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Can't wait for City to send him on 5 consecutive loans to Lommel, Troyes, Breda, Girona and Sichuan only to be sold on a free to a third division club in England
More like Girona ,stade brest ,Southampton and Burnley
@@declangaming24that’s plenty
You forgot Palermo. CFG own them too.
would it be different if Real Madrid got him, i don't think so
besides, his success is purely based how well he plays. if he's not good enough to make it to the first team, he'll be sold. this is how it's been for years
Tim Ream is so underrated for an American CB. Consistently a solid performer for Fulham & helping get promoted to the Premier League and stay in it. Then there's his connection with Antonee Robinson. We sleep and underappreciate him because he's just a defender. And you need players like him to push forward the quality floor for the country.
Chris Richards is probably better already and Palace has a pretty good record of training up young players for England’s national team (although those players sometimes devolve after moving to bigger clubs 😆).
No, you "sleep" because he's an average championship-level CB with an error in him. Fulham consistently look worse with him at the back. Remove Palhinha from the equation and see what happens.
As a Canadian, I'm excited and hopeful for the future of us riding on the American coattails in soccer on the world stage.
Annex Canada who says no
If anything the US rides Canadas coattailes. No US Player has anything on Phonzie Davies or Jon David
@@napoleonbonafide4185as a European I don’t like how Canadians think they are like us
@@TheCommentor- I think Americans are more like Europeans than we are.
@@BatmanDrugs1 the healthcare and political ideologies speak for themselves
As a union fan I love the move. Union academy is goated for producing youth players. From the Aaronsons to 2 of the 4 Sullivan’s. Trusty. McKenzie. De Vries. McGlynn. Whole list of players playing in Europe came from the Union Academy.
"I am aware of the story of Freddy Adu."
AND ZERO CONTEXT. That cracked me up so badly. LOL
The one thing that you’re completely missing though is that we don’t have the coaching to take the next step. We have the upcoming talent. We have the current player pool, but we do not have the coaching to back it up. Our Federation is too corrupt to get the proper coaching.
As a competitive U13 coach… I agree. Sort of. I can’t speak to corruption… but I can speak to the courses and curriculum used to train American coaches… and it’s greatly inferior to European coaching education. I refuse to pay for US Soccer courses. I have learned more simply by studying full replays of European games.
@@natelung I was more so taking a stab at Gregg Berhalter. Our senior national team set up has been a long line of questionable coaching choices. But at the top, the Federation wants coaches that it can control and doesn’t always have the team itself Best interest in mind. I think that’s spills a little bit to the U23 and U20 level but below that I not sure about corruption.
@@natelungThis is the crux of the issue. I'm from another very large country, one that cares more about footy and has historically been good, but this is our problem as well. There's been several massive changes in the game, both tactically and in terms of science/prep, and any federation that has not made the step up wholesale, meaning all the coaching and environment starting from grassroots level, is now struggling.
@@gracielynn9623 join the club the FA have not appointed a title winning manager to the England team despite having 2 generations of highly talented players.
@@wubear260 USMNT🤝ENFT having shit coaches
A decade-ish ago, it was a BIG deal when Geoff Cameron or Dempsey moved to mid-table teams like Stoke or Fulham, and now we're talking about US players winning the Premier League or Champions League. The growth in talent, and how quickly it's happened, has been insane.
now tyler adams ending up at leeds after impressing at leipzig felt a bit underwhelming
Which American won the Premier League recently?
