Honda XR650L - 11 Things to Consider Before Buying WATCH NOW!!
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Don't get me wrong, the Honda XR650L is an awesome bike. But there are a few things you need to know before buying an XR650L. In this video I chat about the things I've learned during the last few months that I've owned the Honda XR650L.
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Check out adventurebiketroop.com/xr650l for a post on the things I love and hate about my Honda XR650L.
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I've mentioned some aftermarket products for the Honda XR650L which yo can find below:
Acerbis 5.8 gallon gas tank: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Replacement CDI unit: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
FritzCo front sprockets: procycle.us/product/2025
Warp 9 cush-drive hub: www.thecyclehouse.com/warp-9-...
XR's Only cooling fins: www.xrsonly.com/parts-categor...
2:32 #1 - No cush-drive
4:11 #2 - Counter shaft wear
5:23 #3 - Lots of chain slack
6:56 #4 - One-piece frame
7:59 #5 - Air-cooled
9:30 #6 - Lean jetting
10:47 #7 - Small gas tank
12:39 #8 - No luggage rack
13:39 #9 - Wiring chafing under triple-clamp
14:30 #10 - CDI issues
15:57 #11 - Tall seat height - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Air cooled is not a down side dude. It is a huge bonus as it makes a super simple and reliable engine. No water pump, water leak, radiators to get leaks. And no over heating is not a risk or problem. These were designed and ran in the deserts of baja Mexico at full tilt and over heating wasn't an issue.
Thanks for the reassurance, Randy! The only air-cooled thumper I've owned was the old XT500 (oh, and a DR750Big, but didn't have that one for long). My KLRs' cooling systems never gave any issues. But I hear you. I guess as long as you maintain it properly (oil changes, valve clearance and proper jetting)? I love the simplicity! Have ridden some air cooled road bikes on very long trips without issue too.
Randy knows
The only possible issue is, as it's a dual sport, sitting in traffic. If youre in heavy traffic, you're not moving and you may overheat as there isn't any air flowing over the cooling system, which is where liquid cooling becomes superior. Most have no issues with the air cooling though
@@youcefbelhacene3831 Sorry but that is no issue with the XR650L. It has a built into the frame oil reservoir that turns the whole frame into a giant heat sink. Keeping the engine cool. Honda are not idiots, nor has a bike that has been for sale since the 90s and known to be one of the most reliable bikes made have any issues with heat.
@@Randy_Cox no need to be sorry, I agree with you. as I said, thats an issue that may push people away from it, but in my personal experience and according to everyone who rides one, its a non issue. The XR is for sure my favourite bike. cheers mate
I had an old xl 600 thumper, could flog it in the bush all day & never had any problems with air cooled engine. My boys on the other hand had smaller water cooled, high reving bikes that I had to rebuild when they blew up. Air cooled thumpers forever.
Yes!!! That's great to hear!
Same here, XR500, XR600, never had heating problems. But with the water-cooled bikes you need to worry about plumbing, or holes in the radiators, or fluids to low.
I been riding them since the 90s. Incredible, durable tough bike! Ridden them hard in the dirt, done many jumps with them. By far the best! The only slight problem i have, is the weight of it. I'm 5'6 160lbs so it's quite a big bike for me but i still kick ass on it!
Yeah, it is a lovely bike and I may be starting to fall in love with it. I am not experienced in the dirt, and the weight is a bit much for me. Just need to get over it and get better.
Thats a heck of a bike to shred on with those stats! 👍 Im not a big guy either at 5 10 and 210lbs and consider the XL650 a horse to hop on, but will admit its always been a light on its feet bike when up and moving (hardpack and outta whoops 😊)
I had a boss that was short but he was an excellent rider.
Yes, I’m 5’7” 165lbs and can handle my CR250 quite well so I’d say this bike would be just right for me too…just bought mine and it’s on its way. Height shouldn’t be an issue…don’t let others discourage you.
Been riding mine for years I'm 6ft 1 and it kicks my ass so top-heavy it was brand-new but and now it looks like a piece of pizza... I have a sticker on it ,,,, dirt worshiping treehugger
I scheme this is still the best bike ever to come out of Japan. Still love mine 10 years later and had a blast of a ride yesterday.
It took me a while to realize it, but I'm loving mine more every day
30yrs ago had a XL350R. Overheated on the beach southern end south stradbroke island no compression next day. Started up. Ran fine no issues
I’ve owned this bike most of my life 😊
I had one 3rd year they made it, I drove it to work which was 19 miles down country road. It served me well.
Fantastic video! As a now 20 year owner (purchased new in 2002), I can attest to the veracity of the issues you outline, every single one of them. They are all, however, relatively easy and for the most part inexpensive (sometimes free) to correct. In order, I have never missed having the cush drive, and I only run XR650R countershaft sprockets. The slack in the chain quickly goes unnoticed, it's just a by product of all of that suspension travel. I've done my level best to break the rear subframe and have not yet succeeded, despite some spectacular crashes when heavily loaded. Air cooled / too lean? You already found the answer - Dave's mods. The jetting recommendations need to be adjusted for your local altitude and climate. Play with it and you'll get it right. I love my six gallon Acerbis tank, even though it makes the bike even more top heavy when full. I take extended wilderness trips, so its added range (I can go 240 miles) is appreciated. Moose Racing makes a great rear rack, but you do need to give up that little tool kit. I put a Moose Racing bag on the front fender instead. I think you are right in that the pinched wiring loom is not a common problem - mine isn't. Honda have fixed the CDI box quality problems in the last few years. After replacing them seemingly annually for the first few years, my newest one is now five years old, purchased from Honda. It's possible I just got lucky, but others report the same. And "tall"? Of course. That's part of why we buy them. That said, at 6'1" with a long for my height inseam to boot, I found it impossible to "dab" on technical single track. An adjustable Soupy's lowering link fixed that, and being adjustable, it takes minutes to go back to full height for some open desert type bombing.
So, yes, my experience confirms that the issues you raise are certainly real. The "known fixes", however, are not expensive nor difficult. Once completed, the bike becomes far more enjoyable and "user friendly". I would encourage you to work your way through them as so many of us have. You won't regret doing so. Have fun on your "Big Red Pig"!
Thanks for the awesome and comprehensive comment!! I appreciate it. I still regret selling the XR and would love to own (and properly mod) one again one day. I just love that Honda still sells primitive and simple platforms like the XR new today. Cheers!!
@@GreaseAndGravel Yeah, it was funny - no sooner had I submitted my comments than the next video suggestion popped up, and I saw that you had sold it! Oh well, with all of the subscribers and views your channel gets, maybe my comments will help someone. Or, like you say, maybe there is another "Big Red Pig" in your future. Too bad is appears somewhat difficult to equip and support one down in your corner of the planet - I guess I often lose sight of how spoiled we are, here in the U.S., where we take such things for granted. Have fun on your new bikes, and ride safe.
@@4570duplex Thanks man! Yes, they only sold the XR here for a few years and Honda has to order everything from Japan. It's only Amazon that really ships to SA, so parts are a problem. That said, I would still love to ride an XR again some day (once I've honed my dirt riding skills a bit more). Thanks again for the comments.
