Series Update | War in the Pacific: Admiral’s Edition | Allied Victory? | PBEM vs Hartwig

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    In today's video we return or our War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition series vs a new opponent, Hartwig.

    ► Summary: Introducing a new PBEM series of Matrix/Slitherine’s game, War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
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    War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition - www.matrixgames.com/products/3...
    War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition, is a monster turn based strategy game which puts you in the shows of either the Allies or the Imperial Japanese military during World War II. Based on the award winning War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games and Matrix Games, the standalone expansion, Gary Grigsby’s War in the Pacific - Admiral’s Edition, adds significant improvements and changes to the original title to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific - Admiral's Edition is the most realistic and engrossing WWII Pacific theatre game available. The immense scale is 40 miles per hex with losses covering individual vehicles, aircraft, guns and squads. Since half the planet Earth is covered by the titanic Pacific struggle, the game is massive in scope, covering thousands of ships tens of thousands of aircraft.
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Komentáře • 56

  • @brooksriley9659
    @brooksriley9659 Před rokem +17

    I’ve really enjoyed this series and would love to see more of this game on the channel though if this series isn’t likely to be revived I would support you restarting the series as the Japanese player though either way this has been a enjoyable watch

  • @dbo5451
    @dbo5451 Před rokem +10

    I really like this series as one of my favorites, due to the sheer amount of micro detail. It’s a sad day to know it won’t be on for a very long while, but one thing I don’t get is that if, the values were altered to give Japan a better advantage, why stop? Was there more that these new values produce better outcomes for the Allies as the war progressed? That would be the only thing I can think of.

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před rokem

      Some changes give Japan an advantage, some do not, there's a wide variety of changes, and I imagine if you don't normally play with those changes you may not feel comfortable knowing what you're getting into. For me it doesn't matter, cause I don't know how to play differently, I've only ever played with those changes.

  • @lofiloop9124
    @lofiloop9124 Před rokem +6

    Bummer. I was looking forward to see the end result in like 8-10 years... ;-)
    This game really requires an enormous amount of dedication timewise. But it was fun as long as it lasted. Well, more time to play other things....

  • @conmcgrath7174
    @conmcgrath7174 Před měsícem

    I have followed from day one, sorry it seems to end like this. It's been great entertainment and I've been waiting for the Allied 'push-back' literally for years, bummer! But thank you Sir and also the noble opponents, it's been a blast.
    Pax vobiscum.

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před měsícem

      There’s another 22 episodes in the playlist after this one (and still going).

  • @NoobsofFredo
    @NoobsofFredo Před rokem +3

    A real shame to see this (probably) end, it's been my most-anticipated upload from you by far for quite some time now.
    I'll second what Brooks Riley said in another comment in that if this is the end of the series, it'd be cool to see you paying as Japan in another series.

  • @ckjay8914
    @ckjay8914 Před rokem +2

    I guess I lost my bet on who's WWII would be over first, Historical Gamer or Indy Neidell's WWII channel

  • @Macquarrie1999
    @Macquarrie1999 Před rokem +7

    I have loved the series, it got me into playing War and the Pacific, but I think it is time to call the series. The Japanese players just don't last long enough to have a good game come out of it.

  • @Doc_Tar
    @Doc_Tar Před rokem

    Thanks for the update. I'm going to dive into this game sometime soon, maybe this winter when there's not much else to do.

  • @Hecate101
    @Hecate101 Před rokem +1

    Sorry to see this game come to a conclusion but I understand. Hopefully you can maybe do another one in the future, I really enjoyed watching your playthrough.

  • @jamenta2
    @jamenta2 Před rokem

    Thanks historicalgamer for doing this unique series of WitP. It's an obviously niche game but it seems like there really is no other Pacific War game that even comes close to the realism this game offers and detail. So your videos were both enjoyable and instructive over these last two years! I've watched them off and on - hard to believe time passes so quickly. Looking forward to any future games you pick up and stream. By the way, have you tried Imperator Rome? It's release was not great, but Paradox made some impressive updates since release - including a much updated UI, and the game really has some very good depth and game playing polish, and seems especially suited for historical depth. Cheers.

  • @saltydodger9597
    @saltydodger9597 Před rokem +1

    Pity, we never seem to get to see what later war witp would look like with the Japanese on the defensive.

