Absolutely grateful that the first 2 parts were awesome, simply said professionally done. Pretty hard to come by for big budget movies nowadays. Confident that the 3rd instalment will be just as good with villeneuve at the wheel. You never know where it may go after that, praying that the Dune Saga does not go the way of the MCU, DCEU, Witcher, Madolorian ETC..... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Please don’t come for me when i say this. But i was a little let down Denis didnt find a good way to show the passage of time (actual book time of ~4 years) and have Alia be born. We didnt have to see her be born, or her grow up even, but all i was thinking afterwards was ‘it’s been 13 years since we saw the abomination of Renesmee in Twilight Breaking Dawn, and technology has come a long way, in that, there was a way to take the already young looking Anna Taylor Joy, and produce an amazing Alia atop a young child’s body movements.’ I was let down because i looked forward to seeing Alia taunting the Baron and the reverend mother. Secondly, I was pained there was ZERO mention of Hawat. Even a mention that he was a Hark-prisoner would have been nice. Third, I was sad to not get more of the voice used by Paul talking to the reverend mother about the place she dare not look and that he would be staring back at her. Fourth, even more of a hit, was he didnt use the “i remember your gom jabbar… now youll remember mine”. Anyways, thanks for listening to my Tedtalk. I know you can’t copy the book 100% but all of what i just said could have been conveyed in less than 10 minutes. There was absolutely time to fit that in.
Chani didn’t go on her own because of the marriage. She left because Paul was turning into a messiah who would start a bloody holy war with the great houses and kill billions. That is exactly the path he feared and shared that with her earlier. And he was used her people to do that. Former friends were dropping to their knees to worship him. She is his moral compass and has to deal with Paul because she loves him. We’ll probably see that in Dune 3.
🙄😒Book Chani understood Paul in books, and that change was inevitable and was a pillar of strength for him to lean on in hard times. She was a runner-up to be revernd mother if Jessica died taking the water of life. When the fremen were having their spice orgy she took Paul away because his visions were connecting with the people, so she alone saw the frightening potential of the future to come. She did not blindly look at Paul as a messiah but accepted this harsh path he would go down and promised to be beside him. Change for the freme had to happen in order for them not to be wiped out, including their old way of challenging the strongest to the death for leadership. Zendaya's Chani came across as winy and Hella ignant, all for the sake of girl power energy and exposition. The director thought the audience was too stupid to understand.
"I will love you until my last breath" (or as long as I breathe? idk I don't remember) wouldn't it be crazy if he actually did that already? Paul was dead for a moment... He took his last breath and when Chani woke him up, he was a whole new person who technically loved her until his death. After he's alive again, you notice the change of personality in the movie! He keeps telling her that same quote right before he chooses the hand of the emperor's daughter, which seems kinda contradictory and made that quote look as a lie. But what if Paul wasn't lying? Bro am I trying too hard to think of an explanation about such a rough and sudden relationship ending? Those scenes hurt me a lot.
There was a scene where Paul was told to use marriage to further his rule and help his path, he knew that marrying the Emperor's daughter was exactly that. So, before doing so he wanted to make sure Chani knew that it was strictly for the better of everyone and not because he wanted to. He was only following the advice he was given.
Paul followed in his father's footsteps and wanted a marriage just for political means. The reason why they didn't show it in the movies was because they wanted to make Channi look weak, I guess? In the book she is this super strong character that recovers from everything(loss of her and Paul's child, being a warrior, supporting Paul), I guess they need to make her more human and make her be jealous on an arranged marriage?
@@FireJachChani still loves him but she’s watching him change to becoming a dangerous messiah. He’s going to use her people for his holy war. That’s why she’s so disappointed at the end.
6:40 Chuni didnt leave because of the marriage. She left coz of his Ascension as emperor. When Paul first proposed the marriage before the fight, chuni was shocked but didnt leave. She was hurt but understood it was for show, since he literally just told her he'd love her forever. The difference is important, because Chuni leaving Paul for the ascension marks a much bigger deal to the sacrafices they both know hes making. Hes not only giving up something as small as love, but also his life, and the peace of a galaxy.