@@gugga2745as a German who watches the Bundesliga: He was good but I would not say he was impressive. There was a reason why they sold him. In my opinion you guys got hyped up a little bit to fast. How often did I read that there would be now several players at world class teams and what was meant were players like Weah, Adams, Reyna, Pulisic which all did not play for the best 5-6 teams and also did not get much playing time there.
lol the only american to win the pl recently were pulisic who was a bench player and the man city backup goalkeeper, let's not get ahead of ourselves
Even still regardless of exaggeration the point being the increase in talent from the US has been undeniable and its already bothering people online lol, Whatever people think of the US they're growing rapidly in football and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. @@derefhrsjk
zealandism is over no green light
He is a really talented kid. I’m from Philadelphia and there have been multiple times people have brought him up completely unprompted. But to put things in perspective for US fans, if everything goes right he stays healthy, keeps growing, stays athletic and stays good enough for Man City at every level. In five years time he will be in the position that Oscar Bobb is in right now. He is Norway’s 4th best player 25 and under. The US is making progress but I don’t think it’s clearly ahead of other nations starting to embrace soccer like Japan, Norway, Korea, etc. And let’s try not to put so much pressure on the 14 year old.
The key will be kids like this actually being developed inside the US, not an American who moves to Europe and develops there. Most of the current USMNT first team guys got most of their training and development outside the US when their families moved to Europe to let their kid get proper coaching and development, and/or they were actually born and raised overseas in a top footballing country but just so happened to have one American parent and honestly weren't good enough to make their native country team so they enlisted with the US. For the US to improve, that improvement needs to come from US-born and US-trained players. I've been a youth club coach in the US and the training we receive as coaches is sub-par, but the courses I've taken overseas are showing how real clubs and federations train their players. If this Sullivan kid and kids like him begin to be developed inside the US, that will be the key change.
if anything, I'd posit that the biggest offender is the sport system of the MLS and the structure that keeps it running. I don't see the US making headlines on the world stage or reaching the 2nd tier of football teams until it adopts the same economic and competitive rules that the rest of the world plays with (transfer market, promotions/relegations, lower divisions, en masse investment into youth, free access to all academies etc..)
The culture surrounding the game atm from a football fan and an outsider's perspective is one of entertainment first à la NFL. Even with more than 300M population, I can't imagine serious talent being bred at a good enough pace to make a decent team as it stands.
This is mostly true, but not always the case. Gio Reyna was a fixture in New York City’s system. He transferred to Dortmund and was with their first team within months. Tyler Adams came up through Red Bulls’ (*spits*) system and played several seasons with their first team before moving abroad.
Cavan did develop with the Union, and he’ll be with them until he’s 16. Much of the development will be done. The creation and improvement of MLS academies has done wonders for youth development in this country. It’s much better than it was 15 years ago.
The United States has the demographic potential, but lacks the structure. I give you an example.
Fermin López (FC Barcelona)
It was born in El Campillo, a village in the Sierra de Huelva with 2k inhabitants.
2007: he begins to play for the El Campillo federated club, probably at 5 years of age.
2011: scouts from Recreativo de Huelva, a club from the capital of his province that plays in the third category of Spanish soccer, signs him. He is 8 years old and is already in a professional club.
2012: Real Betis, a historic first division club from the city of Seville (4th metropolitan area in the country), sees him in the Huelva recreational club and signs him. He is 9 years old.
2016: Barcelona looks at the Betis players, and decides to sign Fermin, taking him to the other side of the country. He is 13 years old.
2024: Play in the quarterfinals of the Champions League, score a goal at the Bernabeu in a classic in front of 400 million people and debut in the Spanish team. He has 20 years.
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Now I ask. Does the USA have the structure necessary for an MLS academy to find an 8-year-old talent from a 2K village in Wymoing?
Furthermore, the cost that Fermín's parents have spent for his son to play soccer is anecdotal. Maybe 100 dollars a year when he was in the camp.
