This is a pinned comment for any errata. Please feel free to let me know any mistakes I've made. 1. At 15:30 I quoted a source which spoke of 20,000 death sentences being issued at an average of one sentence a day for around 6 years. The source's math is wrong, of course; I think the source made a typo for 60 years. 2. At 20:10 I spoke of this death sentence claim about Benedikt Carpzov being made by a "rival". This was my interpretation of my secondary source, quoted on screen, which said the claim was "an envious note from a certain Philip A. Oldenburger in 1675", a professor of law in Germany and a contemporary of Caprzov. However, looking again at a different secondary source I used which is more detailed, Thorsten Sellin cited in my list of references linked to in the video description, I think the word "critic" would have been a better choice of words. The word "rival' gives the impression of a personal animosity between peers, whereas Oldenburger's claim about Carpzov seems to have been made in the context of a broader criticism of German legal proceedings at the time, and was criticizing Carpzov for the severity of the sentences he called for, rather than expressing envy of him. I am explaining this at length because I think it's a good example of how challenging it can be to interpret secondary sources, and how careful we should be with word choices when citing them, since this can have a significant effect on the interpretation of history we present. As a further note, I observed Sellin argues "Oldenburger stated that Carpzov had "given rise" to upwards of 20,000 capital sentences", due to the severity of the sentences he called for, not that Carpzov had personally issued these death sentences. This confirms the point I made in my video, that it was highly unlikely Carpzov had passed any death sentences in any case, since as a prosecutor rather than a magistrate he did not have that authority. 3. At 42:40 I said "Aristotle" instead of "Archimedes". The context should be clear from the onscreen content, and I said Archimedes shortly after.
Hey, there are types of slavery, I'm assuming you know this by your education background, most Black Americans descended of slavery refer to chattel slavery when talking about slavery. Chattel slavery did not exist in Africa and the closest thing to it prior to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade was the slave soldiers of the Gulf Region just at the rise of Islam. In as much as this man made a lot of mistakes, not seeing the person behind the speech is putting you in absolutist thinking when discrediting him rather than understanding and exposing why it where some of the statements he made came from like with the Iranian propaganda.
@@availanila I am very aware that there are different forms of slavery, and that most black Americans descended from chattel slaves trafficked in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. However I disagree that "chattel slavery did not exist in Africa". That's a very absolute statement about 10,000 years of history covering an entire continent. There were definitely times and places in African history prior to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, when chattel slavery existed; enslaved people were treated as objects.
@@veritasetcaritas but you're quoting the entirety of human history to finger wag at something else (that you're trying to minimise). Every culture everywhere engaged in chattel slavery at some point in human history if that's the metric you're going to be stuck on; but only one that had a global effect felt to this day, was run by globally destructive capitalists and racialized entire races to defend it. And only that one that has affected the world till date and forever changed the *whole world.* Slavery the way it happened was never done before and by far not even by Mansa Musa.
@@availanila you are arguing against something I have never said. Firstly Great House didn' say Mansa Musa never owned chattel slaves, he denied any kind of slavery by Mansa Musa. Secondly I never gave my opinion about what kind of slaves Mansa Musa had. I certainly did not "finger wag" at him or anyone else, nor did I attempt to mimimize chattel slavery or any other kind of slavery. Thirdly I agree the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade was the "only one that had a global effect felt to this day, was run by globally destructive capitalists and racialized entire races to defend it". This is one of the reasons why I dismiss modern arguments for "reparations" based on historic WHITE slavery; the modern descendants of historic WHITE slavery are NOT suffering under the same chronic oppressions which are experienced by the descendant of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.
@@veritasetcaritas see? This is you pretending you didn't disambiguate correctly. You said, even to me, in the 10,000 years of human history there was chattel slavery in Africa (something always done on racist debating to go like "see? They cosigned this atrocity!") What you didn't say, like you did for every point you discredited, is why he thought that and why he'd say that bit rather went out if your way to "chuckle" at the notion of Africans not owning slaves without specifying the kind of slavery he was equating it to.
As an American whose family is from Africa, it’s hard enough to even be exposed to African history outside of Ancient Egypt, and I’d rather misinformation not add to this difficulty.
This is the most true thing that I’ve ever heard. As a British man with Black African family, I find it so hard to get any information on the history, which I desperately want to learn. But if one does look deeper, African history is so interesting that it begs the question as to why these supposedly pro-African history people have to steal and lie instead of doing proper education on this incredible collection of topics
@@ahhno4662What you mean "black" though? Dude, you know where your family came from down to the specific ethnicity. It is like if you see some fair skinned guy in Britain named Fintan O'Neill you can probably guess he is of Irish history. So what, you Khoisan, Igbo or of Sudan? What? Humour me, WHAAAT? WHAT?
@LoneMagpie91 my family are descended from the Ga of Ghana, a group living in the country’s Southeast near Accra, within the modern Greater Accra region. There you go, weird internet stranger.
@@ahhno4662I agree with the Black Africans / Black descendants who must wring their hands over the attempt to steal the history of other people, when their very own is often just as interesting but for some strange reason hardly ever gets studied. For instance: the Nubian kingdoms of Africa held their own against Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and then Byzantines, etc. There must be a plethora of information here to study, and make great factual movies from.
you agreed with this eurocentric guy?? if you believe the eurocentric historian will give you true African history perpecrive then, you must be living in an alternative universe.
@@Pamoja1981 No boo, I live on Earth, where facts are verifiable facts no matter who tells them, and where people of every skin color make up fanciful mythologies about how special they are. Put the mythology down and join the real world.
@kahlilbt what methodology are you talking about?? it is well known that Eurocentric and fraudulent Egyptologist have distorted and lied about African history and contributions of African people in the world history. keep living in that bubble, but the truth is being unearth in this 21st century
I once had a great interaction with Great House; he made a post claiming that all history is clearly falsified, because obviously stone age people could not hunt mammoths with spears. When he was challenged on this by various people based on the unambiguous archaeological evidence of mammoth hunting, he doubled down and claimed not only that humans never hunted mammoths, but that even today there is no evidence of humans ever at any point in time hunting and eating elephants. I responded to that argument with a video from the 1970s of Central African Hunter-Gatherers hunting and killing an elephant with spears, and then butchering it to eat. He responded by saying something along the lines of "Oh yeah, steel spears vs. sharpened sticks, you're so clever," completely shifting the goalpost when his "humans today don't eat hunt and elephants" argument was debunked. On a different note, AAAAY MY BOI HIDDEN HISTORY BEING RECOMMENDED IN THE DESCRIPTION, YEEEEEEEAH BOI
Oh yeah, that's why he has that in his Twitter profile now. This is one of the reasons why I think he's a grifter. He really does not care what he is saying, he just wants to troll for attention.
I think i kinda remember the conversation you are talking about, that whole fiasco with the mammoths is probably the funniest drama i ever seen on twitter, i have never seen someone being so unambiguously wrong about something.
The most endearing thing about this is that someone was curious and dedicated enough to write a “definitive” paper on the Ancient Roman toilet accessories.
Let's remember (or watch for the first time) the scene from Sleeper where scientists are giving their idea of what a flush toilet is. Everyday things and practices could really do with better documentation for future historians. 😊
Too many nations and ethnicities have had their history unfairly injected with ethno-nationalist rhetoric, So as a black man I am very appreciative of all those who help keep the space free of that kind of prejudice. Our differences make us special but our similarities, being _human_ , is what makes us important.
Normies on twitter: screenshot or it didn’t happen Historians on Twitter: primary texts, secondary texts, and extensive critical texts or it didn’t happen
He is by no means the worst. Not only are there many more who are even crazier, but their views on race make the little Austrian corporal look like a Sunday School teacher.
"Imagine there’s no countries It isn’t hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace (...)" - the Cyrus cylinder. Source: trust me bro
Afrocentrism is one hell of a rabbit hole to fall into, I had my afrocentric phase in my late teens despite being very knowledgeable in serious history, I repeated things that I didn't find very convincing but just felt good. Unfortunately, most afrocentrists lack the historical, geographical and cultural awareness to see through the bullshit and are just coping with an inferiority complex so they don't even wanna learn the most basic facts that expose some of their hilarious beliefs for what they are. Now what's truly disturbing is that parts of Hollywood and academia are giving in to their delusions and now blackwash some historical figures and all legitimate criticism is getting called self-hate if you're black, or racism if you aren't. But the damage that's been done will be hard to correct, as with "The Woman King" that you brilliantly debunked last year, many blatant afrocentrist falsehoods and misunderstandings are now accepted as uncontroversial facts in black circles even by people that aren't activists nor do systematically distrust mainstream scholarship. The sad part with Afrocentrism is that this obsession with claiming Ancient Egypt as "ours" still leaves the study of West African history and cultures in a state of utter neglect and in fact, afrocentrists absolutely despise other African cultures, they're only worth mentioning if they can pretend that there is a link between Ancient Egypt and a given traditional practice but the disdain for and ignorance of what is Africa's real history, cultures and complexity is strong.
It's a real shame because _actual_ African history is really interesting. As a non-African descendant (that I know of, or not recently anyway) I find African history fascinating and it's true it's accomplishments are largely unadressed in mainstream education and pop-culture. We are missing a lot by not making focus on that and instead all the focus seems on trying to black-wash other non-black, well know, "cool" cultures; like "DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS A BLACK JAPANESE EMPEROR??" And the evidence is like a black japanese mask or something.
Afrocentrism literal definition is “a focus on or influence by Africa or cultures of African origin; Afrocentric ideas, attitudes, or emphasis.” Ancient Egypt is African as it’s in Africa.
@@Ma1q444 Which is meaningless, Ok it appears on the map that Egypt is on a landmass that we now call Africa, but in terms of human and cultural geography it's in the Middle Eastern or Mediterranean world. And obviously there are no meaningful cultural ties between Ancient Egypt and modern West Africans and the transatlantic diaspora. It seems like y'all aren't aware of Africa's size and human geography, there are multiple subregions of Africa with largely separate histories and cultural development, similar to Asia. I mean it's like we had Siberians pretending to have historical and cultural affinity with Sumerians because both Siberia and Mesopotamia are in "Asia", and built a whole Asianocentrist/Panasianist ideology or identity based on just sharing a the same landmass. Here you see how dumb that sounds, but of course we know the silly game you play: Egypt is in "Africa" => "Africa" is "Black" => Egypt is black. And now you feel so smart. I'm not arguing more because I know it's more about ego than truth, I've been an Afrocentrist and a Panafricanist, I'm no longer one and that makes me appreciate my West African heritage even more.
@@peteferguson518 Egypt borders Sudan, Sudan and you are acting like Egypt is across the continent. Looking at the ancient hieroglyphics it is clear he Egyptians depicted themselves as black African with those features. Strange you try to say Egypt is in the “middle eastern or Mediterranean world” ancient Egypt began around 3100 BC. Yet like many things in the world it has been whitewashed, Egypt was colonized by the Arabs and the Greeks and Roman’s so they tell the history yet when you look at what the actual ancient Egyptians said they called there land “Kemet” which means “black land”. It’s always been strange to me why the current inhabitants of Egypt are thought to be the originals. Nobody thinks that the white Australians are native nobody thinks the white Americans are natives, because the colonization happened in modern times. But in Egypts case the fall of Egypt happened in ancient times and is less known about compared to colonization of the America’s and such. Calling someone an afrocentrist because they believe Egypt was started by black Africans is a misuse of the word.