After having no success at finding a used xr650 in my area, I lucked into an ‘89 nx650, and I’m glad I did. It seems a more refined bike to me. It has a tach, a larger tank, a true dual exhaust, a lower front fender with a fork brace, a proper luggage rack, and the seat height is just over 34”. The previous owner swapped out the carb for a Mizuni, thus eliminating the issues with the stock carb. I couldn’t be happier with how it handles the terrain in the north cascades, where I live, and it’s plenty comfortable at highway speeds, as well.
I've never ridden the NX Dominator... but from what you describe it seems like it has everything I miss on my XR650L. Thanks for sharing!
I had a nx boy I wish I never got rid of it
Awesome and informative video. Thanks man!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback
awesome video, thanks for pointing it out clearly.
Thanks for the reply! :)
I have an XR650L and I had issues with starting too, after a CZcamsr suggested the Pulse Generator can fail over time with heat, I replaced this first as it was the cheaper option over the CDI unit and lucky for me no more starting problems. This did mean removal of engine case on clutch side but with care it was very easy to replace. Finally we here in Australia cannot buy the 650L new, Honda stopped selling them in 2008...have no idea why, as they are still popular in the second hand market. All the best in your adventures.
Thanks for the support, Jim. Yeah, here in SA they also stopped the XR650L many years ago (not long after my 2012). That's why I had to have one when I saw this one. Thanks for the info on the Pulse Generator. I think my problem is still jetting-related.. there is no difference in idle speed if I turn the mixture screw, so I thing the pilot may be wrong size. It starts, but always needs a few cranks. I will definitely keep that in mind though! Cheers and enjoy!
Now that’s a great machine and well described, great vid ✌🏾
Thanks, man. I appreciate it!
@@GreaseAndGravel Great information on this bike, what bike would you recommend that is most reliable and affordable to run in the 650cc range?
Thanks for the video!
Cheers!
Great video! Thank you for making it. I have a 650L and enjoyed watching this. I am glad that you mentioned the "height" at the end. I too was surprised at how high the bike sits. This makes climbing some things more challenging. My wife has an XR200 and I almost enjoy her bike more for climbing tough trails because I can touch the ground much easier. And I TOTALLY agree about the range that this tank brings you!!! You cannot go very far before that tank goes empty. Great video! Stay safe riding out there!
Thanks man, I appreciate it! Yeah, it was too tall for technical terrain. I never felt comfortable. Also, for spinning around, my legs was fully extended and I fell a lot. I can imagine that an XR200 is perfect. Keep well!
You didn't complain about it being heavy. Good on ya👍🌲
😂Thanks! Compared to the other 650 singles, this bike feels much lighter. There's lots that I love about it 😁
To be fair, of the 'big three' japanese 650 singles, this IS the lightest... It's only slightly heavier than a tank :D heh heh
thanks for the imfo💯
Great informative video. Thx
Glad it was helpful!
I did Dave's mods carb mod to my 08 BRP. I also added an FMF pipe (retained factory header), removed smog pump and replaced w/ baja smog kit, changed out front sprocket from 15 to a thicker 14 teeth..and the difference is very noticeable...it went from being a Japanese sewing machine to being a real 650! After getting it back together from carb mod and sprocket swap, within first minute of test ride I gave her a little to much welly, and spun the back tire on the rim effectively shearing off the valve stem, so be careful of that...and of front wheel wanting to come up while accelerating into a leaning turn! That bike is a monster. I love it!
Thanks, Rick! Great to hear you are enjoying the bike and that the mods made an improvement. I did the same, apart from the FMF. The torque on this bike is addictive. Which jet sizes did you use and are you at sea level? And is that FMF pipe much louder than the stock one?
@@GreaseAndGravel hello! I did the Dave's mods following the guidance from one_terrabike how to 4:01 video to the letter, with 158/55 jets, and drilling vent holes to 5/32 i believe it was. The FMF pipe is MUCH louder. Much louder, deeper BRAP sound like the xr 75s we used to ride as kids (compared to the rin tin tinny sounds of our friend's yz 80s.) I love it! I bought the 2008 xr650 in 2017 with only 1100 miles on it. It is a beauty! I'm right at about a thousand feet elevation, and the 158/55 is absolutely perfect. No more missing out (throttle hesitation) or slow throttle response like before. I like your tire lock idea. I'm going to do that for sure. Thanks and have a great week!
@@rickshaw6198 Thanks for the info... yeah, then the FMF won't work here. The neighbors will come after me! I am glad to jetting worked out well for you. I think I've got mine dialed in as well now. Cheers man, have a good one!
Love my XR 400r has no problem keeping up with the pack I'm lugging hills that 450s and two strokes are screaming on I like the 650 but I'd have to go with the 600r, every 600r or 650r is wicked but the best I think is the 1986 Scott summers edition XR 600r Kaplan America has the cleanest one I've ever seen. The 600r or 650r has everything you wished the L does and is still great dual sport bike XR rider to the casket 💯💪 best bike Honda ever produced
Very good points. Thank you
Thanks Benny, Let me know if you buy one!
Nice video, quality content!
Thanks man, I appreciate it! I see you've also got an XR👊
I've had most of the 650 Singles, and what I noticed is they(at the end of the day, after chasing all the mods online) Run better stock, smoother less vibration. There i said it, LOL, thanks for the video
Hi have to agree with you. I love doing mods and stuff of these bikes, but you have to imagine that the Japanese engineers had some idea of what they are doing. Funny thing is, as much as I love doing mods on my bikes, I prefer buying a stock standard one.
Ive had 2 XR650Ls They run MUUUUUUUCH better with the smog delete kit, porper jetting, uni FILTER and a quAlity slip-on pipe. MUUUUUUUCH BETTER
@@SASQUATCH205 Did you dyno the bike Before & After to prove it?
Us human beings are extremely subjective and emotional commodities, I've seen it a 1000 times where where a little extra noise from the intake and exhaust Thoroughly convinces owners that their bike or car is making way way more power.
But if you looked at it on a Dino chart Before & After many times it's the same or just a little bit more and sometimes worse.
I can't Remember if the 650LI had was modded or not, But I had the older XR 600 L and oh and Yamaha XT 600, and they did not run any better than stock with jetting a pipe etcetera.
@@SASQUATCH205 I agree. I have a 2007, I had it "de-corked" and put on a Pro Circuit Type 496 exhaust system. It's lighter & definitely runs better.
@@7x779 the bike runs better with proper jetting, the bike (most bikes) comes from the factory running very lean to pass bullshit emissions test, this is not what honda wants, it's what they HAVE to do, if you think a bunch of worthless crap stopping up the engine makes it run better, you don't know anything about engines, please don't spread ignorance.
Great and informative review!!! Great bike! I am also searching for the xr650l in good condition.... Now riding 250cc dual sport... Thanks 👍☺️ for sharing the info with us!! Hello from Ukraine!!
Thanks for the comment, Andrew. It is an awesome bike. Hope you find a good one!
thank you.excellent facts.
Thanks, Bill!
best bike dual sport EVER...
I am loving it more each day!