@@Mumujalegothis isn’t really comparable. US states are around the same size as most European countries. Barcelona finding someone from a rural village in Spain is very different than a club in coastal America scouting somewhere as far away as wyoming. To give you an idea, from NY to California is about as far as Lisbon to Moscow. Logistics just work differently in NA than europe due to the vast nature of the area and sparsely populated nature of many states. For example, how things work in say NY are completely different than that of Montana as their populations are night and day, and these aren’t small regions. Montana is geographically comparable in size to Germany but only has 1 million people, that’s very different than a small rural village in one state, it’s an area the size of one of the biggest countries in Europe with a fraction of the population. That being said, we do have collegiate level sports and a draft in MLS so yes, even with said logistic differences there are mechanisms in place to allow such things, just realistically growing up rural in the US is VERY different than growing up rural in Europe, our population centers are just way further apart and it creates more isolation. Sports culture and structure are also just different in NA due to historical and geographic differences when compared to europe, our continent is far less densely populated and sports historically revolved around academic institutions as opposed to clubs. Club sports only became popular in the US(outside baseball)in the early 1900’s-post WWII period with the adoption of a franchising model which gave a lot of much needed stability for a north american market. Prior to this we had more of a club model but it just didn’t work, socioeconomic differences between markets would force them to fold and often times they’d be competing with colleges for fans. Also child labor laws make a lot of what you’re discussing very difficult if i’m not mistaken in a lot of the US, though this would depend on the state etc as laws vary a lot region to region here especially with stuff like that.
“I’ve been sounding.”
You do you but some things are better kept private.
imaging running with that shit.
Shout out to Tim Howard, Brad Guzan and Friedel who Z seems intent on forgetting when listing Americans in the PL.
Lmao exactly. Besides arguably pulisic, Howard was the best player to emerge from the US
Calling it "marssa" instead of marca is crazy
Sometimes Z overcomplicates the pronunciation on things lol
It's clearly short for Marcelona
@@MonzennCarloMallari Actually , he would day Markelona
I mean if thinks it’s Spanish then Barca is barssa
@@CommanderNova69technically catalan
I know this probably seems insane to non-US people, but when I was growing up in the american south, I remember older kids and *adult men* repeating the sentiment that boys soccer was for "grass fairies and [f-slur]s". GOLF was seen as more socially acceptable and masculine. It was more a "girls sport" where/when I grew up. I think the chasm between the USWNT and USMNT performances historically shows that was, at least to some degree, a nationally shared sentiment.
The shift to now is hard to overstate.
Cavan Sullivan is going to be the US's first ever true wonderkid. And yes, by wonderkid, I mean on the level of Endrick potentially. 10 years ago, guys with Pulisic ability in America were considered a serious anomaly. 2010 has 3 guys that I think are going to be ELITE as well: Winger Jamil Danjaji, AM Robert Turdean and CM/AM Will Recupero. I would also argue for abroad CB Tyler Meiser, GK Diego Kochen, FB Manu Romero and CF Austyn Jones can all be considered dual nat wonderkids that America has access to. Give it 10 years.... we're going to start producing Cavan Sullivan's more frequently
Sounds like much adu about nothing to me
(bud-dum-tish)
You know what should be over? Zealand slacking off and not walking, he needs to walk more.
To anyone who missed that one video, this looks like a new channel being hounded by fat-shamers
@@alliedatheistalliance6776 my intention is not to fat shame Zealand, I only did it because of the joke and that's it.
@@pocoloco4788 I know, I didn't mean to imply you were, it was just funny to me that people seeing a bunch of comments telling him to go for a run might come across that way.
I still think that the North American mentality of having to pay membership fees to play on youth teams, or especially to attend top-tier youth academies will limit the overall potential of both the US and Canada for producing more world-class talents. You might have an uptick in overall interest, but until pay-to-play starts to decline and the overall net gets cast wider for potential talent, the programs are probably still going to only produce one or two generational talents and a lot of “okay” talents alongside.
The best youth academies are no longer paid. Basically all the MLS ones are free now, and USL is slowly reducing and eliminating fees. Still an issue for the next tier of players, and the fact that the free academies don’t start until 11 or 12, but it’s slowly happening.
@@thepeopleslibrary9345that’s good. I just remember when I was a kid how expensive playing in a regular recreational league was, let alone an actual academy. But twenty-five years is a long time for things to change, so I’m glad to see that at least some of the progress to opening up pathways for everyone to play and be noticed is happening.
