Agree with the general consensus here, that you really showcased the alternate full potential of this machine that I've not seen anyone else do. I have owned a Digitakt and just used it in a very linear way as thats what I was trying to do at the time, knowing I had barely scratched the surface. Actually want one of these because of the so called limitation and immediacy ( not having to choose what to sample, pitch issues with sampling etc), and this video really made apparent what can be done with a little thought and creativity. Loving the last demo immensely- a new instrument that has expression and tactility . You really took this machine to new places whilst keeping it musical. Thank you
You're welcome! Thanks very much for the feedback🙏🏼 I've really enjoyed the Cycles - you are right about the limitations making it very interesting to explore. ps the video I just recently uploaded has a clip of the M:C paired with the 0Coast - straightforward but I felt like it turned out nice. Thanks again for checking out the channel👍🏻!
Hallo again Dr Nim. Wondering if you would be up for some online discussion re development of an acoustic / electronic / sequencing hybrid concept idea I have floating around in my head? Thank you
There is so much information contained in these Model:Cycles videos that I have to watch in small chunks and then move to the Cycles to try to emulate. Thanks for this detailed look. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge in this manner.
Hey, I really appreciate hearing this. I want to. Pre-pandemic I was trying to get from an average of about 1 video every 10 days down to 1 per week. I know that I can get back to that soon, possibly even more frequent uploads. As I mentioned in a community post last week, I think I'm going to just sort of open up the channel content, not necessarily do lengthy tutorials all the time, branch out into new topics, and use the channel as a way to learn more about some of my own gear that is underutilized. So, shorter videos (but I'm still thinking over 10 minutes) and diverse topics - I think that will be the right direction. Thanks for watching!
Once again another great video from yourself , I will be getting a model cycles to add to my volca setup can't wait especially with my volca drum .Just hoping I can sync it with the volcas.Keep up the good work cheers mate 👍
MAN! You are like a world record setting free-diver, except with synthesis and grooveboxes. Thank you once again for sharing your amazing discoveries 🤯
You're welcome! I really appreciate the kind feedback (and the analogy - I don't free dive but really admire it, have read some about it). Thanks a lot for watching🙏🏼!
Thanks again for these fantastic in depth 'Model' videos. I have the Samples and had started thinking that I had exhausted its sound design capabilities but now you have given it a whole new life. I would like to have gone into a bit more in depth with the Velocity Modulation, especially in regards to the LFO destinations but I will play with that myself, in a way Velocity Mod is really another LFO in itself which is fantastic. Also thanks for introducing me to the Retrig mode which I never used before. Look forward to more of these 'Model' videos.
Richard Grant Thanks for the feedback! I agree that there is a lot more to velocity modulation - and I certainly want to try some of these things out on the Samples, too . Velocity -> length on a short, looped sample could give some nice granular effects🤔. Thanks for watching!
@@undulations I am using it for Sample Start and getting some great sounds. Really interested in trying out the MODE to control the LFO tigger modes. Karl Odlum on the Facebook EMS user ground posted these settings: "- Set Vdep to 0 - Set DST to MODE (Second last destination) - Set Ddep to 2.0 With these settings: - Trigger velocity of 0-31 will activate free run mode. (LFO always runs regardless of trigger) - Trigger velocity of 32-63 will activate reset mode. (LFO Restarts when a note is triggered.) - Trigger velocity of 64-95 will activate LFO hold. (The instantaneous value of the LFO is held until the next trigger. Basically a sample and hold) - Trigger velocity of 96-128 will run the LFO for a half cycle and then stop. (Kind of like the ENV mode but using any of the LFO Waveforms.) - Trigger velocity of 127 will run the LFO for a full cycle and then stop. (Same as above but using a full cycle)" I assume it uses the same Trig Velocities for the WAVE setting as well, although I haven't been able to work that one out.
Fantastic! Really glad to hear that! I haven't really done anything else with that method, but I remember thinking that it could do things that seemed sort of impossible without it. Let me know how it goes. Thanks a lot for checking out the video🙏!