@@Ma1q444 Dude, again I have been an Afrocentrist, I know y'all's talking points, I know why they wrong and deep down you know as well. If you're genuinely interested in either Egypt or Subsaharan cultures there are more productive things to do than embarrassing yourself with your "Black kangz" nonsense, you could actually learn about their societies, histories, philosophies, customs, economic systems and the diversity and complexity of them just for the sake of it and not to prove something to yourself or others. Because see, the vast majority of non-black people accepts that pre-colonial Subsaharan Africa was not stuck in the stone age like some white supremacists have pretended in colonial times, most non-black people also do not believe that ancient Egyptians were Swedes and that there weren't "black" passing people in ancient Egypt, including some in positions of power. Most people do not believe the most absurd white supremacist theories on the ancient world and similarly they don't believe the black supremacist ones that would have you believe that ancient Egypt was demographically undistinguishable from the Congo or that modern Subsaharan cultures are perpetuating egyptian traditions. That's just false and embarrassing, please stop and get genuinely interested in what you're talking about.
I feel like the whole Newton thing happens a lot in science. You'll have a mathematician from the classical period mention a thought experiment about not being able to predict the future and then people will say that he invented quantum mechanics. There was a lot of science done before the Enlightenment but I can't imagine that we would have reached the same point if we didn't have standardized algebra.
I became aware of him because people were retweeting his tweet claiming that white people never made any musical instruments and he was claiming that all instruments were created outside of europe and that europe only got instruments from other continents. He wanted to make it seem as if white people are genetically inferior and have never made good music. He was also very aggressive towards anyone disagreeing with him. So I knew he was being dishonest.
He has also been corrected by a couple of actual historians or other academics and he either ignores them or insults them. I'm totally certain he's playing to his audience and doesn't really believe this stuff himself, which makes him even more reprehensible in my eyes.
he responded to a racist and used the claims of the racist to answer. unfortunately, no one proved him wrong. for the music they took a bone with holes from a neanderthal.
Something I noticed this year is when Id be on Instagram and posts would pop up on my recommend which would be stuff like people of Latino or Native American descent talking about their cultures and histories. Nothing was really off in their posts but the comment sections were often times filled with I guess hoteps who would say stuff like black people were the "real native Americans" and used Afro Latinos as evidence of this. Essentially denying that they were the descendants of enslaved people brought over by the Europeans but instead had always been present in the Americas and retroactively were trying to take ownership of Native American tribal identities. Like I didn't know this line of thought was even a thing
Those hoteps are almost completely found online. They exist almost exclusively on the internet. Outside their online spaces they're basically invisible and they're not taken seriously. That's why they seem outsized online in proportion to their real life presence, with few exceptions.
What’s most fascinating to me about that narrative is that there’s three conflicting versions of it: 1) African Americans are the real Native Americans 2) black people are the real Jewish people 3) Moorish citizens, a subset of sovereign citizens who believe that America has actually been Morocco this whole time
@Gloomdrake whats really insidious to me is how those people are doing the same thing as what white supremacists do by trying to downplay, deny, or highjack other people'a histories and cultures
Nothing better than debbunking Afrocentrists for the new year. Let's hope we get to see the next debunking of TIK "History" soon as well! Merry Xmas and a Happy New year! 👋🏼
@@Ma1q444 I mainly do Eurocentrists. I have two videos on how the black pygmy myth has been weaponized in Australia and New Zealand to disenfranchise indigenous people, a video discrediting the idea that Archimedes invented calculus and wrote a mathematical proof which would have changed human history, a video on nine famous black European swordsmen during a time when people thought they were just slaves, a video discrediting every claim that European settlers were NOT responsible for a smallpox outbreak in Australia in 1789, a video on Cevin Soling who arrived in Vanuatu claiming he was the white savior foretold by a religious cult, and how the US Army's claim that "Havana Syndrome" is a real medical condition is just fake. Plus others. I usually avoid the Afrocentrists, and in this case I'm only focusing on what they say about Europe, not Africa.
@@veritasetcaritasits pretty admirable that you seem to have a grasp that it is unnecessary, mostly, to debunk afrocentrists. It has pretty much no traction or relevance except among a few people AND it brings out so much racism.
It looks like "Great House" needs to get his house in order! "Propaganda" sites such as his are very damaging IMO. Sadly, they've become ubiquitous. I salute the work you put into these critiques! They're very educational, particularly in terms of the proper methodology used to research history. Thanks!
I'm under the impression that much of what I see posted on Twitter is nonsense. I get quite a bit of bizarre stuff suggested to me from accounts I don't even follow.
@@veritasetcaritas On Twitter and Facebook, I deleted all of my old interactions with people and just post new video links, without allowing anyone to comment. I only want to interact privately with friends on Facebook. As far as my CZcams channel is concerned, I only want to engage with people in the comments for the videos, as I am doing here. I found it to be a bit much to also interact on other social media platforms. I'd rather just have one place, the comments sections for my videos on CZcams to discuss my videos as well as others' videos.
Regarding the Archimedeans, I was going to cite this video on one of the YT history channels that idealized the Persians, but decided I didn't want the heartburn. Yes, it would be lovely to believe that Cyrus' empire was such an egalitarian place, but that's not how Empires work, unfortunately.
Very nuanced and well organized video. Wasn't currently paying attention to Afrocentrism until lately when the algorithm recommended a video from the channel 'Shakka Ahmose', a guy seemingly dressed in Ancient Egyptian clothing ranting on how Modern Egyptians were Arab Na*is who had replaced the indigenous dark-skinned population.
I really appreciate you showing your proof of how you researched and verified sources, and how you didn't stop at just finding the sources but verifying those in turn and why you found the source suspect. (you've also given me some new reading material for my worldbuilding, which is always something I love to take away when I check out a video!)
Thank you! As I said in the video, this could have been a lot shorter and taken a lot less effort, but instead of a basic dunking video I really wanted to use this as a showcase for good research and show my "working out". In the coming year I plan to make more videos demonstrating good research methodology, and how to fact check claims and sources.
Thank you! I was so nervous about that part, because math and physics are so far from my area of knowledge that I was sure I was going to mess it up with some wrong terminology or inaccurately described history.
@@veritasetcaritas I'm no scholar so take my comments with a grain of salt but I didn't notice anything wrong. So Good job! Out of curiosity, I just took a quick glance of the wikipedia page for integration and it does mention al-Haytham and how he came up with a formula to calculate the sum of fourth powers and used this to calculate what we would call the integral of the function today, so in that sense he was doing a little bit of "calculus" but to compare that to the magnitude of the work done by Newton and Leibniz, e.g. calculating integrals for arbitrary functions, calculating and defining derivatives, showing differentiation and integration are in fact inverse operations. That's all Newton and Leibniz. To imply that Haytham was doing all of that 500 years prior is at best completely ignorant and at worst totally dishonest. It's always the loudest and belligerent voices on twitter that are so incredibly wrong about whatever they scream about.
@@veritasetcaritas I want to jump on this to say that I for one would really enjoy even an entire video focused on methodology in academic study in history.
Am I the only one who immediately thought of "I wash myself with a rag on a stick" from the Simpsons? And I was just pointing out to someone that a pubmed source was still under review. Keep making videos, man.
Thank you, I plan to explain the differences between as pre-prints, opinion pieces, test proposals, and other forms of academic documentation in future videos.
or is it closer to modern arab egyptians pretending that ancient egyptian history is comes from their ancestors or wight americans claiming to be french-canadian
I'm curious about the psychology behind people like this. Did they always believe these things, but feel emboldened by the online support? Or is it a cynical realization that peddling a pleasing, controversial narrative gets more attention than by comparison dry history, and chasing channel growth?
In this case I think he is just grifting. This stuff he's coming out with really has nothing to do with African history, so there's no need to do this to bolster Africa. Additionally I have seen him corrected by academics on Twitter and he just ignores them or calls them names and then ignores them.
@veritasetcarritas you should make a video debunking all those twitter pages spreading bizarre lies like " Black Africans couldn't build double story structures", "they had no plumbing systems", "they were still in the stone age" maybe just maybe we wouldnt need accounts like Great House dishing back the same energy. Keep crying
I only did Classics as an elective. So, did I learn anything? I believed the xylospongium thing (even though it was never taught in class), so that's a point off. I did, however, recognise that you were talking about the Frogs just from the names 'Dionysus' and 'Xanthias', so that's a point in my favour. Now I gotta figure out a way to get off the mark. Great stuff as always, I'll let you know if I find anything when I check your work. ;)
The part that amused me was the article that went "They may not be as well defined as the US Bill or Rights or the Magna Carta-" the misinformation about that last text's intent and purpose always makes me roll my eyes, and comparing any of these documents really feels like kiwis and zucchinis.
The most generous way I could thread these texts together is that they represent a gradual extension of civic rights and accountability from kings to first the noble barons and then (white male landowning) upper classes. But Cyrus still doesn't fit in that and the Magna Carta was one document, promptly nullified by the pope - one that came before the age of absolute monarchy all over Europe so it wasn't so much a precursor of things to come as much as an odd detour in the history of European monarchy.
I find the calm, academic manner in which you present your thoughts refreshing. God knows I would not be able to suppress my rage when confronted with dishonest quacks of this sort. Hat off. Have a sub. Rock on.
Theres some excellent actual African History Channels out there ........ Stuff like this makes me weep for actual history .......... Like why even bother with this ? The Nubians existed and where most definitely African unless I'm gravely mistaken like why not talk about that ?
@@veritasetcaritas yeh well unfortunately that's a thing , like Ancient Egypt has to be up there with Atlantis with the conspiracy theories ......... And it's just sad , like here is this fantastic ancient civilization that gave us some of GOAT human monuments and it's reduced to cookoo land , it's just sad
howd that one commenter get the idea that 20,000 is 1 sentence a day for 6 years. That’s roughly 2,000. itd be more like one sentence a day for 55 years 😅
i could not imagine posting things to the internet without fully researching what i say, especially if i claimed to know what i was talking about. i don't even post assertions of fact in the tags on tumblr without googling it first.
It’s genuinely a shame people would rather listen to these clowns instead of African academics who do the work and have personal experience with the subjects. Great house just makes their work look like a joke or worse, inaccurate because they can consider African history with nuance.
What really stands out to me is that since he has made this weird pivot to false claims about European history, he's spending most of his time on topics OTHER than African history. This is one of the reasons why I think he's a grifter. He's not helping to support African history at all.
@@veritasetcaritas exactly. It almost like he feels like he needs to tear European history down to make African history seem superior. Which is very insulting to African history and just not a very productive view of history at all. Definitely grifter, his bio now says “prehistoric mammoth hunter denier” or something like that. He’s a dipshit’s historian and he is very proud of that
The idea that the "spounge on a stick" where used to clean the latrine is pretty much a copy of what we use a similar looking modern tool for. That still doesn't mean that it was used for this purpose.
Yes. That doesn't mean that's what it was used for, but we have no evidence it was used for anything else, and we have clear evidence, including primary sources and archaeological sources, showing us people used other items to clean themselves.
