. Knowing everyone in you're road. Everyone in your class at school living in all the roads near too the school. Going around eachorhers houses just randomly seeing if there in. Much better times. Could of been borne sooner but then I would be even older
The 80’s were great but we are in a time of performance in the auto and bike market we never even dreamed of back then.
But we also have the prices to go with that performance!
I was offered a 1994 CBR900 for $7500 by the local dealer back in 1994! Now liter bikes are more than double that price!
Excellent comparison. Love your channel, who you are and what you stand for Ken.
Love the old XR’s XL’s👍🏻
Love the look of the older bike!
I just got a 1991 dr650 r and can't believe how much fun on road it is, and the sound from the open pipe is just so good!
Before I got it, I thought 650 single cylinder bikes like these, were mainly for off road,how wrong I was!
Love the riding position and the light weight of these bikes too.
I've had sport bikes, cruisers, and supermotos, my favorite bike is my 2006 xr650l. I can ride it anywhere. I like the 80's one better then the newer one though.
I just remembered my white XL600. Awesome, quality Japanese made trail bike. Nothing ever broke or stuffed up. Super design. And like the man says capable of around 100mph. Change the oil and clean the air filter. Easy to work on too. One minor complaint, the transition between the carb stages was noticeable, but mine was pre loved, so might have been OK when new. Single carb fan here.
Your carbs weren't right then, I had 2 XR500R's, both with dual carbs.
The 500 whooped on the 600's for some reason.
I'll put a proper XR500R up against any newer XR in a drag race.
The 500 will win.
Bro every time I think I’ve seen every great Kaplan America vid I see another gem like this . Keep making videos man great content god bless from a fellow New Englander.
This great video is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for making and uploading it.
Liking the mods you’ve done to the 650. Just installed the JNS headlight on mine, great upgrade! Might do that taillight next. Great comparison 👍
Kapp, your 18' XR650L is the same as the first one that came out in 1992 as a 93'! I had the 93' XR650L and loved it! I was a wheely king on that bike. Honda still makes a 21' bike and still hasn't changed.
Great video!!! I really do appreciate people like you taking the time and giving people knowledge. God Bless!!!
I've owned these exact 2 bikes. Loved them both. Thanks for the video!
Great, after seeing that, now I need an 85 XL600. Love your channel Kap!
54 years old here........still riding my 84 xl600 in the monza red.......still hooliganing on the damn thing ill never learn!!!! lol engine built by the motor manic jeff c himself what a blast they are dirt roads ,twisties you name it it loves it....using the blinkers on the trails ,beeping the horn as i pass the young bucs!!!hahaha too much fun!!! ride safe everyone!!!!
I love that you have these kind of videos. Both these bikes are cool.
Love the big XR content but it always reminds me of my stolen dream. When I was 10, my neighbor sat me on the front of the seat of his XR500 so I wouldn’t fall off and pulled effortless wheelies, at speed, on a pretty loose, sandy trail… I was hooked.
As a teenager, I saw a brand new XR600R on the showroom floor as I was buying parts for my ATC200S and vowed to own one someday. Fast forward to adulthood and I moved heaven and earth wheeling and dealing, gave up my beautiful, built 400EX and finally scooped up my XR600R. Couldn’t have been happier. Got married, moved and put it in the storage and two weeks later it was stolen. Since then I’ve not found one for sale in the Southeast, even if I did, with 5 kids I don’t have the time or the money anymore. Man I miss that machine, probably the only one I ever had an emotional attachment with.
Sorry for your loss. You have more kids but I understand the cost of having a family. My wife has major medical issues and it has cost us financially. We just moved to a new state cross country with better medical, economy, and cheaper cost of living. We have spent close to $20k moving and still have more that needs to be purchases such as second vehicle, etc.
I used to love riding my ATV as a teen, it has been 23 years since last time out riding. It was my life and have wanted a new machine since. I am thinking about buying something that needs some TLC to rebuild as a project this winter to resell for a small profit. Hopefully, I can find the time to do this a couple times and include the kids until we have enough for a nice machine. Due to having a family, I would like to have a 4-seat SXS since they are street legal in my state. However, I’d much rather have a 400EX or a XR400, perhaps even a Raptor 700. Then the issues is the kiddos and my wife are kinda left out.
We’re always saving for a house for then the housing bubble pops in the coming 1-3 years, whenever that is. I think that is more important.