  • @lineofdeparture3584
    @lineofdeparture3584 Před rokem

    loved it

  • @arnoboers8278
    @arnoboers8278 Před rokem

    Darn, this was my favorite series on your channel, but you do you, and who knows in the future 🙂🙂 maybe an allies vs computer to show what the allies could have done in the future

  • @larryoconnor9160
    @larryoconnor9160 Před rokem

    I have enjoyed your cam-pain. : ) I have learned things, such as reforming your larger units with components. Still need to learn things like how you used Scout bombardment spotters off your CAs and BBs. Q. Does this mean your Sub Driver with that lot of bad Mk-14s will get to stay in the service, he was the only one.
    Will likely rewatch your saga in case I missed any episodes to "like". LQQking forward to another tour if you have another go at Witp-AE. Will enjoy seeing how you redo (and/or ignore) what you already know (will know). Well done.

  • @spockelope6738
    @spockelope6738 Před rokem +1

    3 years of playtime
    153 episodes
    4 opponents
    And the date is still only May 1942.
    That's just insane.

  • @synthelione3714
    @synthelione3714 Před rokem +1

    Can we at least get a look through the statistics like the names of the warships sunk, or the number of aces and the like?

  • @Rayrard
    @Rayrard Před rokem

    I know this has started and ended a few times, but still want to express interest in you playing another campaign or scenario if you want to keep it short. This game is what got me on your channel!

  • @joshdavis3743
    @joshdavis3743 Před rokem +1

    I think you should just start a new WITP with somebody.

  • @stephennancarrow4418
    @stephennancarrow4418 Před rokem +1

    :( Hope you can maybe start another game. Has been interesting watching and I am thinking of getting this game sometime soon. Looks like an epic game to play ... just got to find the time to get into it :)

  • @benleman649
    @benleman649 Před rokem +3

    What a shame. This was my favorite kind of video on your channel. But in its current state it will be hard for you to find a Japanese player to pick up the game. And starting the series over would probably take too much time unless both you and your new opponent were extremely dedicated to moving things along.

  • @stanleyrosella7042
    @stanleyrosella7042 Před rokem

    How sad this is. This game doesn't looks to be possible to get beyond May 1942 on many YT channels. You have been struggling on and that's good.
    Do please inform what of the many "adjusted" DB this one really is. Some like from AndyMac is not very much changed but then we got much more variants and "updates"
    I think another "official" update might be in the works too.
    Fingers crossed for a restart/continuation, but if it's a final ending I salute you for sticking with it these several years, and gone out finding one player after the other to step into the hopeless shoes of Japan.

  • @dans.5745
    @dans.5745 Před rokem

    I don't know any of the details of the database changes you mentioned, however there are still various changes that can be made in the Editor Module to give some benefits to the Japanese player, that would allow a Japanese player to feel like he has a better chance to make the game competitive. I don't understand why Hartwig bailed without exploring other options.

  • @NCKJS
    @NCKJS Před rokem

    SURREY TO SEE IT GO! AFTER ALL THIS TIME

  • @dougjb7848
    @dougjb7848 Před rokem

    I figured either your opponent couldn’t continue for some reason, or you were still playing but focusing on putting other games on YT and maybe future episodes of WITP would encompass multiple turns.
    I’m sad to see this one end, but glad it wasn’t because an opponent either rage-quit or had some serious life interruption.
    I hope you feel better soon.

  • @Drcritique
    @Drcritique Před rokem

    It's because of you THG that i play this game today. One of the best series. Maby play against de IA? Or ask The Develish Mr. Lodrick? He play against others youtubers.

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke Před rokem +1

    Damn that is is shame.

  • @jochenheiden
    @jochenheiden Před rokem +1

    I feel like this has been an Allied victory for a year. I think it’s time to finish this up.

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před rokem

      Well the game is designed to be an allied victory… Japan winning isn’t really the objective for a Japanese player.

    • @jochenheiden
      @jochenheiden Před rokem +1

      @@thehistoricalgamer tell that to Hellsen and other Japanese players that have repeatedly auto-victoried their opponents. With respect, do what you want of course, but all of your precious opponents of this particular PBEM have squandered all of the opportunities Japan has to be truly competitive. The window of opportunity has come and gone. Any future opponent will be signing up to be a pin cushion/punching bag for you now. It’s fun, it’s not compelling for a viewer any longer. My humble advice to you would be to claim victory, as you should, and officially end this series. That’s just my advice to you as a fellow WitP player and Allied PBEM operator.