Thanks, very interesting ) I thought that when the pressure on the pad changes, the influence on the depth of the assigned parameter changes (as it works with volume), but the depth of the LFO speed is set on the first hit and does not change when the pressure changes further. this upset me. But you have great pervomances) Note to all: holding FUNC + "PAD MENU" -> Fixed velocity: ON / OFF =)
wow this one was such much difficult to me but amazing to me..... think i will have to coming back more then twice lolol ^^ thks a lot really interesting thks again :-)))
Thanks! We are _still_ playing ACNH here - that game has had some real staying power (getting ready to play rn)! Anyway, glad to hear that the video was helpful. I really appreciate the feedback🙏🏼!
@@undulations I have to revisit ACNH here as well once I get a grip on some of these extra sequencers laying around (& Links Awakening, lol). Thanks again for the whole Cycles series. These are the only deep sonic dives I've found on YT featuring this surprisingly deep but contained hardware.
Those are some very krell-like sounds you are making using the LFOs! Elektron should be highlighting such good work in showing the potential of this machine.
domdib Thank you very much🙏🏼! I want to go back and approach the Krells with some of the conditional trig features that I learned making video 5 in this series. (ps I appreciate what you’re saying about Elektron - they actually did repost a Model:Samples clip of mine on Instagram about a year ago, so maybe that will happen again at some point).
Hahaha, for some reason I started laughing at the crazy sounds you are able to make with this machine! Nice to see a person with deeper knowledge handle the machine, thank you sir! 🙂👍🏻
Man, Undulations, you’re a true sound designer, love your series on Model Cycles (Model Samples, too) your approach is so different, minimalist, etc. different than the typical “commercial” reviews of the Elektron products, very creative, thanks. Do you think the Cycles would be a good pairing w/Digitakt or overkill? I guess Digitakt has no FM, just samples, etc. One is only limited by one’s imagination,
JOE BJORNSON I really appreciate the kind words🙏🏼 As for adding the Cycles to your gear and pairing it with the Digitakt? I feel like it's not outlandish because they are so different. You can certainly get into some "synth" terrain with the Digitakt (oscillator samples, turning LFO's way up to target pitch for some FM sounds, resampling to bitcrush, granular, etc.) - BUT, it's just a lot more accessible on the Cycles. I know the Cycles has been kind of reconfigured as a groovebox, but it still seems like a synth at heart. Another thing about this combo is how you can sample things from the Cycles (sounds, entire patterns) and then work with that in the Digitakt. A lot of possibilities. Thanks again for watching!
It does pair well with the Digitakt! I think that it would even pair well with the Digitone. I agree with @undulations that it does feel like a synth at heart but it sounds different enough and does excel at percussion. So you could mix and match having 10 different potential sources of tone or percussion. Very powerful! It sounds different enough from other drum machines that I’d say it would pair well with just about anything 👌
Thanks for this. So fart it's one of the only deeper dives in step by step sound design for the Cycles. I just got it a few days ago and it's my first foray into FM synthesis. Really loving it so far and trying to stay patient learning it. I'd love a video on a pad with a slow attack. Decay and sustain are pretty clear, but I can't find a way to slowly bring in a sound. Any tips? Would love a Krell step by step video too!
Hey, I really appreciate this comment🙏🏼 I tried out a couple of different ways to give a sound "attack" (or something close to that). The cleanest method, as far as I know right now, is to use the LFO. So, pick a Track (I used the Chord 'machine') and set the Volume/Distortion (i.e. not the Level) to 0 (or very low). Then set the track LFO to have a destination of DIST (i.e. the volume) and a max depth of +63. Use the _/|_ ramp shape (others may work as well) and set the LFO multiplier to 1 (or maybe 1x if you want the attack to change with the tempo). Then, it the LFO Menu you need to turn on the Reset. So, every time you play a note (by pad or trig key) it will ramp up the volume. Use the LFO Speed knob to control the attack rate. There can be a clicking sound - some practice and changing the decay value can smooth things out (note: the ramp LFO is periodic, so if you hold the key too long it will cut off and ramp again and again). So, I wanted to try this method out in a small tune. I put the result over on Instagram (dr_nim2014). Take a look, if possible. Thanks again for this comment. I think Elektron sees the M:C as more of a groovebox, but it can do some nice ambient sounds. I think they stuck with the overall form of the Model:Samples, i.e. no Attack, but in that case the issue is more easily overcome because your sample, in itself, can have an onset.