Just pleeeaaase give us Dune: Messiah !!! The cast was just incredible fr..! I can't wait to see Timothée Chalamet AND Anya Taylor-Joy (beauty full women btw.) together on screen.. 👀😁👌
In todays movie world movies like this are very hard to come by. Dune 1 &2 are movies so different. With a great story and effects that looks like they used practical effects to get the realism. I was really drawn into the story and my interpretation.
I’m just not a fan of the changes to Chani. I don’t like them clearly setting her up to be some type of solution in the future. Movie is still basically perfect, it’s just nerdy purist things in my soul. The lack of a time jump also irks me sightly but I kinda like the idea of Paul killing the Baron instead
I put this in a reply, but I might as well comment too.. *My official theory is that we are watching an alternate universe. Where Paul decides to take the water of life much earlier. He does this in order to ultimately save Chani's life down the line. By essentially pissing her off before their love reaches the point of no return, and before she comes to believe in Paul as the Messiah.* *This way they never have a child together. And she never becomes his concubine. And avoids the impending doom her path would entail, as written in Dune: Messiah.* *How does this work, exactly? Well, in Part 1 we see Paul having visions of Jamis becoming his best friend, who teaches him the ways of the Freman. This allows Paul to survive in the desert early on. But that path never comes to be. Because he KILLS Jamis upon meeting him in the ceremonial knife fight.* *So in THIS universe (and believe me, I do not like the oversaturated multiverse trope), he loves Chani so much that he sacrifices their bond to save her from where that fate would lead. And speeds up the timeline a full two years. Taking down the Baron Harkonnen and the Emperor before lady Jessica gives birth.* *He also has to fight Feyd Rautha two years earlier, before his powers and abilities are fully formed. Before he could "kill with a word". So he takes some extra stabby damage in that fight.* *Originally I thought of this as a way to not be so pissed about the terrible adaptation of Chani's character. And all her garbage dialogue in the second half of the film. Just so I could enjoy the movie more.* *But now I think that's actually what's happening here! And the Jamis visions are the proof. And it adds another layer of tragedy to the story, Paul sacrificing his great love story with Chani in order to save her. Which justifies the entire tone of the second half of the film. And why we are exposed to the certainty of the holy war to come. Rather than leaving it ambiguous, like Frank Herbert does in the book.* *It's NOT an adaptation. It's different path! Yay! That way when we get to part 3, we won't be disappointed by whatever it is. Because it can't be the original Dune: Messiah anymore. So be it!*
@hyun_0_0_0 never saw attack on titan. But the theory might be real. I may have unlocked the spicy secret sauce! In part 2, just before he decides to drink the water, he has more visions. He touches the spice upon the sand with his bare hand and calls to Jamis. "Talk to me, Jamis!" Jamis tells him, "He needs to see... as far as he can see! You need to see." Jamis is the key. The trail of bread crumbs added by the filmmakers. Not from the books. Showing us that Paul can see the world beyond this world. Not just the past and future. But into the splinters of time. The paths both chosen and unchosen. It's not as if he can make choices that would lead to being best friends with Jamis NOW. He's already dead. But he sees him none the less. It's the same with the visions he's had in the black ceremonial garb. With Chani beside him. Also dressed to match as his beloved concubine. And not as a soldier. That future is as good as gone. The future he gave up. The future in Dune: Messiah. *bah-buh-BAHHHH!!* *LISAN AL-GAIIIIIB!!!* 😫😫😫😫
@@ryanmowdy4014that might happen too, after all the fremman are a means to an end. Another change is the princess's proposal of marriage..I'm all for this change as I believe the influence of game of thrones has had makes this true
@@ryanmowdy4014 most likely she's going to go back to rally the non-believers. "This isn't over." 😠😂 If my theory is correct, DV might not do Messiah at all! He might do a part 3 for the Holy War itself. Where Chani's army acts like a wildcard third wheel between Paul and the great houses. I have a feeling the Reverend Mother will make her french girl, pregnant with Feyd's baby, drink the water of life to give birth to an abomination of her own. As a way of evening out the odds with Jessica and HER powered-up baby! We might even get powered baby fight! It's all up in the air now... Anything goes in DV's Duniverse! Fer SURE Stilgar is gonna bust when he jumps in a lake for the first time.