@Adventure Bike Troop
I just watched and commented your ‘Tenere 2nd Best’ vid with it’s “surprise” ending, but you didn’t tell me you’d done this very informative one - glad I found it!
BTW - That 2003 Africa adventure film was pretty amazing - thanks again!
Thanks for the feedback, Bryan! Yeah, I did that T7 vid shortly before I got the XR (I've already struck the deal by then). And since this vid, I've fallen more in love with the XR650L. That Desert Riders Project was epic!
@@GreaseAndGravel
I’ve got it boiled down to XR650 vs DR650. Now I’ve got to figure out how to get a few minutes of seat time to compare. And it is the seat height “issue” that’s mostly hanging me up. My inseam is less than 29” so wouldn’t you know that the bike I really want was built for NBA stars! The highway speed thing is also a bit of an issue. I would like to be able to cruise at 70-75mph (110-125kph) on the way to the woods.
I put a "kouba link " on mine and lowered the forks as much as possible. I have a 30" inseam. It's now doable, barely.
It's been a good bike and hasn't hurt me too bad.
Thanks for the info on the link system. I'm getting used to the height now. Still dropping it though. It is a great bike!
Watching you dump it was funny, I’ve had a number of tipovers on tight trails, once it starts to go just let it go, to heavy to fight it.
I've done it so many times... at least I get to practice picking it up :)
I have dropped mine so many times I can pick it up like a bicycle now.💪 the wire loom on my 2015 is routed the same.
Lol, yeah... me too! That's interesting. I wonder why mine chafes there.
Thank you so much for the heads up on all those points very informative I'm at the point of trying to decide between the DR or the XR
It depends on what you want to do with the bike.. but if you plan on any type of touring or moto camping, I'd take the DR. I've never owned one, but I've heard they are awesome.
@@GreaseAndGravel I've watched some reviews on them and they talk about a oiling problem something about the excessive cam wear because there's no cam bearings up top I guess on the inside of the covers causing it to wear through the covers or whatever. And then there was some talk about recommending an external oil cooler and the only other comments I recall is the super soft suspension which I'm assuming bottoms out easy I'm a big guy 300 plus pounds and I'm not looking to moto it , just taking it with me camping to ride the trails but I do like the daily commute every now and again with it too oh and the other thing was I heard that the tires they come with are terrible like in grass or anything like that. In the video the guy was showing where it kept fishtailing on him real easy I could only assume just not aggressive enough tread like you would have on your traditional dirt bike but yeah it's been a tough call I like both of them the one that concerns me the most about the XR is that output shaft and spline where they look pretty sloppy and the chain slap at low speeds etc don't mean to ramble thanks again for your video is extremely informative I just got to make a decision on which one I'm going to go with
@@yankotactical1134 Yeah, I am not sure about the oiling issues. I've heard that they are fairly bullet proof if you maintain them properly. I do know that a lot of riders don't check the oil level properly (it is quick finicky). I think if you check and change the oil frequently and keen the CS sprocket lubed and the chain adjusted properly, it will last a long time. The sloppy chain is annoying at anything other than riding hard (due to long travel suspension). For what you want to use it, I think the DR is a better choice. Check this couple riding around the world for the last 10+ years on DR650's: www.pikipikioverland.com/
@@GreaseAndGravel thank you sir take care
Always wanted one, but it was never sold in Europe. I had a 650 Dominator, did a tour in Morroco, then a few years later, went down from Switzerland to Gambia, 2 up. Bike had a big tank + 20l of fuel jerrican + 10l of water. Overall troubles, 2 rear shoks, that's it! Those honda engines are bullet proof.
Ride safe and have fun.
Great commentary
Thanks, Timothy!
It's true, the bike has it's shortcomings. But it's a lot of fun for the $. It's also easier to wrench on then most "modern" bikes.
I agree 100%! That's why I've always wanted one. The simpler the better. My only concern on any trip is reliability and being able to get moving again if something breaks down.
@@GreaseAndGravel If you follow this guy on instagram (dirtybmc) he has taken his across parts of Africa with no oil cooler and made 16,000 miles on the bike with his starter being the only mechanical failure besides flats. Also I have a oil temperature gauge on my xr and I run shell rotella 5w40 with a little lucas oil additive and the highest I have ever seen my oil temp get is 225 and that at cruising at 55 to 60mph. I personally think people freak out over this thing not having an oil cooler but in my opinion it seems to be a gimmick
@@WOLFZEIT_ I think may riders overthink it (me included). I checked out the dirtybmc, awesome stuff he's doing!
Good Information 👍
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Buying this bike next week. Show room condition 2002... extremely hyped after watching this video! Air cooled is a plus btw you kook!
Thanks for watching. Enjoy that XR! It is a great bike and I agree... aircooled is a plus. I just bought a 2006 GSA :)
You've pretty well nailed the week points of the XR650L. With mine, I changed 1] Countershaft sprocket with a Fritzco sprocket, 2] went with a Seat Concepts seat cover and foam, to fix the uncomfortable stock seat, 3] put on an Acerbis 5 imperial gallon fuel tank to get decent fuel range, 4] installed subframe supports so I could put throw on soft panniers and sleeping bag, 5] run very high quality motorcycle spec [JASO MA2] full synthetic 20W-50 oil to offset small oil capacity and high heat of the package, 6] Did Dave's Mod on carb and reusable air filter, mainly to fix less than perfect throttle control and bad starting.
Thanks, Steve! Those are also on my list. I didn't know about the oil though... I must admit I don't read up too much on that due to the many opinions online... but I will definitely check it out.
@@GreaseAndGravel For sure. Oil use is a high priority on engines that place high demand on oil. I'm in Western Canada, where there are 2 oil testing bodies covering oil types here. API, [American Petroleum Institute] and JASO [Japanese Oil Standard Organization]. The oil you should look for to run in your XRL are API spec SG, JASO MA, or JASO MA2, and run 20W-50. I run Amsoil full synthetic ester 20W-50 which is tested JASO MA2, the highest category use covering wet clutch, and full gearbox/engine lubrication, perhaps the highest demand engine category an oil must run under. I often run my '08 to work commute in summer, 32-36C, full throttle, full throttle for 5-10 minutes sometimes to keep up with crazy highway traffic here, 150-155kms, pinned, pretty well top speed for my bike. No problems, 22,000 kms, does not burn oil. There are other JASO MA2 oils out there, full synthetic is the best for extreme use, able to flow cold and hot at close to the same levels.
Fritzco yes
Cannot decide on Dave's or the Dynojet kit.
@@albertandrews130 dave's mods for sure
Thanks bro
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You did your research! Now, what about a GOOD after market chain tensioner?