@@undulations Thanks so much! I had the same thought about using the LFO but I couldn't get it quite failed in. Going to try your approach, the IG video sounds good and close enough. I've been making mostly ambient kind of grooves before I got the Cycles so I'm interested in pushing it in that direction if I can. Thanks again, huge help!
You bet! Thanks a lot for bringing it up - I wish I had put it in the video series at some point. I'll probably do a recap video where I talk about 5-10 IG Jamuary clips (like I did last year) - so that will be a good point to bring it up.
Not 100% certain you can do this on this machine but on the Digitakt you could "overdub" or "imprint" parameter changes using the live record mode once you have some steps down. You could try with the volume once a sequence is laid down.
time for more M:C videos, methinks. i really liked this one-- have you looked on elektron's forum? they have a "tips and tricks" thread that shows just how weird and malleable the M:C is.
Thank you very much🙏🏼! I'll have to check out the Elektron forum at some point👍🏻. Five videos is sort of my limit, just for the sake of variety, but the video I'm working on rn (Bastl MicroGranny) does include some Model:Samples stuff - and I'm planning on doing short "data management" video in the next few weeks that will apply to both Model devices. Thanks a lot for watching!
@@undulations no i'm serious. check out the forum tips & tricks thread. it will blow your mind. it's a quirky machine where there's all sorts of possibilites but also a ton of initially frustrating limits. you have some great ideas here that i think would be very valuable to that forum, but also i think the forum will stimulate your whimsy into possible new territories and maybe you'd rethink continuing on with videos beyond a certain arbitrary range. but like, seriously, the last part of this video is a treasure of creativity. my unsolicited suggestion to you is that you do exactly what you're doing, but use your examples to lead and *then* get into the explanations. maybe you could do that by editing, or maybe it's just something you could think about when you do your next tut. if i was editing, i'd lead with 48:48 and then say "keep watching for how i did it." anyway, thanks for the M:C and the microfreak tutorials especially i'm proud to share them with other users. you're a great resource for fun weird magic beneath but still understanding the main workflow.
Is there any way I can midi link 2 machines to synchronise the play and keep 2 different tempos? one tempo being 1/2 of the other. Maybe the only way to do this is to hit play on 2 machines at same time and abandon linking midi clock altogether. cool vid!
I do! Some things to think about in such a setup: midi should allow you to sync up sequences on the Samples and Cycles, but then you could send midi out of whichever Model: you put second in the chain and send it _into_ the NTS-1, basically use one Model: track to control the Korg (not sure offhand that the Elektron and Korg 3.5mm midi ins/outs are a "match", so a 5-pin midi cable might end up being required). And then, in terms of audio - it might be cool to mix the Samples and Cycles and then send _that_ into the NTS-1 audio in. This would allow new effects like Bitcrush, Ping Pong delay, and Riser reverb to be used on the Elektrons. Also, because of the Model: architectures, their delay repeats can't have any native reverb - using the NTS-1 reverb(s) can fix this and really improve the overall sound. I think it would be a really powerful trio👍🏻!