I wish Honda would bring the XR650R back. I'd love to make one street legal. Looks so much better than the L imo.
Ya, I've seen, and riden, street legal xr650r's before. My buddy bought one brand new, in 2003, I got to ride it, such a badass motorcycle! I don't know why Honda stopped producing them. They're a dime a dozen in California. You're going to pay anywhere between 6k-11k, for the bike, because they're no longer made anymore.
@@mr.fancypants698 The 2003 xr650R is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT bike than the older "xr600R" or "xr650L" depicted in this video.
The 2000-2008 XR650"R" (not "L" ) has different frame (all aluminum) - different engine (water cooled) - Different front forks (comparable in performance to the most expensive in today's market) no battery (kick start only).
Probably THE BEST dual sport ever made!
@@TM-529
Ya man, I know. That's the bike that my buddy had, and I got to ride it. That's why I was saying, Honda needs to make those bikes again! Cheers!!!🍻 😁👍✌
Mine is street legal just bought one that one slipped i never added the lights cause fuck it hand signals
@@TM-529 I owned a street legal xr650r for several years, and think it's way overhyped. My KTM 525 exc was better in every respect (better tranny, lighter, handled better, easier to work on, and a comparable motor). Any of the modern euro 500s are far better bikes. For that matter, a well sorted xr650l or dr650 can be built into a more enjoyable all around dual sport.
I’m nearly 50, I’d take the 85’
Man, I'm 66, I'd trade in my crf250l for either one !
56 and the new 650 is a little to heavy. I have sat on all the new bikes 250/450 and they are all basically the same height.
Im 52, and own an 01 XR650R. Blow them both out of the water lol. Still like the lines of the old bike though.
THIS IS GREAT! THANKS FOR UPLOADING!
That's a beautiful '85. I had an '87 when I was 13. Raced around the Nevada desert on that bike and loved it!!! I'd take either bike, but do love the looks of the '85. The '87 I had, had more white on it, but still near identical. Where ever did you find that '85? It is in incredible condition. Very timeless looks indeed. Thanks for sharing!! Brings back some great memories.
Mad respect to you for having 2 fantastic machines
I had a 86’ XR 600 and it was a wicked bike . I put motocross knobby tires on it and it would absolutely fly on fire roads or old logging roads and was very comfortable as well . The only drawback was it was a little too big for tight bush trails and the smaller two strokes could put maneuver me ,but I would always catch up when the trail opened up . It was also great on hill climbing, the low end torque of that big thumper would climb almost effortlessly.
I loved this,, the older one does look sharp enjoy this weekend everybody!
Ken i had a XR 600 89 few years back, white bros exhaust , loved that bike so much, great old horse and much fun, Also had a 81 XL 100 when i was about 10 years old. Great memories. God Bless Kaplan America.
Ken, I love these comparisons. Maybe make it a once a week feature.....
I have the little brother. 1985 XL250R. Great bike. Some people hated the twin carb set up. Mine is mainly stock with aftermarket muffler (Cobra). Amazing that after 5 decades so much is very simular. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the thorough comparison!
Thanks for the comparison video guys!
But you gotta love the old school 🤙
Nice. Had an 83 Xl600 in the 80s. Awesome bike.
Great Video JR & SR. 2 awesome machines right there!
I got a good deal on a very clean 85. I put a new ricky stator in it, adjusted the valves and carbs, new chain & sprockets, tires/tube. Starts in 1 kick every time. I absolutely love it, but I can't stop anywhere without someone offering me money for it.
This guy does a great job presenting these bike's !!! Wish I knew where he gets all the parts to restore the older Honda XR'S........ 👍👍👍
You never disappoint brother....excellent comparison. 🤘💯
I had a 1985 XL600 when I was in high school (1990)
Excellent video and comparison there, Wolverine. Love your stuff from Barber btw. Just found your channel.
Great review! I picked up a 2018 XR650l not too long ago. Love the old school feel. It's a fantastic bike.
What an awesome video, first class, would love to see more of these.
Had the 85 xr600r. That bike never let me down. Man I miss that bike. That 85 Xl600 in this video is amazing.
Awesome video! Old school color looks best I think, esp the one that had gold rims back in the days. Alot of dad's hated me when I got one finally, daughters wantin to go for rides lol good ole days
I had the 1985, loved that bike. Had a super trapp can on it, ran strong. That kick start did fight back often times leaving me bruised and limping but I was a lot younger then.
