Sigma 24-70 DG DN II: A 1/2 Priced, Better Built G Master.
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- In this video I check out the all-new Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN II and do a quick comparison to my Tamron 28-75mm G2. You can read more and buy the Sigma here: geni.us/halfpricedGM
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Sigma seems dedicated to quality first, other considerations after. The same can't be said for all other companies.
It depends entirely what quality you are looking for. Ultimate IQ? The GM. Ultimate portability? The 28-70. What seems like a good compromise between portability, functions and IQ? Yes indeed.
The only thing that lets my Sigma 85 f1.4 down is build quality
Nice review showing the lens in a real world test rather than test charts etc. I also like it when you have a comparison image right along side and pan around, you used to do a lot more of this.🙂
i reallly like how your picture slide change perfectly to the beat of the track.Awesome
Beautiful photos ,I have the sigma 24-1.4 and it's brilliant.
I always wait for your videos.. great to see videos made by you. Very informative.. ❤
I just saw the news of the lens on Google, and I went to CZcams to type in "Arthur Sigma 70-200 ii" And it said you posted this video 24 minutes ago. Great timing!
Excellent as Usual!!!
And this will be on my 1st sigma lens. I'm glad that i didn't buy the version 1 yet.. Thanks for the review Sir..
This might be my first lens for when I finally get a full frame camera. And as usual, thanks for a great and to-the-point review, Arthur. 👍🏽
Personally I'm debating between the A7C with the Sigma 28-70 or my A6600 with the Sigma 18-50. The 28-70 is compact, but the 18-50 is so tiny and light. It's perfect for being on the go and casually taking pictures. Same with the Sony 18-135 vs Tamron 28-200. FF lens has better aperture even ignoring equivalence and it's better optically too. But the Sony is so small and practical for the kind of travel where you'd want a super zoom in the first place.
Thumbnail of the year! Yeah!!!!!!
Amazing as always. Have you tested it also on aps-c? For us who want to future proof the lens for a full-frame later.
As a user of the original A7C with the missing front dial I would think you would appreciate the added aperture ring on the version 2 Sigma. Personally the aperture ring is a must have for me. I’m glad Sony has added it tonight all there GM And GM II lenses. I’ve had the Sony 24-70/2.8 GM II now for two years so I won’t be buying the Sigma but still a nice addition to their collection. Take care.
you are truly blessed to have a great modeling group built in.
The lens although a little heavier than I'm used to seeing, is as they say built to take it.
Seems like it's more along the lines of the heavy but high quality Viltrox primes you seem to prefer now.
I'm on the fence about switching to an A7C II or a A6700. I shoot mostly stills, and what I have is in APSC.
Is it worth it to take a huge hit now or work with both as a split system, taking advantage of size for the one, and image
quality for the other?
Thanks, Nice edit
man as a hobbyist, the half price tag is just too good. ive been looking for a 24-70 and I was gunna cop the 28-70 C lens from sigma but im willing to shell out a couple more for this art version 2. i mean if this was my job ill probably go for the sony but man it seems so close... 1k more close? i dunno
I love Sigma lenses. Though, my Sony 24-105 f/4 still holds its own on my a7iii. However, I may get this down the road. I have aps-c trio and the 70-200 2.8 (my favorite Sigma lens).
was thinking of getting sigma 28-70, since my other lens had broke and I have just been renting, but this with that focus which is an issue at weddings, I'm considering it. what's the weight of the lens compared to the others?
your compound is very beautiful.
Τhat statement at 1:28 is why i love Sigma. I need some heft in my lenses and cameras. They should not feel like a plastic toy.
I would love to see a comaprison with the GM II especially with the autofocus
Time flies so fast, thank you for your valuable opinions, your children have grown up cutely.
Very good.!
I love sigma 28-70 f2.8 because it’s very small for such a zoom full frame lens with f2.8 and actually it’s parafocal 😊
I like 28-70/2.8, there is something very pleasant about pictures, perhaps its pretty smooth bokeh and out of focus transition. The only negatives is that it's rather soft, especially at 70mm, and I really prefer starting at 24mm. I had 24-70/2.8 version one and absolutely loved everything about it except it's heavy weight.
That’s true, 28-70 is not very sharp at 70mm but it is good enough, and about 28mm it is obviously not as wide as 24mm but I don’t miss 24mm because it’s not my favorite focal length and previously I’ve used Sony 24-105 f4 which had greater range of focal lengths, but I’m tired of it’s weight and sold it , to buy this Sigma 28-70 and I’m happy with it being compact and still having good range of focal lengths 😊
@@shamildmc yeah, it's weight and size definitely make it a very attractive choice. I personally like this lens more than Tamron 28-75, which I end up returning.