Undulations the thing I’m just yet deciding whether to buy all three and a mixer or just start with model samples only, that’s why I asked if that could be a good combo. Btw, any cheap decent quality mixer you could recommend to commutate these please? Thanks again for your answers and your calm, hypnotic videos. What do you think of the above mentioned combo vs MC707 or Deluge( only one of them, trying to cap myself at $1000:))
Well, from what I've seen on CZcams and Instagram the 707 and Deluge both look very powerful. I guess it comes down to preferences: one nice thing about a multi-part setup is how it can be broken up and used. NTS-1, usb battery, and phones lets you go pretty much anywhere. I've been wanting to get a 101 but I have read that it lacks chaining or a song mode (I assume the 707 has all of that). I need to focus on learning the 404sx I already have, tbh. Anyway, as for a mixer - I have been pleasantly surprised with a NADY MM-242. Really inexpensive but nice features. It would let you use 1/4" cables to hook up the Elektrons. Then with a 3.5mm stereo to dual mono 1/4" Y- cable (really like the U-Green brand of these) you could either send the NTS-1 into the mixer OR get stereo out of the mixer and send it through the NTS-1. Best of luck on all of this, and thanks for watching👍🏻
Hey, well if you are _wanting_ to make "noise" i.e. for noise music, it can do that in several ways. If you are worried about any unwanted noise - I have not noticed any. It seems to have a nice, clean signal. I hope this answers your question.
Well, I feel like one of the main things to consider is keeping the stereo/panning capability of your Cycles intact. There are so many mono reverb and delay pedals out there, but far fewer stereo options. I have an Atlantic reverb+delay pedal from Nux Pedals that I like, but I think one of the Zoom MultiStomp pedals (I have MS-70CDR model) is probably the best value: stereo, battery, so many fx that can be chained. Another thing that I would consider is a Korg NTS-1 synth. It comes as a simple kit (video about it on this channel), has stereo reverb, delay, and more, is open (fx can be added), can process external audio (Cycles would need 1/4" to 1/8" stereo cable), can add drone note or arpeggios, and is quite cheap (but I'm not sure if there is an availability issue). Hope this helps! Thanks for watching👍🏻!
@@undulations I had Model Samples which later I replaced it with Octa due MS limitations. I always thought these pads are pretty shitty and useless. Now I see they could be pretty awesome instrument.
Very very interesting thanks a lot. It needs practice of course, but opens new horizon. :)
Thanks a lot for checking it out🙏🏼!
Agree with the general consensus here, that you really showcased the alternate full potential of this machine that I've not seen anyone else do. I have owned a Digitakt and just used it in a very linear way as thats what I was trying to do at the time, knowing I had barely scratched the surface. Actually want one of these because of the so called limitation and immediacy ( not having to choose what to sample, pitch issues with sampling etc), and this video really made apparent what can be done with a little thought and creativity. Loving the last demo immensely- a new instrument that has expression and tactility . You really took this machine to new places whilst keeping it musical. Thank you
You're welcome! Thanks very much for the feedback🙏🏼 I've really enjoyed the Cycles - you are right about the limitations making it very interesting to explore. ps the video I just recently uploaded has a clip of the M:C paired with the 0Coast - straightforward but I felt like it turned out nice. Thanks again for checking out the channel👍🏻!
Hallo again Dr Nim. Wondering if you would be up for some online discussion re development of an acoustic / electronic / sequencing hybrid concept idea I have floating around in my head? Thank you
I really appreciate your direct, in depth and no-bullshit style of presenting the devices!
Glad to do it, thanks for checking it out🙏🏼!
There is so much information contained in these Model:Cycles videos that I have to watch in small chunks and then move to the Cycles to try to emulate. Thanks for this detailed look. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge in this manner.
Absolutely! Thanks a lot for checking out the series👍🏻!
I sure wish you did more videos
Hey, I really appreciate hearing this. I want to. Pre-pandemic I was trying to get from an average of about 1 video every 10 days down to 1 per week. I know that I can get back to that soon, possibly even more frequent uploads. As I mentioned in a community post last week, I think I'm going to just sort of open up the channel content, not necessarily do lengthy tutorials all the time, branch out into new topics, and use the channel as a way to learn more about some of my own gear that is underutilized. So, shorter videos (but I'm still thinking over 10 minutes) and diverse topics - I think that will be the right direction. Thanks for watching!