Yeah as a canadian, free sports academies is wild to me. The best hockey schools around me (not the best province for hockey development, MAYBE like 5th) are anywhere from 15k-50k PER YEAR to play depending on age, assuming you even get on the team
@@ryan_alexandersame on LI hockey programs and soccer academies are so expensive
Goes for gymnastics and swimming too. I have daughters in those sports and it does cost a lot, but unlike those sports, MLS knows that if they develop quality players, they will get a lot of money back. The improvement of MLS and USL academies has been immense. USL has helped develop Diego Luna and Fidel Barajas-a couple of quality players in our youth system (Barajas could still play for Mexico).
Quite apart from the increased availability and visibility of football (leading to more interest at younger ages), another thing that is helping the US is that the young footballers are breaking free from the old US model of getting a college scholarship to play football... while the college game might be a safety net to help later developers, the majority of true greats in football sign up to a professional side early, and get professional-grade coaching and development.
More and more of the US youth players are doing this, and that will only help them to develop - admittedly some may end up misfiring or burning out (think Freddy Adu, whose career never hit the heights that were expected of him), overall, having access to this extra level of coaching from an early age can only help them improve.
This is some real $hit
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Yo thanks dude
I never thought we'd have this high of a prospect.
If you want to help the kid reach his potential, let this be the last video you do on him until he's at least 17 or 18. No 14-year-old needs this kind of pressure. Let the kid play and enjoy his football without feeling like he's got the country's hopes on his shoulders.
... Did you like, watch the video? The entire point of the video is that the kid represents what's coming, not that he IS what's coming. It's not so much about Sullivan as what Sullivan represents and it doesn't really matter if he's really good, the mere fact he's good enough to sign with a premier league academy is a sign of the younger generation being more talented than previous ones.
@@kyletucker3811even more pressure put on him if hes representing an entire generation
@@Mihara01bro are you stupid?
@@kyletucker3811 You've never heard of Jonathan Spector, have you?
Do you really think that CZcams hype will be the downfall of him?
His downfall, and I hope it doesn't happen, it will be because he's a fucking 14 year old kid going to man city.
Funny how in 94 i was litle kid playing goalie and in love for Tony Meola, seeing the games from Portugal 😊
I remember telling people years ago that when the US take note of football, they will rise and rise quickly.
The attitude and infrastructure they put into sport is unbelievable. Put that into football and they will be a threat
Unfortunately, it's a lot more complex than you think chief.
@@dandkesh8983 I'd love you to expand on that theory
He's offside when he receives that pass for the scorpion kick I'm pretty sure📴
you know waht, i am buying into the potential of US winning a world cup
Beating England in the final would grant us bragging rights for eternity 😮💨
RIP Football. Arise Soccer!
Haha No.
There should be an annual soccer v football match, with players choosing a side. Then for the next year everyone has to refer to the game based on whoever wins.
@@Lgx-ie4if HAHA yes
@@alliedatheistalliance6776 they do that with Rugby I believe
@@alliedatheistalliance6776Pretty sure the Football Team would have Players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neuer etc. in it since they all call it Football,Futbol or Fussball and on the Soccer side there would only be players from Australia and the US 💀
The United States has the demographic potential, but lacks the structure. I give you an example.
Fermin López (FC Barcelona)
It was born in El Campillo, a village in the Sierra de Huelva with 2k inhabitants.
2007: he begins to play for the El Campillo federated club, probably at 5 years of age.
2011: scouts from Recreativo de Huelva, a club from the capital of his province that plays in the third category of Spanish soccer, signs him. He is 8 years old and is already in a professional club.
2012: Real Betis, a historic first division club from the city of Seville (4th metropolitan area in the country), sees him in the Huelva recreational club and signs him. He is 9 years old.
2016: Barcelona looks at the Betis players, and decides to sign Fermin, taking him to the other side of the country. He is 13 years old.
