Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
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During the two years we have been at war in #Ukraine, few changes seem as intense as the turnaround by French President Emmanuel Macron.
From "no need to humiliate #Russia" and handing out carrots to Moscow to negotiate, the Gallic president is now raising the tone, even saying that he would be willing to send troops to Ukraine.
The question is, what explains such a U-turn? Why is Macron now saying that France could go so far as to send soldiers to Ukraine itself?
#Putin
There needs to be more coverage of how France's recent losses in "French Africa" (assisted by Russia's Wagner mercenary group) clearly appear to be a major source of motivation as to why France is suddenly the first NATO country in over 2 years of fighting to seriously discuss sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine. Seems like something worth discussing even if politicians aren't openly talking about it
We should discuss about taking arms against macron and his criminal regime instead.
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
Double Exactly
Have you heard of the invasion of Ukraine? Check it out..
France was the great imperial conqueror and equal of England and of course it should FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AND NOT GIVE UP THE FAITH, only you know it should use immigrants instead of sending them to Rwanda you know, instead of Putin immigrants in storage overseas, it should use them up in Ukraine and you know, leave the Frenchmen to make wine and all the stuff we import from there.
fun fact: France is the only country where warning shot is with nuclear weapons
True
Fun fact that is a lie because France never used nukes outside of testing them so north korea more of a threat than they are with using nukes,
Macron should be proud .
Lessons learnt from WWII ? Or not learnt, to be more precise 😅
@@cerebrofanRussia haven’t learn anything from Afganistan and Chechnya
You do have to love the way that governments simply assume that every war will be over in a matter of weeks, despite the fact that you can probably count the times that has happened in modern history on one hand.
@snackplissken8192 If true, you won’t have trouble naming all the wars that were claimed would be ‘over in a matter of weeks’
Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Serbia, Gaza. Everytime a much bigger power fights with a small country.
It's never "over by Christmas" that's for damn sure.
Macron will send troops to Taiwan ? I thought so
@@Bidmartinlo It's actually hilarious how many wars have started with this fantasy.
Weirdly France tones changed about Russia and Ukraine happened when it spheres of influence in former African french colonies was changed toward Russia now being the one with influence with the new regime in those countries that are kicking out France interests in the regions
Look up the Toyota War?
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
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@@maynamar2517 you sound like Charlie Brown's teacher? Anyone ever tell you dat..
Yeah looks like Russia is isolating itself further. Them backing maduro cost the Brazilian support and Lula got close to Macron
Point of correction. You mentioned the $17 Billion given by Germany that's not quite correct. Germany promised $17 Billion but it has yet to actually GIVE that amount in terms of military equipment. The French only gave $3 Billion its true it needs to increase...but every dollar of that $3Billion was a tangible piece of military kit.
The point being that $3 Billion of actual military aid is worth far more than $17 Billion worth of empty promises.
Germany has been all bluster and zero effort in this war. They also promised to boost their military by hundred of billions of Euros, but has so far failed to modernize and rearm. Highly disappointed in Germany. They have zero credibility.
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
@@bogrunberger You mix things up. We know about the problems with the Bundeswehr, but the nonsense comparing the 17 billions from Germany with the ridiculous 3 billions is just stupid. Germany is by very very far more supporting Ukraine as France, Spain and Italy combined.
@@bogrunbergerAgreed. Guilt from WW2 im guessing is why Germany never invested in building their military or security despite having the biggest economy of the EU if im not mistaken. This Russia/Ukraine thing has proven the EU was sitting on their rears neglecting building up their military.
@@bogrunberger They can not afford it lmao
This has more to do with French economic influence in Africa, than with what is happening in Ukraine.
Bingo.
Please enlighten us. Because France is out of Africa now. This has nothing to do with Ukraine.
I agree.
@@romain3889 The Russians helped Africa get rid of France
Maybe due to the cyberattacks on French Infrastructure and Hospitals. But you go with the Africa story as it suits your narrative.
Well make sure he’s on front line with troops
I agree with Macron push for strategic military autonomy. However, although I didn't make up my mind, I noticed some logical inconsistencies: Russia's production is at full capacity (they need more factoriesto build more and there is no indication they even started), their exports all but stopped, they are importing from wherever they can but still they can't have clear breakthrough in Ukraine and full air superiority? Why? They don't want to? At the same time they want to expand and fight NATO? In 10 years Putin is going to be 81 yo. Who knows who he is going to be if he is still around. Doesn't make sense..
That's the problem with autocrats in general, they are surrounded by yes men and that implies that who knows what reality Putin is being sold on, kinda like Hitler in WW2, he had the upper hand but then proceeded to make the gigantic strategic disaster that was bringing the USSR into the war
You're right that it doesn't make sense. That's because the talk about Russia invading NATO is fear mongering to justify heavy rearmament despite the European economies being in shambles.
