Could Batman Be Batman Without Money?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Bruce Wayne has funded his crime fighting crusade with millions, probably billions of dollars. So could he be an effective vigilante without his money? Lets discuss!
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At the most basic level, Rorschach has proven it's entirely possible and he literally IS homeless.
In keeping with the themes of Watchmen, he is a very ineffective "Batman" and typically does more harm than good. In his retelling of his first execution, he admits without concern that he injured and tortured multiple innocent in trying to find the kidnapper.
Rorschach kills his enemies with basic weapons as they don't stop to more crime, Rorschach works in a garment factory, from where he gets his mask but he lives in slums 😂
@@patrickmoler8025Sounds like a good man to me.
In addition to equipment, the great advantage of his wealth is that Batman doesn't need to worry about money, he doesn't need to dedicate his time and effort to making money. This frees up all his potential and resources to dedicate himself to your true mission.
In today's times, this alone is practically a superpower.
this, this is honestly the only answer that is needed. if batman had to work like a normal person, he would not have the time to rest and heal, to train... so his "no kill" rule would have to be questioned then as he would not have the martial arts capability.
also, as we all know bruce wayne is saucing some kind of ped so he can physically recover.. that stuff is not cheap
The Batman who's broke
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Broke Man
I can think of one Batman who wasn't rich at any point, who got by with makeshift explosives and an abandoned subway station as his batcave, which is The Batman from Superman: Red Son. That Batman was from the USSR, had no money, and still was able to be Batman.
I think the greatest advantage Bruce would have from his wealth is time. The freedom from a traditional 9-5 enables him to allocate his time and energy to being batman. Working out, research, eating, sleeping.
Ofcourse his money enables him to buy vehicles and tech but without being able to dedicate time to his goals it would be extremely difficult.
implying batman sleeps.
The equipment a budget Batman probably would have are a few shuriken, a rope and grappling hook, a lockpick set, some forensic equipment, some handcuffs, and a police radio scanner.
As a financially free (but not rich) real life superhero I agree with your Batman assessment. The key factors are time and ingenuity. Primitive versions of Batman’s vehicles and gadgets can be constructed on a budget easily with some creativity and ingenuity. Time is the most important superpower. He could embrace a minimalist lifestyle and live in a bat RV to maintain mobility, or use a cheap storage unit as his base. A few good investments can easily fund a real life superhero who embraces minimalism.
The first problem Bruce would run into without money is training. He traveled around the world for years, which takes money, getting training from the best of the best, which takes money, and spent countless hours training, which takes time not earning money, to even get to his beginning point of becoming Batman.
Maintaining his training and physique take yet more money. Even if he uses budget equipment to train, every hour he spends working out is an hour he isn't making a living. The healthy and protein rich diet he requires to maintain his sheer muscle mass is expensive and requires time to prepare.
Time spent maintaining equipment, armor, a vehicle, weaponry, etc. is taken out of time for making money. Every snapped rope, mangled handcuff, lost batarang, and damaged piece of armor requires money to replace. Without an inherited house that requires no rent or mortgage, he has to worry about prompt payment, nosy neighbors and landlords, or even eviction for property damage (bloodstains) and suspicious behavior (also bloodstains). An "average Joe" Batman would have to spend time cleaning and maintaining his house as well as shopping for essentials and doing laundry.
Even keeping the level of medical supplies a vigilante finds necessary well stocked is expensive. Bruce also often requires medical care he can't take care of on his own. He isn't a surgeon, and even stitches on his back could require another person to properly clean and suture. All this medical care requires money: enough money to hire someone who both does an excellent job to keep him in fighting form and won't investigate the shady injuries he turns up with.
Bruce can't hold down a normal job. He is busy all night and needs to sleep during the day to remain functional. He must be available constantly for emergencies and be able to take time off as needed to recover from debilitating injuries. Perhaps he could be a writer or CZcamsr or other artist to pay bills, but between everything else when will he find the time?
Perhaps someone with superpowers could overcome enough of these obstacles to become a vigilante, but not a baseline human.
Batman after the joker war shows this. Especially Ghost stories and after. It's a really good series. Shows money just helped him speed up crime fighting but even being broke batman can do his job easily.
Flashpoint batman kinda went in that direction. He wasnt pore, but he relied on gamblers to fund his mission.