2024: Play in the quarterfinals of the Champions League, score a goal at the Bernabeu in a classic in front of 400 million people and debut in the Spanish team. He has 20 years.
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Now I ask. Does the USA have the structure necessary for an MLS academy to find an 8-year-old talent from a 2K village in Wymoing?
Furthermore, the cost that Fermín's parents have spent for his son to play soccer is anecdotal. Maybe 100 dollars a year when he was in the camp.
It’s a totally different landscape now. I was born in 92 in Indiana and I don’t recall seeing anyone wearing kits till I was 15 or so.
I'm just happy to see more American players are getting noticed and the culture as a whole is changing. Don't know if we are going to reach the level of the top leagues in Europe, but as long as the US can at least be proud of how well our players are playing then I am happy.
I obviously can't know if this kid will reach his potential, however it definitely feels that the US will go well in the upcoming years. No idea if they can win a world cup, but going far in it, feels the most likely
Am I the only one old enough to remember Freddy Adu when he burst unto the scene this age?
There’s an American goalie in the Real Madrid academy too
You mean Kochen? Kochen is a Barcelona guy
Irish people caught howling at someone naming their child Cavan
Some Farrelly probably pissing his pantaloons because Cavan got mentioned
Soccer is coming
You forgot to mention the beast that is Brad Friedel. 💙
Stu Holden should be in the same tier as Dempsey and Donavon, damn it we were robbed
RRAHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK IS GOOD HEALTHCARE
America’s healthcare is good tho
@@yetekt6953 but no free 😢
@@yetekt6953u sure about that
@@nottifps yes it’s actually very good lol it’s obvious which people don’t live in America.
@@yetekt6953we literally get healthcare tourists from Canada here because the Canadian healthcare system is so much worse than the US
Been saying exactly the same thing. You’re so sport focussed and if you put money behind it you’ll be a world super power. It’s happening.
Day time Zealandism. I feel different.
Lad should go to Chelsea or Arsenal academy for a few years, get a few years in the Championship or mid-lower PL, and then go to Milan or some other PL club. If his talent stacks up, such a path ensures a high floor career at least bar injuries or bad transfer choices. Kind of worry about talents going to City or even Germany as I'm not sure talents truly develop there due to a variety of factors. Even a club who everyone loves like Dortmund isn't that great considering all the US players who go there end up injury prone.
umm city academy is producing talents as good as any in england right now. what amazing talents has chelsea produced in the past few years? city have palmer and foden
and dont get me wrong im a Liverpool fan and fuck city
The next great hype
This is gonna be like every time England or Belguim have had "golden generations" and gone on to win nothing.
Also, because I'm sure we'll be talking about him more, it's like Gavin but with a K.
Philadelphia continues to produce.
I think some people don't see that progression because it gets overshadowed by others.
When I think of nations developing in footballing skillslike that, Japan for example comes to my mind.
Going from just having that 1 or 2 players like Kagawa to having only starters from big league clubs throughout the whole squad is insane to me.
Imagine what the generation growing up now with Zealand could do
first one second "I've been sounding"
I think it’s similar to what happened with Euros in the NBA. Some Euros came over, people called them soft, and didn’t think it would amount to much. Then, all of a sudden the best players came from all over the world. Americans aren’t going to start dominating top leagues in futbol, but I think Europeans will look around some day and be surprised at how many American players there are in the top leagues.
As a Canadian you can say the same thing for our country. Around Toronto soccer is huge, mainly due to the city being built upon a large European immigrant population. But players like David and Davies are changing people’s view on what we can do in this sport.
Cant wait for this to age like milk
Zealand, do you think that the MLS will have to move away from the traditional US draft system to the worldwide transfer system to make sure they are contracting young tallent and getting the larger transfer fees that come with it?
The draft means nothing in today’s MLS. Most of the young players are coming from academies. Only a handful of quality players come out of the draft each year now. Most players drafted don’t end up making MLS teams. It’s just an avenue for late developing players to reach MLS.
