Stimming reviews the Elektron Model:Cycles (Electronic Beats TV)
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2020
- Telekom Electronic Beats TV's gear expert Stimming is back with a new review, this time of Elektron's six track FM based groovebox Model:Cycles.
It features six unique Machines which can be configured with either percussive or melodic synth engines, in one lightweight unit.
This is the swedish company's second entry level groovebox and is priced accordingly at 329 Euros.
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I like the way he just pulls any synth he wants from under the table
With Telekom as your partner you will be able to pull almost anything from under the table. ;-)
And they're all kept in a bucket.
No there’s a mystical creature who sits there is whole like waitin to supply the artist with the equipment in need.
I liked the dad dancing and funny little finger waggle myself
lol
Stimming reviews are the best. Very informative, and he really makes the machine shine. Thanks!
@Mønarch Or the overly positive reviewers that seem to just be regurgitating the manufacturers' marketing lines at times. Stimming manages a unique combination unlike any other: playful and joyful, but informative and honest.
Nope Loopop every time
mate... under that desk it's wonderland
I could watch stimming review a half eaten banana
quality comment
Same
@ITSJUSTABASIC I like synth reviewers like this dude cuz the accent makes it feel even more authentic and scientific
Wtf? While you’re thumbing his bum or what?😆
Jah...jah...jah
You seem very honest and trustworthy in all your reviews. I like the fact that you focus quite a lot on what you _don't_ like with a product.
i love how clean and crisp the sounds can get 🥺☁️
so inspiring to see you just being yourself, without cutting out the quirks. thanks.
I love how he can make anything he uses sound so *stimming*, amazing
"I cannot trust the rubber." - Stimming
Words to live by man! Hahahaha
Triangle Wave Records O M G
🤣
They're only 99% secure, or how much it is.
Thank you ! FM drum synthesizer is, itself, a wonderful idea, and it sounds very great ! Thank you TEB team !
Love your style of presentation. Ordered this Model:Cycles from Guitar Center last night, based on this demo video and Red Means Recording, a few others. You make great beats and tunes, too, my friend and mentor!
I love your reviews, they make me smile.
I really adore the chord inversion functionality. Stimming doesn't even mention it, but I imagine it is a game changer. Cause with other machines with only chords in root position, everything sounds quite cheap pretty quickly, as soon as chords are more than 2 notes apart from each other. Inversions is what (good) piano and guitar players do intuitively, so the tonality can change without having the chords jump up and down all over the place. Really neat feature!
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Plaits (and I assume the microfreak) has this control as well.
Funny how excited he got about the chords feature. I've been wanting the chord feature as its own mini module since it came out haha!
Stimming is my favorite tv show, great music, great reviews and lots of useful learning too
Find the new reviews here www.musictalk.tech
You’re the best Stimming and EB!
Another superb review! :) I really like the play-ability of model synths. They sound good for the price - kick is Huge :)
Stimming bleibt mein Hero u.a. in Sachen TechTest. Nach wie vor ein Fest für Herz&Seele (&das Portemonai ;-)) wie ehrlich und fundiert er die Geräte testet & präsentiert. Sowohl mal wieder ein Dankeschööön an Stimming & Telekom Electronic Beats für die Jahrelang andauernde & stetig qualitativ steigenden Beiträge (u.a.). :-)
These videos are great. I feel like I have learned methods to play the drum machines live in front of an audience. Really eye opening! Thank you. More!
More at musictalk.tech
14:27 is one of the most accurate descriptions of an LFO
My favorite artist.. my dream is to go to one of your shows. Absolute genius.
Got a cycles to review it and i totally overlooked the ctrl-all ! Awesome stuff.
Großartig... toller Typ... tolle Präsentation... und ein sound der über jeden Zweifel erhaben ist! :)
stimming has a unique talent to bring out oraganic feelings with digital stuff.
Stimming reviews are the best thing out there!
Starting @13:26 and with the chords I'll buy it immediately!
These are great reviews! Big up's Stimming & Telekom Electronic Beats
But they moved to musictalk.tech now
@@ElectronicBeatsTV cool, thanks
love stimmings reviews.
Ein neues Stimming Review. Sehr schön. Das Produkt spricht mich nicht an, aber diese Reviews sind immer sehr gut gemacht und unterhaltsam. Nicht so gescriptet und er schaut mit dem Auge und Ohr eines Musikers/Künstlers. Nicht mit denen eines Promoters der stumpf die Funktionen runter leiert. Big Like again !