I fell for the sponge on a stick thing until just now. Now that i think about it it's so much more logical that it was used for the latrine, we literally still use sponges/brushes on sticks to clean our toilets today
45:30 Jesus Christ. I can't imagine doing math by writing out everything you're doing in a sentence. Imagine doing that in, I dunno, topology. I'm not even a math guy, but I can instinctually feel the arm cramps.
I find it incredible that a system like this existed until the sixteenth century. It seems phenomenally time consuming and laborious, you'd think someone at some much earlier point would have said "This is a joke, we need to do this more efficiently".
Your discussions with this guy reminds me of an waste of time argument I had with a “Black Hebrew Israelite” whose sources amounted to assertions made by random Facebook users.
It's frustrating that he knows where to find academic commentary, but doesn't invest the effort into assessing and validating it, he just waves around bits and pieces of stuff he has discovered like they're magic talismans. This is not proper research.
He probably doesn’t read the commentary he’s citing. If Great House is anything like the fellow I argued with, he is likely getting his info from social media posts from elsewhere on the Internet- perhaps even copy-pasting it verbatim. These behaviours (like repeating the same irrelevant “answers” to legitimate questions) are a textbook behaviour of the uninformed revisionist
Archimedes developed a method of performing integrals by making an imaginary balance beam and coming up with ways of balancing two sets of objects against each other. It's how he got the forumla for the volume of a sphere. You could at a stretch say he 'invented a form of integral calculus' if you wanted and not be entirely wrong.
I expect him to be just as much of an “expert” of history as redeemed zoomer is an “expert” is theology. Bozo is using wojack memes to form an edgy internet identity, it’s pretty obvious these people are fascist hacks.
This is a very a academic and well-made video. It's more academic than I'm used to, but I'll try a few more videos and see if I can get into it. I also learned my Latin teacher was mistaken with his sponge claims, so thanks for that lol
Thank you! Don't worry, I used to believe the "sponge on a stick" thing too. It's fascinating how little sense it makes once you start thinking about it practically, even before we consider the lack of evidence for it.
Admirable restraint not going for cheeky puns or dad-jokes, re sponges. Esp considering the shit-tier quality of GH's "research" as shown. (Excellent video; most of us ought to read more critically, including source eval.)
Thank you! I aim to maintain a certain tone of decorum, and I dislike other videos which try to turn every subject into a series of gags just to try and maintain viewer engagement.
Very happy I found your channel, i appreciate what you do and i know you act like you don’t have much imagery but i think you do absolutely enough and the audio is great so its largely unnecessary.
Thank you! I would still like to improve my imagery in the future, but right now I'm just doing what I can with the skills and time I have available. Additionally I don't want so much imagery ir distracts from the citations I place on screen, since that would defeat the purpose of having them there.
As someone in a mixed family these topics have been around me my whole life. It always makes me at least sad and at most angry. Not as bad as black hebrew israelites or the nation of islam tho!!
41:00: I realize that sounds repetitive but with a BS in math I got what they meant. 'Geometry' by itself in a mathematical context usually means Euclidean geometry, of which analytic geometry is an expansion using algebra (put overly simply). While you could rephrase that to remove the repetition of 'geometry' it would be more precised to replace the unqualified geometry with 'Euclidean geometry' or something like that. Whether the history cited here is accurate is outside my wheelhouse.
Thanks for the comment, I see that makes perfect sense. I might not have been clear. I wasn't referring to the repetition of the word "geometry", but this repetition: * ANALYTIC GEOMETRY after LINKING ALGEBRA to GEOMETRY * ANALYTICAL GEOMETRY by establishing LINKAGE between ALGEBRA and GEOMETRY It's the repetition of the content in these two phrases, which are synonymous, to which I was referring.
@@veritasetcaritas Oh, lol, I totally missed that. On these sorts of things I often skip around when someone is reading text on screen, which is probably why I missed what was actually being referred to.
@@professorhaystacks6606 it's actually easy to miss even when you're reading the text. I skipped that line the first time I read it, because I thought I had already read the sentence.
@@veritasetcaritas I skipped over it in reading too, but because of skipping around in that part of the video I misunderstood what you were actually referring to.
I am thinking of doing one on him, yes. His views are so extreme that even other members of the "alternative archaeology" community keep their distance from him.
@@veritasetcaritas I agree, he's a complete nutcase, and their are people that actually believe his theories. Love the channel by the way👍 keep up the work.
Great House is definitely taking advantage of people's nebulous understanding of calculus and our habit of attributing whole discoveries to one person. Newton and Leibniz did not develop calculus in a vacuum. By the time they were on the scene derivatives were already a common topic for mathematicians, Isaac Newton's own mentor Isaac Barrows had published a very important generalized proof of the relationship between functions and their derivatives. No scholar, mathematician or physicists does it all on their own. There's always a whole ecosystem that allows their genius to blossom. This is completely unrelated to this video and topic but Great Man bs in science annoys me so much that I have to recommend youtuber's acollierastro's video on The Concept of Mass. It's a really good breakdown of the history of the theory of relativity and exactly what makes Einstein's contributions so important. czcams.com/video/6HlCfwEduqA/video.html
Arguably the fact that Newton and Liebniz came up with Calculus at a very similar timeframe points to the idea that given the field of mathematics at the time the develop of Calculus was inevitable, if it wasn't Newton or Liebniz someone else would've taken the jump and come up with the subfield, they just happened to be the people who made the jump first.
@@lucyla9947 yes, it seems to me as a layman that Cartesian algebra was the key element, and that once that had been devised then the calculus itself was more or less inevitable. But I'm still in awe of the minds of Newton and Leibniz given how much work they did independently.
Found this video randomly Low key very funny Vertas was so annoyed by this great house guy, he made a rather calm, polite even, rebuttal video with examples of how to cite and check sources. A video that also calmly and constantly reaffirms how important it is to cite and check sources.
Can you review some good youtube channels please . World of Antiquity is a personal favorite of mine and is the Fall of Civilizations podcast as epic as i think it is ?
After watching most of the video I'd have to say the answer to the question must surely be no. Using sources at all that don't originate online already elevates them above a lot of people, surely, however annoying the deficiencies must be to a specialist in the field. I'm guessing the majority of the casual "research based" youtube channels I watch on various topics wouldn't fare any better at this level.
I think deliberate misuse of academic sources is worse than someone just being ignorant. I think GH is a grifter who deliberately makes inflammatory content and willfully misrepresent his sources for his agenda. It discredits the academic process and makes scholarship unreliable. Along the way, he discredits those Afrocentrists who are out there trying to do good African history. So I think he's much worse than the average Afrocentrist.
Modern academia is absolutely amazing. This sounds like a joke, but I am serious that like you have someone that something they will go down in history for having made what is just being the definitive work on Roman Toilet Paper.
Tbh ur wasting ur time. The person behind that sccount probably works at Walgreens never been to college and is probably just spitting out info they get from even more absurd accounts or sources.
@@anika_h Eurocentrism is always bad. There is no good Eurocentrism. That's why I have several videos arguing against Eurocentric historical narratives.
I haven't found any hard evidence for this. I have seen it claimed, but I have seen other scholars saying it is uncertain due to lack of evidene. I believe one reason for this is confusion over the role of Muslim shcolars in the translation process; they were involved, but typically as patrons, supervisors, or editors of the resulting Arabic text. Checking the lists of translators given by Ibn Nadim and Ibn Abi Usaybiah, cross-rerferenced with other sources, translation from the Greek source texts was overwhelmingly performed by Christians. * "Out of the fourty-four names of translators from foreign into Arabic language in IN's list, twenty-eight (64%) are Christians, two are Sabians, one is a Jew, none are Muslims, and thirteen (29.5%) are unknown. This study supports Rosenthal's assertion that almost all translators from Greek and Syriac into Arabic were Christians belonging to various churches. Born Muslims, according to Rosenthal, "acted only as patrons who ordered, and paid for, translations done by more or less professional translators and in some instances even provided translators with regular salaries for their services.", Mohammad Hannan Hassan, “Where Were the Jews in the Development of Sciences in Medieval Islam? A Quantitative Analysis of Two Medieval Muslim Biographical Notices,” Hebrew Union College Annual 81 (2010): 113-114 When they were involved, Muslim scholars such as Al-Khwarizmi typically contributed to theArabic text after it had been translated. They did not do the translation from Greek themselves.
@@jujharsingh5461 yes they are properly called Hindu numerals. In fact the Arabs themselves called them Hindu numerals. I have mentioned this in another video. But we do know the Arab and Persian scholars of the Islamic Golden Age had access to some Indian mathematics and possibly astronomy.
Mansa Musa was hated y his own ppl who they consider the reason why the Mali empire collapsed after him with his son who inherited a spent treasury after his dad did the Big Chief thing on his haji -
Mali didnt have salt mines. Salt came from saharan salt mines which were controlled by the Berbers. Mali produced gold and exchanged it at great cost for salt.
In the time of Musa, the Taghaza salt mines were controlled by Mali. "Three of the most important commodities along these routes - and under Malian control - were salt, gold, and the kola nut: salt was mined in the north, at Taghaza, and was carried in the form of large tablets on the back of camels across the desert; gold was mined in abundance in the south, at Bambuk, then the source of approximately half the world’s gold supply; the kola grew in the nearby forests of Akan. Of the three, salt and gold were the most significant (and best remembered). Their allure had catalysed the development of the empire itself: Malian authority was established through the migration of the Malinke (also called the Mandinka), who moved west in search of salt and gold.", Charlie Harris, "Mansa Musa I of Mali: Gold, Salt, and Storytelling in Medieval West Africa", Global History of Capitalism Project, Case Study #16 (April 2020): 3.
1.) Great House is not an Afrocentric you are calling him that unfoundedly. Pls define what Afrocentrism is next time if u want to make such a claim. Just because a person uplifts black history - given the lies told about it & then proceeds to show the humble origins of white history does not make them an afrocentrist. 2.) The first & last part about Persia & mathematics are obviously just sourcing errors & valid critiques u are addressing not necessarily an accurate reflection of his entire page where most of his sources & historical claims are valid, far more simplistic & expose the arrogance & fraud of Eurocentric scholarship. 3.) 22:14 ur claiming that in Ghana they have statues of “famous”black Afrikans who sold slaves ??! That is not true & I may be so bold as to even say that you 100% just outright lied to ur audience to inflate a narrative about black Africans being previously immoral slave traders (which is false & profoundly deceptive). Not to mention this nonsense that “some” African Americans think no Africans played a role in the slave trade when numerous African American or African scholars have cited this from Walter Rodney, chancellor Williams to Thomas Sowell etc etc even activists like Malcom x, Louis Farrakhan & numerous black nationalists have spoken on the African role (tho minuscule & nuanced given Afrika is a large CONTINENT) in the enslavement, dehumanisation & denationalisation of black Americans.
1. I give an example of what Afrocentrism means in a screenshot in the first few seconds of the video. GreatHouse does not upift black history, and even if he did I would not call him an Afrocentrist for that reason, nor would I call him an Afrocentrist for simply showed "the humble origins of white history". 2. The problem is that GreatHouse's tweets frequently have such sourcing errors. He has been called out for his errors repeatedly by historians and other subject knowledge specialists, who he typically ignores. 3. I didn't say anything about Ghana having statues of "“famous” black Afrikans who sold slaves". Please don't create false quotations of statements I never made. I didn't even hint at any "narrative about black Africans being previously immoral slave traders". "Not to mention this nonsense that African Americans think no Africans played a role in the slave trade " Again, I didn't say that. I said this. * "It seems that SOME members of the African diaspora, especially African-Americans, are very quick to claim slavery did not exist in Africa or was only introduced there by Europeans" The movie The Woman King is an example of this tendency.