As a Dutchman who has been following all the football including the US, i'm very inclined to agree with you. But i think everyone is more excited than scared, because we all want the US to place a big part in the sport.
The Netherlands have been able to produce the world class players and reach several WC finals. Our population is 1/20 of the USA, so even if it's not going to be the #1 sports in the US, there will still be a massive talent pool and plenty of money available.
The MLS is already becoming a very solid league, i think the only thing lacking is a youth system that is on our level. But you can easily copy that from successful clubs and countries.
Also players like Dest, Tillman and Pepi who play for PSV in the Netherlands are regarded as some of the very best players in our league and the Dutch league is the #6 in Europe.
ahhhh baby's first wonderkid youtube star. you'll learn soon
It stands to reason as football grows in America then the player pool will grow and development grows therefore the chance of a world-class player being discovered grows and with one comes another and with world class players interest grows therefore the game continues growing to become the No1 sport in America and finally America joins the rest of the world
For reference, 2009 was the year the United States DEFEATED SPAIN in the FIFA Confederations Cup and only lost to Brazil by one goal. I felt the tremors before they struck the buildings.
i hope he does well, got to keep in mind he's 14 years old. Would defo fit in any other B/C tier academy teams💪💪
Anything about the crazy cupsets in the US Open Cup so far? You'd be going nuts!
Well Z,
for your one sake don't get to hyped up. There are easily 9-10 national teams that got several world class players in it. And these countries are continuing producing. The US right now got none. Pulisic is just below that for me and as much as I love Mc Kennie as a Schalke Fan he is not.
So just to become one of these teams you have to develop a few world class players, let them grow and raise the level of the players around them. With a perfect development there this will take at least 10 more years.
And even then the biggest players like France, England, Germany, Argentina, Brazil, maybe Italy, Spain and Portugal will probably have more talent in their squads.
So to have a chance to win it, you have to be always on this level. Let's say you are top 10, got a 10% chance of winning the World cup. It would not be surprising if it happens in the 7th, 8th 9th oder even at the 12th try or so. And now we are talking about half a century.
I mean look at the golden German generation: They lost 2006 and 2010, won 2014 and got grouped in 2018. And this squad was full of world class players.
Look at some squads England had: Sometimes they were world class, sometimes not and it will be at least 60 years until they win it a second time. Argentina waited 36 years for their next title, Germany waited 24 years, Brazil did not reach the final until 2002. So the way to be a serious title contender is still long and to win it will be even longer I really think.
Thank you? I'm sorry? I didn't read it cuz ain't no one got time for that
The truth of the matter is all of the major European soccer teams have kids deemed "amazing talent" at practically every level. The competition is so high practically all of them will never play a single first team game for their club.
You're right and you're wrong. This generation is definitely the best we've ever produced, but I think you're selling the 2002 team short. There were some seriously talented ballers on that team. We've yet to produce another striker as good as McBride, in my opinion.
america is gonna become the new England in football, no one wants them to win
Good. Sometimes you have to be the villain in order to win. Europeans hate the U.S. succeeding in anything, so can’t wait to see Europeans act shocked when the U.S. finally wins something worthwhile.
Freddy Adu says what up!!
Are we in mourning with the lack of lights?
There has been a culture shift. 15-20 years ago the sport was completely invisible in the states. Today its everywhere.
When you post a warning about the American Will Still, then I will start to hope. Until then, I worry our national coaching situation may fetter our national team’s ambitions. Not saying they’re all GGG but finding someone who will make them as good as the sum of the parts, who the players will respect, is the real battle. Still an awesome scorpion kick though.
