Viktor | Underworld Character Lore
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think the next video coming out will be a character breakdown on Quint / Jacob lane or possibly Andreas Tanis. If you have any other videos you would like to see you can reply with your suggestions
Would you ever do videos on the terminator franchise 🤔
@@cynthiaholmes5124 I would definitely do that! Thanks for the suggestion 🙏
Sonja would be awesome.
VIktor staged a coup and made the laws himself to the point where he could rewrite history, but he seemed answerable to the council no matter how many times they were destroyed. He basically made the laws and rules and was powerful enough but got trapped by them in his own mind. What I never understood is why not just keep markus as a mummy safely locked away once he took the chain. Maybe have amelia so he could take a break if he wanted, but wouldn't it have made himself safer in his mind to have what he believed to be the source whom he'd already screwed over, on ice like william?
Video on Emilia would be cool
Viktor was an absolute top tier Vampire. One of the best to be portrayed in any Vampire film. These movies are some of my favorites.
What exactly did you like about him Nick. 😊
The actor that played victor played in Dracula untolded
The very first is absolutely my favorite. There are better books, but not any better movie vampires and story that allows the mind to suspend disbelief.
The last movie I found to be a waste, killing off Michael and doing it too easily.
@@calvinford4924 no, that's a different actor
Viktor was so bad ass that he legit almost killed Michael in his hybrid form and only lost bc of a sneak attack from Selene.
Victor was also in his hybrid form too though. Js
he was hundreds of years old fighting a young boy who knew nothing, plus Viktor was sneaky to......so i salute selene!!!!!!!!!
@@Mar032891 victor isn’t a hybrid
@@ellis219redriot3 wel yes and no,no victor isnt a vampire hybrid not like michael and marcus but he is a human second generation bat hybrid.
a vampire by the definition of underworld is a human/bat hybrid,just like lycons are human/wolf hybrids.
@@ellis219redriot3 ooops you’re right I was thinking of Marcus in my head. Thanks
"This covan has become WEAK ...! DECADENT!!!".
VIKTOR was the business....
Viktor is 10 toes down🔥
I find Viktor’s character to be interesting. His actions were always cruel, but his reasoning was on point.
He was like the guy you hate but still respected for his zeal and confidence
He made sense for survival in the future
@@alhall6315 Agreed .
@@fourq2049 Exactly!
Facts bro his reasoning were good he only did it to protect his kind
Viktor was a G.O.A.T…
Gruesomely Overwhelming And Terrifying
And Bill Nighy played him… Perfectly.
This is very intense
Viktor was one of the greatest villains in the underworld franchise bill nighy was amazing as him 🤗😊🌟
His portrayal and a vampire is one of the best 🙌
Bill nighy, playing Viktor and Davy Jones, just fucking amazing.
@@maxbracegirdle9990 well said he is an amazing actor...from being in Harry Potter to wrath of the titans...he is amazing
No,he was the best,second probably Markus the rest just lame.
Bill nighy is honestly an under rated star we hope to see him in movies like this in the future
Viktor was a jerk but damn, he commanded respect.
viktor was the epitome of a devoted and ruthless leader, such a natural at it that he commanded respect and fear from even the original vampire. one of my favorite characters of all time.
WHAT’S THIS RUCKUS! Bill Nighy’s portrayal of Viktor is one of the best, if not the best, vampires in cinema history. I would love to see a film with more backstories of Viktor & the other elders. The book Blood Enemy would be great material to adapt in to a film or series. That could be a start to a revival of the Underworld franchise.
I thought I was the only one who loved that part 🤣..
@@405boy4 no a lot of us loved that part. His voice displaying outrage was perfect.
@ Anthony Yfert Blood Enemy who wrote it please.
When you consider Feudal society, it makes sense that Viktor was obsessed with bloodlines since that was one of the ways rank was achieved when Viktor was alive. He behaved just like a feudal warlord which is what he was when he was turned.
Without Viktor we won’t have the turn of events that we have.
Exactly! without him no covens, no lycans, they might have just died out or werewolves completely taken over
wel victor was good for 1 thing and thats maintaining order and some form of balance,but like always lies eventualy come out and it all comes crumbling down.