Great video and great points. I did a lot of research and side by side comparisons between the Honda XR650L, KLR650 and DRZ650 before buying. I've always been a Honda guy but was open minded. Ultimately I bought a new XR650L two years ago and chose it because it better fits my riding style than the other two because it's more off-road capable and lighter. I'm about 80% off-road and 20% on-road adventure style riding. I immediately swapped the front sprocket for the Fritzco sprocket, added a skid plate and swapped the tank for a Clarke 4.7 gallon translucent tank so I can see the fuel level but other than those changes it's 100% stock. Love the bike. Far more power than I need, far more top end speed than I need and with the larger tank I have more range than I can stand to ride without stopping. It's very comfortable to ride and I took it on a couple longer trips last summer with no problems. The longest trip was 6 days at 1,072 miles and it was bullet proof off-road, on-road, freeway, you name it, the XR650L ate it up. Very comfortable on trails, at low speeds and at freeway speeds. Need a little more kick in the back side??? Just roll the throttle a little more and it's there.
I'm with you Craig. It is an awesome bike! I'm just waiting for my Fritzco's to arrive. Then all I need is a larger tank. I also like the translucent tanks. Looks cool and is useful to see fuel level. I currently also mostly ride in the dirt, and if I do go out of town I don't mind doing 60-65 mph (which I do comfortably even with the 14t CS sprocket). The small tank is just a PITA. I haven't gone on longer trips yet.
The torque is addictive :) I think for someone that rides 50/50 (road/dirt) and longer distance, the KLR is a great option, as you don't need any mods from stock. Rode mine as is on multiple two-week trips... only did the rear shock once it wouldn't stand upright on its own anymore. But the mods are part of the fun. Did you keep the gearing standard?
@@GreaseAndGravel Glad you are getting out for longer trips no matter which bike you ride. They are all very capable in their own right. Just getting out and going is what it's all about. The small group I ride with all ride DRZ400's or KTM's. I was looking for smiles/$ so price was a factor plus they have been making them for a long time so they've worked out the bugs and there are plenty of aftermarket parts available. I know some people complain about that they haven't changed them but to me that shows they hit it right the first time, so to speak. I walked (rode) out of the dealership for $6,800 all in including 4 years tags for a brand new bike. I did keep the gearing stock. I thought about changing the tooth count on the CS sprocket when I ordered the Fritzco sprocket but decided against it. For me and my riding style I think the gearing is perfect. Tons of slow speed low end torque for the trails and it has no problem at high speeds, or at least high speeds for my comfort level. Freeway speeds of 75-80 mph is not a problem and that's really faster than I care to ride. I've long since aged past the adrenaline junkie part of my life so cruising in the 60-70 mph range is enough for me and it will do that all day long every day. Clarke makes a couple different sized tanks and I chose the 4.7 gallon tank because it's a direct swap for the stock tank. Their larger 5+ gallon tank requires raising the handle bars and remounting the turn signals. The 4.7 gallon tank will last me for a couple hundred miles which is plenty of range for the Oregon Back Country Discovery Routes.
@@craigmccue2841 I am totally with you. 70mph is enough speed for me. I'm a very cautious rider since starting a family a few years ago. I do love the acceleration from low speed though. That's why dirt riding is so much fun. Thanks for the info on the 4.7 gallon tank.. I'd prefer a straight swap. I'm getting different size Fritzco's... they are so easy to change so I'll swap back to stock if I go a bit further. And I totally agree that Honda not changing anything and still selling lots is a sign that they had something good from the start. Same with the KLRs and DRs. I am not looking forward to the day you can't get bikes like these in showrooms anymore. Cheers
@@GreaseAndGravel At 54 yrs old, my kids are grown and fortunately I've also grown out of the adrenaline stuff. Hopefully you'll be able to share your love of riding with your kids! Now I'm looking forward to still being able to ride at 70 or 80 years old, hopefully, so cautious is my riding style too. It's funny how one's perspective changes over time. I really enjoy exploring new areas and seeing things I've never seen and this bike is so perfect for that type of riding for me. I would love to take it and ride the TAT some day. I agree the acceleration from low speed is a kick in the ass, so much so that the factory back tire wore out with only 1,000 miles on the bike. Seems I still have a little throttle issue. Ha ha The tire I have on now will likely make 2,000 miles hopefully. Should have bought stock in tire manufacturers. I hope you get some great riding in this year. I just waiting for the snow and ice to melt than all you'll see is dust. Cheers!
@@craigmccue2841 Thanks man! I'd also rather still be riding at 70 than break bones now. The TAT sounds amazing. You are lucky to have so many roads to ride without leaving the country... I am also waiting for winter (your summer), as it is almost too hot to ride here at the moment! 🤣 Cheers!
Some people like the DR650 better because it does have a cush hub, and it has a large oil cooler. Like the other 650’s, people use the DR for around the world travel as well.
My 250L had the same squeaking wiring harness in that same spot, and, it DID cause a short on the regulator over charging my battery. I ended up rewrapping that section and used a different material along with trying to flatten the wires as much as possible. Seems to have worked~
Yes, I cracked the subframe on my '85 XR250RF (& had it welded). If there is that much weight on the back the handling is shite anyway. As I toured Australia on the XR, XL600, & NX650, I, particularly in deep sand, water crossings & other serious offroading, found that army webbing was best as the weight sat on my hips or in the best place for the weight on that bike, the weight was on the pegs when I stood up, or if the bike failed, I could walk out.
I also used to put a bit of water & tools (ie heavy stuff), on the front guard to dampen the steering in deep sand.
Yes the stock tank is a stupid size for Australia or Africa, so an 18 or 24L aftermarket is the go.
I had zero problems with any CDI & my 96 NX650 was that exact engine and had that CDI. Soldering should be done by someone competent & with a decent soldering iron and experience.
This is a great bike for off-road & serious fun. It is not designed for lugging heaps of gear. The XR is a true Enduro bike for off-road shenanigans.
If you want to carry lots of gear on a bike and do lots of distance on the road, there are plenty of other bikes the do it on that are not a bona-fide Enduro like the XR.
Hi Mark, you are spot on with everything. I miss my XR and would love one again someday.. but not for touring. Maybe a short weekend trip, yes. The army webbing is a great idea. Cheers
i have one and its the best bike i ever owned awesome bike,,,
It is an awesome bike!
Have owned 3 since 93, mostly trail, log road miles, mild climate. Get rid of the smog pump and do the "DAVES MOD" and the bike is bullet proof. 30 years of production tells me something. Very good talking points , thanks.
Did you ever have countershaft problem?
Honda Accord cars had he poor solder joints on their cars Starter/Fuel pump unit, for about 30 year window, Yes just re-solder all the connection ponts, take about 30 minutes and will be golden!.These bikes have lots of upgrades to make them way better bike,
Front fork brace, Different handlebars, hand lever protectors with covers, 12v USB mont on handlebar, Different LED lights way better then stock brighter, Head light LED way better then stock.
Nice wider longer rear rack that is bolt on .
Better exhaust pipes giving a few ponies freed up.
The F/R sprockets harder steel and better chain materials too.
Front fender with a tool pouch kit easy strap to carry tubes. ALWAYS carry as many tools as p[ossible!
Bigger fuel tanks and better battery too.
I think there is a different carb for these too and a EFI available though not 100% sure its quality durability.
Ya these are a great bike and upgrades galore well worth it.
Tire upgrade are a must for dual purpose too.