I just wish they would have stayed a bit closer to the books as the ominous dialog between the "captive" Alia, Shaddam the Emperor, The Baron and the Reverend Mother Mohiam with Alia doing most of the talking just as Paul enters and declares who he is, is one of the best parts of that book. And why they didn't have Paul add that his marriage is one of convenience only and he would not lay with her as he loves another, which is kinda how things roll in Dune to be honest. EDIT: Can't wait for Dune 3 when its projected release date to theaters is 2027!
I literally entered the theater to see how they handled Alia. Was deeply dissapointed. I hope im not the only reader who thinks this was a bad adaptation, even if it was a good movie on its own.
something that shapes Paul's path is the loss of his first son something that was not mentioned that influences the path of the holy war that will be fought
Naw...I created the best sci-fi epic ever....just haven't finished writing it yet. LOL. kidding. Dune is awesome. I still need to read the books, just like lord of the Rings. tried getting tickets for IMAX here in NYC....but sold out for weeks.
Yes , it's the best film ever to if it has a different approach from the books. The artistic choice of keeping Alia in Jessica was so good to then see her litteraly when Paul drinks the water of life. I hope we will see here more in Dune The Messia. I'm a bit sad that Denis Villeneuve won't do the children of dune or the emperor god of dune. Their so much potential
the way this guy pronounces things is so funny, “lisan-al-gabe” “chaney” no hate man but they literally pronounce it completely differently in the movie 😂😂
Yes apparently. No count fenring , no water of death . No navigators. No Jessica telling chani Paul will never bang irulan. They give reyd tje gob babar test . ( I haven't seen it but I have been told ) oh the shorten the timeliness to 6 mouths instead of 3 or 4 years
Alia remains in Jessica's womb throughout the movie and only serves as a proxy for the audience to understand Jessica's plans. Other changes is that Feyd fought fairly against Paul without any hidden poison barb during the final duel. Gurney (Thanos) killing Rabban (Drax).
@bursegsardaukar rabban is killed off page , in the book. But he was supposed to have been killed inspecting the parameter. By freman. ( but its possible gurney was with the party) although I dont it , he still wanted revenge and wanted to fight feyd himself. ?
Of all the plot that they shouldn't have included was the stupid Pocahontas Love Story, but no, they have to include that, but the worst travesty of this movie is suggest that Feyd should be a replacement for Paul in the plan of the Bene Gesserit. Anyone that wrote the script, film this movie and directed this read the books? Two things, one, the Feyd was never in the plan of the Bene Gesserit to create their perfect being, and like Paul, he is a male, that why the Bene Gesserit chastise Jessica for, because she was the key to create the perfect being, but they used the excuse to make peace with the Harkonnen with Jessica possible daughter and Feyd, that was really ridiculous and stupid, they totally break the plot by suggesting that.
The ending completely character assassinates Chani. Instead of accepting and coming to terms with the fact that Paul must marry the princess in order to solidify his empire, she acts like a snooty teenanger.
My official theory is that we are watching an alternate universe. Where Paul decides to take the water of life much earlier. He does this in order to ultimately save Chani's life down the line. By essentially pissing her off before their love reaches the point of no return, and before she comes to believe in Paul as the Messiah. This way they never have a child together. And she never becomes his concubine. And avoids the impending doom her path would entail, as written in Dune: Messiah. How does this work, exactly? Well, in Part 1 we see Paul having visions of Jamis becoming his best friend, who teaches him the ways of the Freman. This allows Paul to survive in the desert early on. But that path never comes to be. Because he KILLS Jamis upon meeting him in the ceremonial knife fight. So in THIS universe (and believe me, I do not like the oversaturated multiverse trope), he loves Chani so much that he sacrifices their bond to save her from where that fate would lead. And speeds up the timeline a full two years. Taking down the Baron Harkonnen and the Emperor before lady Jessica gives birth. He also has to fight Feyd Rautha two years earlier, before his powers and abilities are fully formed. Before he could "kill with a word". So he takes some extra stabby damage in that fight. Originally I thought of this as a way to not be so pissed about the terrible adaptation of Chani's character. And all her garbage dialogue in the second half of the film. Just so I could enjoy the movie more. But now I think that's actually what's happening here! And the Jamis visions are the proof. And it adds another layer of tragedy to the story, Paul sacrificing his great love story with Chani in order to save her. Which justifies the entire tone of the second half of the film. And why we are exposed to the certainty of the holy war to come. Rather than leaving it ambiguous, like Frank Herbert does in the book. It's NOT an adaptation. It's different path! Yay! That way when we get to part 3, we won't be disappointed by whatever it is. Because it can't be the original Dune: Messiah anymore. So be it!