@@Marcustheseer he was the leader of his army. He was great at leading. He just got too greedy with his power
I think Victors obsession with the "blood line" simply stems from the fact that he had seen what Werewolves where capable of (they are savage beasts) AND the fact that he was of noble blood originally. As was Markus, and Alexander before him. The vampires Victor created where obviously of his court and his generals etc etc. (Sure.... William too, but he was a mad beast....)
And well, he knew Lycans where stronger than Vampires (William WAS more powerful than Markus etc).
The blending of the species would be a threat to his own power.
William wasn't more powerful than markus. He was just unable to return to his human form unlike markus
@@christiangraff5236in a fair fight would Markus defeat William?
@@viktor-os6yu absolutely. We've seen that it takes a lycan of serious size or amazing capabilities to even be able to hang against selene even in the first movie. Markus was the literal first and strongest vampire, and by the time he was woken up, he was leveled up extremely. William would still put up a hell of a fight and do a lot of damage, but I give the edge to Markus because he has complete control over his abilities where William doesn't
Yet when scientists discovered werewolves and vampires they preferred the Lycan form and further adapted it.
@@mitchjames9350Vampires powers are always on, and therefore harder to detect. Werewolves, much the same plus bloodlust. Lycans? Lycans have to transform to fully use their powers and they are mostly sane. Its just a matter of ease of control.
My favourite Vampire of all time. Awesome character played by an awesome actor in Bill Nighy.
Victor was my favorite character since the first film!
He was a OG Badass
best character from the series. had real motivations and thought behind what his character did
Some people say that Emilia was always the one to awaken Marcus so that he did not get victors blood memories, but if victor and Emilia were working together to undermine Marcus he would have read Emilia’s blood memories and found out anyway. It’s more likely that the elders can control their blood memories only showing what they want the others to see when awakening
Of course cause I think Marcus could have been looking for William all those time. Just hid those memories from the elders
Selene says that the elders can sort their memories specifically when they rotate. Viktor mentions selenes memories are chaotic and no concept of time BC she cant do that so id assume they just dont pass those memories to mar us
@@jlogan2228 True
*Amelia.
Markus could’ve easily slain Viktor and Emilia in their slumber and gotten away with to be honest. Its just plot armor
"Dawnguard" expansion for Skyrim was heavely inspired by this series. From the visual desighn to the story and characters.
I mean the only similarity I see is that there are vampires and werewolves and the vampires live in a castle
In the postmodern era, hell even during the modern era, vampires have been depicted this way.
honestly i dont see anny resemblence
@@Demos_Jeff Victor is very similar to Harkon, and his relationship to his daughter is very similar to Harkon and Serana. In addition the vampire lord form is just straight up the exact same as Marcus' bat form.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 as someone who played Skyrim until my fingers bled I agree
Well, obviously, Marcus and Amelia knew about Viktor not being The First...
Viktor was the best character in Underworld. No contest.
I really wanted to see more of Amelia
I really enjoy these videos! Viktor is one of my favorite Vampires in Underworld
Such an incredible character and actor portraying such! Entire franchise wouldn’t be nearly as good without him
Would love to see one on Marcus! I feel like he was a very under-appreciated character that had a lot of complexity
Bill Nighy needs to be held in the same regard as all the other great vampire movie actors of old like Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. He was also GREAT in Dracula Untold as the ancient "master" vampire from the cave.
That was actually Charles Dance in Dracula Untold but Bill Nighy is great. One of my absolute favorites
The scoughs he did to silence his underlings was amazing
Victor, the best character for me in underworld.. He is the real badass boss of the series....
Thank you for these underworld videos, I love the franchise and love to see the history summarized
Well done video. I was pleasantly surprised on just how much I enjoyed the video. Thanks for making it.
I just found it so absurd that Viktor, a vampire elder with the ability to access blood memories, didn’t even try to drink Kraven’s blood to verify and confirm Lucian’s death. You bite your own daughter to verify your suspicions against Lucian but don’t do the same to Kraven to verify his claim, like make it make sense lmao. That’s one of the things i never understood throughout the series.
The writers may not have thought of it at the time. You're right still, it's a plot hole.
Excellent as always
Thank you! 🙏🖤
This was a great breakdown! I learned so much
That death dealer armor is so badass I want a set
How did Marcus find out he could turn people? Maybe there are other vampires older than Viktor
Maybe seeing that his brother could turn other people?