Good video, I have two of them and there are plenty of videos pointing out the short coming that you need to take care of. But everyone should know that the XR650L has not seen an upgrade since 1986 except some emission crap and different paint. At 330lb its an excellent short trip dual sport bike.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the fact that it hasn't changed much is what I love about it. I dread the day that we don't get simple bikes like these anymore. With a bigger tank, I'd take it on longer trips too.
This has been my all time favorite bike since I was a kid in the 80s. I finally got one today. (An 06) I’ll pick it up tomorrow or the next day. I sold my 04 xt225 and it paid for the Honda. I got a really good deal on the Honda
@@GratefulEd907 Ooh, congratulations!! Must be a great feeling to finally get your dream bike. That's a bug jump from the XT. I am actually looking for a something like an XT350 now. Enjoy the XR!
Just my luck. I bought a 2013 XR650L 3 days ago and just found your video today! I, like you have had a lot of dual sports (including the KTM 640 Adventure). But with me having just a 30" inseam (and inflexible at 73 years old) this bike is VERY tall! Not hard to ride, just hard to get on and off! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the comment, Mike! And congrats on the bike. You get used to it, but it is a stretch. At least it is not THAT heavy. Wow, I am turning 40 tomorrow and I hope I will still be riding by 73! Respect. I just posted a video on stuff I love about the bike. I know of someone that has lowering links he wants to get rid of...maybe I can put you in touch. Enjoy the XR!
@@GreaseAndGravel the guy I bought the bike from included lowering links - I just need to install them. Thanks though.
I've got an 08, about the same height, and I've found that if I stop and the ground is 4" lower than i thought, we're going down and all I can really do is try to drop it gently
It does have "kush Drive" it's just incorporated into the back of the clutch basket not in the wheel hub.
I did not know that! Thank you for sharing.
Love my XR650L
It’s an awesome bike
Yes i know heavy is mostly a street bike or fast gravel roads. Nice on long trips . ! But very unique ! .
I agree with most of your comments. Despite them, its a solid bike. ITS THE MOST RELIABLE AND CONSISTEN 50 50 DUAL SPORT.
I rode my friends ktm690 and couldnt wait to get back on my xr. More comfortable. His had more power. Klr650 is a solid bike bike but didnt fo asxwell in dirt. More of a commuter bike
Love my xr. When i sold my first xr, i regretted it and bought another a year later.
Thanks for sharing! It really is a great bike and I actually tried to buy back mine (the one in the vid) a year later. But then found a 2006 1200GSA for the same price :)
It's been in production for over 30 years-and Honda hasn't hardly changed anything. (Why change near perfection?) They're tanks-uber reliable and IMHO better than the KLR650. As far as the buffer on the sprocket, it's just a creature comfort that'll wear out and we can't have that along with it being air-cooled, so no worries over all the baggage that comes with a liquid cooled. I'm pretty psyched over this relatively unknown gem from Honda because it's something I can ride out to the family farm, fill up with gas and go trail busting on the same ride. (Of course you could have the excuse of needing TWO bikes for each duty.) I like how Honda has kept these simple because they know adding anything is just something that can potentially break while off roading.
I watched Chris Scott's hour long film of their 2003 Desert Travels through the Sahara on 3 XRLs. I've got a new respect for these bikes now and I will be keeping mine! :)
@@GreaseAndGravel It's too bad Honda quit making the XR650R. They were phenomenal machines. Connoisseurs seem to really like the DZR400.
@@tomservo5347 Oh, I'd love to have an XRR, but they are rare and expensive here
I have a 2002 650l and I guarantee I ride it 100% harder than this guy. I jump it I ride wheelies and ride through mud and over logs anywhere I want. All these problems he's naming off have never been a problem to me. Like any off-road machine maintenance determinss longevity. I've never had any major problems with my bike. It's bulletproof best on road off-road bike ever made hands down!
He made a list because he's been shellshocked with all those other bikes he had before! 🤣
To properly ride this bike you have to man handle it like your trying to tear it up. It's not for the faint of heart.....
You are 100% correct! I do not have the skills to ride this thing as it should be ridden. Glad you are enjoying yours! I agree on the maintenance, though. Most of the 'issues' are due to poor riding and poor maintenance. Cheers
It was really hard choosing my DR650 over this bike, but I’m on the road so much and plan for possible highway riding. My DR is my daily commuter as well. I wish I owned both as well as a new Klr
I still want a DR650. They seem like the best in-between the KLR and XRL
I lowered mine 2 1/2" and haven't noticed any difference in the handling(lowering link
& cut the foam down toward the front).Jets
are 2 sizes larger than stock,wider front sprocket and wider foot pegs are a must.
Some of your "negatives" are a plus for me-love the bike
How did you lower the bike 2 1/2 inches?
By removing the seat cover & cutting the foam down(electric meat carving knife,about $35,and a wood"planer" that resembles a mini cheese grater).Re-installing seat cover was made easy with a pneumatic stapler.Also a rear lowering link plus lowering front forks 1 inch.It's still a little tall(i'm 5'10"),but i'm comfortable with it now.Some say that it "changes the geometry",but they're just trying to sound smart IMHO. I can't detect any difference
I've been riding a 1974 Xl350 for 37 years. My bike is the grandparent of the 650.
It has none of these problems.
Thanks for the info, Craig. Yeah, I think most of these 'problems' are imagined by the rider 😁 It is a great bike
I just libe it man. I have 2 xr250l and 1 xe650r, these bikes run for ever.
Mine is liquid cooled which is a bonus. Anyone interested you can retrofit fuel injection from a trx 700,it takes a bit of work and you must have a battery but its worth it.
11 points good to know THX....
I have had The R ..Xl in SA now in Canada i have the DR650.( Im a short ass) Its my Favourite but i am a big Honda fan..When we visit SA soon we want to tour a bit ., What would you recommend to rent or buy. I am told DRs are not sold there. Is that so.?
Funnest most reliable bargain price and did I say fun?..dual purpose bike on the planet. XR 650 is a true forever bike. I'm considering riding to California on mine this summer. Its about 3200 kms. To the west then down the south pacific hwy. Great, GREAT bike.
i put 39,000 miles on mine mostly off road, spark plugs, valve adjustments, tires, chain, chain sliders, thats it. it ran like new when i sold it.
Good video, son of Arnold.
😂💪Thanks!
The most important thing to know before buying one of these are that you can get a 650R instead.
Oh yes, I wish I learned that earlier! The R is quite scarce here
U might be able to get XR650R but not for price, or with electric starter, or street legal out of the box also thay stopped making XRR'S along time ago most of them have been raced and aren't in very good shape besides that my XRL IS PUMPED so bring on your XRR !!!!!!!THANKS from NOR-CAL
Thanks, @@chrisiollich4890! Yeah, the XRR's are super scarce and expensive here in SA too and I kinda like having some things on the bike that needs to be 'improved'... for me that is part of the fun. Plus, the XR650L has enough go juice for my riding style. Cheers from the bush in Africa
The 650R is tough to register for road use where I live ...