War is profitable. A rich man's war, a poor man's fight.
Well, Joe Biden is well into his 80s and still around. I'm afraid Putin either wins "enough" in Ucraine during these years, or he goes nuclear (errection) before he goes away. Russia is dying anyway..economically and demographically. So why the hell not, right? China is also at its peak - so what better chances are if not now?
Russia took Africa away from the French so they are upset and embarrassed.
Russia took Africa period. Well Poutine bought a few leaders there, very easy, between corrupted leaders.
Some people get mad at me for saying that, glad to know I'm not alone
Bingo
France stole Armenia from Russia.
Yup, and the French are in the process of kicking Russia out of Armenia
Macron was right about European strategic autonomy, first militarily which then affords political and economic autonomy. He's right again about not letting Russia win because there will be consequences Europe will have to pay if the Ukrainians lose. Recently Putin himself said that Russia's borders don't end anywhere, take that to mean whatever it will, but one thing remains clear. He doesn't miss to deliver on such kinds of promises.
It's not like France asked for an european force for about 40 years, but everyone puts their money into their own little projects and in the end we have armed forces that are not interoperable and everyone masturbates to the sound of their national anthem
Macron was right ? Never heard about it except amongst the worst globalists. Macron would have better off had the Minsk agreement implemented by Kiev, as was his role in the text approved by the UN security council. It would have avoided a bloody war and the collapse of the European economy...
I hope you know that he said it as a joke. In context that didnt mean what you are claiming.
NATO is the liar e, g. the Minsk agreeement
@@attilamarics3374 No, it was not a joke at all. And my point is relevant.
It's like shutting the door when the horse has already run away.
Bolted. The horse bolted 😂
How about explaining the Minsk agreement, we know what Merkel said. Europe needs to remember that unlike WW2, they can't draw bodies from it's colonies. How France became a member of the security Council is beyond me, everyone had to save them.
The French word merci was invented in WWII… When the Germans came running over the hill, all the French screamed mercy, mercy 😂
The Minsk agreement was a Ukrainian surrender agreement, which became necessary because the West had reneged on the Budapest agreement, and Ukraine was not strong enough militarily to rebuf the Russian invasion of 2014. So there, the Minsk agreement explained.
The WW2 map of Ukraine no Donbass , no Access to the sea.
@@spudwesth You are incorrect on both counts.
Just say your understanding of history and the world goes no further than 2 conflicts
I am not usually a hawk, but I think that Macron is taking the right position. The wider implications for international peace and security of allowing Russia to win would be enormous. Allowing a country to win a war of aggression backed by nuclear threats would completely rewrite the rule book of international relations. (And before people start shouting about the West, I agree that it has also violated international law. But nothing on the scale or scope as we are seeing in Ukraine. The US never tried annexing part of Iraq and Afghanistan is still a sovereign state.) The question is not why France is pushing to step in if things get worse, it’s why other Western countries aren’t?
Oh, and before anyone says that Western intervention would be madness as it would escalate the war into WWIII, why is NATO stepping to into defend Ukraine a dangerous escalation, but Russia’s invasion isn’t!? Let’s not lose sight of the real problem here. Again, we come back to the central point: allowing Russia to win a war of territorial expansion would have profound implications for the rest of the world.
You really should limit the Ukr Twitter feed. We should be rearming European nato,just for sake, yet as much as Russia might wish to swallow certain states, it simply lacks means to do so.
France will fight Russia to keep their colonial Empire in Africa intact, not for some altruistic reasons. 😂😂
@@philipen65888 for now, but they are heavily militarizing & that will not be the case forever ! pull your head out.
If only Simon Whistler came back to this CZcams channel.
@@DacianRiderSo are some states in Europe. It's quite important for the 'laggers' in this respect to reconsider current approach and following suit ( at least to some extent).
As painful as it is to witness Russia's aggression in Ukraine, the facts speak for themselves.
The US is not willing to heavily commit to Ukraine's war effort. Ukraine is far from being self-sustainable at any level, including in terms of mobilizing manpower-this applies to both ability and willingness.
Despite enormous resources allocated by the West to Ukraine, they are nowhere close to achieving anything close to victory, and they reject any reality based on straightforward reality on the ground and indisputable facts. They have no plan nor attempt to figure out alternative pathways to the one pursued currently.
It is by no means beneficial for Ukraine and its future to engage in the delusion that the West is about to commit more resources, or to believe that Macron actually intends to follow through with actions instead of just talking, aimed solely to fulfill his own agenda. Sad, but that's how things are.
France is losing West Africa to Russia. That's why they worried about.