Try kick starting one when you are 13 years old. Anyone that says they start easy are full of it. Mine had the decompression release, but you had to be careful and use it right, or it would come back and bite you.. GREAT old bikes though.
I agree with you 💯 percent. I had a '81 XL500S that I explored Washington state with back in the late 80s. What a great do it all bike. Even though I have a KTM RXC 620, 950 ADV and 1190R. I wish I still had that Honda!
I had both, 85 , and my current 01. Kinda my faves. Love em.
Im getting me one soon! CANT WAIT!
I had the 1985 XL 350. Super bike! Loved to trail and street ride on it. I think the 85's look better than the new ones.
This video makes me feel wealthy, cause I owned them both, and the xr600r! I owned an 85 xl600r, it looked exactly like the one in your video.
Had a 2003 650l, I’m digging the XL. Great videos with many bikes I loved growing up, would love to visit one day 👍🏁
Just ran across this channel or page or whatever it's called, and so glad I did , my first bike was a 1977 XR75, in 85 I bought Honda's first quad trx 250 and in 88 I bought my XR600 , then I bought a 94 Harley Davidson Fat Boy , 2003 Honda RINCON 600 quad ( my buddy's son totaled for me) and last but not least 2018 Honda Rubicon Forman Deluxe 500 , loved every one of them 👍
Nice bike great info as always
Just found your channel. That 600 has loads of character!
Kaplan cycle saying his daily is an xr650! Prices are gonna go up!
Cool video! Love those old bikes and I’ve been thinking of getting an enduro. This video helped me make my decision. Thanks
I had a brand new 83 xl600r and then a 84 xl600r and then for many years had no bike and 3 years ago i bought another 83 xl600r and love it my son got a 83 xr500r street legal and we ride together. excellent video thanks.
Awesome review that would sum up any questions about comparing any of the 600Rs with another between the yrs. I do remember when the mid 80s xl350 came out that it had a major piston to valve issue or something to valve issue. Because the motor is basically identical to the 600, I've always stayed away from them. From what i hear the honda 600 or 650 are extremely dependable and very competitive in off rd racing. Great information and thanks. The 1986 cr125 would be a great one to cover. Pretty much any Honda that I know of especially the 80s cb750ss, the cb900ss, 250R four wheeler. So many great honda machines from the 80s
I admire your passion.. Thank you so much for your contribution, i love watching your vids and learning about it all ;-)
Tough to beat any of the Japanese 650's whether Honda, Suzuki, or Kawasaki.
and Undoubtedly YAMAHA.
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I used to meet up with a guy on the road to college almost every morning back in the mid eighties. We both always cut it close for time. I was on a Triumph Bonneville 750 and he was on a Honda 600 single. He could pull away from me with ease.
I love Japanese big bores, but a Husaberg FE650 is a superior bike
Awesome video great job. I look forwards to more comparison video's
Such a great presentation
Nice! Love the comparison! Jjust saw this, Fantastic! Always wanted to now that 1 myself! Thanks and God Bless America!
Nice work Jr.
The XL is timeless in every way brotha. Great video 👍
For sure the 80’s were Super Cool, had an XR500...and many other Dirt Bikes...how can you not have a soft spot for an X-Ahhh...this video’s makes me feel warm all over! Thanks Captain, love your CZcams channel and of course you and your crew!!! Long Live MX 338 “The Wick” Colin’ at ya from the new mountain bike capital of the world Northwest Arkansas!
Thank you brother back at you ML&R
i got an '83 xl200r not too long ago, first motorcycle, absolutely love it!!
I had an 87 XL 600 and I rode the shit out of that bike. Bullet proof.
I’m happy to say I own the second to last 2007 XR650R East of the Mississippi.
Have I ever rode it? Just up the block once a Year. It’s never seen dirt, rain, mud, snow. Complete mint and turn key.
AND ITS MINE! ALL MINE! NEVER FOR SALE!!!! HAHAHAHA
I bought an 85 brand new. Still have it and it looks like the day I brought it home. If you can't kick start it, you shouldn't be able to ride it. USA-1
Wonderful motorcicles , furious machines, very ,very beautyful machines !!! I ❤ 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Great comparison thank you. I must say, I love the 80’s model the best. But I’d take a new one for sure.
Love that "85" Great video!