As a Philadelphia union fan it makes me sad I wish we would hold on to him sign him to a pro contract and let him grow over here for his sake and so we can make a little money off of him too
Honestly with how America loves sports it's surprising this emergence came around late 2010s, US could've been competing with the top teams in the world much like in other sports
Does everyone forget the United legend... Tim Howard 😂😂
As for talent being held back by high wages in MLS, that is really only an issue for defenders. MLS teams really don’t want to use the limited roster spots that allow large transfer fees on defenders, so they pay the premium to keep good domestic talent. On the flip side, if anything there is an incentive to sell attackers below market value because of how the salary cap works.
How long until I get get his USMNT jersey?
made me realise its over for me
The current US team is the most talented it's ever been and it's still not as successful as the 2002 team was which consisted of a bunch of big, strong, high work rate people with cinder blocks for feet and Landon Donovan. As long as people like Gregg Berhalter have any influence over the national team, it doesn't matter how good the kids coming up are
Is Z about to be consumed by the void?
Zelaleeeeeem I wanted him to make it
I think the make or break will be whether it gets treated like a rich kid sport like tennis and golf where kids can be pros early or ur is treated like an exploitative poor kid sport like American football and basketball where the athletes are milked to play for free in high school and college. If they continue to be funneled to college they’ll continue to be stunted
... I'm gonna guess you aren't American. College sports aren't unpaid anymore. Athletes can sign deals with companies and get sponsorships. Heck, high school american basketball and football players are beginning to make deals. One kid made about $10 million last year for American Football at USC.
@@kyletucker3811 Ha, shows how little I pay attention to college sports. But still if the kids are being funneled to play college sports and are not allowed to be pros at 11-12 like in Europe and South America they will still be stunted. Soccer skills need to develop early and if you’re going to be a superstar you’re generally playing for n the first team at 16-18
bro any 8yo in some rio favela does scorpion crosses all day every day, that gives exactly zero indication if theyre gonna be good professional footballers
That Jamaica match 😅
I think people are getting ahead of themselves, for every 1 American like this there's about 50 turks, 100 spanish, and so on... lamin yamal was already in barca first team around his age, he's not in pillys reserves
And? The fact that the USA is able to do this in the first place is amazing, showing great promise for the future of football in the US. Of course footballing nations are better than the U.S
Stop comparing and let us enjoy the rise of football!
@@ProdbyNaz934 i dont know this is just one kid as much as i have faith in his development if this type of talent isn't produced consistently on a mass scale then not much isnt going to change tbf
@@ProdbyNaz934 not really, even scotland with a very small population has youngsters entering Premier league academies
@@eggy6745 it has more footballing prowess (maybe not internationally) than the U.S, which has only recently gotten into football and become a formidable force within the world of football.
@@ProdbyNaz934It’s a two team league lol. The vast majority of them would get smoked by top tier MLS teams.
I've been sounding 💀
So we are starting again saying that someday we'll dominate football/soccer even that we've been building global footballing powerhouse since 30 years and nothing was constructed.
Besides the increased exposure to football for younger generations I think a major reason why US football is getting better this quickly and probably will continue doing so is that americans do have quite a lot of experience developing talent and running professional clubs from other sports like basketball, baseball, etc. I believe this is why we see this development so much in the US but not so much in India and China for example. The only thing still missing is a generation of experienced coaches, but that will come soon aswell once more of the current generation retire.
And we will still have Greg as our Manager butchering our talent in 2030
Where green?
wait, you're telling me that a country with a bigger population than England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined will likely become a powerhouse in a sport that doesn't necessary have preconditions about size and becomes easily avaliable? NO WAY, I'm shocked... xD
I believe you. I actually believe you. Weston is great, Pulisic is a huge talent, Weah was good for Juventus this season. In the World Cup, i believed in US beating Netherlands. This US team can make a World Cup semifinal with a better center back pairing. Not to mention all the players that play in Ligue 1 or Bundesliga.
I think what will tell us if this is really the turning point is if the USL Championship can continue to be a stable second league and one that doesn't try to "lock down" teenagers.