Stimming, you should come to Detroit man. love your live shows for real. As for the model cycles it is cool, I think its great what they are doing. but I hope the focus goes back to their roots. great review as always btw. I would also like a review of the O1/Iv might be one of the coolest new companies IMO
I only need Stimming reviews from now on
THE review Iv been waiting for #ModelCyclesVerdict #ModelCyclesStimmingReviews
This is a product i have ben thinking of! - now i will dive into the review! - Levi
Sounds good, looks terrible!, ha,ha! - but a good review!
Love Stimming!
Uncle Martin does a review of the »Elektron Model:Cycles«? OK, this is gonna be a good day today.
Side note: I am pretty sure Martin Stimming could review a telephone book of Tokyo and it would be pretty damn informative AND entertaining.
2nd side note: Loving his attitude at 18:07 ... :-)
8:58 "you don't have to study jazz"
*jazz music stops*
Stimming... I fucking love you and yr reviews. 🖤👊. On another note i feel this machine sits in the middle. Alot of mids and lows tonally. Love it though. I love the clicky bits aswell. Love the clicks
Lieber Martin, und wieder einer, der aufgrund deiner frischen und objektiven Art, ein Produkt vorzustellen und es mit unglaublichem Feeling&KnowHow zu „befummeln“ - es einfach mal gekauft hat 🤗👍🏻
Seine neuen reviews findest du auf musictalk.tech
You can never fully trust the rubber anyway
One my third broken model samples the rubber is awful
@@dorbid I don't get the joke 😬
The last jam there at the end was good.
This guy just speaks my language. Now I understand this instrument.
very nice review thank u master :)
very cool man.MERCI
As always, Stimming reviews are the best. Except for the name.. my phone always tries to corrects it to stinking ;)
I ordered my Cycles before this mess started, so no idea when I'll get it, but I just have to say: the fact that this is the same price as the DrumBrute Impact is absolutely bonkers. I love the Impact and its super raw sound, I just mess around on it for hours, but, I mean, the kick alone in the Cycles seems to be more versatile than the entire Impact, with it's fairly limited palette of sounds and no parameter recall. I think a lot of it will come down to taste, like Stimming says. I love Impact's raw sound, can't wait to see them play nice together.
Stimming 🕺...I will pay for more ! Thanks man for revue and cost me $399 more
@Stimming: Can you do a video on your live gain staging and how you record your hardware when in studio versus live? I noticed I didn't see the Microfreak / Model Samples at your live gig? Hope you are well~
10:26 sounds like a stimming track already :D
@stimming your reviews are the best!!
Stimming enlightened
Sold !!!
This is a great review. I have to know what kind of cables those are.
"it sounds different to all the other drum machines that are clones of clones"
i agree that it sounds different. the other machine that also sounds different and sounds really impressive is the korg volca Drum.
i tried it at the store and it was really surprisingly good. i should go try this out... could be a very good source of samples for drums for my MPC
meh, drum is decent for sound design but as a complete unit, not that great
@@inf0tr8r i absolutely agree... it' a volca in the end and the form factor is not ideal for proper playing... i was just commenting on the sounds themselves i was really pleasantly surprised. that kick almost blew my head in. it would definitely be a cool machine to buy for drum sound shaping and sampling into a more robust sampler
Hey, I can't really choose between,
Volca Drum vs Model Cycles
I honestly don't really need the sequencer and playing from the hardware, I'll mostly use it for sound designing drums and sequence it from daw.
In case of sound design, which one would go further ?
@@Bigjuggs64 i haven't tried model:Cycles so i can't judge, volca drum taught me that. youtube reviews don't do its sound justice in my opinion. on my headphones it sounded solid af. i only tried it at the store for 30 minutes so i didn't really get into much sound design apart just messing around blindly with sounds and parameters so i dont know how deep the sound design is.
model cycles has chords though so maybe that is something you want. the volca drum sounds are all monophonic. i would guess that control wise, cycles would be easier since all the knobs are there while vd seems more complex and much less intuitive.