@@jazzie9247 Now that you said it’s so obvious lol but I was wondering too
But i was having another think about it, maybe when he was feeding someone survived becoming a vampire.
its possable there are vampire on victors lv that are unknown to exist by everyone in the underworld world except for marcus he new they existed before he died,and that could be a fun idee for more sequal movies.
@@jazzie9247 😂😂😂😂
Here's something I never thought of before. If Marcus told Viktor that all the vampire descendants would die if he died, why have William locked away and not just kill him, then lock Marcus away so he couldn't commit suicide and "end the line"(so Viktor thought). It would kill 2 birds with one stone, getting rid of Marcus and also destroying the warewolf bloodline. It would have been a great strategic move because when he killed William, as we know, it wouldn't have killed the warewolf bloodline so he would know that killing Marcus wouldn't end the vampire bloodline. It's a win-win move.
Good theory but victor has a reason to be cautious because werewolves and vampires are different and have different mechanisms about themselves. While killing William may not end the werewolves bloodline maybe killing Marcus will end the vampire lineage.
In the movie Marcus warns Victor than if either he or his brother died all immortals die.
2 big reasons ego and fun,victor quickly realized he could have fun with lycons,i mean without lycans there is nothing to hunt for sport because humans are to weak for a challange.
so for fun he experimented to see what he could do with lycans and he found out they where good slaves,as for not sealing marcus away wel i dont know maybe dispite everything he grew a respect for marcus?
Victor was jus too scared to do put killing William or Marcus to the test..the movies showed this..tho he had good reason not to..he needed his daytime slaves in the werewolves and then eventually lycans..bt also he hated the thought of losing his power and influence as top dawg.. I mean the army was his ..he wouldn't want everyone thinking Marcus was his superior..I mean he literally betrayed Marcus wen they caught William because he had his own ambitions..and all the "malicious lies" he had tanis exiled for were actually true..so victor was running one the biggest cover ups in the underworld series.. don't get me wrong I do love him bt I hate him at the same time..a very well play antagonist..
Always found it funny how ol' V Diddy was so scared of a hybrid, then kicked it's arse when one pops up.
One hybrid isn't a problem. HE can kill one. The rest of the vampires would have a very rich time doing so, so it would be tough to beat several, couple that with the fact that the bloodline would become diluted or for lack of a better word contaminated.
I was a huge fan of Lucien. Underworld rise of the lycans was probably the best of the franchise. Victor is pretty boss too. I wonder who would've won in a fight in the first movie, lucien or victor?
I agree! I go back and forth with rise of the lycans and the first movie being the best. They are both so good. And that’s a good question! Lucian was shown kinda overpowering victor when he broke out of the chains in his lycan form. I think it’s possible in his lycan form Lucian would at least put up a really good fight!
I personally think Lucien would win, as he doesn't hibernate like victor. Lucien would've just improved his skills and tactics for hundred's of years increasing in strength possibly too. Victor waking up from his lil nap might play in effect too.
Viktor would absolutely destroy Lucian! He was the strongest Vampire except for Markus. Look what he did to Raze, easily held his neck with one hand and then snapped his back with ease. He's is way to old and strong!
i think victor would win fairly easy he even won from hybrid michael,but wel if lucians plays very tactical he could get the upperhand and win but in terms of overall prowess victor wins.
@@michaelfacchini1175 Viktor would NOT absolutely destroy Lucian. You have to remember that Lucian was also trained to fight very well. The other Lycans were nothing compared to him, Michael wouldn't even be able to take him down.
I think underworld had the hallmarks of a fantastic franchise, its lore was detailed and great, the only downside was its budget. If it had proper funds then if could have been even greater.
I think they would have been fine with the budget they had. The downfall came when the director starts sleeping with a female co-star and changes the movie to focus more on the Selene character. You can tell by how clumsily the story felt that the Selene/Michael love story was forced in. It just threw everything off. And the main character, Lucien, was barely a supporting character. And each sequel was worse than the last. This franchise has tons of potential but we'll never see what it was meant to be
also not center around Selene who was a pretty a gender politics and usual Hollywood action thriller which if we are honest, Underworld was unique because of the politics.
@@darmetriasroberson843 Which female co-star?