I feel the issue with soccer in the US is just the pay wall it takes to get good coaching. MLS needs invest in a free semi pro league where they pay for coaching and etc. I played competitive soccer and unless you have money you dont really stand a chance. Camps in the US are expensive the best coaches are expensive and if you want to try and get your kids name out you have to be pushing it. if the US adopted a Brazil league style they would be a power house
this will solve itself naturally as more and more people get into the sport and age into being coaches, supply will go up, price will go down... also every MLS academy is already totally free
in terms of current day stars, jedi is looking at a 35 million euro move and has been maybe the best left back in the prem this year? top 3 or 4 without question
Mexico is screwed is our federation doesn't fix the scouting and corruption of certain players getting favortism because of money. We have so much talent that could go to Europe and compete, but they're always held down by Mexican football
As a barca fan he should have gone to madrid or Dorthmund. City will loan him to 3rd devision teams and eventually sell him. Madrid and Dorthmund would actually do their best to make him progress even if they loaned him
Dortmund would have been the best choice. Pulisic joined Dortmund's academy from nearly the same region of Pennsylvania and it worked out well for him
So they would've done the exact same thing🤡
@@Ballotubie no lol. If you pay attention to City's youth. They are getting and already have so many so called wonder kids. While clubs like barcelona,psg,dorthmund and madrid now are putting focus on certain youngsters. If they sign you they likely already have plans for you. At city the competition is high and you can easily be replaced
where is the green light?
I think US's 'soccer rise' is bound to hit a wall at some point. Either because the standard of CONCACAF will hamper any further development, or because the fact it has to compete with basketball or handegg for attention will steal talent, making the US kind of like a Japan or Australia: local heavyweights that are middle of the road talents on the world stage.
But I do think it'll take a while, they'll clear Mexico cause that whole country is way too disfunctional for it's own good, and it'll be fun to watch the rise.
A good time to be an American fan.
Plus the level of coaching. They're so far behind even the middle of the road teams
soccer already has higher participation at the youth level than american football does because of the risks football has. a lot of parents just aren't signing their kids up anymore. basketball tho will be tougher
I think the wall well hit is that we can’t really reach the level of France, Germany, England, Spain, Brazil and Argentina who, no matter what form in a given era, are always stacked full of players at the top level. That level is impossible for everyone else to reach for obvious reasons - the closest countries to reaching that potential just don’t have a population strong enough which kind of offsets the fact America has other major sports competing for its culture - that’s a good thing, keep it. Also yeah, being in CONCACAF limits how much exposure we get to these other top nations who by the time they’re at the U16 level, are scheduling contests against each other all the time. MLS also just can’t reach the level of the top leagues which, of course, happen to align very well to the European side of the peak teams.
That said, we can reach a level where the MLS is one of the best exporting leagues in the world to Europe, and probably perennially have a team the level of Belgium’s golden generation. We’ll be having a few more Cavan’s coming through. And though it’s not quite at that very, very top level, it will be good enough to win matches against them, and thus win a World Cup. World Cup wins are driven primarily by the big superstars anyway.
I hear this, but it’s been that way for a long time. It’s always been a good first sport that parents let their kids join. However, there has been a cultural shift-where futbol is not considered viable long-term option for parents and kids.
Just heads up that there’s some crazy stuff going on in Georgia vs Luxembourg Euro Qualifier match. Some stuff you don’t see very often. Just in case you are in dire need of topics :)
Just look at the lengths Jay Demerit had to go get a career for himself 20 years ago
Your Lights in the background may not be working, but your legs are! (Hopefully) Go on a run Z!
Speaking for Gen X, I say both “how dare you” but also “meh” 🤷♂️
The Altidore disrespect is crazy
If only we could develop the coaching ranks
What non-Americans won't get but is a very encouraging development is that a college scholarship just isn't the goal anymore. Nobody is doing what Jordan Morris did anymore and go to college, insist on staying in college, then turning down Europe for MLS. The kids are way more ambitious. Pulisic wrote the blueprint.