Bit of a simplistic reading of her character from your end. Chani's whole character revolves around her disliking the whole messiah prophecy aspect of Paul, she is a love interest who keeps Paul grounded. When Paul finally decided to accept the prophecy when chani herself claimed "this is how they enslave us", of course she is upset. It all comes to ahead when she realises Paul is so far gone from the man she loved when he is willing to strategically marry a the emperor's daughter, even when he loves chani. Going with the flow with Paul's holy war goes against her whole character.
She literally said earlier in the movie “I’ll always love you Paul, IF you stay the same” you can’t blame her for leaving him after he turns psychotic and uses her people to start a war with the entire universe. Stop it.
@@charless.m thanks for focusing on that one part of my overall argument. My point still stands. She fell in love with Paul Atreides, not the Kwisatz Haderach which he later became. It’s idiotic to criticize Chani when she stands up for herself and goes against the power hungry leader he turned into. That’s my point.
That Channi ending was there because they wanted to show Zendaya throwing a hissy fit? I don't understand, until there everything was calculated, even he knew that he needed to marry to forge an alliance. Don't tell me, that he chose not to tell this to her? That he wants to go on his father's foot steps and marry for political reasons only.
It's a horrible movie, I did not feel like I was in the dune universe. it was too much filler, part 2 can easily be edited down to 1 hour and 30 minutes. What few highlights are too few and far between, the ending was very short, zero pacing. Biggest flop, I need a refund after watching this, dune part 2 the book of stilgar.
Absolutely missed the mark. I cannot tell you how disappointing this movie was. Not one mention of the space guild who basically ran the universe. When paul drank the water of life nothing is said or pertained to the fact that he was a superhuman. The only thing they were trying to do is set up for part three. Very disappointing to wait this long for a movie thats only done half assed.
After finishing the movie I was already ready for part 3 😂
Great movie , wished it was longer tough , the last half felt a bit rushed
For as fast as this one goes, the story was well developed and paced. All the beats make sense.
i f i wanted to read the books after I Finished the movie dune part 2 where do i continue? @@itneeds2bsaid528
GOAT movie GOAT director GOAT performances all around
GOAT composer
"jessica is initially hesitant" bro the rev mother literally forces her to drink the shi# LOL
Absolutely grateful that the first 2 parts were awesome, simply said professionally done. Pretty hard to come by for big budget movies nowadays. Confident that the 3rd instalment will be just as good with villeneuve at the wheel. You never know where it may go after that, praying that the Dune Saga does not go the way of the MCU, DCEU, Witcher, Madolorian ETC..... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
It was magical. It was refreshing to see something so perfectly done
Best sci-fi movie in the last 10 years 🔥
Please don’t come for me when i say this. But i was a little let down Denis didnt find a good way to show the passage of time (actual book time of ~4 years) and have Alia be born. We didnt have to see her be born, or her grow up even, but all i was thinking afterwards was ‘it’s been 13 years since we saw the abomination of Renesmee in Twilight Breaking Dawn, and technology has come a long way, in that, there was a way to take the already young looking Anna Taylor Joy, and produce an amazing Alia atop a young child’s body movements.’ I was let down because i looked forward to seeing Alia taunting the Baron and the reverend mother. Secondly, I was pained there was ZERO mention of Hawat. Even a mention that he was a Hark-prisoner would have been nice. Third, I was sad to not get more of the voice used by Paul talking to the reverend mother about the place she dare not look and that he would be staring back at her. Fourth, even more of a hit, was he didnt use the “i remember your gom jabbar… now youll remember mine”. Anyways, thanks for listening to my Tedtalk. I know you can’t copy the book 100% but all of what i just said could have been conveyed in less than 10 minutes. There was absolutely time to fit that in.