There is no such thing as an opposite of Afrocentrism. Eurocentrism refers to an analysis of history which prioritizes and centers European history and culture to the exclusion of others. Afrocentrism is a movement attempting to correct false representations of African history and cultures. It is a legitimate area of academic study, and there are many well respected Afrocentrist scholars.
I am not upset. I simply demonstrated he cites sources he hasn’t validated, doesn’t know how to assess sources for accuracy, doesn’t understand how to read sources, doesn't know how to do proper research, and even cites sources which clearly don’t support any of his own statements. I notice you haven't responded to the content of the video.
@@veritasetcaritas he does provide the source. You people just don't look it up . How can you so called " debunk" him when you have no knowledge of the info yourselves?? That's not very scholarly 😩 for 10 + yrs he's provided the tools but y'all insist he doesn't know what he's talking about?! Hmmm Gotcha 😂
@@serwaa4649 you clearly haven't watched the video. I didn't say he didn't provide the source. I looked up every one of the sources he used in the tweets I quoted I notice you haven't responded to the content of the video. I demonstrated he cites sources he hasn’t validated, doesn’t know how to assess sources for accuracy, doesn’t understand how to read sources, doesn't know how to do proper research, and even cites sources which clearly don’t support any of his own statements.
@@veritasetcaritas there are sites that supports his tweets . Sites, books and thesis written by professors. Just because you don't agree with it or feel like it's enough " evidence " doesn't mean it's not true. Your responses are emotional because you can't prove him wrong. You post half truth and say " this is what really happened " 😩 You're just bothered because he calls y'all out on your so called " white history " BS
@@serwaa4649 I really recommend you watch the video. It's obvious someone debunking your favorite peddler of misinfo is making you upset which is understandable, but try to keep an open mind and see that you're being duped.
Have you ever been to Egypt? The actual living day to areas temples, oldest hieroglyphics, first Dynasties are all from Nubia. Luxor to Sudan is Kemet Ezekiel 29:13-15 described thousands of years ago 😂 Circumcision yes circumcision of Genesis given to AbraHAM is African origin as is Afrasian Afroasiatic language origin Chad/Niger 9000 years ago which encompasses Hebrew Aramaic Arabic Cushitic and many more. 15,000 years of shown history, linguistics from 9,000 year origins in Niger/Chad oldest remains, diversity from corner to corner on the planet and you believe a troglodytes perspective whose origin was in the bronze age less than 5000 years ago? 🤷🏾♂️ Definitely American Europeans really don’t have a secular history without Africans directly or indirectly.
Afroasiatic didnt come from niger or the congo but from either northeastern africa or the levant , proto Afroasiatic was spoken and spread by people with a primarily western eurasian ancestry pool(most likey natufians or a closely related group) , and even today afroasiatic languages (which include languages like hebrew,arabic,maltese,amharic,coptic,etc) are spoken mostly by people with a primarily western eurasian ancestry pool . Actually the numerous expansions of people from central and western africa has been to the detriment of afroasiatic speakers .
@@AMR_k400 Linguists believe the ancestor of Afro-Asiatic languages, the protolanguage called Proto-Afro-Asiatic, was spoken somewhere between 18,000 and 8,000 BCE. There is currently not a consensus on what the protolanguage for this group would have been, though many of the families do have protolanguages. Current estimates believe that the Egyptian and Chadic language families were the first to diverge from the protolanguage, some time prior to 8000 BCE, followed by Omotic in 8000 BCE and Cushitic before 7000 BCE. The last two groups to diverge were likely the Semitic group and the Berber group, both sometime between 6000-5000 BCE. Again Current estimates believe that the Egyptian and Chadic language families were the first to diverge from the protolanguage, some time prior to 8000 BCE, followed by Omotic in 8000 BCE and Cushitic before 7000 BCE. The Chadic group is the largest of the Afro-Asiatic family, comprised of over 200 languages. It is divided into at least three or four groups, typically with further subdivisions. They are spoken in Northern Nigeria, Northern Cameroon, Niger, and the Republic of Chad. Maybe focus on Bronze Age modern Europeans🤔 Take your Levant myths elsewhere. They were always in Africa for a reason. Circumcised for a reason . Prognathism and African cultural continuity for a reason.✅
Man got really salty over a Twitter argument and made an hour-long video about it lol. Look, I'm not saying you shouldn't have made this video, it clearly and thoroughly debunks ahistorical silliness, but it is a little funny lol
Have you ever been to Egypt? The actual living day to areas temples, oldest hieroglyphics, first Dynasties are all from Nubia. Luxor to Sudan is Kemet Ezekiel 29:13-15 described thousands of years ago 😂 Circumcision yes circumcision of Genesis given to AbraHAM is African origin as is Afrasian Afroasiatic language origin Chad/Niger 9000 years ago which encompasses Hebrew Aramaic Arabic Cushitic and many more. 15,000 years of shown history, linguistics from 9,000 year origins in Niger/Chad oldest remains, diversity from corner to corner on the planet and you believe a troglodytes perspective whose origin was in the bronze age less than 5000 years ago? 🤷🏾♂️ Definitely American Europeans really don’t have a secular history without Africans directly or indirectly.😂
@@Duragizer8775 Because BC/AD is a long standing convention. Also, BCE and CE mean the SAME THING. It's just using the same date and making up expressions like "Common Era" to avoid mentioning Jesus. Look, I know it's not the actual date. I'm atheist, anti-clerical and anti-theist. But changing the name of a century-old convention seems fairly void of purpose, since we're still basing year 0 around some guy's calculation of JC's birth. And then you create confusion between people by multiplying acronyms which all use the same point of reference. I think other timekeeping methods are interesting, don't get me wrong: if you're studying Arabic history, I imagine it would make sense to use the Islamic calendar. In other words, it's cringe in the same way it's cringe for an adult to use "gosh darn it" unironically: we know what you mean, you're not remedying an actual problem, just swear like a normal person.
@@tiziocaio2631 ...so if long-standing conventions win, we shouldn't be using the Gregorian calendar (it only went into effect in October 1582), right? We should be using the Julian one, created in 46 BC/BCE, and in use for over 1,600 years to the Gregorian's paltry 441 years, and just deal with the equinox drifting thing with leap days like the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD/CE fixed it, right?
@@neoqwerty No. Read my post again. I object to the change here because it is not a change to the dating system, just a new name for the same thing. You're talking about different time-keeping, not nomenclature. Your example is wrong. You're wrong.
Overall excellent, with some blind spots. You'll usually find other academics picking up on any serious issues he has. Remember he's primarily a textual critic rather than a historian, so he tends to be very good on textual criticism and less competent at history. This is normal for any specialist stepping outside their area of expertise.
This is a pinned comment for any errata. Please feel free to let me know any mistakes I've made.
1. At 15:30 I quoted a source which spoke of 20,000 death sentences being issued at an average of one sentence a day for around 6 years. The source's math is wrong, of course; I think the source made a typo for 60 years.
2. At 20:10 I spoke of this death sentence claim about Benedikt Carpzov being made by a "rival". This was my interpretation of my secondary source, quoted on screen, which said the claim was "an envious note from a certain Philip A. Oldenburger in 1675", a professor of law in Germany and a contemporary of Caprzov.
However, looking again at a different secondary source I used which is more detailed, Thorsten Sellin cited in my list of references linked to in the video description, I think the word "critic" would have been a better choice of words. The word "rival' gives the impression of a personal animosity between peers, whereas Oldenburger's claim about Carpzov seems to have been made in the context of a broader criticism of German legal proceedings at the time, and was criticizing Carpzov for the severity of the sentences he called for, rather than expressing envy of him.
I am explaining this at length because I think it's a good example of how challenging it can be to interpret secondary sources, and how careful we should be with word choices when citing them, since this can have a significant effect on the interpretation of history we present. As a further note, I observed Sellin argues "Oldenburger stated that Carpzov had "given rise" to upwards of 20,000 capital sentences", due to the severity of the sentences he called for, not that Carpzov had personally issued these death sentences. This confirms the point I made in my video, that it was highly unlikely Carpzov had passed any death sentences in any case, since as a prosecutor rather than a magistrate he did not have that authority.
3. At 42:40 I said "Aristotle" instead of "Archimedes". The context should be clear from the onscreen content, and I said Archimedes shortly after.
Hey, there are types of slavery, I'm assuming you know this by your education background, most Black Americans descended of slavery refer to chattel slavery when talking about slavery. Chattel slavery did not exist in Africa and the closest thing to it prior to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade was the slave soldiers of the Gulf Region just at the rise of Islam. In as much as this man made a lot of mistakes, not seeing the person behind the speech is putting you in absolutist thinking when discrediting him rather than understanding and exposing why it where some of the statements he made came from like with the Iranian propaganda.
@@availanila I am very aware that there are different forms of slavery, and that most black Americans descended from chattel slaves trafficked in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. However I disagree that "chattel slavery did not exist in Africa". That's a very absolute statement about 10,000 years of history covering an entire continent. There were definitely times and places in African history prior to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, when chattel slavery existed; enslaved people were treated as objects.
@@veritasetcaritas but you're quoting the entirety of human history to finger wag at something else (that you're trying to minimise). Every culture everywhere engaged in chattel slavery at some point in human history if that's the metric you're going to be stuck on; but only one that had a global effect felt to this day, was run by globally destructive capitalists and racialized entire races to defend it. And only that one that has affected the world till date and forever changed the *whole world.* Slavery the way it happened was never done before and by far not even by Mansa Musa.
@@availanila you are arguing against something I have never said.
Firstly Great House didn' say Mansa Musa never owned chattel slaves, he denied any kind of slavery by Mansa Musa.
Secondly I never gave my opinion about what kind of slaves Mansa Musa had. I certainly did not "finger wag" at him or anyone else, nor did I attempt to mimimize chattel slavery or any other kind of slavery.
Thirdly I agree the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade was the "only one that had a global effect felt to this day, was run by globally destructive capitalists and racialized entire races to defend it". This is one of the reasons why I dismiss modern arguments for "reparations" based on historic WHITE slavery; the modern descendants of historic WHITE slavery are NOT suffering under the same chronic oppressions which are experienced by the descendant of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.
@@veritasetcaritas see? This is you pretending you didn't disambiguate correctly. You said, even to me, in the 10,000 years of human history there was chattel slavery in Africa (something always done on racist debating to go like "see? They cosigned this atrocity!") What you didn't say, like you did for every point you discredited, is why he thought that and why he'd say that bit rather went out if your way to "chuckle" at the notion of Africans not owning slaves without specifying the kind of slavery he was equating it to.
As an American whose family is from Africa, it’s hard enough to even be exposed to African history outside of Ancient Egypt, and I’d rather misinformation not add to this difficulty.