I think another huge difference would be in his skill set. If he were just living on an average salary, he wouldn’t have had the time and money to travel around the world for over 10 years learning all of his tremendous skills from world-class experts.
Exactly. He would still be as good a fighter but in raw gritty street fighting skills, and little bits of martial arts the only got from free, beginners classes, that only show you the basics and that's it.
A raw brawler, neck strikes and all, who will randomly do a perfect executed spinning back kick, but only because he's done it a thousand times in real combat, after seeing it on UFC LOL. He can make the basic karate upper block work, but only because he's had to do so against actual knives and ECT
As a lifelong Batman and martial arts fan I've thought about this a lot LOL
Without money, Batman become a character named The Question.
Is a brilliant detective just like Batman, but with a pint of paranoia and almost completely flat broke-bankrupt.
But alternatively, he can be just rich, not billionaire, and so we have Nite Owl, from Watchmen.
But... Another way to get enough resources to fight crime is sadly illegal: do like Marvel's Punisher and take directly from the bad guys you face. Crime leave behind a lot of unclaimed money and equipment, so you can accumulate a lot of nice stuff across some years. And so we have the old Green Beetle...
A fact not considered: in real world training and tuition costs money. You can't become a martial arts master, or a skilled detective watching CZcams.
Most non rich characters were trained by someone or some organization with resources, like Nightwing (Bruce), Black Canary (Oliver and Assassin's League). So isn't that easy.
If Batman was just a Man, a Bloke, His mind would still be the same terrible place, rage against those who take, victimize the innocent, even without the money, his parents murdered for nothing...
His Vengeance was born without a single Dollar...
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In an elseworld where Bruce Wayne bypassed the idea of millionaire playboy/capped vigilante shtick to make his way as undercover cop while retaining that grim crimefighting tenacity, very likely he'd be like Rust Cohle.
Daredevil is a good example in the comics of a peak human operating without millions of dollars. That being said, it will depend on how realistic you prefer it. Realistically speaking, even someone with millions would fail to be batman. In comic books, you can do pretty much whatever you want.
He’d be closer to punisher without money in terms of arsenal
The Punisher would take the blood money from the criminals and take their weapons and such (cannibalizing your equipment from your dead enemies is what you do if you do not have the funds to acquire them), this is basic guerrilla warfare, you almost never see in the movies, but it's what others in real life would do if you do not have the weapons and equipment already.
@@kotaroatani9800 I’ll admit I don’t know too much about punisher other than marvel is trying to destroy everything about the original character
Commenting as a former military survival instructor i can quote what ive said to SOF guys, pilots and even civilians I've trained:your mind is the weapon. Everything else is a tool, a means to the end. Some are more efficient means than others. No one can ever take away what's between your ears.
So, yeah, I'd say Batman would still be Batman but by other means.
I never heard of a "military survival instructor" when I was in the military. Was it called something else? A more official term?
@@DefinitelyNotBender SERE Specialist
He would be just like Daredevil, earning his money from his day to day job. The suit and the gadgets have to be a lot more economical.
Hell no he couldn’t. Batman is my fav hero but his money is a huge crutch
Have you read a recent Batman comic lately? Bruce Wayne lost his trust fund. He is forced to move out of Wayne manor and into a brownstone house. Then Batman has limited resources that he could use to fight crime. On top of that, Vandal Savage buys up Wayne Manor just to keep Batman out of the Batcave
In the comics it's stated that Batman knows how to take money from the organized crime groups to covertly fund his crime fighting, he just doesn't need to.
Yes, it's because of his legendary scientific, inventive, deductive, tactical, and combative prowess that makes Batman. With that being said it would be harder but much more interesting. With Batman, less is more when it comes to allies, money, and tech. It allows him. To showcase all his skills and knowledge.
How to be a Broke Batman 101
He would be like Daredevil.
A cheap suit.
Not technology except the things he commandeers from criminals.
Juggling work and vigilante activities.
Also way less training and resources.
And constantly having to worry his neighbors will not catch him doing stuff.
He probably would go out in regular clothes. Than put on a mask or some kind of change of appearance, do his stuff, then change back and go home.
I agree with you that Bruce wane could be batman if he was a blue collar worker that would be an awesome store
Batman wouldn’t need to keep up his appearances as Bruce Wayne if he wasn’t rich but he wouldn’t be able to be as near of an effective hero.