My buddy's got one, I keep up with no problem with my 650L. Your forgetting the electric start, might be an issue for some to get that 650R to fire up, I laugh at my friend, keep in mind we are riding at high altitude (Eastern High Sierra)
Thanks for the video! Tell me, what would you go with between Fritzco and KK for front sprocket ? Or any other good. Merci et bonne route! Ici c'est l'hiver! Qc
Thanks for the support. Unfortunately, I am not qualified to say. At the moment I run an XRR sprocket, but the chain alignment is slightly out. I have a couple of sizes of the Fritzco on the way which I will test here on the channel soon. From what I've read both Fritzco and KK are good. Primary Drive is another option I've seen. Merci, and enjoy the winter!
It is a good machine of most of your riding is offroad. It does run hot and rebuilds every 10k miles is not unusual. I sold mine after a short time. Too heavy for woods riding. Stock tires will get you killed. I have a DR650SE now and it is great on the road not so great in the dirt. It really needs one more gear in the transmission. The DR is like riding with no first gear. It is almost like riding in third gear. A DR with better suspension and a 6th gear would be an awesome bike. That thicker counter sprocket sounds like a good idea for the counter shaft wear issue.
10k miles u mad mate I know xr a few of my mates own one Including me and they bullet proof mate they go on for 50 km easily and do 100k if looked after wa do u ride en chamo
Love your content keep it up 💯🔥 I'm saving up for a xt660r
Thanks for the support, bro! Ooh, I LOVE the XT660R. I am going to be very jealous. That motor... (and EFI!) A friend of mine has a 2010 XT660Z with 55 000 hard miles on and it's still running good.
@@GreaseAndGravel super excited 😄 😁 I have an xtz125 right now and I have already ridden the xt660r and love everything about it so no one is changing my mind 😂
@@jackontwodirtwheels5138 Awesome!! 👏😁 I am a big XT fan. My first bike was a 1980 XT500
@@GreaseAndGravel i saw on your video looked like a very cool bike
Where or how do I buy one, the UK has none of the XR650L and I’m not interested in the R. Now I am currently in Spain and one came up for sale six hours away from me and sold within the 45mins it was online! Gutted! I wonder if it is worth speaking with a Honda dealer as I understand the model is still going as of Aug 2021.
I was looking at getting an XR600 another great bike but for some reason I’m leaning toward the 650. Great video mate I watched this last year when you uploaded.
Thanks, Thomas. These bikes are scarce here as well. They only sold them until 2012 in SA. Some say the XR600 was better. I’d love a 650R. Good luck with the search!
them hard in the dirt, done many jumps with them. By far the best! motor bagus bang The only slight problem i have,
DR's are not water-cooled but come with a factory oil cooler. However, once you add a Sutton oil cooler, KKbike sprocket and an Ignitech CDI the XR is pretty much unstoppable
Oops, thanks for the correction! My old DR750S was definitely air-cooled, but I've never had a newer DR650SE. Did you see a noticeable difference with the Sutton oil cooler? It gets well into the 100s here in summer.
@@GreaseAndGravel i live in India and its 45 deg C in Summer. The Sutton makes the oil stay at 250F on long riding days. Short runs it stays at around 215 to 225F. Making the fuelling a bit on the rich side makes it run cooler but mine still returns 20 kmpl even on a bad day. Id recommend you change your plugs and add a good flowing air filter , probably remove the baffle in the exhaust to compliment the changes.
Thanks, Alinel! I appreciate the feedback. Yeah, 45 deg C is common in summer here as well. I'll definitely look into that Sutton cooler. What is your jet sizes and altitude? I think I may have gone too large on the pilot and main considering I am at 600m above sea level. I was shocked to see 12 kmpl. I've replaced the plug, installed a TwinAir foam filter and removed the snorkel. Might remove the baffle in the exhaust, but worried about it being too loud.
@@GreaseAndGravel i am at sea level and ride till about 12000 ft on 160 main jet , Dave's mods and 2 1/4 turns out.
@@GreaseAndGravel 55/158 for higher elevations but i do not change now-a-days just run a 160 as i have advanced my ignition timing
Absolutely love my '03 XR650L. Amazing bike.
Must do mods are smog pump removal, Dave's mod de-snorkel and carb rejet, I used Dynojet.
They run super lean from factory.
Also, Shell Rotella 5W40 is best oil. Mine runs max oil temp around 220F.
Thanks, Phil. I've done all the mods you mentioned, but used Shell HX3 20W50 (hot here)... I will replace with Rotella next time. Was unsure what was in there before and was told to use mineral oil if I am unsure what the previous owner used...
Good video. Some design flaws that need fixing to deserve legendary status.I rode an XT500 for ten years with no issues compared to this bike.These problems completely put me off this bike.
I hear you. I also had an old XT500. I neglected it so bad (due to ignorance back then) and it just kept going. Maybe the XR650R is the legend here.
Good video. I learned why my bike is kind of jerky in the lower gears because of the lack of cush drive. I have a kx450f and would like to get something that I can ride on the street and is LESS MAITENANCE. I had a Yamaha TT600 growing up and it was probably about exactly the same as a xr650l. I took my 600 everywhere I take my 450 and the weight was a hinderance just like the pure speed is a hinderance on the 450 when riding trails. I am going to get a 650 and if I can find a low mileage R version I would rather get that than the L for the liquid cooling.
Thanks for the comment. I had an XT500. Should never have sold it. The XRR's are so scarce here... but I'd love to own one. I think the XRL will be less maintenance than the R, just because the engine is so simple and 'detuned' compared to the R.
@@GreaseAndGravel Good thoughts thanks. Maybe I will get the L
XR650R is much faster with more horsepower, a legit race bike for off-road, but a BEAST to kick start. It has no electric start and when tipped over hot, can become almost impossible to restart until it cools some while you wear yourself out kicking cooler air through the cylinder 🥵
I'm thinking about buying one . Gonna be road alot on back roads and dirt roads to and from work. . 70 miles a day 6 days a week.
It is a great bike. Initially it took me some time to warm up to it, but since then I've fallen in love with it. It will go anywhere!
I'm 193cm and if the bike is ready to tip over, I'll put my feet down and usually touch air on uneven terrain. Thats why I keep it in 2nd gear when going slow and just power through most things
Yeah, it is a tall bike. I am only 183cm. I dropped it a few times while not committing over rough terrain... but once I gained confidence, it is much easier to keep my feet on the pegs.
I’m in!
🙌
After your video I don’t think I will purchase this 650L. Thank You
It is a great bike for some applications, but you need to want to work on it and improve it to make it the bike it should have been.
Hi great show and bike Wher can I get my front shocks straightened
Thanks, Jan. What is wrong with them? Did you drop the bike? My forks were scew but it ended up being a totally worn steering head bearing. Sometimes the fork legs move in the clamps and you can loosen, move and retighten them. There are lots of vids on CZcams. Good luck!
XR650L.......4.7 gal. Clarke tank.....Pipe and jet.....rear rack.....K&N filter....skid plate..... bark busters.......Perfect.
I am starting to fall in love with this bike...
Interesting about the wires being possibly kinked. My 2008 dr650 has a short on similar area when I turn hard left at walking speeds. Handlebar risers apparently cause too short of wiring. Never any other times.
I think the previous owner rerouted the wires.