Chani didn’t go on her own because of the marriage. She left because Paul was turning into a messiah who would start a bloody holy war with the great houses and kill billions. That is exactly the path he feared and shared that with her earlier. And he was used her people to do that. Former friends were dropping to their knees to worship him. She is his moral compass and has to deal with Paul because she loves him. We’ll probably see that in Dune 3.
🙄😒Book Chani understood Paul in books, and that change was inevitable and was a pillar of strength for him to lean on in hard times. She was a runner-up to be revernd mother if Jessica died taking the water of life. When the fremen were having their spice orgy she took Paul away because his visions were connecting with the people, so she alone saw the frightening potential of the future to come. She did not blindly look at Paul as a messiah but accepted this harsh path he would go down and promised to be beside him. Change for the freme had to happen in order for them not to be wiped out, including their old way of challenging the strongest to the death for leadership. Zendaya's Chani came across as winy and Hella ignant, all for the sake of girl power energy and exposition. The director thought the audience was too stupid to understand.
"I will love you until my last breath" (or as long as I breathe? idk I don't remember) wouldn't it be crazy if he actually did that already? Paul was dead for a moment... He took his last breath and when Chani woke him up, he was a whole new person who technically loved her until his death. After he's alive again, you notice the change of personality in the movie! He keeps telling her that same quote right before he chooses the hand of the emperor's daughter, which seems kinda contradictory and made that quote look as a lie. But what if Paul wasn't lying? Bro am I trying too hard to think of an explanation about such a rough and sudden relationship ending? Those scenes hurt me a lot.
He doesn't love the Princess, only married her for political reasons.
There was a scene where Paul was told to use marriage to further his rule and help his path, he knew that marrying the Emperor's daughter was exactly that. So, before doing so he wanted to make sure Chani knew that it was strictly for the better of everyone and not because he wanted to. He was only following the advice he was given.
Paul followed in his father's footsteps and wanted a marriage just for political means. The reason why they didn't show it in the movies was because they wanted to make Channi look weak, I guess? In the book she is this super strong character that recovers from everything(loss of her and Paul's child, being a warrior, supporting Paul), I guess they need to make her more human and make her be jealous on an arranged marriage?
He sees possible futures. He must choose best possible one but that's changing him therefore Chani doesnt love him anymore
@@FireJachChani still loves him but she’s watching him change to becoming a dangerous messiah. He’s going to use her people for his holy war. That’s why she’s so disappointed at the end.
I absolutely LOVED Dune Part 2!!!!!!!!!! It was great!!!! And thanks again Marvelous for the great content!!! You guys always come with the hits!!!!!!
Messiah needs to be a showtime series. Three movies for Children of Dune. Showtime series for the Golden Path.
This as a series would be crazy! That way he could really show more on every character and take his time directing.
Wouldn’t do it justice, give us like 6 movies for the golden path, it needs to be on the big screen
Well it’s not going to be is it
One film for Messiah and two for Children.
Messiah isn't that big of a book, one movie can cover it. If they do children of Dune, that would have to be 2 parts.
6:40 Chuni didnt leave because of the marriage. She left coz of his Ascension as emperor. When Paul first proposed the marriage before the fight, chuni was shocked but didnt leave. She was hurt but understood it was for show, since he literally just told her he'd love her forever. The difference is important, because Chuni leaving Paul for the ascension marks a much bigger deal to the sacrafices they both know hes making. Hes not only giving up something as small as love, but also his life, and the peace of a galaxy.
Just pleeeaaase give us Dune: Messiah !!! The cast was just incredible fr..!