I miss my 1983 XR500Rs. I was trying to remember what was different- why they felt smaller than the 650L I had recently- a lower seat height and 17 inch rear wheel made it seem easier to handle on tight trails most likely and I'm sure it weighed less. I think even my XR350R had a slightly higher seat heat but was still a sweetheart. I even test rode an XR650R and I liked it but it seemed very top heavy on the steep tight trails.
Drag race...Jr vs Sr.!!!
It's on like Donkey Kong
my money's on the old girl
Jr for the whole shot
Nothing in it. Put in starting time, the new bike is streets ahead.
@@redtobertshateshandles My 84 XL600R starts 1st kick every single time. I've timed it against an electric start XR650L and IF the 650L fires right up it might be 10' in front of me, otherwise it's a toss up.
I just bought a 1984 xl 600r, a beast
New camera? Video looks awesome 👌
Great video!
Love seeing the old XR/XLs! Have you had any of the 650R's in recently? The liquid cooled XR. I'd love to see Senior rippin around on an uncorked "big red pig"
I had 2003 XR 650R what a beast and so easy to kick start
My mate had a 98 XR 400, brilliant bike he did change the oil for 2 years and it still run like a dream. Just a pig to start when it was hot. My 650R you could start with trainers on.
Liquid cooled 650XR ? Really !! Omg ...
Senior is Larry? Definitely need to see more of Larry rippin' it up!!!
Kaplan America baby!!
I just picked up a 650L. Really happy with this bike.
You would be hard pressed to find a better deal then the 2020 XR650L at a $7,000 price point brand new compared to any other bike in or out of its class (air cooled, four stroke, steel frame, street legal 650). From what I've come to understand back in the mid 80"s, the XR600R was the trail bike variant of the XL600R street bike. The XR was a little different from the XL, the XR had more torque and horsepower at lower RPM then the XL also more height and wheel base. The XL600R was a really good bike but the XR was was better and during that time the thing to do was make the XR street legal vs buying the XL. The XR600R was the winning Baja machine of its time until the XR650R water cooled trail bike came along and it commenced to kicked ass for years. The 1993- 2020 XR650L is not like the XL600R of its time a one off variant of a trail bike it turns out that the XR650L is the XR600R of the mid 80's just corked up with street legal goodies and a different top-end taking it out to 644cc to offset the goodies. The frame of the XR650L is the same as the XR600R and most of the engine parts, in fact the kick starters from the XR600R and the XL600R can be installed on the 1993-2020 XL650R. Don't quote me though all of this info is off the top of my head. Great CZcams channel Kaplan is one of my favorites.
Very interesting video, thanks for taking the time to make it....Back in 1983 I bought a brand new Honda XL 600 and really loved that bike.... Then in 1986 I bought a brand new Yamaha XT 600 which did not feel as powerful as the Honda...
Great video man. I miss my 1986 Honda Xr600R with gold rims
Man great video I have a xr650l 1996 model and i love It, I have always wanted to know alot of info that you gave un this video between this 2 amazing machines, congrats you make great videos Bro
Love the graphics on the 80s Honda's
Very nice comparison thx. I’ve got a couple buddy’s they have been riding the XL 600 both of em are big guys and the 600 was a beast in the woods or on the logging roads.
Thanks for the review of the Japanese Honda XL . I had a 250 S . Dual shock model. Not just USA but the World 🌍🌎🌍🌎 over & over. A friend had the 500R which I could stay right beside most of the places we could go. Love the review bro.
i have a 1984 xl600r,had it for 20 years,had a few stators in that time plus cam chains.3.as long as you can start it its fine.
I had the original 1982 xl500r mono shock I bought new from the show room that started this line. It was a great bike and had a round headlight. Way better looking. Wish I still had it.
I love your videos!!
Man , love the show. Was hoping to see you ride the xr650l.
I love America
I had a 1986 XR600R, twin carbs and all that jazz. You could sit on the gas tank and torque the front wheel up into the sky. The only issue was that you NEVER gave it gas when kick starting it. IT KICKED BACK! My buddy broke his foot kick starting it.
But it was a fun bike. I was in Navy flight school at the time and stomping the Suntide riding area just north of Corpus Christi, TX. Great bike. My favorite memory is riding behind my buddy's XR600R with his left hand in the air, like a rodeo rider. He neglected to safety-tie his grip and it came off in a section of whoops.
I bought an early release XR650L in '92 while stationed in El Paso. Another good bike. Probably the best forks on a XR ever. I kicked the asses of some Army noobs on their fancy KX two strokes.
BRAAAAAP!!!!