Once again another great video from yourself , I will be getting a model cycles to add to my volca setup can't wait especially with my volca drum .Just hoping I can sync it with the volcas.Keep up the good work cheers mate 👍
Very interesting. Thank you for posting
You're welcome!
MAN! You are like a world record setting free-diver, except with synthesis and grooveboxes. Thank you once again for sharing your amazing discoveries 🤯
You're welcome! I really appreciate the kind feedback (and the analogy - I don't free dive but really admire it, have read some about it). Thanks a lot for watching🙏🏼!
Thanks again for these fantastic in depth 'Model' videos. I have the Samples and had started thinking that I had exhausted its sound design capabilities but now you have given it a whole new life. I would like to have gone into a bit more in depth with the Velocity Modulation, especially in regards to the LFO destinations but I will play with that myself, in a way Velocity Mod is really another LFO in itself which is fantastic. Also thanks for introducing me to the Retrig mode which I never used before. Look forward to more of these 'Model' videos.
Richard Grant Thanks for the feedback! I agree that there is a lot more to velocity modulation - and I certainly want to try some of these things out on the Samples, too . Velocity -> length on a short, looped sample could give some nice granular effects🤔. Thanks for watching!
@@undulations I am using it for Sample Start and getting some great sounds. Really interested in trying out the MODE to control the LFO tigger modes. Karl Odlum on the Facebook EMS user ground posted these settings:
"- Set Vdep to 0
- Set DST to MODE (Second last destination)
- Set Ddep to 2.0
With these settings:
- Trigger velocity of 0-31 will activate free run mode. (LFO always runs regardless of trigger)
- Trigger velocity of 32-63 will activate reset mode. (LFO Restarts when a note is triggered.)
- Trigger velocity of 64-95 will activate LFO hold. (The instantaneous value of the LFO is held until the next trigger. Basically a sample and hold)
- Trigger velocity of 96-128 will run the LFO for a half cycle and then stop. (Kind of like the ENV mode but using any of the LFO Waveforms.)
- Trigger velocity of 127 will run the LFO for a full cycle and then stop. (Same as above but using a full cycle)"
I assume it uses the same Trig Velocities for the WAVE setting as well, although I haven't been able to work that one out.
Nice early Autechre vibes at 34:54. Thanks for your tutorials, they are easy to follow, and include some very original ideas.
Thanks very much!
I appreciate the feedback🙏🏼!
Absolutely love the deep dive into this synth.
Thank you🙏🏼!
This has given me a lot to work with. Love the velocity modulation idea, I hadn’t thought of using it in that way.
Fantastic! Really glad to hear that! I haven't really done anything else with that method, but I remember thinking that it could do things that seemed sort of impossible without it. Let me know how it goes. Thanks a lot for checking out the video🙏!
Thanks, very interesting )
I thought that when the pressure on the pad changes, the influence on the depth of the assigned parameter changes (as it works with volume), but the depth of the LFO speed is set on the first hit and does not change when the pressure changes further.
this upset me.
But you have great pervomances)
Note to all: holding FUNC + "PAD MENU" -> Fixed velocity: ON / OFF =)
wow this one was such much difficult to me but amazing to me..... think i will have to coming back more then twice lolol ^^ thks a lot really interesting thks again :-)))
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Sincerely love these videos. Super clear, easy to navigate, and always gets me eager to try on my own rig. Thanks!
Really glad to hear that! I appreciate the feedback!
very helpful, thank you....and ANIMAL CROSSING in the bg is a nice touch.
Thanks! We are _still_ playing ACNH here - that game has had some real staying power (getting ready to play rn)! Anyway, glad to hear that the video was helpful. I really appreciate the feedback🙏🏼!
@@undulations I have to revisit ACNH here as well once I get a grip on some of these extra sequencers laying around (& Links Awakening, lol). Thanks again for the whole Cycles series. These are the only deep sonic dives I've found on YT featuring this surprisingly deep but contained hardware.