The only tie France had with Niger was Uranium supply which they quickly replaced since the coup, it's Niger that lost democracy with the help of Russia.
nice deflection. as if Africa has anything to do with the fate of Europe here...
exactly
Bro doesn't know about French West Africa@@DacianRider
@@joshjwillway1545 knowing about it and shouting about it are two very different things.
Russia is driving France out of Africa and this makes Macron mad
what does africa have? diamonds? so early 1900's. no one gives a hoot about diamonds today. what else they got? nothing but gems and gold. can barely grow anything. everyone is always fighting between themselves. they dont want be governed. if it wasnt for "government" ; everyone would still live in huts. oh wait. they do
dirty frogs
Day 770.
Of the 3 day special military operation.
If only all nations stepped up that production lines by a few percentage .....
Germany did, by alot actually.
All talk but no action from most of the NATO countries . They do not even pay for their NATO dues.
Germany hasn't paid in years
Go for it France. Invite Poland too.
Bring it on
France is going against Russia because of the role of Russia in Africa causing France loosing its grip on their ex colonies. The stories are not being repeated together but it’s all the same.
It's point, but far to be the only one. It's time to wake up, no?
@@lambertaxExactly
Was about to say the same …
Macron should be going against China then since China is doing the same in Djibouti and everything east and south of that ... which is pretty much all of Africa.
How come all of these coup leaders in Africa were trained by US military personal/CIA?
It’s an U-turn, until next U-turn. :O
They don’t call him 360 Macon for nothing.
I’m sure it’s not a matter of wanting to go but a matter of necessity. I remember Macron describing NATO as brain dead a few years ago.
Yeah, I think NATO has become lazy in the last two decades. Grew too comfortable with their economic and tech superiority.
Russia would still get whacked if it ever tried but I don’t think NATO is as ready as people are led to believe
Yes. But that was BEFORE Pootin invaded Ukraine and declared the "combined West" as the arch-enemy of the self-professed wannabee Russian Empire. Let's say, those actions had a... rather *invigorating effect* on the alliance. So that statement became history pretty fast...
If its so necessary for you , than you could go yourself and "make a difference". Other people do not to participate in that bs.
I seem to remember hearing folks here in the US saying NATO is as brain dead as Macron. If you are under the impression that America is in the mood to fight another war you frechies started you had better think about it again.
@@Rom2Serge to be fair, whether it’s necessary or not is up for debate, but one thing isn’t: the people who ‘don’t participate in that bs’ are entirely unnecessary when the wolf comes to the door.
Whatever happens to them is, frankly speaking, never on their own terms - it involves the terms of others who are in charge. After all, the ability to not participate and to call something bs is a pure luxury and never a right.
2 important factors neglected. French loss of influence and access to strategic resources in Africa, and upcoming elections in France where Macron’s party is set to take a serious blow.
European elections, let's precise. There is no french election coming untill 2027 and Macron will not be able to be elected again as he is already in his 2nd mandate (maximum in France)
France’s loss of dirt cheap resources n African mandatory currencies parked in French banks to boost France economy n maintain France current living standard
More like micron.
more like micron said f it going to lose election so lets get the party that beats us into a war before we lose to f them up and make them lose next election.
Is about Times 🙏! Bless.
Macron, finally smelling the coffee
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
🤡
How long have you been in ukrane?
Macron the type of fella to practice Napoleon quotes before going to sleep
Macron is the only major player in Europe that accepts russia for what it is.
He needs to study Napoleon's war on Russia. That didn't go so well.
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
@@falcoperegrinus2292 Putin obviously didnt.
@@JS-el3zm a dictatorship, almost everybody knows that
Well if he has wake up fantastic because we are running out of time, need urgently send troops an material to Ukraine , I feel ashamed seeing how Iranians and North Koreans are in this war and we looking to other side as if the war was not a reality. But No worries soon you 'lll discover how real it is ...
You already have 30 Nato countries participating in this war what more do you want
@@ibrahimmoncada2710 if only every Nato country helped like Baltics, Danes, Swedes and Czechs Urkainians would not loose so many people.
@@ibrahimmoncada2710what participation lol
We need to intervene militarily sending equipment is just putting in a war of attrition that we are currently losing Russia is producing 3x more artillery shells then all of nato combined because democracies are full of idiots that don’t understand the threat Russia poses blinded and fattened by wealth grown complicit overtime and an overly anti populations honestly I see the west losing because the mere they looked at the Russian invasion in said with in 2022 like this Isn’t reality he’s been letting everyone know what his goal was from the very beginning swallowing up all of the former Soviet republics and reinstating Russia as a global power he will invade
Completely agree mate, we all need to up military spending to 5-7% GDP effective immediately and start/ramp up production. Also the UK needs a massive recruitment drive to double the size of its forces over the next 18 months. Otherwise we will all be at war because our armed forces won't have been enough to stop it from happening
You said you’d leave a video link in the description.. well where is it?