I can't wait to see Timothée Chalamet AND Anya Taylor-Joy (beauty full women btw.) together on screen.. 👀😁👌
In todays movie world movies like this are very hard to come by. Dune 1 &2 are movies so different. With a great story and effects that looks like they used practical effects to get the realism. I was really drawn into the story and my interpretation.
I’m just not a fan of the changes to Chani. I don’t like them clearly setting her up to be some type of solution in the future. Movie is still basically perfect, it’s just nerdy purist things in my soul. The lack of a time jump also irks me sightly but I kinda like the idea of Paul killing the Baron instead
It was the Duke from Gedi Prime who called the landStrad to Dune
I left the theatre thinking they should’ve brought back sting😂 instead of psycho Elvis 😂
I love how you say Chani like Dick Cheney LOL
I put this in a reply, but I might as well comment too..
*My official theory is that we are watching an alternate universe. Where Paul decides to take the water of life much earlier. He does this in order to ultimately save Chani's life down the line. By essentially pissing her off before their love reaches the point of no return, and before she comes to believe in Paul as the Messiah.*
*This way they never have a child together. And she never becomes his concubine. And avoids the impending doom her path would entail, as written in Dune: Messiah.*
*How does this work, exactly? Well, in Part 1 we see Paul having visions of Jamis becoming his best friend, who teaches him the ways of the Freman. This allows Paul to survive in the desert early on. But that path never comes to be. Because he KILLS Jamis upon meeting him in the ceremonial knife fight.*
*So in THIS universe (and believe me, I do not like the oversaturated multiverse trope), he loves Chani so much that he sacrifices their bond to save her from where that fate would lead. And speeds up the timeline a full two years. Taking down the Baron Harkonnen and the Emperor before lady Jessica gives birth.*
*He also has to fight Feyd Rautha two years earlier, before his powers and abilities are fully formed. Before he could "kill with a word". So he takes some extra stabby damage in that fight.*
*Originally I thought of this as a way to not be so pissed about the terrible adaptation of Chani's character. And all her garbage dialogue in the second half of the film. Just so I could enjoy the movie more.*
*But now I think that's actually what's happening here! And the Jamis visions are the proof. And it adds another layer of tragedy to the story, Paul sacrificing his great love story with Chani in order to save her. Which justifies the entire tone of the second half of the film. And why we are exposed to the certainty of the holy war to come. Rather than leaving it ambiguous, like Frank Herbert does in the book.*
*It's NOT an adaptation. It's different path! Yay! That way when we get to part 3, we won't be disappointed by whatever it is. Because it can't be the original Dune: Messiah anymore. So be it!*
This is the aot ending all over again… I like the theory tho
@hyun_0_0_0 never saw attack on titan. But the theory might be real. I may have unlocked the spicy secret sauce!
In part 2, just before he decides to drink the water, he has more visions. He touches the spice upon the sand with his bare hand and calls to Jamis. "Talk to me, Jamis!" Jamis tells him, "He needs to see... as far as he can see! You need to see."
Jamis is the key. The trail of bread crumbs added by the filmmakers. Not from the books. Showing us that Paul can see the world beyond this world. Not just the past and future. But into the splinters of time. The paths both chosen and unchosen. It's not as if he can make choices that would lead to being best friends with Jamis NOW. He's already dead. But he sees him none the less.
It's the same with the visions he's had in the black ceremonial garb. With Chani beside him. Also dressed to match as his beloved concubine. And not as a soldier. That future is as good as gone. The future he gave up. The future in Dune: Messiah.
*bah-buh-BAHHHH!!*
*LISAN AL-GAIIIIIB!!!* 😫😫😫😫
absolutley genius theory. I was waiting for her to kill him..
@@ryanmowdy4014that might happen too, after all the fremman are a means to an end. Another change is the princess's proposal of marriage..I'm all for this change as I believe the influence of game of thrones has had makes this true
@@ryanmowdy4014 most likely she's going to go back to rally the non-believers. "This isn't over." 😠😂
If my theory is correct, DV might not do Messiah at all! He might do a part 3 for the Holy War itself. Where Chani's army acts like a wildcard third wheel between Paul and the great houses. I have a feeling the Reverend Mother will make her french girl, pregnant with Feyd's baby, drink the water of life to give birth to an abomination of her own. As a way of evening out the odds with Jessica and HER powered-up baby!