Those are some very krell-like sounds you are making using the LFOs! Elektron should be highlighting such good work in showing the potential of this machine.
domdib Thank you very much🙏🏼!
I want to go back and approach the Krells with some of the conditional trig features that I learned making video 5 in this series. (ps I appreciate what you’re saying about Elektron - they actually did repost a Model:Samples clip of mine on Instagram about a year ago, so maybe that will happen again at some point).
@@undulations I look forward to your future explorations!
Hahaha, for some reason I started laughing at the crazy sounds you are able to make with this machine! Nice to see a person with deeper knowledge handle the machine, thank you sir! 🙂👍🏻
Petri That’s a great thing to hear😀! Thanks for watching!
@@undulations Pleasure is all mine, thanks for the great video and the knowledge! 🙂
Really finds your tutorials interesting and inspiring! Keep up the good work!
Niklas Mellgren Thank you🙏🏼 Very glad to hear that!
Interesting sound design ideas brings me some new ideas :)
Cool! Glad to hear it and best of luck! Thanks for checking it out🙏🏼!
Thank you for all your top tier content!
Always great to hear something like this🙏🏼! Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I bought one. You're voice, by the way, is perfect for this type of review.
Most kind! Thank you very much! - and thanks for watching!
Another excellent tutorial. Thank you
richard irons Thanks for checking it out👍🏻!
Yes! I've been looking super forward to this!
Awesome info! Loved demo 4 a lot!
Thank you for the feedback!
You are master!
Thank you for checking out the video🙏🏼!
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, Undulations, you’re a true sound designer, love your series on Model Cycles (Model Samples, too) your approach is so different, minimalist, etc. different than the typical “commercial” reviews of the Elektron products, very creative, thanks. Do you think the Cycles would be a good pairing w/Digitakt or overkill? I guess Digitakt has no FM, just samples, etc. One is only limited by one’s imagination,
JOE BJORNSON I really appreciate the kind words🙏🏼 As for adding the Cycles to your gear and pairing it with the Digitakt? I feel like it's not outlandish because they are so different. You can certainly get into some "synth" terrain with the Digitakt (oscillator samples, turning LFO's way up to target pitch for some FM sounds, resampling to bitcrush, granular, etc.) - BUT, it's just a lot more accessible on the Cycles. I know the Cycles has been kind of reconfigured as a groovebox, but it still seems like a synth at heart. Another thing about this combo is how you can sample things from the Cycles (sounds, entire patterns) and then work with that in the Digitakt. A lot of possibilities. Thanks again for watching!
It does pair well with the Digitakt! I think that it would even pair well with the Digitone. I agree with @undulations that it does feel like a synth at heart but it sounds different enough and does excel at percussion. So you could mix and match having 10 different potential sources of tone or percussion. Very powerful! It sounds different enough from other drum machines that I’d say it would pair well with just about anything 👌
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Great Tutorial👌🏼
Thanks much🙏🏼!
Thank you so much !
You're welcome! Thanks a lot for checking it out🙏🏼!
Thanks for this. So fart it's one of the only deeper dives in step by step sound design for the Cycles. I just got it a few days ago and it's my first foray into FM synthesis. Really loving it so far and trying to stay patient learning it. I'd love a video on a pad with a slow attack. Decay and sustain are pretty clear, but I can't find a way to slowly bring in a sound. Any tips? Would love a Krell step by step video too!
Hey, I really appreciate this comment🙏🏼 I tried out a couple of different ways to give a sound "attack" (or something close to that). The cleanest method, as far as I know right now, is to use the LFO. So, pick a Track (I used the Chord 'machine') and set the Volume/Distortion (i.e. not the Level) to 0 (or very low). Then set the track LFO to have a destination of DIST (i.e. the volume) and a max depth of +63. Use the _/|_ ramp shape (others may work as well) and set the LFO multiplier to 1 (or maybe 1x if you want the attack to change with the tempo). Then, it the LFO Menu you need to turn on the Reset. So, every time you play a note (by pad or trig key) it will ramp up the volume. Use the LFO Speed knob to control the attack rate. There can be a clicking sound - some practice and changing the decay value can smooth things out (note: the ramp LFO is periodic, so if you hold the key too long it will cut off and ramp again and again).