Clean and concise w/o political overlays. Well done.
Hyperinflation coming
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
I don't think that's the question that should be asked. I think it's more like 'Does France feel they *must* enter the Ukraine War?'
While there are likely alternative reasons for Macron he's not wrong that if Russia wins then Europe will both lose credibility *or* end up with another war on their doorstep.
If the question of 'a War in Ukraine today' versus 'a War in the EU tomorrow' he might gamble on today.
Yes, appeasing the aggressor was tried in the late 1930s, and all we got was WW2...
I’m so happy that someone is willing to help Ukraine since our congress is playing games with people’s lives.
Yeah republicans are obstructing again
People are tired. They could’ve had peace by now. Zelensky begging nato for hundreds of billions is getting old
Crazy Macron of France 💀🥶🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
9:19 Leningrad Military District? But there is no more Leningrad, it is called Sankt Petersburg.
I agree with Macron. Glad to see the turnaround and have a leader with balls. The cost will be much much larger if we wait for Russia to grow and take over other countries.
Putin wants the WW2 border to be returned and the murder of his people to be ended.
😂🤡
I think what you fail to realise that this is not 1960, you cannot fool people anymore and we understand what war capitalism actually looks like.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Russia is looking to take over any country.
In fact when the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991, Russia was at its weakest and terribly poor economically.
If Russia was going to become such a threat in future, why wait till Russia recovered economically and militarily , because NATO could have finished Russia off easily in the 1990s?
Oh wait, if NATO countries would have got Russia finished in the 1990s they could not spread Russian fear that continues till today and with this very channel., if you cannot sell fear then you cannot sell NATO expansion and definitely you CANNOT sell WEAPONS.
NATO expansion is a lucrative deal for defence contractors, each country is mandated to spend 3% of its GDP, follow the money and you get the truth.
The idea of Russian terror is nothing but fear mongering to sell weapons!
But ok for Europe to take over other countries, ie Africa. He needs to stay in his lane and worry about the state of France.
No offense, but if he actually had balls, he would have fought Russia in N. Africa instead of letting Wagner (Russia) kick France out of multiple countries in the last 6 months.
Macron is correct.
Until the emergency warning sirens start going off in NATO capitals.....
@@HRHolm-bi6zu NATO also has some warheads. There would be sirens in Moscow too. If they want it.
@@maciek_k.cichon Yeah? Well, who the hell *wants* it?
@@HRHolm-bi6zu My point exactly. But it's Kremlin who constantly rattles the nuke option.
Go and fight Russia 🤡
I agree!
Does this have nothing to do with the tension in Burkina Faso 🇧🇫?
If NATO is not going to toughen up and show muscles, ignoring all those red lines, NATO will seize existence.
Sure, any member of Nato can attack for defensive reasons anyone in the world. Now, if a member of Nato is attacked for any reason, then Nato will defend the member nation...
NATO caused the attack
Macron now woken up to Reality. Slava Ukraine
⭐💙💛🇪🇺
Does France Want to Enter the Ukraine War?
Why don't you ask the French citizens?
Macron is now, mentally adjacent to Joe Biden.
In other wards... psychotic and/or psychosis. (it's obvious)
Strangely enough there's factories opening and profits to be made, who would have thought. Tale as old as time
French aid > UK if you include what they provided via the EU
And: Only a u-turn if you haven’t followed the arc of continuous hardening of stance
French is just salty on Russia's role in taking down France's neo-colonial empire in the Sahel, Africa. Russian troops were far closer to France during the Warsaw Pact era than they are the now in the Ukraine. They aren't a bigger threat "than they have ever before." The French care much more about the far more damaging loss of Niger, Mali etc. to their economy than the "looming threat to Moldova." Getting "tit for tat revenge" has sadly been a chief driver of French foreign policy for centuries. e.g. Haiti (for kicking then out), Britain (for defeating them in the 7 years war), Libya (for proposing a new currency to replace the CFA Franc in N.Africa) etc.
It appears you're prematurely assuming France's concerns lie solely with the situation in the Sahel. While indeed concerning for France, the potential fallout from Ukraine's defeat would reverberate globally, plunging Europe and the world into turmoil. Recent events in Ukraine, including forced conscription in the captured teritories and the utilization of thousands as mere canon fodder, signify a dire warning. If Ukraine succumbs, NATO could face a large conscripted force, triggering catastrophic consequences akin to a new world war.