Great job on the entire slew of the videos you posted narrating the various movies and tv series.
My favorite part of this series is when it's revealed that Kraven lied to save his own skin. Like you guys are surprised that the dude named coward, turns out to be, in fact, a coward? No wander y'all can't win a, at times, severely one-sided war. Morons. Like Viktor should have taken that tattooed piece of skin and been like, 'Where the rest at?' It's not like werewolves disintegrate upon death like vampires, who also only do that if its ultraviolet light. And if the thought is that he barely escaped with his life after his whole squad got wiped, then why not take the head or the whole arm. Taking off a small pierce of skin seems like it'd be harder and more time consuming.
Victor is without a doubt the most iconic antagonist in the Underworld Franchise.
Not just because he is in more than one movie. But his performance by Bill Nighy is just fantastic.
Seems like rise of the lycans would be a proper first movie to watch in this series instead of the first underworld. I've seen all of them and I think that would make things fit together better honestly.
Bill Nighy deserved his own Vampire film. Charles Dance should’ve played his brother it would’ve been unreal
Viktor biggest strength was he wasn’t scared of Marcus knowing how powerful Marcus was. Even with his big army Marcus could’ve killed them all
I thought victor was scared of Marcus he jus didn’t fear him as everyone else feared Marcus
@@vegetabriefs2841 think about it Marcus lied to Viktor saying if he died they all die. Also they were doing the sleeping cycle Marcus could’ve easily killed Viktor and Amelia while they slept during his reign
@@travionjohnson3975 plot hole. Secondly Marcus could not bear an army of highly trained vampires
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 I agree about plotholes but remember in evolution awakening blood wars at times salene was about to move super fast to kill when she wanted too pretty sure Marcus could also do the same. And like I said he could’ve killed them while they slept shit Kraven was gonna kill all three of them
Marcus could not defeat both elders and a whole army of regular vampires.
Wow, from 2k subscribers to almost 17k in 3 months?! That's impressive.
Congrats, man.
I just happened to cross the think it's great I haven't Subscribe yet but I will. You are a true Movie fan
Back in my day you had like 1k subscribers and we walked uphill to and from Underworld school. Times were tough, but we got by.
Luv the video 👏👏👏👏
But how "Amelia" an elder vampire got easily slaughtered by only a couple of wolves.????. If victor was there lm sure he would have slaughtered them instead...
No one help them during the ambushed since there’s a conspiracy going between Lucian and Kraven to assasinate the vampire coven. They were only left with body guards and swarmed by the Lycans and vampire traitors alike.
One of my favorite underworld characters! Viktor was an amazing villian 😊
I just subscribed to your channel bro…I like how you brake down one of my favorite franchises Underworld…keep it going my dude🤙🏽👊🏽👊🏽
Thank you really appreciate it! 🙏
Great video 👍🏽
Do Sonja next! I would love to know more about her!
Viktor is my favorite character 💪😎
🔥🔥 just subscribed awesome video
Thanks really appreciate that! 🙏
Best bad ass moment when viktor took out lycan by the throat in first movie
Great video, please do one about Amelia. 🙏🏻
Love this character they done a better job on his mak up in the first one then the others im thinking.
"Underworld" is an amazing and very engaging saga. I love the movies that came out of it!
I feel that true fans of underworld were let down bc there still remains so many unanswered questions
8:29 I do love Amelia's style... she's a total vampire queen!
Awesome show
Why did they not just give Amelia blood? I would have liked to see her put up a fight she's a elder and sucks she died like that she is my favorite
The actor was Hungarian and didn’t really speak English
No one ever sees her in action so how do you know how badass she is
Fantastic
I like post, it covered some area that i was wondering about. If you can please push for prequel of the very first contact with Viktor and Marcus. That would be the best story and movie.
A history of the different covens, and whether they had elders, would be interesting.
Just stubled across your channel, great work. You've gotton a subscriber. I wish you all the best with you channel. Well wishes from Ireland 🇮🇪
Dude was pretty boss.
My favourite too, his acting is fantabulous
It will be done ... MY way.
Question why do these characters make prisons with keys. Like I wouldn’t have made William’s prison openable.