We might even get powered baby fight! It's all up in the air now... Anything goes in DV's Duniverse!
Fer SURE Stilgar is gonna bust when he jumps in a lake for the first time.
One of the best movies I've watched!
I just wish they would have stayed a bit closer to the books as the ominous dialog between the "captive" Alia, Shaddam the Emperor, The Baron and the Reverend Mother Mohiam with Alia doing most of the talking just as Paul enters and declares who he is, is one of the best parts of that book. And why they didn't have Paul add that his marriage is one of convenience only and he would not lay with her as he loves another, which is kinda how things roll in Dune to be honest.
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Can't wait for Dune 3 when its projected release date to theaters is 2027!
I literally entered the theater to see how they handled Alia. Was deeply dissapointed.
I hope im not the only reader who thinks this was a bad adaptation, even if it was a good movie on its own.
something that shapes Paul's path is the loss of his first son something that was not mentioned that influences the path of the holy war that will be fought
I thought she was already talking to the baby before she drank the poison water.
Naw...I created the best sci-fi epic ever....just haven't finished writing it yet. LOL. kidding. Dune is awesome. I still need to read the books, just like lord of the Rings. tried getting tickets for IMAX here in NYC....but sold out for weeks.
JESSICA WAS AMAZING
No notification on this one yet fyi
So why you showing scenes from Dune 1984???
It is the original and had a heavy influence on Dennis Villeneuve.
Yes , it's the best film ever to if it has a different approach from the books. The artistic choice of keeping Alia in Jessica was so good to then see her litteraly when Paul drinks the water of life. I hope we will see here more in Dune The Messia. I'm a bit sad that Denis Villeneuve won't do the children of dune or the emperor god of dune. Their so much potential
I really hope we get a third movie
the way this guy pronounces things is so funny, “lisan-al-gabe” “chaney” no hate man but they literally pronounce it completely differently in the movie 😂😂
I thought it was 87 billion. ( Conservative estimate)
All good prophecies are self fulfilling.
7:10 the ending part
so, they changed the ending and wrote out Alia? In the book, it's toddler Alia who kills the Baron. that's disappointing.
Yes apparently. No count fenring , no water of death . No navigators. No Jessica telling chani Paul will never bang irulan. They give reyd tje gob babar test . ( I haven't seen it but I have been told ) oh the shorten the timeliness to 6 mouths instead of 3 or 4 years
Totally agree it was too long. Alia wasn't ever born.
Alia remains in Jessica's womb throughout the movie and only serves as a proxy for the audience to understand Jessica's plans. Other changes is that Feyd fought fairly against Paul without any hidden poison barb during the final duel. Gurney (Thanos) killing Rabban (Drax).
@bursegsardaukar rabban is killed off page , in the book. But he was supposed to have been killed inspecting the parameter. By freman. ( but its possible gurney was with the party) although I dont it , he still wanted revenge and wanted to fight feyd himself. ?
85th, 22 March 2024
Of all the plot that they shouldn't have included was the stupid Pocahontas Love Story, but no, they have to include that, but the worst travesty of this movie is suggest that Feyd should be a replacement for Paul in the plan of the Bene Gesserit. Anyone that wrote the script, film this movie and directed this read the books? Two things, one, the Feyd was never in the plan of the Bene Gesserit to create their perfect being, and like Paul, he is a male, that why the Bene Gesserit chastise Jessica for, because she was the key to create the perfect being, but they used the excuse to make peace with the Harkonnen with Jessica possible daughter and Feyd, that was really ridiculous and stupid, they totally break the plot by suggesting that.
The ending completely character assassinates Chani. Instead of accepting and coming to terms with the fact that Paul must marry the princess in order to solidify his empire, she acts like a snooty teenanger.
My official theory is that we are watching an alternate universe. Where Paul decides to take the water of life much earlier. He does this in order to ultimately save Chani's life down the line. By essentially pissing her off before their love reaches the point of no return, and before she comes to believe in Paul as the Messiah.