Intelligence forecasts suggest 2026 as a pivotal year, with China potentially aligning against Western powers. Iran and North Korea might join this coalition, amplifying the threat. The ramifications are grave:
North Korea's aggression could ignite a full-scale conflict with South Korea.
China may target Taiwan, Vietnam, and the Philippines, escalating regional tensions.
Russia, bolstered by captured Ukrainian and Belarusian forces, could set sights on the Baltics, marshaling a force exceeding two million soldiers.
The timing of Putin's actions may seem puzzling, but demographic shifts in both Russia and China likely spur their assertiveness.
All the military intelligence is clear keep Ukraine free from the Russians at all cost. France had the wrong intelligence at the beginning even firing the head of the DGSE as Putin was lying to Macron and the French DGSE wasn't able to give Macron what other countries like the US and UK knew.
All of Africa = 6% of France's trade. If you really think this is the only reason, you're delusionnal.
It's called hubris!
@@Beremote Stop lying, NATO countries have nuclear weapons, why in the world would Russia invade them?!
@@Beremote Stop lying, NATO countries have nuclear weapons, why in the world would Russia invade them?!
I've learned, if it wasn't for the French getting involved to help the enemy of my enemy, there would likely be no US.
The people of France are generally opposed to war, so, if they wish to march... pay attention.
"There are no eternal allies, and no perpetual enemies, only perpetual interest," - Henry of Palmerstone
….. and perpetual wars. ‘til the mushroom clouds, anyway.
@@gorilladisco9108There are no perpetual interests either. Everything is, always was and always will be changing. In 50 years after this war is over, it will be something written in history books. Imagine independence fighters in 1776 or Americans 1812 hearing/thinking/knkwinf England will be US ally. Or French and English in 1942 that Germany will be their ally. Would they find it reasonable and meaningful to fight? It is a pinnacle of stupidity to participate in modern wars.
@@markotoshich7676 "Imagine independence fighters in 1776 or Americans 1812 hearing/thinking/knkwinf England will be US ally. "
That's not example of "no perpetual interest". That's example of "no perpetual enemy".
"Or French and English in 1942 that Germany will be their ally. "
Same. "No perpetual enemy".
What Palmerston stated was the perpetual interest of England to protect their homeland. And from that, come the policy of "preventing anyone to reign supreme in mainland Europe". Whenever a European power seems to be on the verge of become top dog (Frederick, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, ...), they will support the opponents.
That's how England seemed so easily to change their alliance. Because to them, there are no perpetual ally nor perpetual enemy, only perpetual interest.
@@gorilladisco9108 I agree with you on first part and I acknowledged it. I was adding the point of how pointless (for individuals) it is to fight in wars in such changing environment. Additionally, England is changing as well. It was Mercia, Wessex, Northumbria, east Anglia and was invaded by Vikings, Saxons, French/Normans. Then it invaded/colonized Scotland, Ireland, Wells, Northern America, India, Africa, Australia. Over last 70 years, It sharply declined in military and real economy aspects. Also, England's population is dramatically changing by decade. Therefore, due to these changes, interests may change as well. The only constant thing over time is perpetual change. 😀
'We must put an end to war; before war puts and end to us'-!!!
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
I thought JFK was dead?
How pathetic is it 10:42 that nato cant match russia alone in shell production
Time for France to expand it arms industry, talk to me again when you can make over a MILLION 155mm shells in one year, nobody, not even America can. Remember how many shells and weapons you made during WW I? - yeah, like that. Time to invest in factories and steel production for everyone in the west - Russia might have started something it does not want.
Putin never wanted this war but NATO did.
@@spudwesth Nobody wanted this war; but Putin did it anyway. No he has a war that nobody, even Putin wants. If NATO wanted a war, it would be over by now... one way or another.
America can... they don't want to... at least not yet.
@@spudwesth russias big brain move to "deter nato" just got more countries to join nato and more people to support nato in a time when member nations were calling it useless and were debating disbanding it. it was just a land grab use ur noggin dude
@user-vg7mu6yn5o I am loving this return of France! Not the uncool france with social services of the mid 20th century. No, I am talking to the cool France of the 19th century and early 20th century. Work for the glory of the nation! Slava the return of the peaceful 19th century!!
hopeless
I actually appreciate a politician that doesn’t cling dogmatically to their positions.
Support Independence for CORSICA 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
France is all talk.
France is sending 100s of VABs and Astor 30s this year.
If you say so
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys..
Putin is all bark with his nuclear threats.
We're in month 26 with no mushroom clouds yet.
Apparently he has his baby-daddy Xi to answer to.😂
France is no more French.
I have allot of respect for France now
Like wine and cheese do ya?
NATO has planned to use Finland as fighting ground and Finnish army as their ground force for the meatgrinder.
AGREE!
French have deployed troops to Moldova...
