The Next Generation 4680 Battery Cell Is Here!
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- The Next Generation 4680 Battery Cell Is Here!
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Maybe it's the kid in all of us, but I'm probably not the only one who wanted to see a giant battery.
May be putting this battery into my Milwaukee battery pack :)
Coming in a giant cardboard and plastic packaging alongside a 7 feet receipt
My calculator would last forever with that thing.
The trade off of the Li-ion chemistries (LFP, NMC, NCA) are pretty interesting.
LFP is nice for being cheap due the the relative abundance of its raw materials compared to other chemistries. It also generally has significantly improved cycle lives, surviving roughly twice as many cycles.
NMC and NCA are more expensive with lower cycle lives, but have significantly higher energy densities (in terms of energy per unit volume and energy per unit mass) than LFP. That's why Tesla is segmenting its use of the different chemistries. NMC makes for a denser pack for the long-range vehicles while LFP makes for a cheaper and longer-lasting pack for the standard range vehicles. Tesla even analyzed which battery chemistries should be used for what cases (even talking about ships and planes and the like) with their Master Plan Part 3.
>> LFP is nice for being cheap due the the relative abundance of its raw materials compared to other chemistries.
Love LFP batteries for 4 reasons:
1. You can always charge it to 100%
2. So, you are not carrying around deadweight that you can’t or shouldn’t use for fear of battery degradation.
3. Zero chance of catching on fire.
4. Costs significantly less
What’s not to like about them!
>> 1. You can always charge it to 100% > 3. Zero chance of catching on fire.
@@tooltalk damn rekt for all 3 points
@@tooltalk Flawless Victory
>> 4. Costs significantly less
@@tooltalk Check out the batteries by Magnis Energy. Similar to LFP, but they replace the iron with manganese. Also, Tesla just signed a deal with them for their graphite. * Yes, I AM a shareholder of Magnis and Tesla. ;)
4680 physical volume is 5.48 times more than 2170 volume. Hence energy density remains the same (providing, they claim "4680 has as 5X Energy and 6X Power much as 2170"). So, where's the increase?
Keep upgrading that battery, Elon.
I want a month's worth of charge in a 9 volt container.
However close you can get to that.
I believe that there is a nuclear device that will match your requirements being developed ... google for 'tiny nuclear battery'
@@farvision nuclear batteries are very low power output and will always be that way unfortunately
Excellent content thank you.
soduim will be the biggest player moving forwards😊
Even though the 4680 has 5 times more energy, it’s volume is also 5 times bigger. So the current production that we see in actual cars, the energy in the pack is still the same, just with less (but bigger) battery cells.
Fewer, not less. You can count the cells.
you bring up a good point. we have power generators now. but we dont have many companies that store the power.
CATL and AMPRIUS are on the cusp of manufacturing 500Wh/kg batteries at reasonably high volume, where that leaves Tesla’s 4680 is anyone’s guess. We really have some new battery technologies just around the corner which will give EVs the same, if not more range than ICE cars, if full capacity of these new batteries bought up by Tesla then they will be sold to VW, NEO, FISKER and POLESTAR, potentially making Tesla’s cars inferior to their competitors. So as as much as Tesla wants to keep everything in house, buying CATL, BYD and AMPRIUS batteries denies Tesla’s competitors these very same batteries and allows for Tesla to gain a greater market share long term.
Completely agree. Gotion are another company due to produce 500wh/kg batteries in 2024 and supply a majority of them to VW. Battery tech is rapidly evolving and it seems that the 4860 will be obsolete before it really got started.
Rivian and Ford Lithning has a independent rear suspention
hope it lives up to the promise!
YES!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It won’t 🤷
I recently did a solar project and surprisingly ended up going with Generac for the battery storage component. Better specs (17KWH vs 13KWH), less expensive and they would actually commit to a deliver and install date. Also, Generac actually has a customer service number that answers the phone reliably. Thus far, very happy with it.
Its always nice when business and government engage in private negotation.
9:15 it's CHAMPING at the bit! God damnit CHAMPING with an A. Horses CHAMP at the bit, not chomp.
I have never heard anyone say it that way.
@@bryanstrom812 He's right though. Source: my English professor Dad every time someone says 'chomping at the bit'
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Good content!
Well done video.
Of all the doom and gloom? Happy Tesla and Elon are still making electric cars not only fun? But they seem to be well ahead of the game as far as what the average consumer wants. Easy no frills charging that ACTUALLY WORKS! And I'm glad they take their time to get it right instead of rushing it out to make investors happy.
They started the construction of the lithium refinery this week!
mean while CATL announces condense matter battery that is even higher density. Good to see Tesla improve 4680, but it's not as huge as Elon hyped when it was first announced.