Only gripe i had is needs bigger tank from factory
The suzuki DR650 probibly has more after market parts available & it comes standard with cush drive. The motor is alot more ballanced too. 👌 Kawasaki KLR also has a cush. things to know before choosing a big thumper.
Yes, that is one of the reasons why I miss my KLRs! But the more I ride the XR, the more I appreciate its advantages too :)
As an neutral accented American, there are only a hand full of accented English I love: Afrikaans, Scottish, Aussie, Kiwi, Irish come to mind first. In that order.
Thanks Dave. Yeah, I also love the Scottish/Irish/Aussie/NZ accents the most.
I love this bike. Am actually researching so that I can buy one early next year. Do you have an idea where I can get one manufactured in 2015 and beyond and ship it to Kenya?
Unfortunately, they discontinued importing them to South Africa around 2012. So I don't think you'll find a newer one in Africa. I may be wrong though. I know of some guys that ride them up there in Kenya. Also, the XR650R. I hope you can find a good one!
@@GreaseAndGravel Thanks. We'll talk
I would add to this list that the most glaringly annoying thing is is 1st gear is so low it's like a Granny gear and then there's a huge jump in ratio and RPM to 2nd gear. Then 2nd through 5th gear are so close to space together it's really wound out pretty high on the freeway.
I liked everything else about the bike and didn't even notice the other issues you mentioned.
If it had better space ratio, or even better yet a 6 speed, I would probably buy another one.
Yeah, none of the issues are too serious... but the gearing is super annoying. Especially if you do a lot of slow riding. Shifting between 1st and 2nd all the time should not be necessary on a bike like this.
+1 on that...ultimately the reason I swapped mine out for a plated XR650R. The gearing doesn't match the intended function of the bike.
I bought a 97 XR 650l with 1800 miles on it about 7 years ago. The previous owner wrote it in Colorado and it was jetted leaner than stock and had an old school FMF pipe. It would backfire on deceleration and lacked acceleration, I live in Texas at around 1000’. I wound up jetting it 155/55, (one size up over stock on pilot and main) and reinstalled the stock muffler. I also performed Dave’s carb mod and dropped a tooth on the front sprocket and went up three or four on the rear. Made a huge difference, the bike would now rip and the combination of Dave’s carb mod and different sprockets made it handle much easier at low speeds and close the gap somewhat between first and second. I installed an IMS 4 gallon tank also and it helped with the handling at speeds above 65 miles an hour. The stock cooling fins on the tank seemed to lift the front end up and it liked to speed wobble. I put an additional 5000 miles on it and gave it hell. It’s a great wheelie bike, but it runs way hot for my liking. I’ve seen my oil temp hit 270°. it’s finally started to rattle one day😁 I stuck a borescope in the cylinder and it was scored. I put a new top end on the bike and all is good but really haven’t ridden it much since. It’s a big pig of a bike very top heavy and in my opinion just good for light trail riding. It doesn’t seem to do anything really well except wheelie.
@@Booneville2024 doesn’t need it, but I did it😁
Video starts at 2:35
Skip the Daves mod and just swap in an FCR/MX flatslide carb from a CFR450. You will be miles ahead in performance. The FCR has an accelerator pump. Best mod I did to my ride.
Neat idea
Hi. Did the swap alter your mpg much ?
@@NaziHampster Between one tooth smaller on the front sprocket and the carb swap I did lose some economy yes. Not enough to be concerned about. Was still getting about 275 km on 13 litres of fuel before reserve (added a Clarke 4 gallon as well). Once I got over how snappy the bike became and started riding like a normal human again mileage was still good.
@@zrig1 Cheers for the reply mate. Reckon i'm going to have to do it :)
I’ve had four xrs and they all chewed the slimes off of the counter shaft; and you must completely disassemble that motor to replace that shaft. I just welded this last one on there.
Wow, that is insane. Some riders still think it is a myth. I replaced mine immediately with a Fritzco just to be sure.
They are called splines.
In addition to the CDI, the pulse generator likes to die. I also had to replace my stator (upgraded to higher wattage so I can run things like heated gear if I wish).
Mileage sucks so I added the big Arceibis tank - took it off last year. Full, it was a LOT of weight up high I didn't need. Added an oil cooler (live in Arizona), considered that a must. Oil last longer now.
I've had mine for 11 years now, only one good trip. First few years was a trial due to QC issues with it (burnt up twice in 3600 miles because the factory cylinder liner was under sized - another local bike had the same problem. 2008 was not a good year it seems).
Handle bars are way too low so factor in bars with a higher rise so you can stand up. I added a steering dampener which has helped a bit on high speed sweepers on the freeway. She seems sorted now, no problems (knock on wood) for the last 3K miles. In the rocky desert "roads" with knobbies, she is a torque monster. :^)
Thanks for the info on your bike! Sorry about the early troubles! Yeah, the mileage is crap (economy and tank size!). I can barely do 100-120 miles on a tank. Bar risers is also a must. Need to fit some, as I can't stand for more than a couple of seconds. Oh, and knobbies. Which tires did you fit? I still want to be able to ride 50miles of tarmac to get to the dirt roads.
@@GreaseAndGravel I have two sets of wheels; D606's (on the advise of a much better dirt rider, for Arizona desert riding the D606's are supposed to be the best). Run Avon Trailriders 95% of the time on the other set of wheels. I have yet to settle on any one dual sport/street tire - I've been experimenting and have yet to find a street tire I don't like. The sun ruins the tires before I get a chance to wear them out - I have two other street bikes and I rotate among them so the mileage does not get run up on any. I will say, these Avons were easier to spoon on.
@@ronboe6325 Thanks, I appreciate the info. The D606s are actually no1 on my list, so I am glad you mentioned them. I am not too worried about road manners for now. Two sets of wheels make a lot of sense!
@@GreaseAndGravel The 2nd set of wheels really on makes sense if you happen to ride mostly paved roads (like me); road tires will wear better. D606's have plenty good enough road manners if you make a point of seeing the dirt fairly often. In the desert I use the term "dirt" loosely, it's mostly gravel and rocky. I've tossed the bike back and forth pretty good on paved switch backs coming out of a river valley and the knobbies were better than my skill level. I was very surprised how well they did.
Good to know, thanks@@ronboe6325! I rode a D606 in the rear on my KLR once (could have been a T63) and remember it being more than enough grip on try tarmac. I am overly cautious anyways, so don't need a lot of grip.
I live at 5000 feet elevation and bike runs richer as you go up in elevation (carburetors do that).Don't worry about popping on decel, lot's of properly tuned bikes do this. I went with bigger idle jet (52) and left the needle and main jet alone. Runs very nice and get 55+ miles per gallon. In hot conditions don't let the bike run if you aren't moving. Shut it off. MOst overheating occurs when the bike is stationary. I left the device that channels air from airbox into the exhaust manifold. My theory is that adding cool air to the manifold and exhaust cools it slightly and this allows the engine to shed more heat. Basic physics but most xr650l riders say I'm bonkers...
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! I am at about 1700 ft, so stock jetting should then be OK I assume. What do you think? I've ordered the 52 pilot as well, but 50 should be just right then. I was shocked by the poor consumption. 55 mpg is awesome! I did notice dirt in the carb, so added an inline filter.