Loved Viktor in first film and were glad they brought him back for the third film- third one my fav tho it is missing Kate Beckensale
One thing I could only wish to Viktor is he would be like Prince Vlad of Dracula Untold, accepting immortality in hope to protect his family against those who desire to take away from him. I appreciate your video and studying his origins alike other Underworld characters, thank you!
Wasn't the biggest fan of the movies, but Viktor was always my favourite character (undoubtedly helped by Bill Nighy's brilliant performance).
Victor is the king of the vampire Elders.
What I'd be interested in learning, is what happened to the rest of the true werewolves after rise of the lycans. Presumably they were hunted into extinction by death dealers and maybe even some intrepid human hunters, but (at least in the films, never checked out any other media) its never truly explained.
This was an Incredible Masterpiece Origin Video for My All Time Favorite Character and Antagonist’s in The Underworld Film Series. Viktor is My Second Favorite Role for Bill Nighy. Viktor may have been a Villain at Heart but he does have the ability to Love and his relationship with Sonja and Selene is one of The Reasons why I Love Victor’s Character. Bill Nighy’s Performance as Davy Jones is The Reason I got into The Underworld Films and his Performance Didn’t Disappoint and he Truly Carried this Franchise on his Back.
A passionate, ruthless, pragmatic,cunning, sagacious and altruistic leader par excellence. "I did what was necessary to protect the species,as I am forced to do yet again".
This guy, if you add some insanity to his voice narrating the video, it would sound exactly like Zanny's voice, also, love the video
Are you gonna do the other 5 elders in the underworld franchise? Id love to see it! And loved this!
Tenis is another character who is interesting being he was the Historian. Could you do a video on him ?
Michael Sheen aka Lucian (Lycan leader) got so fed up, he switched sides and films and became Aro who is head of the Vampire's in Twilight LOL
He's got that I'm better than you thing to a fine point. I fully believe him to be a king descended from kings. A great and obvious choice by the film makers. 👍👍
Viktor was a G.O.A.T period.
Davy jones this dude is a beast.
“YOU HAVE BROKEN THE CHAIN AND THE COVENANT. YOU MUST BE JUDGED”!
Not until the werewolves learned to channel their rage they couldn't transform at will .Lycan is another term for werewolf
Could you do Lena? I like the concept of her character, and there really isn’t much to go on canonically.
Yes I will definitely make a video on her soon 🙏
Bro viktor is the strongest non enhanced vampire in the franchise bro the guy held a lycan by its throat without no effort and dispatched with just a punch and a sword to the chest
This would had been kickass television.
Viktor was basically a Lannister. Lol
It was a great movie and franchise!
They need to make a movie about The Vampire and Lycan war. BOOM!
Victor is completely awesome
Viktor literally brought the whole destruction of the Corvinus.
Markus was so blinded by his brothers affliction that he let Viktor roam free and do whatever he wanted.
While he was making sense, he was making things move the way he wanted, not the way that Markus wanted.
Sure, hes a stickler to rules but he often breaks em. An example of his cunning was his reign.
During his reign, he deals with the Council and making it seem like everyone's voices are heard and yet he creates his entire sect as people loyal to him.
During the 2nd movie, it was only then where they reached a stalemate but cam easily remedied if Sonja wasnt screwing around.
So all in all, he controlled everything and was just appeasing Markus whenever he bugs with about saving William (which prompted him on creating a prison for him).
So many covenants that were free from Viktor's grasp that weren't so awful and the vampires weren't seen as villains but rather peculiar beings or to be hunted down for experiments.
So he truly is a plain old villain but his complexity makes him appear that he has depth but he's rather 1 dimensional.
Victor is the best modern example of a true Ventrue. I mourn him.
i just think Viktor was more powerful than Marcus himself. Marcus was having some difficulties while fighting Michael,they were both already hybrids. while Viktor fighting Michael,he didn't even have anydifficulties
The reason why Victor had more success than Marcus was Victor had many times more fighting experience then Marcus Marcus was in Slumber for most of that time and Michael was still new to his hybrid abilities and was a fighter by any means as trained as Victor
Fact these elders lived so long. Survive so many battles, then to die so easily from selene and here doggy daddy
He is completely awesome
The collars were around their neck to prevent transformations, they wouldn't kill the Lycan, they'd weaken them. Hence why the Death Dealers shoot silver darts into Lucien's back.