YES!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
hi
Insights!
😢 I want my 2 gen 4680 battery beer!
I was just wondering, do you ever show your face in the videos? I like your videos very much
11:50 countries are in dire need of support for their electrical grids precisely because of their insistence upon abandoning reliable power generation for unreliable wind and solar. It's not sustainable.
Koch Brothers spotted.
Tesla mega packs are absurdly expensive. For a 150kwh system the cost is $1M+
But does it vibrate😂
😃⛳️🤘
12:00 This was posted 16hrs ago when I read this & they no longer r available in 2024....
It's already on my end showing 2025!
Why doesnt tesla have 2 battery banks one discharging while the other charges? that can be switched back and forth i bet they'd go for a couple thousand km before needing to be plugged in to charge
It would be too complicated and impractical, if you google the total weight of a model 3, it is half a ton.
I don’t think anyone will be swapping 250kgs of battery whenever they reach the station. There are also multiple EV brands too so how are going to cater for that?
Also, I believe the battery pack is part of the structure of the car to minimise manufacturing costs and to increase cell count. Having it removable would remove those benefits.
@@jesselam5867 fuk you on about? Who said switching? a simple SWITCH would do just incase you're confused a switch is like a BUTTON, and who said anything about have 2x as many batteries? There could be just half as many batteries, you have a warped view of things, how did that happen?
You'd lose your bet.
@@vidznstuff1 you obviously dont know much about electromagnetic theory.
Whats the average wage for workers in the giga factory in Texas? I’m curious because the sheer number of workers must be insane and keeping Americans happy in that factory cant be cheap.
Redundant rehash. Great New 4680 Battery NOT HERE
It's great to see them moving away from lithium
I wouldn't be too sure that they will be moving away from lithium anytime soon. LFP stands for Lithium Iron Phosphate. So basically they are moving away from nickel and cobalt. There is nothing wrong with lithium and we have a very massive amount of lithium in the U.S.
dislike he didnt show the truck crashing after showing it almost hit wall from multiple angles. anger
so.... basically a D cell?
Title: "Is here" -> Actual Content: "Potential new version" ... It's really sad if even a fast moving company like Tesla can't get in front of clickbaiting youtubers.
Fisting
Oh really?
Saying "fisting at the bit" is less grating than saying "chomping at the bit".
@@dizzious I think he means he likes getting fisted in the butt.
Meow
Bark!
You should be ashamed of all your ads
Been hearing that for the last 3 years. Boring.
I volunteer to have someone in a Cybertruck pull my travel trailer from Michigan to Florida for my winter stay. It is bumper pull so it should be very easy for any truck. It only weighs 15000 pounds, and is 8 1/2 feet wide with a height of 12' 10". It was built to minimize aero drag so another easy thing for the Cybertruck. My Dodge ram has pulled that trailer North to south round trip 13 times and east to west round trip three times, with lots of travel as well. Just 74,000 miles towing. I won't even put all the things I carry in the truck in the Cybertruck. Just 96 cubic feet of fairly heavy stuff, about 2500 pounds more or less. That we can do in the late fall of 2024 with a true production vehicle. Should be a piece of cake. I am only running about 450 to 500 hp and 1200 pound feet of torque. Fall of 2025 we will add the fishing equipment box and the cartop boat to the mix. Trip will be a bit longer as I need to go to South Dakota first then on to Florida.
I've read in other places, that energy density in the 4680 Gen 1 is actually not any better than the old battery although they hope to improve it's performance as time goes by. This suggests that AT BEST cybertruck will only meet it's original range specs, which for myself, puts a shadow over a CT purchase. I'm far enough down the wait list that I will have time to decide when the actual specs get released. Today 3 years after the CT announcement, 600 mile range is my minimum. 500 miles will just not do it for me. I don't want a toy, I want a genuine , all purpose transport and utility vehicle - all weather, all conditions.
The Cybertruck is ugly. Who would buy it?!
I appreciate the update but the promo /commercial at 3:50ish makes it clear that y'all are compromised so much that I'm going to take anything you "report" with a huge grain of salt. you've identified a market, which is to say people who are/maybe interested in your take on what is happening with Tesla. but your undisguised craven adherence to those that are paying you ... well, not that different from Tesla, which is to say Elon
I want a future with EVs and our power coming from renewable sources. but I am not seeing any commitment to that from you, just figuring that you can ride that slipstream.
of you want to say that you're "reporting" that's a thing and you need to be clear about ...
or is this just about mining an audience with time and money for clicks for you
you can do better and I hope that you do
you are a little too subservient and very much shying away from taking an editorial stance even though you imply one, tell us your own perspective, or at least say why you leave it ambiguous