@@Bigjuggs64 - do yourself a massive favour and use the Model Cycles midi synced to your DAW. If you're looking at hardware you may as well get the benefit of an amazingly powerful, creative hands-on sequencer :)
Would like to see a stimming digitone review
11:44 bring it on Martin! 🙏
Try the pulsar 23. It's the height of innovation currently
It's difficult to get hold of though
@@nathanbell6962I'm sure Telecom wouldn't break a sweat
@@allilatif1600 I'm sure Mr. Kreimer wouldnt care about telekom knocking on the door :) nevertheless I ordered one and hope to review it soon. and yes, I'm looking forward to this
apples and oranges, dude!
Stimming reviews the SOMA Pulsar 23 here:
czcams.com/video/Fp6vDeSEVHE/video.html
The closest sounding drum machine would probably be Microtonic. Which I love. (This also sounds fantastic to me.)
6:12 went from Mr fingers to Ricardo to Floating Points to Joy Orbison real quick.😅
"what it really stayed was that this machine was usable." Priceless statement ahaha!! I have a volca Drum i dont know why this reminds me of the volca one! One question: does it Record separetly tracks via USB? It would be nice with individual outs in each channel :(
Awesome. Sound like a circuit bent Casio
Stimming ist handsdown der beste Typ \o/
the reverb sounds good AF
Try sending the chord machine into the reverb. It sound horrible, no movement in both of them. Once you add a little pitch LFO to the chord, it starts to shine. That’s too bad. I can’t use the LFO as an attack envelope because I always use it as a vibrato.
@@TheSlowGrowth that sucks. can you still work around it? I also use vibrato a lot on my synths, slow or fast with little depth.
Thank you for verifying the uniqueness and I’m still figuring mine out? Perhaps I run an old octapad on it to have a good synth percussion 🥁 TwirK $
great video, can you check out the volca drum after seeing this? they seem a bit similar in some aspects
Pads on m:C are close to useless for finger drumming... but with midi controller (pads n keys) its perfect. One of the most original drum machines/synths on the market. I am always there really fast when i search for the song idea. Performance friendly also.
Please let Stimming do a review of the Analog Rytm Mk2!!
yes sir
1) I need that shirt! 2) your cycle sounds better than mine ;-) 3) once again thanks for a really cool and honest review!
here you go for the Shirt: bit.ly/2VYI1yv
ohrwurmkl.bandcamp.com/merch/ohrwurm-9-years-tshirt / may add the tshirt Stimming is wearing soon
some very good points here. Mainly very soon you realize the machine sounds repetitive. As per noise - I cannot agree on that, mine is compressed, not heavily, but I cannot hear any disturbing noise, so maybe there are some units with issues. The sequencer is gold, and I keep mine mainly as secondary drum machine and sequencer for model D.
Freeze frame ending ftw
100% Truth
part at 13:35 was so cool
9:26 is so great.
Thank you for another nice review of Stimming. Now I am a little bit confused which one to buy, model sample or model cycle. In my opinion the color range of the model cycle is so limited, that I would sound like others using this maschine too? Dont know?
get the samples.. I have both and like Martin, I was a bit underwhelmed by the cycles. I am still going to keep it mainly for the metal and chord machine which are really nice but the sonic possibilities regarding pure drum sounds is much better with the samples. Especially snare and claps are a really weak spot on the cycles
tbh, it sounds like a stripped down version of the Jomox Alpha Base to me. Pretty awesome fresh sounds. I might get one of these.
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Interesting comparison, they couldn't be more different in every conceivable way but I love that you heard Alpha Base hallmarks in this lovely little machine!
6:46 die Reaktion 😂(Review short version)
The authenticity of your reviews is the same as you as a person, I'm sure. It's the first time I see u but I already very like your way to demo. The only thing is when sometimes u handle the devices a little bit hard imo, when I handle instruments I treat them as I'm holding a newborn XD XD XD u as were holding a wrestling fighter XDX DXD XD X D when I saw u beating the An-Rhythm pads on the M:Sample video I almost cried XD XD X D D
Bisschen Man Crush :) Und, ich mag ja mein Digitakt, aber glaube fast, mit dem Ding - als standalone zumindest - würde ich mehr Spaß haben. (?)
The freakin tiny displays man, in 2020.. This is the Achile’s heel on all Elektron synths. I have the A4 mk2 and it’s such an amazing piece of gear, but the freakin small display really messes you up after 2-3 hrs of interaction. You start seeing double.
The screen reminds me of the type of gear released late 90s / early 2000s. For some reason it just makes my brain shut off lol.