Nice try, Rusky.
Source?
Macron is like a ‘big stick diplomacy’ kind of guy. I don’t like him but I can respect it.
i think he just tired of not getting the response he wanted from putin
Yea, after Pootin screwed the french /us over in niger, they're mad.
True "speak softly carry a big stick" was our best foreign policy. Power is wasted thrown around indiscriminately.
Great…..he’ll be well equipped to fight with his big sticks and stones post WW3. He’s a fool.
He’s right.
i agree
That's called overcompensating. Macron is the same person who called Nato brain dead, invited Putin on every occasion before the war and used to say Russia "shouldn't be humiliated" at the begining of it.
There's no contradiction here. With Trump and Erdogan in power, with a blocked US congress, NATO is indeed braindead. Macron's position is perfectly coherent.
He was right to say that, pushing nato all the way to russias doorstep was a brain dead move, he tried to do everything he could to stop the war when russia performed not as effectively as everyone thought they could, but now russia has learned from their battlefield mistakes and are winning, he knows that victory in ukraine will embolden russia to be more aggressive towards western europe and its only a matter of time before war could be at their doorstep, so france has to get ready and cant be reliant on the us anymore
Nato is brain dead indeed, the US, by fear of upsetting Putin is cutting support to ukraine, THAT amounts to a 180° U-turn and technically the US is pushing the Ukrainiens under the bus.
As a reminder the US is Nato's leader, with such a leader who can trust Nato???
Humiliation is always utterly improductive, and the a felt humiliation by the Russians in general and poutin in particular is what triggered this war in the first place.
For a recall the US entered WW2 ONLY because the Germans declared war on them, and the Germans did not have nukes, Russia does.
Calling nato brain dead did set the motions in waking up Nato, and Macron did his best to treat putin with respect and try to talk sense to him, he did much more than any other president did.
Macro called it himself “strategic ambiguity”, so is it just rhetoric?
I totally agree with macron.
Napoleon, Hitler, Macron... third time's the charm.
Mexico stands with Russia 🇷🇺
Viva Putin
Obviously you don't actually know about Frances capabilities. France isn't ready.
France army in the meat grind with Russia? I doubt it they have trained all their lives to fight revels with rifles
Then why wait? Enlist, you beta soyboy, and show us how strong you are. Do it now
Little Mad Man
We will see
No mention of Minsk...
No one except Russian sowers of mis-information mentions Minsk.
Nope, this is a pro war propaganda channel
Bots
Minsk, what? The Agreements that Russia never bothered to implement? That's what you mean?
Wanna mention the security agreements of Ukraine getting rid of it's nukes with the promise from Russia to never cross it's frontiers in 1990/1?
Compaired to most nation France army is set up for exhibition deployment. This puts them in a good position to act independently from the rest of Europe if they decide to go in. For that reson I would say they are not bluffing and will deploy if shit hits the fan.
If Macron were to deploy independently I doubt they would be alone for long. It would be better done by a NATO intervention but I don't see that happening unless article 5 is required.
France does a little dance but has no fight.
@@basillah7650 I think France will prove you wrong should they deploy.
@@basillah7650 o it has fight its just can't do large front warfare like the usa. It would pick a region and dominate there.
Good. Yes please
they can try f*ck around and find out lol
Isn't it a shame that the European union, and the UK, aren't on the same page in recognising that they are the ones who have to defend European democracy. With the potential for a Trump Whitehouse, we need to move into gear whether the yanks are with us or not.
Were not with you
As an American and veteran, I think that’s a capital idea. But before I continue I’m omitting the usual American response of “It’s about time that you Europeans take charge of your own defence and not expect us to cover your butts.” Stupid statement I do not agree with. But it is of my opinion that my country has lost a bit of confidence within the European community on our dependability in regards to the defence of Europe.
Even in tg
Defend European democracy from what exactly? You would think that nuclear war is a far more concerning outcome. I guess its an unsurprising comment from someone your age.
"War is young men dying and old men talking"
Franklin D. Roosevelt
@@Suhbrill you are though you have no choice
@@MikeDarr61 Except Japan, Australia and a few other countries, nobody likes USA, EU is all you guys have left, you are either with us or you'll get in deep **** sooner or later.
The Berezina is very cold in winter.
I hope they learned from Napoleon and Hitler to bring coats for winter 😂
As long as France does not try to fight the rest of europe at the time time, they'll be fine.
Same for germany, as long as they don't try to fight everyone, they'll do ok.
Really, it is for the russians that I am worried, because unless they were supported by all the other great powers, they have lost all their wars against France or Germany.
Napoleonic troops suffered more from typhus than from the cold during the Russian campaign.
We're not in winter anymore. Oh and we're not in the early 19th century anymore either.