This is the most true thing that I’ve ever heard. As a British man with Black African family, I find it so hard to get any information on the history, which I desperately want to learn. But if one does look deeper, African history is so interesting that it begs the question as to why these supposedly pro-African history people have to steal and lie instead of doing proper education on this incredible collection of topics
@@ahhno4662What you mean "black" though? Dude, you know where your family came from down to the specific ethnicity. It is like if you see some fair skinned guy in Britain named Fintan O'Neill you can probably guess he is of Irish history. So what, you Khoisan, Igbo or of Sudan? What? Humour me, WHAAAT? WHAT?
@LoneMagpie91 my family are descended from the Ga of Ghana, a group living in the country’s Southeast near Accra, within the modern Greater Accra region. There you go, weird internet stranger.
NewAfrica has some pretty good modern African history videos, I think they're on hiatus though until further notice bc of life reasons
@@ahhno4662I agree with the Black Africans / Black descendants who must wring their hands over the attempt to steal the history of other people, when their very own is often just as interesting but for some strange reason hardly ever gets studied. For instance: the Nubian kingdoms of Africa held their own against Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and then Byzantines, etc. There must be a plethora of information here to study, and make great factual movies from.
As an African American and linguist who cares deeply about REAL African history and REAL Black cultures, THANK YOU!
You're welcome!
you agreed with this eurocentric guy?? if you believe the eurocentric historian will give you true African history perpecrive then, you must be living in an alternative universe.
@@Pamoja1981 No boo, I live on Earth, where facts are verifiable facts no matter who tells them, and where people of every skin color make up fanciful mythologies about how special they are. Put the mythology down and join the real world.
I thought the liberals of all colours said race is a myth? Like women changing the goal posts are ya'll?
@kahlilbt what methodology are you talking about?? it is well known that Eurocentric and fraudulent Egyptologist have distorted and lied about African history and contributions of African people in the world history. keep living in that bubble, but the truth is being unearth in this 21st century
I once had a great interaction with Great House; he made a post claiming that all history is clearly falsified, because obviously stone age people could not hunt mammoths with spears. When he was challenged on this by various people based on the unambiguous archaeological evidence of mammoth hunting, he doubled down and claimed not only that humans never hunted mammoths, but that even today there is no evidence of humans ever at any point in time hunting and eating elephants. I responded to that argument with a video from the 1970s of Central African Hunter-Gatherers hunting and killing an elephant with spears, and then butchering it to eat. He responded by saying something along the lines of "Oh yeah, steel spears vs. sharpened sticks, you're so clever," completely shifting the goalpost when his "humans today don't eat hunt and elephants" argument was debunked.
On a different note, AAAAY MY BOI HIDDEN HISTORY BEING RECOMMENDED IN THE DESCRIPTION, YEEEEEEEAH BOI
Oh yeah, that's why he has that in his Twitter profile now. This is one of the reasons why I think he's a grifter. He really does not care what he is saying, he just wants to troll for attention.
I think i kinda remember the conversation you are talking about, that whole fiasco with the mammoths is probably the funniest drama i ever seen on twitter, i have never seen someone being so unambiguously wrong about something.
The most endearing thing about this is that someone was curious and dedicated enough to write a “definitive” paper on the Ancient Roman toilet accessories.
You have to admire the dedication of the single minded academic.
@@veritasetcaritasneeds doing
Let's remember (or watch for the first time) the scene from Sleeper where scientists are giving their idea of what a flush toilet is. Everyday things and practices could really do with better documentation for future historians. 😊
@@sarahrosen4985 this is why people decided time capsules would be a good idea.
Too many nations and ethnicities have had their history unfairly injected with ethno-nationalist rhetoric, So as a black man I am very appreciative of all those who help keep the space free of that kind of prejudice. Our differences make us special but our similarities, being _human_ , is what makes us important.
Thank you! Nationaolism has a bad habit of corrupting ethnic history.
Normies on twitter: screenshot or it didn’t happen
Historians on Twitter: primary texts, secondary texts, and extensive critical texts or it didn’t happen
yup
He is by no means the worst. Not only are there many more who are even crazier, but their views on race make the little Austrian corporal look like a Sunday School teacher.
I will say that after having found him I have certainly seen worse, mainly as a result of people who follow him.
Ooh care to share? One of my favorite types of lolcows
asks for a text in persian and gets an english translation 3x. wild
Worse: 3x _the exact same_ English translation
"Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace (...)"
- the Cyrus cylinder. Source: trust me bro
Everyone knows Cyrus was a great singer/songwriter 😂😂
It's true, I read it from primary sources
I concur I read it from pre cognition sources.
Afrocentrism is one hell of a rabbit hole to fall into, I had my afrocentric phase in my late teens despite being very knowledgeable in serious history, I repeated things that I didn't find very convincing but just felt good. Unfortunately, most afrocentrists lack the historical, geographical and cultural awareness to see through the bullshit and are just coping with an inferiority complex so they don't even wanna learn the most basic facts that expose some of their hilarious beliefs for what they are. Now what's truly disturbing is that parts of Hollywood and academia are giving in to their delusions and now blackwash some historical figures and all legitimate criticism is getting called self-hate if you're black, or racism if you aren't.
But the damage that's been done will be hard to correct, as with "The Woman King" that you brilliantly debunked last year, many blatant afrocentrist falsehoods and misunderstandings are now accepted as uncontroversial facts in black circles even by people that aren't activists nor do systematically distrust mainstream scholarship. The sad part with Afrocentrism is that this obsession with claiming Ancient Egypt as "ours" still leaves the study of West African history and cultures in a state of utter neglect and in fact, afrocentrists absolutely despise other African cultures, they're only worth mentioning if they can pretend that there is a link between Ancient Egypt and a given traditional practice but the disdain for and ignorance of what is Africa's real history, cultures and complexity is strong.
It's a real shame because _actual_ African history is really interesting. As a non-African descendant (that I know of, or not recently anyway) I find African history fascinating and it's true it's accomplishments are largely unadressed in mainstream education and pop-culture. We are missing a lot by not making focus on that and instead all the focus seems on trying to black-wash other non-black, well know, "cool" cultures; like "DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS A BLACK JAPANESE EMPEROR??" And the evidence is like a black japanese mask or something.
Afrocentrism literal definition is “a focus on or influence by Africa or cultures of African origin; Afrocentric ideas, attitudes, or emphasis.”
Ancient Egypt is African as it’s in Africa.
@@Ma1q444 Which is meaningless, Ok it appears on the map that Egypt is on a landmass that we now call Africa, but in terms of human and cultural geography it's in the Middle Eastern or Mediterranean world. And obviously there are no meaningful cultural ties between Ancient Egypt and modern West Africans and the transatlantic diaspora.
It seems like y'all aren't aware of Africa's size and human geography, there are multiple subregions of Africa with largely separate histories and cultural development, similar to Asia. I mean it's like we had Siberians pretending to have historical and cultural affinity with Sumerians because both Siberia and Mesopotamia are in "Asia", and built a whole Asianocentrist/Panasianist ideology or identity based on just sharing a the same landmass. Here you see how dumb that sounds, but of course we know the silly game you play: Egypt is in "Africa" => "Africa" is "Black" => Egypt is black. And now you feel so smart. I'm not arguing more because I know it's more about ego than truth, I've been an Afrocentrist and a Panafricanist, I'm no longer one and that makes me appreciate my West African heritage even more.
@@peteferguson518 Egypt borders Sudan, Sudan and you are acting like Egypt is across the continent.
Looking at the ancient hieroglyphics it is clear he Egyptians depicted themselves as black African with those features.
Strange you try to say Egypt is in the “middle eastern or Mediterranean world” ancient Egypt began around 3100 BC. Yet like many things in the world it has been whitewashed, Egypt was colonized by the Arabs and the Greeks and Roman’s so they tell the history yet when you look at what the actual ancient Egyptians said they called there land “Kemet” which means “black land”. It’s always been strange to me why the current inhabitants of Egypt are thought to be the originals. Nobody thinks that the white Australians are native nobody thinks the white Americans are natives, because the colonization happened in modern times.
But in Egypts case the fall of Egypt happened in ancient times and is less known about compared to colonization of the America’s and such.
Calling someone an afrocentrist because they believe Egypt was started by black Africans is a misuse of the word.
@@Ma1q444 Dude, again I have been an Afrocentrist, I know y'all's talking points, I know why they wrong and deep down you know as well. If you're genuinely interested in either Egypt or Subsaharan cultures there are more productive things to do than embarrassing yourself with your "Black kangz" nonsense, you could actually learn about their societies, histories, philosophies, customs, economic systems and the diversity and complexity of them just for the sake of it and not to prove something to yourself or others.
Because see, the vast majority of non-black people accepts that pre-colonial Subsaharan Africa was not stuck in the stone age like some white supremacists have pretended in colonial times, most non-black people also do not believe that ancient Egyptians were Swedes and that there weren't "black" passing people in ancient Egypt, including some in positions of power. Most people do not believe the most absurd white supremacist theories on the ancient world and similarly they don't believe the black supremacist ones that would have you believe that ancient Egypt was demographically undistinguishable from the Congo or that modern Subsaharan cultures are perpetuating egyptian traditions. That's just false and embarrassing, please stop and get genuinely interested in what you're talking about.
I feel like the whole Newton thing happens a lot in science. You'll have a mathematician from the classical period mention a thought experiment about not being able to predict the future and then people will say that he invented quantum mechanics. There was a lot of science done before the Enlightenment but I can't imagine that we would have reached the same point if we didn't have standardized algebra.
Agreed.
I became aware of him because people were retweeting his tweet claiming that white people never made any musical instruments and he was claiming that all instruments were created outside of europe and that europe only got instruments from other continents.
He wanted to make it seem as if white people are genetically inferior and have never made good music.
He was also very aggressive towards anyone disagreeing with him. So I knew he was being dishonest.
He has also been corrected by a couple of actual historians or other academics and he either ignores them or insults them. I'm totally certain he's playing to his audience and doesn't really believe this stuff himself, which makes him even more reprehensible in my eyes.
he responded to a racist and used the claims of the racist to answer. unfortunately, no one proved him wrong. for the music they took a bone with holes from a neanderthal.
Something I noticed this year is when Id be on Instagram and posts would pop up on my recommend which would be stuff like people of Latino or Native American descent talking about their cultures and histories. Nothing was really off in their posts but the comment sections were often times filled with I guess hoteps who would say stuff like black people were the "real native Americans" and used Afro Latinos as evidence of this. Essentially denying that they were the descendants of enslaved people brought over by the Europeans but instead had always been present in the Americas and retroactively were trying to take ownership of Native American tribal identities.
Like I didn't know this line of thought was even a thing
Those hoteps are almost completely found online. They exist almost exclusively on the internet. Outside their online spaces they're basically invisible and they're not taken seriously. That's why they seem outsized online in proportion to their real life presence, with few exceptions.
@@veritasetcaritas yeah that's what I was thinking
What’s most fascinating to me about that narrative is that there’s three conflicting versions of it:
1) African Americans are the real Native Americans
2) black people are the real Jewish people
3) Moorish citizens, a subset of sovereign citizens who believe that America has actually been Morocco this whole time
@Gloomdrake whats really insidious to me is how those people are doing the same thing as what white supremacists do by trying to downplay, deny, or highjack other people'a histories and cultures
@@Gloomdrakeyeah I guess everyone wants their piece of history.
Nothing better than debbunking Afrocentrists for the new year. Let's hope we get to see the next debunking of TIK "History" soon as well!