Displays are cheap to manufacturer. I just think Elektron get lazy by using previous form factors to release new gear. Look at the gear they've released to prove my point
Zac Dior, seems like it. Well, let’s hope they won’t sleep on their laurels. We all know what the price for that is.
Yes it's what puts me off buying these things. People talk about going DAWless and then end up staring at a 1cm x 2cm screen.
I think they were trying to keep costs down and keep the form factor small. I feel like a small screen might work on a simplistic device like this. Something more complicated maybe not so much.
It's fun to use with a midi keyboard.
Not sure if you have been asked before. What speaker sitting next to you? Looks really cool.
11:41 The best pattern
I know it's an old machine, but I would love stimming to review (and jam with) the sonic potions LXR
Head over to www.musictalk.tech there will be a Vermona DRM1 MK4 review end of next week and a new Stimming series called Modern Classics with the MFB Tanzbär as first episode.
Best review!
Can someone explain what is happening on 12:30 How do I achieve this?
Retrigger parameter locks for each of the 4 steps and note parameter locks as well
Everyone always forgets poor ol Nord drum... different and amazing sounding.
Yes, dialing in a sound with one knob... I feel sorry for the sound engine to get such a interface. She really didn't deserve that
@@MartinStimming Yea, it was an "interesting" design decision. Buuuuttttt... Since all the voices are the exact same synth engine, once you get yer head around the params (and there's really not that many parameters the interact to make an insane variety of sounds), it's actually REALLY fast to create and modify sounds. But the learning curve is kinda nuts. I guess it's like those stenographer machines they use in court or something... :) But glad to see you agree that the Nord Drum is indeed a hot readheaded Swedish chick! :) Just got my Model:Cyles to sequence the NordDrum and use the 3P's pads to program patterns into the M:C... It's a Swedish Threesome!
i thought your nordD was retired after getting an alesis strike. lol. every time i’m out and the band is using a nordDrum.. i can tell acoustically - it has character..
@@mrrafsk ha! Decided I didn't like the limitations of of samples. Plus strikes lack of sample management made it a pain to use
@@MartinStimming we desperately need a properly developed software editor or a new knobby version of the ND2
i see stimming i click liekkkk
is it possible for Stimming to get him self a Machinedrum SPS-1UW MKII and show it to us?
Had the same problem with the Model: Samples, one button fell off, had to replace the whole mat underneath. I really hope it was the first batch too
Martebar
It was.
Wohrurm? Ohrwurm!
Hey Leute,
Hat Stimming eigentlich ne Review zu dem älteren Model:Samples gemacht? Werde auf eurem Kanal irgendwie nicht fündig.
Super Video übrigens, as always ✌️
czcams.com/video/pL8W70H9_94/video.html
ja, hat er. Findest du hier in der Playlist czcams.com/play/PLfRh37c5lvivSDyrYwwCm1H1xJrp0aj4M.html
12:33
Macht mich sehr neugierig 😜
so can you get some pretty deep kick bass with this, if not what would you recommend under 500 bucks
Hey :)
Can you tell me wich audiocables you are using? :)
Interesting review, but it's a shame there are no subtitles available for this video.
17:59 how do you make this side-chain effect please ? Great, fun and serious at the same time.
diese stimming reviews sind wirklich super nice; vielen dank!
diese neue elektron china-kiste klingt und groovt sehr vielversprechend aber ich weiss nicht ob ich geld für so ein wegwerf-instrument ausgeben mag...?
also wegwerf-instrument würd ich hier echt nicht sagen! es ist gut benutzbar, ich würde sagen mindestens ein element kann sie ganz sicher in so gut wie jedes elektronische stück da draussen hinzufügen und es würde irgendwie passen. sie fühlt sich halt nicht so gut an wie die "großen" elektrons.
does this hardware product only have 6 tracks at the same time or are others added as happens with the roland mc 101?
can I use its effects if I add a hardware synth or another drum machine?
it has "only" six tracks at a time and no, you cannot use its effects. the bigger brothers can do that (digitone especially)
Does this thing has nice cowbell sounds similar to 808s?
The overtones from the FM (and ringmod?) can sometimes be VERY unpleasent to my ears and easily too bright but he is such a skilled programmer and keps them under good control, while other producers may struggle a little bit with. So watch out. The bassdrum I realy like, the sequencer and chord looks very promising. Interesting he points out that the maschines sound appeared to be very usable in a production, which is an important sidenote and in the end will decide over dust or duct tape on it on the long run.