@@benoitbvg2888 We’re just joking. It’s just meming to say that french will be invaded in WW3 and america will save them again, or that they can’t handle the cold, or haven’t won any war since Napoleon… all memes. Don’t take it too seriously… unless the person is serious about it…
Either, it is Macron's incompetence or Sun Tzu's Art of War "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak".
Day 770 of Russia being slapped around eastern Ukraine. 20k losses in exchange for Avdiivka. Hows that for incompetence.
Yet youtubers still think that Russia is in the same league as EU.
(which has a 300 million population advantage btw).
@@tedcrilly46 Oh WOW, you are so well informed. EU is a great power, united and strong. It certanly can and will prevail over Russia that has it's economy in taters, using chips from kichen appliances and showels to fight. As it happened so many times before, like united Europe under Napoleon and mustache guy after him. The only difference is that Europe is a shell of it's colonial and industrial past and is fully internationally dependent for it's energy supply. And Russia now has nuclear weapons. The saving grace for EU is the fact it can collapse before it is cause too much damage to it's members.
When your man crush ghosts you so you try to out him him to make him see what he's missing.
Macron's theatrics are about the French exit from the Sahal region of Africa. The French had exploited Africa for decades. Wagner and its GRU successor have filled the void of the French exit from Africa.
Exactly this. France got their asses handed to them in Africa, and Russia took over as Africa's new colonizer.
now africans can compare the 2 colonizers@@dave_riots
@@dave_riots"got their asses handed to them" is an overdramatic way of saying they were asked to leave and left
What did they lose in Africa?
Colonies
What France was doing in Africa is despicable ! How on earth can the world keep mum on such blatant colonialism ???
As opposed to Russian colonialism in Ukraine? Stay on subject.
What did France do in Africa exactly?
You are speaking about the colonization? Which was a boon for west africa: friendly reminder, when the french came to Africa no so long ago, in the late 19th century, there was cannibalism, slavery, mass human sacrifices, constant tribal wars and extremely low life expectancy. Colonization has led to the boom of the african population through medecine, state building and agriculture, plus nearly all the infrastructures there present to this day were built by the french.
Africa has always been a money sink for France (contrary to its profitable new world colonies). And while back in the days, France was ready to act directly against african leaders to keep direct control, nowadays, France is truly a benefactor. Giving huge amounts of money in aid, civilian and military.
The only ennemies of France in Africa are dictators who made coups against their democracies, and as France requiers return to democracy in exchange of their aid, those dictators go to another dictature, Russia, for help.
Things are heating up
Putin:
Gremlin in the Kremlin!
😂
France was playing checkers when Russia played chase. France just lost most of its uranium and cheap oil from Africa
Uranium in Africa is not worth a penny because it huge quantities in Australia and Canada, friendly countries
@@volodymyrmarenko6573 COPE LMAO
macron should have enforced the minsk agreements. the fool had a big part to play in the start of this war
Or maybe he should have helped Ukraine from the start to stop russians gain experience and lessen the threat to NATO?
France be crazy to enter this war
Desperation on the part of FRANCE 😂 losing the ability to steal and exploit African resources, will crush the French economy 😅
Good idea
Europe and Britain need a regime change to spend money on its citizens. Not a war economy spending money on defence - against what we may ask?
A, philosophical and practical comment
@@angelawhitehead6187 Instead of asking such question, just study a little bit of history...
@@Josian-ps7fb gotta be China Eh? Most disliked country by Britain and France. Not history Jo but geo politics. Ah could be Russia of course. A few more possible options too.
Russia. Your not naive enough to believe it would stop with Ukraine. Putin said it wouldn't. Russia has no boundaries!
WWII was a hard reminder, for my own country, and for Great Britain too I guess, of one of the basic of basics in human geo political history: "Si vis pacem, para bellum". "If you want peace, prepare for war". Even if you don't want to go to war, war can come to you. That has been even more true in thevicinity of empires, as shown by millenias of exemples.
Actually, Russia is the country which feels itself as an empire, and wages war in its neigborhoods while saying the outside (the others "powers") wants them destroyed. Not that the other countries are "angels", as there are no angels in geopolitics, but the outside is not that interested in waging war or territorial invasions against such a tall country.
Viva Macron and his people.
France does not declare everything it gives.
Well boyos, time to invest into Military Defense Contractors.
suspend treaty on conventional armed forces in europe
Here's a million rifles dropped twice but never fired
Bravo. Europe needs more strong leaders right now. 👍
France has 114,000 men total in the military! Good F-ing luck!
@@manumanu-li3fevery stupid take. Do u think or you just assume. Inexperienced army taking on a well oiled experienced army. It stupid to think France will even last long in a war with Russia
@@manumanu-li3fe Actual fighting is what hardens armies not drills on the riviera. Those 500k troops are battle tested.