Merry Xmas and a Happy New year! 👋🏼
Eurocentrists next!
Next TIK video in two weeks. Happy new year!
@@veritasetcaritas Cheers for the update mate! 👌🏼
@@Ma1q444 I mainly do Eurocentrists. I have two videos on how the black pygmy myth has been weaponized in Australia and New Zealand to disenfranchise indigenous people, a video discrediting the idea that Archimedes invented calculus and wrote a mathematical proof which would have changed human history, a video on nine famous black European swordsmen during a time when people thought they were just slaves, a video discrediting every claim that European settlers were NOT responsible for a smallpox outbreak in Australia in 1789, a video on Cevin Soling who arrived in Vanuatu claiming he was the white savior foretold by a religious cult, and how the US Army's claim that "Havana Syndrome" is a real medical condition is just fake. Plus others. I usually avoid the Afrocentrists, and in this case I'm only focusing on what they say about Europe, not Africa.
@@veritasetcaritasits pretty admirable that you seem to have a grasp that it is unnecessary, mostly, to debunk afrocentrists. It has pretty much no traction or relevance except among a few people AND it brings out so much racism.
It looks like "Great House" needs to get his house in order! "Propaganda" sites such as his are very damaging IMO. Sadly, they've become ubiquitous. I salute the work you put into these critiques! They're very educational, particularly in terms of the proper methodology used to research history. Thanks!
Thanks!
I'm under the impression that much of what I see posted on Twitter is nonsense. I get quite a bit of bizarre stuff suggested to me from accounts I don't even follow.
You probably find the worst history on TikTok, but Twitter isn't far behind.
@@veritasetcaritas I've actually never been on TikTok, as I've heard too many bad things about it.
@@HistoryandHeadlines same, I avoid TikTok completely.
@@veritasetcaritas On Twitter and Facebook, I deleted all of my old interactions with people and just post new video links, without allowing anyone to comment. I only want to interact privately with friends on Facebook. As far as my CZcams channel is concerned, I only want to engage with people in the comments for the videos, as I am doing here. I found it to be a bit much to also interact on other social media platforms. I'd rather just have one place, the comments sections for my videos on CZcams to discuss my videos as well as others' videos.
Regarding the Archimedeans, I was going to cite this video on one of the YT history channels that idealized the Persians, but decided I didn't want the heartburn. Yes, it would be lovely to believe that Cyrus' empire was such an egalitarian place, but that's not how Empires work, unfortunately.
It's kind of in the name.
Nah bro Persia was on its way to liberal democracy before Alexander the Jock destroyed it all (except it's fine because he was gay now)
Very nuanced and well organized video.
Wasn't currently paying attention to Afrocentrism until lately when the algorithm recommended a video from the channel 'Shakka Ahmose', a guy seemingly dressed in Ancient Egyptian clothing ranting on how Modern Egyptians were Arab Na*is who had replaced the indigenous dark-skinned population.
Thank you!
Well the current Egyptian government is a military dictatorship .
Modern Egyptians are descended from the Hyksos Persians Greeks Romans Arabs and Turkish invaders
Crazy how quick some people are to accept propaganda from empires
People love empires when they perceive them as on their side.
@@veritasetcaritas people love anything that agrees with them, above the actual truth.
This is why we should always take claims CRITICALLY and not LITERALLY
And always validate sources.
@@veritasetcaritas yeah and that too 😅
I really appreciate you showing your proof of how you researched and verified sources, and how you didn't stop at just finding the sources but verifying those in turn and why you found the source suspect.
(you've also given me some new reading material for my worldbuilding, which is always something I love to take away when I check out a video!)
Thank you! As I said in the video, this could have been a lot shorter and taken a lot less effort, but instead of a basic dunking video I really wanted to use this as a showcase for good research and show my "working out". In the coming year I plan to make more videos demonstrating good research methodology, and how to fact check claims and sources.
Glad to have found your CZcams channel, sadly history misinformation is a dime a dozen online
Thank you!
Having studied physics in university, it being my main course of study, the last section of this video was a real treat
Thank you! I was so nervous about that part, because math and physics are so far from my area of knowledge that I was sure I was going to mess it up with some wrong terminology or inaccurately described history.
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I'm no scholar so take my comments with a grain of salt but I didn't notice anything wrong. So Good job!
Out of curiosity, I just took a quick glance of the wikipedia page for integration and it does mention al-Haytham and how he came up with a formula to calculate the sum of fourth powers and used this to calculate what we would call the integral of the function today, so in that sense he was doing a little bit of "calculus" but to compare that to the magnitude of the work done by Newton and Leibniz, e.g. calculating integrals for arbitrary functions, calculating and defining derivatives, showing differentiation and integration are in fact inverse operations. That's all Newton and Leibniz. To imply that Haytham was doing all of that 500 years prior is at best completely ignorant and at worst totally dishonest.
It's always the loudest and belligerent voices on twitter that are so incredibly wrong about whatever they scream about.
@@jacobrose6661 thank you!
You should remove that red bar at the bottom of the screen for the thumbnail. It looked like I had already watched the video
Thanks I hadn't thought of that.
Now I know what a critical text is.
I'll be covering more of that in a future video. There's a huge gap between the sources specialists read and the translations the public reads.
@@veritasetcaritasAs a layperson, I'd be fascinated to see this. Thank you.
@@veritasetcaritas I want to jump on this to say that I for one would really enjoy even an entire video focused on methodology in academic study in history.
@@vilukisu thank you, I do want to to focus on that this year.
@@mediocrefunkybeat I'll be working on it after the holiday season.
Am I the only one who immediately thought of "I wash myself with a rag on a stick" from the Simpsons?
And I was just pointing out to someone that a pubmed source was still under review. Keep making videos, man.
Thank you, I plan to explain the differences between as pre-prints, opinion pieces, test proposals, and other forms of academic documentation in future videos.
Black americans claiming egyltian hostory is theirs is like white south africans claiming siberian history as theirs
or is it closer to modern arab egyptians pretending that ancient egyptian history is comes from their ancestors or wight americans claiming to be french-canadian
I'm curious about the psychology behind people like this. Did they always believe these things, but feel emboldened by the online support? Or is it a cynical realization that peddling a pleasing, controversial narrative gets more attention than by comparison dry history, and chasing channel growth?
I'm more curious on the people who acctually follow these guys
In this case I think he is just grifting. This stuff he's coming out with really has nothing to do with African history, so there's no need to do this to bolster Africa. Additionally I have seen him corrected by academics on Twitter and he just ignores them or calls them names and then ignores them.
@@JcoleMc I guess some of them are hoteps, some of them are trolls, some of them just want their biases reinforced.
@veritasetcarritas you should make a video debunking all those twitter pages spreading bizarre lies like " Black Africans couldn't build double story structures", "they had no plumbing systems", "they were still in the stone age" maybe just maybe we wouldnt need accounts like Great House dishing back the same energy. Keep crying
I only did Classics as an elective. So, did I learn anything? I believed the xylospongium thing (even though it was never taught in class), so that's a point off. I did, however, recognise that you were talking about the Frogs just from the names 'Dionysus' and 'Xanthias', so that's a point in my favour. Now I gotta figure out a way to get off the mark. Great stuff as always, I'll let you know if I find anything when I check your work. ;)
Thanks!
If one asks is ___ the worst on twitter, the answer is generally no, as that is a barrel that has no bottom.
He's certainly doing his best, but yes since finding him I have seen even worse.
This work must have seriously been a sacrifice for you to make for us. Thank you, you've done a good thing here.
Thank you. I hope the detailed explanation of my research methods is helpful.
The part that amused me was the article that went "They may not be as well defined as the US Bill or Rights or the Magna Carta-" the misinformation about that last text's intent and purpose always makes me roll my eyes, and comparing any of these documents really feels like kiwis and zucchinis.
Yes indeed, the phrase "They may not be as well defined" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
The most generous way I could thread these texts together is that they represent a gradual extension of civic rights and accountability from kings to first the noble barons and then (white male landowning) upper classes. But Cyrus still doesn't fit in that and the Magna Carta was one document, promptly nullified by the pope - one that came before the age of absolute monarchy all over Europe so it wasn't so much a precursor of things to come as much as an odd detour in the history of European monarchy.
@@MenwithHill yes, Magna Carta itself is massively over-hyped as a human rights declaration, which it was not.
I find the calm, academic manner in which you present your thoughts refreshing. God knows I would not be able to suppress my rage when confronted with dishonest quacks of this sort. Hat off. Have a sub. Rock on.
Thank you!
Theres some excellent actual African History Channels out there ........ Stuff like this makes me weep for actual history .......... Like why even bother with this ? The Nubians existed and where most definitely African unless I'm gravely mistaken like why not talk about that ?
Because these people don't really want to talk about African history.
@@veritasetcaritas yeh well unfortunately that's a thing , like Ancient Egypt has to be up there with Atlantis with the conspiracy theories ......... And it's just sad , like here is this fantastic ancient civilization that gave us some of GOAT human monuments and it's reduced to cookoo land , it's just sad
@@veritasetcaritas sometimes I'm like thank god the mud bricks of Mesopotamia weren't so enduring . Which is as equally as horrifying
howd that one commenter get the idea that 20,000 is 1 sentence a day for 6 years. That’s roughly 2,000. itd be more like one sentence a day for 55 years 😅
Yes the math was off there as well.
He lost a zero somewhere in his calculation.
Great video! They are needed in this world mor than ever. Ty.
What is that hieroglyph called in the background , do you know it’s context?
I'm not even sure if they're real hieroglyphs since the image is obviously intended to be fictional.
😢 When you realise that your school teacher was using both types of Algebra to teach you, and it still didnt work.
Don't worry, I never understood algebra and haven't studied maths since year 10.
i could not imagine posting things to the internet without fully researching what i say, especially if i claimed to know what i was talking about. i don't even post assertions of fact in the tags on tumblr without googling it first.
Yeah it's not hard to do basic fact checking.
It’s genuinely a shame people would rather listen to these clowns instead of African academics who do the work and have personal experience with the subjects. Great house just makes their work look like a joke or worse, inaccurate because they can consider African history with nuance.
What really stands out to me is that since he has made this weird pivot to false claims about European history, he's spending most of his time on topics OTHER than African history. This is one of the reasons why I think he's a grifter. He's not helping to support African history at all.
@@veritasetcaritas exactly. It almost like he feels like he needs to tear European history down to make African history seem superior. Which is very insulting to African history and just not a very productive view of history at all. Definitely grifter, his bio now says “prehistoric mammoth hunter denier” or something like that. He’s a dipshit’s historian and he is very proud of that
The idea that the "spounge on a stick" where used to clean the latrine is pretty much a copy of what we use a similar looking modern tool for. That still doesn't mean that it was used for this purpose.
Yes. That doesn't mean that's what it was used for, but we have no evidence it was used for anything else, and we have clear evidence, including primary sources and archaeological sources, showing us people used other items to clean themselves.
I fell for the sponge on a stick thing until just now. Now that i think about it it's so much more logical that it was used for the latrine, we literally still use sponges/brushes on sticks to clean our toilets today
Don't worry, I did too. But yeah the more you think about it the more it doesn't make any sense.
50 minutes?
damn
I had a lot to say.