Which device are you referring to that channels air to the exhaust manifold. Is it the once with the two openings (referred to as the snorkel by many)? I thought it is there to restrict airflow as it is quite a bit smaller than the opening it goes into. Any airflow onto any hot part should add to cooling, I agree.
I will play around with the jetting, as there is definitely something wrong with my tuning. Did you remove the smog pump? Cheers👍😁
@@GreaseAndGravel The 55/158 is great with stock exhaust/intake from sea level to 6500'. These numbers only pertain to Keihn jets. Other companies use different numbering systems.
Not the snorkel, it's refered to as smog device(pump), etc. It actually just takes cold air from air box and dumps it into exhaust manifold. Sits on left side of engine. Looks a bit like an octopus. Almost everyone removes it with block off kit. I left it. My snorkel is still in place and stock exhaust.
Ah, thanks! I was wondering what the smog pump does. I removed mine, but if it is there to pump cool air into the exhaust manifold it makes sense to leave it alone. Seems like I've got some tuning to do. Thanks again.
@Bork Fork I looked at the smog pump again... does it not work the other way around? I.e pump hot exhaust gas from the manifold into the airbox to recirculate the exhaust gas to reduce emissions?
@@GreaseAndGravel yeah Im almost positive that it is a exhaust gas recycling device for emissions. I think making the fuel mixture more rich is the best route
Thanks for sharing it! I am in a middle of a crisis , Idk what option is better the xr650 L or crf 300 rally L? Could you please guide me? I'm 6".
Thanks in advanced from Costa Rica!
Hi Emmanuel. I am 6"1 and the XRL is a bit tall for me. You get used to it, but in tricky situations I've dropped mine a few times. If you are a very experienced rider, the XRL will probably be more fun, but on the balance, I'd probably go for the CRF300L or Rally. It's got EFI (better fuel economy), will be more comfortable on the road, less maintenance (no fiddling with carbs). The XRL is old technology. Nothing wrong with it if you like fiddling with bikes and modifying it etc, but if you just want to ride without any worries, the CRF will be better. Yes, you won't pop massive wheelies or do high jumps like on the XRL (but then again, I can't do those things on any bike anyways). My opinion doesn't really count much :) If you can, go ride both. And if you remember, please let me know what you decide!
👍 nice
Thanks, David!
This is an evolution of the 600 and 500 going back to the early eighties. The 600 had an oil cooler from the factory. Why did they make a bigger engine without one?
I'd like to know the same thing!
Great concise review sir!!! So knowing these potential possible issues, would you buy it again?
Thanks, John. I appreciate the kind words. It really depends on the price and what you want to use it for. I was looking for a KLR650 (I've had two before) but then got the opportunity to swap my old non-running camper van (1975 bay window) for this XR650L without seeing the bike first (it is in great nick).
I've always wanted one and I love the bike. But whether I will keep it, I am still unsure. Not because it is not a good bike, but just because I itch for something different every couple of months. For dirt riding it is absolutely amazing (but a 250/300 dirt bike will be much better). I'd imagine for long-distance touring (especially gravel) it will be awesome too. But not so much for street riding (with the lack of cush drive and lots of chain slop). I'd rather get an old KLR650 AND an XR650L (or an XR600R, or better yet, a KTM300) instead of one new XR650L... if that helps :) But if you want just one bike for touring and hard-core technical dirt stuff... then the XR is a great compromise.
@@GreaseAndGravel That last sentence of yours tell me a lot. Thanks for the response, keep up the videos, I really enjoy your delivery.
I appreciate the support@@hwnwhaler1 I hope you find the right bike! I don't think you can go wrong with an XR... Cheers
In my opinion I love my XR I came from a TRX450R and so I was always stuck on a track and really wanted something road legal but still have some decent fun off-road and keep similar power, so I went with the XR650L and so far its been great for me. Low maintenance great reliability great power. And I have taken it on a MX track and while it is very heavy for racing, I imagine its weight is very comparable to a dakar rally bike so its really not too bad to handle. Just have to man handle it when possible haha. And for reference I weigh 165 to 170 and am 5’11” and i can handle this bike fine most of the time and my feet almost flat foot on level ground. So in conclusion this is a great bike 8/10 for me.
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, biggest plus for me is the simplicity. But I also like the off-road ability (even though my dirt-riding skills still need a lot of work!). Wow, how do you flat-foot it? I am just over 6' and I have to tip-toe... As a bike for having fun on the trails it is at the top of my list, but as a long-distance touring bike I still prefer my KLR.
@@GreaseAndGravel you can check the sag on the rear shock spring that can affect the ride height a little bit.
@@WOLFZEIT_ I still need to dial that in... just need to make a plan with a custom tool
@@GreaseAndGravel you can us a flat head and a hammer and tap it around to loosen the two thin nuts on the spring
There are lowering links available for the rear suspension, and forks are easily lowered by raising fork tubes in triple clamps. I preferred the more expensive route to lower my XR 1.5” for my 5’9” height, 30” inseam. I had Race Tech shorten shock & fork travel 1.5”, add Gold Valves and re-shim valving for a very controlled and plush ride. The bike lowered slightly, also handles better on and off-road! I love my XR for ADV/BDR and DS rides, decent on the highway and a tractor in the dirt! A “Swiss Army Knife” that can just about do anything decently well!
You convinced me to not buy the XR650L. I'm considering the new 2021 CFR 300L Rally ABS. Likely it will have new problems. I don't ride rough trails. Just back roads, gravel, dirt roads. Easy friendly trails.
If you can, go ride the XR650L and the CRF300L Rally back to back before you decide. But yeah, for those conditions the Rally with fuel injection and larger tank will probably be more enjoyable.
Have a 19 xr650l and did all the recommended mods. Ditched the rear fender and taillight for crf450 rear fender(about a days worth of trimming fitting...repeat) dropped a tooth up front, added a yoshi pipe, thing power wheelies in 2nd gear with my 300lb butt on it. Crazy fun that thing is! Reminds me of the days when we were kids ripping around on bmx bikes😁
Awesome!! Yeah, the 14t does add some smiles. I still need a pipe though. And I am too scared too lift the front wheel...😊 Enjoy!!
@@GreaseAndGravel Hey ive been riding half my life and still cant get over my "wheelie block😁" When the front wheel starts to come up I feel like a rockstar, after about a foot I freak out😁
@@billcharlene1450 🤣That's me exactly! I've bought myself a trials bike to learn on and to get over my fears. At least you can jump off the back and it only weighs about 150 lbs. But the XR, no way! Too scary!
Hoping you can help. My XR650L is misfiring at high rpm when going over 100km. I love the bike but have no idea how to fix this problem.
Sorry for only seeing this now. I am no mechanic. Does it happen in any gear? I mean, is it related to road speed (100kmh) or engine speed (certain rpm)? Could be fuel starvation, bad plug or CDI (unlikely if that is the only symptom). Maybe ask on the XR650L Riders Facebook groups. There are a ton of guys that can help there. I hope you get it sorted!