So, I wanted to try this method out in a small tune. I put the result over on Instagram (dr_nim2014). Take a look, if possible. Thanks again for this comment. I think Elektron sees the M:C as more of a groovebox, but it can do some nice ambient sounds. I think they stuck with the overall form of the Model:Samples, i.e. no Attack, but in that case the issue is more easily overcome because your sample, in itself, can have an onset.
@@undulations Thanks so much! I had the same thought about using the LFO but I couldn't get it quite failed in. Going to try your approach, the IG video sounds good and close enough. I've been making mostly ambient kind of grooves before I got the Cycles so I'm interested in pushing it in that direction if I can. Thanks again, huge help!
You bet! Thanks a lot for bringing it up - I wish I had put it in the video series at some point. I'll probably do a recap video where I talk about 5-10 IG Jamuary clips (like I did last year) - so that will be a good point to bring it up.
Not 100% certain you can do this on this machine but on the Digitakt you could "overdub" or "imprint" parameter changes using the live record mode once you have some steps down. You could try with the volume once a sequence is laid down.
@@alistairparrish1503 Hey, I think that would work👍🏻 I like it because it frees up the LFO for other uses!
time for more M:C videos, methinks. i really liked this one-- have you looked on elektron's forum? they have a "tips and tricks" thread that shows just how weird and malleable the M:C is.
Thank you very much🙏🏼! I'll have to check out the Elektron forum at some point👍🏻. Five videos is sort of my limit, just for the sake of variety, but the video I'm working on rn (Bastl MicroGranny) does include some Model:Samples stuff - and I'm planning on doing short "data management" video in the next few weeks that will apply to both Model devices. Thanks a lot for watching!
@@undulations no i'm serious. check out the forum tips & tricks thread. it will blow your mind. it's a quirky machine where there's all sorts of possibilites but also a ton of initially frustrating limits.
you have some great ideas here that i think would be very valuable to that forum, but also i think the forum will stimulate your whimsy into possible new territories and maybe you'd rethink continuing on with videos beyond a certain arbitrary range.
but like, seriously, the last part of this video is a treasure of creativity.
my unsolicited suggestion to you is that you do exactly what you're doing, but use your examples to lead and *then* get into the explanations. maybe you could do that by editing, or maybe it's just something you could think about when you do your next tut. if i was editing, i'd lead with 48:48 and then say "keep watching for how i did it."
anyway, thanks for the M:C and the microfreak tutorials especially i'm proud to share them with other users. you're a great resource for fun weird magic beneath but still understanding the main workflow.
Thanks very much for sharing channel videos with other folks🙏🏼!
Man you did well
Abel Thank you🙏🏼
Is there any way I can midi link 2 machines to synchronise the play and keep 2 different tempos? one tempo being 1/2 of the other. Maybe the only way to do this is to hit play on 2 machines at same time and abandon linking midi clock altogether. cool vid!
🖖
I was watching your video on the Model:Samples video, what tape recorder were you using on that video?
I want to get one.
Thanks,
Dyl
I am blanking here. Which M:S video, the granular one or the looping one. I am not sure which one I used a tape recorder in...
Thanks much for the review, do you think cycles+samples+NTS-1 would be a good DAWless lil combo to have?