I’ve never used Tamron but someone says it’s a little bit sharper than sigma 28-70. This may seem a little bit strange but I don’t like the design of tamron and it’s a little bit bigger. All in all Tamron is still good lens too and this is great that , there are a lot of great options of lenses on Sony cameras
It’s not parfocal, it uses software to refocus as you zoom. Not that it’s that big of an issue or problem, just that the lens isn’t physical parfocal.
Great lens, I own both the 24-70 and 28-70 sigma lenses and for the most part go for the 28-70 just because it’s so much lighter to carry around and balances really well on a gimbap
Are there any other reviews that go over video? Video is my main concern and have yet to find one about it
How is this lens on the fx30
How this compares to tamron 28-75 g2(which is cheaper also...)???
Hi Arthur.
Saya dari indonesia menyukai saluran youtube anda karena jujur memberi ulasan.
Video anda panutan saya untuk membeli lensa.
Saya menunggu perbandingan antara Sigma 28-70 F2.8 DG DN & tamron 28-75 F2.8 VDX G2
Salam
Some will know that I'll say it's way too heavy still 😉. Great video, as usual!
what about the dust resistance ????
At Sigma 24 70 no1 was very easy to dust dots to came inside the glass, like ridiculous easy. Like , one walk at the park was enough..
Hello, if you have a Lens Sony 24-105 F4 do you buy this New sigma's Lens?
Some other reviewers say the loca and the close focus IQ are both terrible. Do you have any input on that?
I didn’t test loca, but at 24mm close up image quality was excellent. I saw Chris Frosts review and I’m curious why his “close up image quality” photo was so terrible. At 24mm it was great but whatever he shot at before didn’t look good. At the end of the day these are all pre-production lenses that may have some differences and small issues.
what's loca?
@@ArthurR This makes sense. Thank you. Let's hope it is a pre-production issue as a lot of us are considering this lens.
@@yannguerin3164 Loca is short for longitudinal chromatic aberration, in other words false colors before and after the plane of focus.
@@DjimmyTrovy Thank you for that :)
I just got the previous 24-70 dg dn lens a month ago 😭
Sigma seems to have shadows lifted a bit even while keeping good blacks still, deeem seems like a cool lens, won't buy it at least for now, but it's cool lens xD
This or 16-55 for the a6700 give me opinions
The 16-55.
You mean the sony 16-55?
I love my Sigma 24-70mm. I don't see why I need to upgrade. The only downside, it's a heavy lens 😂
I’m looking forward to some bargains in the used market!
Haha this is a good way to think about it!
I went with the sigma 28-70 just because of how light it is. I find that 95% of the time this focal range works for me.
We need some proves.
lol no
Northrup’s had trouble with eye autofocus w the new Sigma. Did you notice anything?
Mine didn’t have any problems at all with eye AF or eye tracking.
A lot of reviewers would note that this lens is total overkill for a 24MP camera, even more so on a full frame 24MP camera. If a lens can resolve past the capability of the sensor, what is the point in resolving 2 times that capability. As in, why buy a Sony GM lens for even a Sony A7iv (33MP) when a G lens does the trick, i.e. as perfect as even pixel peepers can tell--marginally faster focus but….
I've been using a Sigma 35 Art 1.4 for the last... maybe 5 years already? It's a great piece of optics, BUT, it's heavy as hell, the chromatic aberration is really something, and since I use it also for astro, it's like... damn it.
Don't get me wrong, Sigma is making amazing lenses, but they do not care, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES about the weight of their lenses. It's like, OK, we need this focal with this features. Awesome boss, we got it. But it's 17 kgs. OK then, but it's way to heavy.... OK.
Aside from that, they're making awesome products.
Are we going to get any Sony APSC lens soon cause...
It's 100g lighter than v1 -- sold!
At that weight on A6400 shouldn't I seriously consider Tamron 17 -70 f2.8 VC?
Why would you be considering this lens at all for APS-C? It would only make sense if you were planning to upgrade to full frame relatively soon.
None the less using this on a apsc body would be fine. Just remember to the crop factor so this would be a 36-105. The cool thing using FF glass in a apsc body is your using the best part of the glass.
Only get a FF body when ready, and when needed. Don't mind the haters 😊
@@HagaishiSama Sure but it's a 740g lens. It makes no sense to stick with aps-c if you're going to buy $1200, 740g FF zoom lenses lol.