@@manumanu-li3fe I mean good luck, if you think a very good soldiers will take more bullet. The modern war, doesn’t even need good soldiers, it is all missile system and drone.. so well trained soldiers, with the exception of Air Force means very very little. And just FYI Russia being years in to war, they have better field equipment then every one at the moment. That is why NATO equipment are not doing much on the field. Even precision missile are being effected and not that effective.
@darnikolapo2858
Ukraine was meant to last 3-14 days, but it's been over 2 years, and the war is still ongoing. Now you're here again, making predictions about how small and weak other militaries are. Why do you say things that blatantly aren't true?
@@jakel8627 the real Ukraine without the support of the West won't last this long. It is very stupid to now say the Russian military is incompetent when the whole of Europe and the US are pushing their best to support Ukraine against Russia but still Ukraine has nothing to show for it.
The Taurus doesn't have a longer range than the Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG. They're very much in the same class of weapons and have a similar range (500+ km). It is just that France (and the UK) has a nerfed export version to comply with Missile Technology Control Regime guidelines. The French one was developed as a result of a deal with the UAE (Black Shaheen variant, with a range up to 290 km). The UK, meanwhile, nerfed the missiles it sent to Ukraine down to a range of 250 km IIRC.
And calling the French military an average-sized military, which would make undertaking such an endeavor alone difficult, is more pertinent than calling it an average military. If France has an "average military", then one might ask how many "above average" militaries there are in the world in regard to size, technology, training and experience.
Needs to be done
Macron best leader in NATO and the west.
Ukraine needs reliable allies. The US has done much but the stalling is crippling the ability to win. I hope they don’t abandon their friends like they have done so often in history post-ww2.
Vive Le France! Vive le liberte! 🇫🇷
Stalling? The United States has given them more than ukraines entire GDP!
Europe can take the rest of the blame. The US should stop entirely.
This is Europes issue.
I take it you will be on the frontlines then?
To send troops into Ukraine would be madness. By doing so would be an out right declaration of war from a major NATO country. And in doing so is not only giving Putin an excuse to use Tactical Nukes but would be playing chicken with a man that has nothing to lose.
Why would NATO sending troops into Ukraine be a declaration of war on Russia? When Russia sent troops into Ukraine, was it a declaration of war on NATO?
It was neither when Russian pilots flew North Corean Migs.
They are already doing that
Mrs Lepen openly admired Poutine (she cannot do so openly now, but still, we know what side she's on, she's always side by side with Orban). Her words are not surprising unfortunatly.
Autocrats love company
@@manumanu-li3fe You might want to look at recent polls.
Even if you don’t like putin how can you not admire him he’s constantly made the west look like incompetents and he isn’t afraid to call western leaders out on their crap and hypocrisy plus he constantly puts Russian interests first there’s a reason he’s very popular in Russia and when he became leader living standards in Russia drastically improved I don’t like him but I can respect him
@@MN-vz8qmIt doesn't mean she doesn't like Putin and his autocratic ways. Polls can change, one week to the next.
@@Payteer I was answering to someone who said that she couldn't win the french elections.
The loudest war voices never seem to go to the front, how is that?
Pretty simple answer: Soldiers on active military duty do not engage in public discussions of that sort, nor do they serve as national leaders. Any more easy questions?😂
@@dixonpinfold2582 What gets larger the more you take away from it?
@@kennethflaming8606 Hey, I know that one. The answer is _You._
It's funny because it's true.😄
Well cuz you don't go there to hear it😂😂😂
IT'S NICE TO SEE LITTLE MAC PUT ON HIS BIGBOY PANTS !. NOW MAYBE HE CAN GROW A PAIR !.
He seems to be learning a lot over the course of that special military operation in operation just a thousand miles away.
Love France. It's a very rich and powerful country that us Brits are lucky enough to have as a neighbour 🇬🇧🇫🇷
@jakel8627 yes! Go Macron! Keep gutting your social safety net by bypassing parliament because "there's no money" and then spend wildly on weapons! Viva la France!
Sorry to say that since it appears the US can no longer be counted on for any help defending freedom or its allies then someone needs to step up.
Yeah. Why don't you step up?!🎉
I feel like it's an insult to any leader when Germany tells you "you need to be doing more"
Because Germany is the bastion of military integrity 😂😂😂😂😂
Love my french brother from Germany.
Macron is right. As uncomfortable as this seems.
There is a French election in the summer.
No there is not.
@@mmarsh1972 There is.
@@mmarsh1972 The next elections are the European elections.
The election of French representatives to the European Parliament will take place on June 8 or 9, 2024,