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před rokem +4

      I don’t find Japanese players (not referring to my opponents because they resigned for other reasons), who quit the second the game turns against them as players I would have any interest in playing. They expect the allied player to play through the tough times and then don’t return the favor, the WITP community has a bit of an issue with many Japanese (not all), players who only play until midway happens to them.

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před rokem +4

      Also being “able” to win doesn’t mean the game is intended as such. The auto victory was merely added to the game as some sort of arbitrary thing for a Japanese player to strive for as a way to give them an early war objective. I wonder if the game would be better without it… certainly I think the 1942, auto victory is probably not a good design choice, it leads to very short sighted play which creates this all or nothing Japanese bulrush which torpedos any chance at a meaningful middle-late game for anyone who isn’t very disciplined.

  • @Splinter00S
    @Splinter00S Před rokem

    6:21 Wait, are you a Packers fan? Are you a Wisconsinite?

  • @Joe-uc9kf
    @Joe-uc9kf Před rokem +1

    I do not get it. The changes should help the Japanese, and they need some help.

    • @Macquarrie1999
      @Macquarrie1999 Před rokem

      More like the previous players have just given the Japanese player a hopeless mess. I wouldn't want to play it from some of the things I have seen.

  • @FinnishJager
    @FinnishJager Před rokem +1

    THG, I'll play you in a shorter multiplayer scenario

  • @bobk4438
    @bobk4438 Před rokem

    Too bad. I was enjoying it.

  • @cbearabc
    @cbearabc Před rokem

    For those that do not know, go pack go is a secret code? 🤣 😎

    • @dougjb7848
      @dougjb7848 Před rokem +1

      I believe THG lives or at least grew up somewhere near Green Bay WI.

    • @dans.5745
      @dans.5745 Před rokem

      THG is a Brewers fan, says that on his profile. He is from Wisconsin, but he lives and works outside of there now. Maybe somewhere near Chicago.

    • @dougjb7848
      @dougjb7848 Před rokem

      @@dans.5745
      “Go Pack” is about NFL football, not baseball.
      If you’re born in Wisconsin, it’s very rare not to be a fan of the Pack and the Brew Crew.

    • @dans.5745
      @dans.5745 Před rokem

      @@dougjb7848 I know the Packers are NFL & Brewers are MLB. I was just making a point that Wisconsin is most likely his favorite state. I remember watching when Bart Starr was playing.😃

    • @dougjb7848
      @dougjb7848 Před rokem

      @@dans.5745
      Ah sorry! I thought you were insinuating that THG has some allegiance to any sports team based in Chicago.
      If you were, I’d have to slap you silly with cheese hat.
      Bart Starr. Can you say it five times fast?

  • @azopeopaz3059
    @azopeopaz3059 Před rokem

    Personaly i think THIS game is end it not a probleme win or lose it just that the suply in japan side is so mess up with the constante change of player that just for understant the suply line a player need 10 to 20 turn and after that he need 50 turn to make the systeme work and in this time no offencis or deffencif operation could be done . so now either go start a new one or let it repose in peace

    • @thehistoricalgamer
      @thehistoricalgamer  Před rokem +1

      Hartwig did not think the supply situation was that bad. 🤷‍♂️

    • @azopeopaz3059
      @azopeopaz3059 Před rokem

      @@thehistoricalgamer as far as i know it prety bad but anyway i don't think you could continus thsi game exepet if you use a ia

    • @azopeopaz3059
      @azopeopaz3059 Před rokem

      @@thehistoricalgamer You should just rejoy you win and passe to another let play

  • @danmarkspipson
    @danmarkspipson Před rokem

    Start a new game. 😊

  • @skepticalobserver2135

    There hasn't been an official update to WitP:AE since 2015, so what you're saying makes little sense. In any case, the victory conditions for the Japanese should be having more territory than historically by the end of 1943. Anything else makes little sense. Going beyond that point is just an exercise in futility for the Japanese. The Japanese lost the war as soon as it started on December 7, 1941. They don't have the industrial nor manpower capacity to win. Personally, I think the best NON-OFFICIAL update is with the DaBabe series.

    • @dougjb7848
      @dougjb7848 Před rokem +2

      It want an official update. It was a player-community modset, which many use but the current (final) opponent was unaware of.