@harshil102 I get it but mind you. Alot of photographers like myself don't mind a lens that has some weight to it. I hold my camera up while photographing fighting for 30mins or more at a time. So it don't bother me. What I care about is reach speed and quality. Nothing wrong with light lens but as a man that's the last thing I worry about when it cones ro capturing professional fighters.
And yes the Tamron 17-70mm is a excellent choice for any or the Sony apsc cameras. And being able ro get so close to a subject and get focus, it's almost like a sudo macro lens. One of my favorite glass in my kit
In times of mirrorless cameras, Sigma should definitely place more emphasis on lightweight construction. I would usually pay a few hundred more for a Sony lens that is smaller, lighter and also technically and optically better. If it were lighter though, the situation might be different.
Omg, I watched 4 reviews (Christofer Frost, Chris&Jordan, Gerald Undone and you), and everyone sees completely different results in all aspects of this lens, except maybe center sharpness!
And it's not the case of "you should watch more reviews to get comprehensive opinion", no, it's just like y'all got very different lenses. I can't build ANY opinion this time.
your voice seem you are not feeling well , hope you better soon brother
Thank you, hopefully I get my voice back soon.
Still the old DSLR design rehoused.
That longitudinal chromatic aberration though. Lol. /s
Your room is too dark bro
Great lens For sure..... But the tamron for HALF the money used is unbeatable. Sure the Sigma may be slightly better, but it is also heavier, almost twice the price and you are definitely not getting twice the performance. Seriously, other than the 4 mm there is no reason to spend that much more on a lens. Honestly if you put the pictures side by side and asked others to guess it would be a 50 50 chance as THERE IS NO WAY you could tell the difference in real world performance. Not saying it isnt a great lens, but not that much better than the Tamron G2 IMO.
You could but the Tamron AND a nice Prime for that much money, just sayin!😊😊
I agree with you, the upgrade is more tempting because of the build feel more than the optics (at least to me). But it is still a $700ish upgrade, which is not worth it for a lens I don’t use very often at all.
What's with the comment about the strength of the U.S. dollar? It's strong compared to other currencies and has been getting stronger since the middle of 2023.
The dollar doesn't buy what it used to. You can call it inflation, but its the dilution of value.
@@ArthurR The original Sigma 24-70 DN costs a bit more than it did at release around 2020 (around 100USD more) herearound. Sigma's lenses aren't the only ones that have gotten steadily more expensive instead of less so. Small currency isn't great in uncertain times, I think.
I have an A7C and would rather get the 28-70 DN (if that lens is ever rebated again), I like the Sigma 24/2 DN too much (handling, optics) to care for a 24-70 zoom.
I can see that the pictures are as flat as a pancake, somehow i think it`s not that good price performance wise.
Also the bluish harsh hue is included for your money once more.
I think i stick to Sony GM, because you get what you pay for.
Sigma lenses are so sexy 😍
Why is Sony glass so freaking expensive? Is it the built-in stabilization whereas the other lenses don't have that? That's nuts.
That and Sony lenses seem to have better AF. But it’s usually just marginally better.
Sony intentionally limits 3rd party lenses. This lens can do 15fps on an A1, but the G Master can do 30fps. I think it’s a stupid move, but I guess that’s how they can charge 2x the price for cheaper feeling lenses.
@@ArthurR oh yeah, that makes sense. i know that's an issue with my sigma 70-200 (15fps).
Come on this review came out three days after I shelled out €1100 for the 20-70G 🤣🤣🤣.
I have the Tamron 28-70 G1. Still good enough for me. Nice SKX btw.
Bokeh-Balls seemed a Bit like cat eyes?
Please state in the video title if the lens you are reviewing is APSC or full frame.
He did! DG DN is full frame DC DN is aps-c
@@GuitarRJP I suppose thats helpful if you know the manufactures specific naming conventions. Less so otherwise.
FYI I looked it up. Sigma uses DG for full frame, the DN on both just means mirrorless.
1st 😊
Just because a lens is metal does not make it better built. My sigma 85mm f1.4 has not fared well. The metal part of that lens looks terrible with chips all over it. It's lost all its value as it looks like I've abused the lens. My 5 GM lenses including the 24-70 MKII all look like new despite being treated in the same way. I love the images from my sigma 85 but its poor metal quality has put me off buying another sigma. Oddly the plastic parts of the sigma still look like new
Tamron not made in japan
The G2 is.
@@ArthurR oh wow. Thought those were only “designed” in Japan. My mistake!
I'll stick with my 18-135mm Sony kit lense.
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