This way they never have a child together. And she never becomes his concubine. And avoids the impending doom her path would entail, as written in Dune: Messiah.
How does this work, exactly? Well, in Part 1 we see Paul having visions of Jamis becoming his best friend, who teaches him the ways of the Freman. This allows Paul to survive in the desert early on. But that path never comes to be. Because he KILLS Jamis upon meeting him in the ceremonial knife fight.
So in THIS universe (and believe me, I do not like the oversaturated multiverse trope), he loves Chani so much that he sacrifices their bond to save her from where that fate would lead. And speeds up the timeline a full two years. Taking down the Baron Harkonnen and the Emperor before lady Jessica gives birth.
He also has to fight Feyd Rautha two years earlier, before his powers and abilities are fully formed. Before he could "kill with a word". So he takes some extra stabby damage in that fight.
Originally I thought of this as a way to not be so pissed about the terrible adaptation of Chani's character. And all her garbage dialogue in the second half of the film. Just so I could enjoy the movie more.
But now I think that's actually what's happening here! And the Jamis visions are the proof. And it adds another layer of tragedy to the story, Paul sacrificing his great love story with Chani in order to save her. Which justifies the entire tone of the second half of the film. And why we are exposed to the certainty of the holy war to come. Rather than leaving it ambiguous, like Frank Herbert does in the book.
It's NOT an adaptation. It's different path! Yay! That way when we get to part 3, we won't be disappointed by whatever it is. Because it can't be the original Dune: Messiah anymore. So be it!
Bit of a simplistic reading of her character from your end. Chani's whole character revolves around her disliking the whole messiah prophecy aspect of Paul, she is a love interest who keeps Paul grounded. When Paul finally decided to accept the prophecy when chani herself claimed "this is how they enslave us", of course she is upset. It all comes to ahead when she realises Paul is so far gone from the man she loved when he is willing to strategically marry a the emperor's daughter, even when he loves chani. Going with the flow with Paul's holy war goes against her whole character.
She literally said earlier in the movie “I’ll always love you Paul, IF you stay the same” you can’t blame her for leaving him after he turns psychotic and uses her people to start a war with the entire universe. Stop it.
@@Kewfuhe doesnt turn physcotic 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ you misunderstood his character
@@charless.m thanks for focusing on that one part of my overall argument. My point still stands. She fell in love with Paul Atreides, not the Kwisatz Haderach which he later became. It’s idiotic to criticize Chani when she stands up for herself and goes against the power hungry leader he turned into. That’s my point.
Why are you mixing the movie clips
i f i wanted to read the books after I Finished the movie dune part 2 where do i continue?
I hate these AI narrated videos. They never pronounce names properly
Can someone tell me what Feyd’s last words were? I couldn’t tell what he said in theaters
You fought well Atreides.
Man why did you put these disctimg scenes from the og film 😅
Is that fucking Sting?!
Yes
annoying clicky background music
pff dogwater. Pointless changes from the book, so much time wasted on crap not in the book.
Dune copied Starwars:
- I am your father!!
That not possible noooooooooooooooo....
Lisan al gay??? Learn to pronounce lol
Yeah I was so confused, they say it so much in the films lol
That Channi ending was there because they wanted to show Zendaya throwing a hissy fit? I don't understand, until there everything was calculated, even he knew that he needed to marry to forge an alliance. Don't tell me, that he chose not to tell this to her? That he wants to go on his father's foot steps and marry for political reasons only.
It's a horrible movie, I did not feel like I was in the dune universe. it was too much filler, part 2 can easily be edited down to 1 hour and 30 minutes. What few highlights are too few and far between, the ending was very short, zero pacing. Biggest flop, I need a refund after watching this, dune part 2 the book of stilgar.
You are alone
Absolutely missed the mark. I cannot tell you how disappointing this movie was. Not one mention of the space guild who basically ran the universe. When paul drank the water of life nothing is said or pertained to the fact that he was a superhuman. The only thing they were trying to do is set up for part three. Very disappointing to wait this long for a movie thats only done half assed.