45:30 Jesus Christ. I can't imagine doing math by writing out everything you're doing in a sentence. Imagine doing that in, I dunno, topology. I'm not even a math guy, but I can instinctually feel the arm cramps.
I find it incredible that a system like this existed until the sixteenth century. It seems phenomenally time consuming and laborious, you'd think someone at some much earlier point would have said "This is a joke, we need to do this more efficiently".
Great video as always! Thank you for your work
Thank you!
Your discussions with this guy reminds me of an waste of time argument I had with a “Black Hebrew Israelite” whose sources amounted to assertions made by random Facebook users.
It's frustrating that he knows where to find academic commentary, but doesn't invest the effort into assessing and validating it, he just waves around bits and pieces of stuff he has discovered like they're magic talismans. This is not proper research.
He probably doesn’t read the commentary he’s citing. If Great House is anything like the fellow I argued with, he is likely getting his info from social media posts from elsewhere on the Internet- perhaps even copy-pasting it verbatim. These behaviours (like repeating the same irrelevant “answers” to legitimate questions) are a textbook behaviour of the uninformed revisionist
Archimedes developed a method of performing integrals by making an imaginary balance beam and coming up with ways of balancing two sets of objects against each other. It's how he got the forumla for the volume of a sphere.
You could at a stretch say he 'invented a form of integral calculus' if you wanted and not be entirely wrong.
I certainly rate Archimedes above Aristotle.
Can you do ZoomerHistorian?
I suspect the cryptofascist is strong in that one...
He is on my radar. I think I might make a video on how military CZcams tends quite strongly to lean right wing.
I expect him to be just as much of an “expert” of history as redeemed zoomer is an “expert” is theology. Bozo is using wojack memes to form an edgy internet identity, it’s pretty obvious these people are fascist hacks.
omfg based gonna check him out even though he's a z*omer
@@SockAccount111you don't fool amyone
This guy has become even more insufferable as of late, going so far as to imply that per capita isn't real
This is a very a academic and well-made video. It's more academic than I'm used to, but I'll try a few more videos and see if I can get into it. I also learned my Latin teacher was mistaken with his sponge claims, so thanks for that lol
Thank you! Don't worry, I used to believe the "sponge on a stick" thing too. It's fascinating how little sense it makes once you start thinking about it practically, even before we consider the lack of evidence for it.
Admirable restraint not going for cheeky puns or dad-jokes, re sponges. Esp considering the shit-tier quality of GH's "research" as shown.
(Excellent video; most of us ought to read more critically, including source eval.)
Thank you! I aim to maintain a certain tone of decorum, and I dislike other videos which try to turn every subject into a series of gags just to try and maintain viewer engagement.
TBF, those other CZcamsrs aren’t blessed with The World’s Most Engaging Voice like veritas is.
Very happy I found your channel, i appreciate what you do and i know you act like you don’t have much imagery but i think you do absolutely enough and the audio is great so its largely unnecessary.
Thank you! I would still like to improve my imagery in the future, but right now I'm just doing what I can with the skills and time I have available. Additionally I don't want so much imagery ir distracts from the citations I place on screen, since that would defeat the purpose of having them there.
As someone in a mixed family these topics have been around me my whole life. It always makes me at least sad and at most angry. Not as bad as black hebrew israelites or the nation of islam tho!!
Yes, NOI is pretty bad!
41:00: I realize that sounds repetitive but with a BS in math I got what they meant. 'Geometry' by itself in a mathematical context usually means Euclidean geometry, of which analytic geometry is an expansion using algebra (put overly simply). While you could rephrase that to remove the repetition of 'geometry' it would be more precised to replace the unqualified geometry with 'Euclidean geometry' or something like that.
Whether the history cited here is accurate is outside my wheelhouse.
Thanks for the comment, I see that makes perfect sense. I might not have been clear. I wasn't referring to the repetition of the word "geometry", but this repetition:
* ANALYTIC GEOMETRY after LINKING ALGEBRA to GEOMETRY
* ANALYTICAL GEOMETRY by establishing LINKAGE between ALGEBRA and GEOMETRY
It's the repetition of the content in these two phrases, which are synonymous, to which I was referring.
@@veritasetcaritas Oh, lol, I totally missed that. On these sorts of things I often skip around when someone is reading text on screen, which is probably why I missed what was actually being referred to.
@@professorhaystacks6606 it's actually easy to miss even when you're reading the text. I skipped that line the first time I read it, because I thought I had already read the sentence.
@@veritasetcaritas I skipped over it in reading too, but because of skipping around in that part of the video I misunderstood what you were actually referring to.
Great video!!!👍what are your thoughts on robert sepehr? Would you make a video on him?
I am thinking of doing one on him, yes. His views are so extreme that even other members of the "alternative archaeology" community keep their distance from him.
@@veritasetcaritas I agree, he's a complete nutcase, and their are people that actually believe his theories. Love the channel by the way👍 keep up the work.
@@nabzilla8860 thank you!
Of course it's Germans being the top academics on ancient toilette technology
It's good to specialize.
Great House is definitely taking advantage of people's nebulous understanding of calculus and our habit of attributing whole discoveries to one person. Newton and Leibniz did not develop calculus in a vacuum. By the time they were on the scene derivatives were already a common topic for mathematicians, Isaac Newton's own mentor Isaac Barrows had published a very important generalized proof of the relationship between functions and their derivatives. No scholar, mathematician or physicists does it all on their own. There's always a whole ecosystem that allows their genius to blossom.
This is completely unrelated to this video and topic but Great Man bs in science annoys me so much that I have to recommend youtuber's acollierastro's video on The Concept of Mass. It's a really good breakdown of the history of the theory of relativity and exactly what makes Einstein's contributions so important. czcams.com/video/6HlCfwEduqA/video.html
Thank you!
Arguably the fact that Newton and Liebniz came up with Calculus at a very similar timeframe points to the idea that given the field of mathematics at the time the develop of Calculus was inevitable, if it wasn't Newton or Liebniz someone else would've taken the jump and come up with the subfield, they just happened to be the people who made the jump first.
@@lucyla9947 yes, it seems to me as a layman that Cartesian algebra was the key element, and that once that had been devised then the calculus itself was more or less inevitable. But I'm still in awe of the minds of Newton and Leibniz given how much work they did independently.
There are so many fascinating histories from Africa, idk why these people need to invent stuff specially way out there stuff
Yes exactly. That's why I posted links to good Afrocentrist channels in the video description.
Glass, ceramic or pebbles to remove fecal matter, ouch!!! 😣 😂
At least grass or the bowl of water (like a primitive bidet?) look better, hihi.
I imagine pebbles could be smooth enough, but I have a hard time imagining glass or ceramic shards being anything short of uncomfortable.
Glass and ceramics can be very smooth.
Found this video randomly
Low key very funny
Vertas was so annoyed by this great house guy, he made a rather calm, polite even, rebuttal video with examples of how to cite and check sources.
A video that also calmly and constantly reaffirms how important it is to cite and check sources.
Yeah I thought at the very least it should be usable as a research tutorial, rather than simply being a rant against incompetence and laziness.
Utterly devastated the sponge thing is probably not true
I used to believe it myself! However the more you think about it the less it makes sense, and if it really was true we should have plenty of evidence.
I really like your videos because they make me feel scared of making similar mistakes you bring up
Hopefully my videos can help you learn how to avoid these errors through good research methods!
Outstanding
Thanks!
The thumbnail image (or, at least, the idea of it) goes back to the 90s, thus CRT monitor.
Yes it does. I remember that era well, when the Sony Trinitron was the CRT everyone wanted.
Im really starting to have trust issues after viewing youre videos. Whats youre thoughts on Bart Ehrman?
Bart is pretty great. He only has a few blind spots, I'd say.
Id love to know what those blindspots are.
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15:30 Not your mistake, but 20K over six years isn't one per day; it's ten per day.
Thanks, a few people have noted this and I've mentioned it in a pinned comment.
Oh wow, I always thought the sponge on the stick was used
I used to believe it too!
@@veritasetcaritas ironically the romans would know what the three shells are for
@@MazHem it was very tempting to sneak that reference into the video!
Can you review some good youtube channels please . World of Antiquity is a personal favorite of mine and is the Fall of Civilizations podcast as epic as i think it is ?
I have a list of good history CZcams channels I plan to review this year and explain why they're good.
@@veritasetcaritas mad , sick even 😉
Happy new year in advance people.
Happy New Year!
After watching most of the video I'd have to say the answer to the question must surely be no. Using sources at all that don't originate online already elevates them above a lot of people, surely, however annoying the deficiencies must be to a specialist in the field.
I'm guessing the majority of the casual "research based" youtube channels I watch on various topics wouldn't fare any better at this level.
I think deliberate misuse of academic sources is worse than someone just being ignorant. I think GH is a grifter who deliberately makes inflammatory content and willfully misrepresent his sources for his agenda. It discredits the academic process and makes scholarship unreliable. Along the way, he discredits those Afrocentrists who are out there trying to do good African history. So I think he's much worse than the average Afrocentrist.
signal boosting comment...sorry nothing really to contribute, just boosting the video
Thank you!
For years cleopatria was supposed to be black, they discovered she was from alexandra a greek
Modern academia is absolutely amazing.
This sounds like a joke, but I am serious that like you have someone that something they will go down in history for having made what is just being the definitive work on Roman Toilet Paper.
Specialization is the name of the game in academia.
Tbh ur wasting ur time. The person behind that sccount probably works at Walgreens never been to college and is probably just spitting out info they get from even more absurd accounts or sources.
That's possible, but I'm not trying to convince him. I think it's useful to showcase good research methods.
It's time to put to check this afrocentrism garbage for once and for all
Academic Afrocentrism is fine, but Great House's populist Afrocentrism is no better than the Afrocentrism of the Hoteps he disagrees with.
@@anika_h Eurocentrism is always bad. There is no good Eurocentrism. That's why I have several videos arguing against Eurocentric historical narratives.
alkhwarizmi was a translating indian and greek mathematicians
I haven't found any hard evidence for this. I have seen it claimed, but I have seen other scholars saying it is uncertain due to lack of evidene. I believe one reason for this is confusion over the role of Muslim shcolars in the translation process; they were involved, but typically as patrons, supervisors, or editors of the resulting Arabic text.
Checking the lists of translators given by Ibn Nadim and Ibn Abi Usaybiah, cross-rerferenced with other sources, translation from the Greek source texts was overwhelmingly performed by Christians.
* "Out of the fourty-four names of translators from foreign into Arabic language in IN's list, twenty-eight (64%) are Christians, two are Sabians, one is a Jew, none are Muslims, and thirteen (29.5%) are unknown. This study supports Rosenthal's assertion that almost all translators from Greek and Syriac into Arabic were Christians belonging to various churches. Born Muslims, according to Rosenthal, "acted only as patrons who ordered, and paid for, translations done by more or less professional translators and in some instances even provided translators with regular salaries for their services.", Mohammad Hannan Hassan, “Where Were the Jews in the Development of Sciences in Medieval Islam? A Quantitative Analysis of Two Medieval Muslim Biographical Notices,” Hebrew Union College Annual 81 (2010): 113-114
When they were involved, Muslim scholars such as Al-Khwarizmi typically contributed to theArabic text after it had been translated. They did not do the translation from Greek themselves.