Money isn’t Batman’s power but it’s an integral part of his character like Superman with flight or strength.
He would be punisher who does not kill😮
Well, to fight anything or to stand up against any horror requires just so much more than money to it, so he could be broke, and still be a hero and character majority loves, but technically, he isn't.
But, the subject should be changed, and let's say it is changed already, for the sake of pure fun and joy
I would say no simply because Bruce would not be able to do the training he did to become Batman since he spent a decade training to become Batman and he couldn’t do all that traveling without having money.
Bruce is so smart, won’t he find a way to make considerable wealth fairly quickly?
Short answer : no
Brokeman the Trashcan Knight
He wouldn't get the education, training nor equipment he did while rich. So no. He'd be just another homeless guy with PTSD. No way he'd be able to hold a job with all that trauma. He would have ended up in an orphanage. Probably end up in and out of jail and mental hospitals. "He'd just be a ninja"... No. How did he end up getting trained? Because he had the money. He was boy billionaire Bruce Wayne and gained the attention of all the people that trained him. "He had detective skills"... No. He only got training with detective work through Henri Ducard and studying detective files he was able to acquire due to his wealth and status. His privilege granted him access to all the things you said would still make him capable of being Batman.
Read Batman: Year 100
in this storyline...he obviously isn't a Millionaire
He still be the Batman regardless
I thought u was making a power rangers film
I always go back to that moment on Iron Man three where Tony had said “that you can take away all his toys. you can take away his house. But the one thing you can’t take from him is that he is iron man.”
In the same thing could be said about Batman that in spite of him not having all of his resources at his disposal as long as he has his mind and his well he will always be Batman.
if bruce wayne didn't have money he probably wouldn't even be around. he relied too much on alfed
Batman is a ninja plus he knows different style of martial arts that would take years of hard work and experience
I hate to say it but i don't think he could cause without his wealth he would not been able to travel around the world and get the best education in schools like Harvard and martial arts training from the best etc to become batman
Wasn't there going to be a movie where Batman didn't have his wealth?
In Czdarsky's run, he became the new Bat-Man of Gotham with little to no resources other than what he found lying around Gotham and used his own knowledge of how to make a Batsuit and gadgets. It's very doable for someone like Bruce Wayne. But any other old joe.. not really.
The answer is No
Bruce could not and can not be Batman without the money
“If you take away all the money, he’s basically just a ninja”
How did he get the skills? How did he get the knowledge and training?
It’s almost like he had access to millions of dollars that allowed him to travel across the world and learn from the best teachers in the world… 🙄
Exactly you get it
Daredevil
Batman without money ... he just man
In short, yes he could.
Hell yeah
Batman in middle earth would be a fun. No money would mean no Alfred as well
Honestly, Batman without the Billions, would still be batman, but with less toys. The billions just enable batman to beat superman. But batman could still work it out. A Batman here would likely debut slightly later in his life, since he might not be able to effort the university tuition and travel fees to get around the world as quickly for his training montage, but honestly, after the first two connections he might have other means of getting around the world rather than just Trust Fund money.
The simple answer is yes. As compared to in the video Nightwing himself has been able to do it and this is essentially a situation that Batman is in currently in the comics where he doesn't have the vast wealth but he is still able to fight crime via the fact that he already invents the majority of his gadgets himself regardless
You dont think Nightwing has money? Or had access to add the benefits from Bruce being a billionaire?
@@ThatDudeCurtis6 I never said that at all. I just said that Nightwing has essentially operated under these circumstances before and Batman is doing so in the current day
@@jlpgamin But you're missing the key point that Nightwing out the gate starts with all the benefits of Bruce's millions of dollars.
He was trained and got all his tech from Bruce or having the money to travel the world and learn.
The idea of broke Batman doesn't work. It's not possible to get or have everything necessary to be Batman or a reasonable facsimile without CASH.
It's not recommended fir the average to do it look at pheonix jones
Buttman
He would be brokeman
Haven't watched yet but I'd say not the same way. He could still be Batman but there would be a lot less gadgets and a lot less ground he can cover. Plus he'd need a standard day job so he'd realistically need at least some more sleep
Also worth noting, how easy would it have been for him to travel all over the world and train under the greatest masters in every field for almost a decade if he wasn't rich.
Bruce wayne is a ninja trained by Ra's al Ghul in Shinobi
Daredevil