I do! Some things to think about in such a setup: midi should allow you to sync up sequences on the Samples and Cycles, but then you could send midi out of whichever Model: you put second in the chain and send it _into_ the NTS-1, basically use one Model: track to control the Korg (not sure offhand that the Elektron and Korg 3.5mm midi ins/outs are a "match", so a 5-pin midi cable might end up being required). And then, in terms of audio - it might be cool to mix the Samples and Cycles and then send _that_ into the NTS-1 audio in. This would allow new effects like Bitcrush, Ping Pong delay, and Riser reverb to be used on the Elektrons. Also, because of the Model: architectures, their delay repeats can't have any native reverb - using the NTS-1 reverb(s) can fix this and really improve the overall sound. I think it would be a really powerful trio👍🏻!
Undulations been reading Model Samples manual yesterday, I think it says you can switch polarity of the 3.5mm midi port there
Ah, got it. That probably does the trick. Let me know if it's an issue and I can try setting it up too, will try various adaptors if needed.
Undulations the thing I’m just yet deciding whether to buy all three and a mixer or just start with model samples only, that’s why I asked if that could be a good combo. Btw, any cheap decent quality mixer you could recommend to commutate these please? Thanks again for your answers and your calm, hypnotic videos. What do you think of the above mentioned combo vs MC707 or Deluge( only one of them, trying to cap myself at $1000:))
Well, from what I've seen on CZcams and Instagram the 707 and Deluge both look very powerful. I guess it comes down to preferences: one nice thing about a multi-part setup is how it can be broken up and used. NTS-1, usb battery, and phones lets you go pretty much anywhere. I've been wanting to get a 101 but I have read that it lacks chaining or a song mode (I assume the 707 has all of that). I need to focus on learning the 404sx I already have, tbh. Anyway, as for a mixer - I have been pleasantly surprised with a NADY MM-242. Really inexpensive but nice features. It would let you use 1/4" cables to hook up the Elektrons. Then with a 3.5mm stereo to dual mono 1/4" Y- cable (really like the U-Green brand of these) you could either send the NTS-1 into the mixer OR get stereo out of the mixer and send it through the NTS-1. Best of luck on all of this, and thanks for watching👍🏻
So you can build a kind of a Lyra 8 on the cycles 😊
I guess it _is_ that sort of thing👍🏻 (I don't have a Lyra 8 but they look/sound really great).
Really nice synth. Does it make any background noise? I should use it for recording.
Hey, well if you are _wanting_ to make "noise" i.e. for noise music, it can do that in several ways. If you are worried about any unwanted noise - I have not noticed any. It seems to have a nice, clean signal. I hope this answers your question.
@@undulations Yeah! Thank you, it is what I was asking for...no unwanted noise. Congratilation for the nice review.
Hi. Could you recommend a reverb and delay pedal to improve the model cycle? Thank you.
Well, I feel like one of the main things to consider is keeping the stereo/panning capability of your Cycles intact. There are so many mono reverb and delay pedals out there, but far fewer stereo options. I have an Atlantic reverb+delay pedal from Nux Pedals that I like, but I think one of the Zoom MultiStomp pedals (I have MS-70CDR model) is probably the best value: stereo, battery, so many fx that can be chained. Another thing that I would consider is a Korg NTS-1 synth. It comes as a simple kit (video about it on this channel), has stereo reverb, delay, and more, is open (fx can be added), can process external audio (Cycles would need 1/4" to 1/8" stereo cable), can add drone note or arpeggios, and is quite cheap (but I'm not sure if there is an availability issue). Hope this helps! Thanks for watching👍🏻!
Hello, how do you think of the couple; cycle model with pioneer dj toraiz as-1? I'm seriously thinking about going for the pioneer, what do you think?
@@alfredocabello4542 I am not familiar with the Pioneer (sorry it took so long to answer). Let me know how it turns out!
@@YLBYLB Love Boss pedals, and EQD gear is amazing. I have Transmisser but have always been eyeing Afterneath🤔
It's probably very interesting but every times I've tried to listen to this guy, I fell asleep after like 5 minutes...
last demo is wow
Thank you for checking it out🙏🏼!
@@undulations I had Model Samples which later I replaced it with Octa due MS limitations. I always thought these pads are pretty shitty and useless. Now I see they could be pretty awesome instrument.