@@veritasetcaritas also arab numerals are actually indian
@@jujharsingh5461 yes they are properly called Hindu numerals. In fact the Arabs themselves called them Hindu numerals. I have mentioned this in another video. But we do know the Arab and Persian scholars of the Islamic Golden Age had access to some Indian mathematics and possibly astronomy.
Ceramic shards 💩 💀
They can be very smooth! Obviously you need to avoid the edges.
Everything about afrocentrism is funny 🤣
thank you, for your scholarship (disabusing me of b^llsh*t)
You're welcome!
Mansa Musa was hated y his own ppl who they consider the reason why the Mali empire collapsed after him with his son who inherited a spent treasury after his dad did the Big Chief thing on his haji -
cori bush. is that you?? hahahah.
Mali didnt have salt mines. Salt came from saharan salt mines which were controlled by the Berbers. Mali produced gold and exchanged it at great cost for salt.
In the time of Musa, the Taghaza salt mines were controlled by Mali.
"Three of the most important commodities along these routes - and under Malian control - were salt, gold, and the kola nut: salt was mined in the north, at Taghaza, and was carried in the form of large tablets on the back of camels across the desert; gold was mined in abundance in the south, at Bambuk, then the source of approximately half the world’s gold supply; the kola grew in the nearby forests of Akan. Of the three, salt and gold were the most significant (and best remembered). Their allure had catalysed the development of the empire itself: Malian authority was established through the migration of the Malinke (also called the Mandinka), who moved west in search of salt and gold.", Charlie Harris, "Mansa Musa I of Mali: Gold, Salt, and Storytelling in Medieval West Africa", Global History of Capitalism Project, Case Study #16 (April 2020): 3.
@@veritasetcaritas according to Ibn Battuta Taghaza wasn't in the territory of Mali. Mali started at Walata.
@@ario2264 I didn't say it was in the territory of Mali.
@@veritasetcaritas right it was in berber territory. Mali imported salt from them at great cost.
I want to ax Great House a question, and whatnot.
all i could make out from this video is "i'm wight and i say so".
1.) Great House is not an Afrocentric you are calling him that unfoundedly. Pls define what Afrocentrism is next time if u want to make such a claim. Just because a person uplifts black history - given the lies told about it & then proceeds to show the humble origins of white history does not make them an afrocentrist.
2.) The first & last part about Persia & mathematics are obviously just sourcing errors & valid critiques u are addressing not necessarily an accurate reflection of his entire page where most of his sources & historical claims are valid, far more simplistic & expose the arrogance & fraud of Eurocentric scholarship.
3.) 22:14 ur claiming that in Ghana they have statues of “famous”black Afrikans who sold slaves ??! That is not true & I may be so bold as to even say that you 100% just outright lied to ur audience to inflate a narrative about black Africans being previously immoral slave traders (which is false & profoundly deceptive).
Not to mention this nonsense that “some” African Americans think no Africans played a role in the slave trade when numerous African American or African scholars have cited this from Walter Rodney, chancellor Williams to Thomas Sowell etc etc even activists like Malcom x, Louis Farrakhan & numerous black nationalists have spoken on the African role (tho minuscule & nuanced given Afrika is a large CONTINENT) in the enslavement, dehumanisation & denationalisation of black Americans.
1. I give an example of what Afrocentrism means in a screenshot in the first few seconds of the video. GreatHouse does not upift black history, and even if he did I would not call him an Afrocentrist for that reason, nor would I call him an Afrocentrist for simply showed "the humble origins of white history".
2. The problem is that GreatHouse's tweets frequently have such sourcing errors. He has been called out for his errors repeatedly by historians and other subject knowledge specialists, who he typically ignores.
3. I didn't say anything about Ghana having statues of "“famous” black Afrikans who sold slaves". Please don't create false quotations of statements I never made. I didn't even hint at any "narrative about black Africans being previously immoral slave traders".
"Not to mention this nonsense that African Americans think no Africans played a role in the slave trade "
Again, I didn't say that. I said this.
* "It seems that SOME members of the African diaspora, especially African-Americans, are very quick to claim slavery did not exist in Africa or was only introduced there by Europeans"
The movie The Woman King is an example of this tendency.
"The humble origins of white history". You people are so funny, so delusional, and so pathetic.
so the opposite of afrocentrist is eurocentrist???? you are not even doing a good job, you are just projecting.
There is no such thing as an opposite of Afrocentrism. Eurocentrism refers to an analysis of history which prioritizes and centers European history and culture to the exclusion of others. Afrocentrism is a movement attempting to correct false representations of African history and cultures. It is a legitimate area of academic study, and there are many well respected Afrocentrist scholars.
@@veritasetcaritas i completely agreed.
@@veritasetcaritasthank you 😊
Lmao you upset because he proved you people wrong😅😅
I am not upset. I simply demonstrated he cites sources he hasn’t validated, doesn’t know how to assess sources for accuracy, doesn’t understand how to read sources, doesn't know how to do proper research, and even cites sources which clearly don’t support any of his own statements. I notice you haven't responded to the content of the video.
@@veritasetcaritas he does provide the source. You people just don't look it up . How can you so called " debunk" him when you have no knowledge of the info yourselves?? That's not very scholarly 😩 for 10 + yrs he's provided the tools but y'all insist he doesn't know what he's talking about?! Hmmm Gotcha 😂
@@serwaa4649 you clearly haven't watched the video. I didn't say he didn't provide the source. I looked up every one of the sources he used in the tweets I quoted I notice you haven't responded to the content of the video.
I demonstrated he cites sources he hasn’t validated, doesn’t know how to assess sources for accuracy, doesn’t understand how to read sources, doesn't know how to do proper research, and even cites sources which clearly don’t support any of his own statements.
@@veritasetcaritas there are sites that supports his tweets . Sites, books and thesis written by professors. Just because you don't agree with it or feel like it's enough " evidence " doesn't mean it's not true. Your responses are emotional because you can't prove him wrong. You post half truth and say " this is what really happened " 😩
You're just bothered because he calls y'all out on your so called " white history " BS
@@serwaa4649 I really recommend you watch the video. It's obvious someone debunking your favorite peddler of misinfo is making you upset which is understandable, but try to keep an open mind and see that you're being duped.
Have you ever been to Egypt? The actual living day to areas temples, oldest hieroglyphics, first Dynasties are all from Nubia.
Luxor to Sudan is Kemet Ezekiel 29:13-15 described thousands of years ago 😂 Circumcision yes circumcision of Genesis given to AbraHAM is African origin as is Afrasian Afroasiatic language origin Chad/Niger 9000 years ago which encompasses Hebrew Aramaic Arabic Cushitic and many more.
15,000 years of shown history, linguistics from 9,000 year origins in Niger/Chad oldest remains, diversity from corner to corner on the planet and you believe a troglodytes perspective whose origin was in the bronze age less than 5000 years ago?
🤷🏾♂️
Definitely American
Europeans really don’t have a secular history without Africans directly or indirectly.
Afroasiatic didnt come from niger or the congo but from either northeastern africa or the levant , proto Afroasiatic was spoken and spread by people with a primarily western eurasian ancestry pool(most likey natufians or a closely related group) , and even today afroasiatic languages (which include languages like hebrew,arabic,maltese,amharic,coptic,etc) are spoken mostly by people with a primarily western eurasian ancestry pool .
Actually the numerous expansions of people from central and western africa has been to the detriment of afroasiatic speakers .
@@AMR_k400 Linguists believe the ancestor of Afro-Asiatic languages, the protolanguage called Proto-Afro-Asiatic, was spoken somewhere between 18,000 and 8,000 BCE. There is currently not a consensus on what the protolanguage for this group would have been, though many of the families do have protolanguages.
Current estimates believe that the Egyptian and Chadic language families were the first to diverge from the protolanguage, some time prior to 8000 BCE, followed by Omotic in 8000 BCE and Cushitic before 7000 BCE. The last two groups to diverge were likely the Semitic group and the Berber group, both sometime between 6000-5000 BCE.
Again
Current estimates believe that the Egyptian and Chadic language families were the first to diverge from the protolanguage, some time prior to 8000 BCE, followed by Omotic in 8000 BCE and Cushitic before 7000 BCE.
The Chadic group is the largest of the Afro-Asiatic family, comprised of over 200 languages. It is divided into at least three or four groups, typically with further subdivisions. They are spoken in Northern Nigeria, Northern Cameroon, Niger, and the Republic of Chad.
Maybe focus on Bronze Age modern Europeans🤔
Take your Levant myths elsewhere.
They were always in Africa for a reason.
Circumcised for a reason .
Prognathism and African cultural continuity for a reason.✅
Man got really salty over a Twitter argument and made an hour-long video about it lol.
Look, I'm not saying you shouldn't have made this video, it clearly and thoroughly debunks ahistorical silliness, but it is a little funny lol
Have you ever been to Egypt? The actual living day to areas temples, oldest hieroglyphics, first Dynasties are all from Nubia.
Luxor to Sudan is Kemet Ezekiel 29:13-15 described thousands of years ago 😂 Circumcision yes circumcision of Genesis given to AbraHAM is African origin as is Afrasian Afroasiatic language origin Chad/Niger 9000 years ago which encompasses Hebrew Aramaic Arabic Cushitic and many more.
15,000 years of shown history, linguistics from 9,000 year origins in Niger/Chad oldest remains, diversity from corner to corner on the planet and you believe a troglodytes perspective whose origin was in the bronze age less than 5000 years ago?
🤷🏾♂️
Definitely American
Europeans really don’t have a secular history without Africans directly or indirectly.😂
I just wish you didn't use the cringe "BCE".
How is it any more cringe than BC/AD, which doesn't even properly align with the actual date-range of Jesus' birth?
It's a the academic standard I was taught.
@@Duragizer8775 Because BC/AD is a long standing convention. Also, BCE and CE mean the SAME THING. It's just using the same date and making up expressions like "Common Era" to avoid mentioning Jesus.
Look, I know it's not the actual date. I'm atheist, anti-clerical and anti-theist. But changing the name of a century-old convention seems fairly void of purpose, since we're still basing year 0 around some guy's calculation of JC's birth. And then you create confusion between people by multiplying acronyms which all use the same point of reference. I think other timekeeping methods are interesting, don't get me wrong: if you're studying Arabic history, I imagine it would make sense to use the Islamic calendar.
In other words, it's cringe in the same way it's cringe for an adult to use "gosh darn it" unironically: we know what you mean, you're not remedying an actual problem, just swear like a normal person.
@@tiziocaio2631 ...so if long-standing conventions win, we shouldn't be using the Gregorian calendar (it only went into effect in October 1582), right? We should be using the Julian one, created in 46 BC/BCE, and in use for over 1,600 years to the Gregorian's paltry 441 years, and just deal with the equinox drifting thing with leap days like the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD/CE fixed it, right?
@@neoqwerty No. Read my post again. I object to the change here because it is not a change to the dating system, just a new name for the same thing. You're talking about different time-keeping, not nomenclature. Your example is wrong. You're wrong.
Im really starting to have trust issues after viewing youre videos. Whats youre thoughts on Bart Ehrman?
Overall excellent, with some blind spots. You'll usually find other academics picking up on any serious issues he has. Remember he's primarily a textual critic rather than a historian, so he tends to be very good on textual criticism and less competent at history. This is normal for any specialist stepping outside their area of expertise.