Thanks mate. Yeah if the AMT are big enough for the job I always find them to be really maneuverable but still have good drive. I have actually ordered some EN to try with the trailer they are a bit bigger. Cheers for the info :-)
@@lawson45uk go for it. I like the AMT just because they are the most upright so you get the most space between the twins' trailing edge and the leading edge of the centre fin of any 2+1 combo I've found. Stiffens the board up a bit but adds loads of drive. Good for faster hollow beaches where fat old me gets stuck behind on a single or out of control on a twin. Great fin setup in my opinion. If you want to go pure thruster you can try the futures legacy pivot thruster sides because they are really upright with a their 4.5 single right in the back of the box but I've found it lacks drive over the AMT with Lost trailer.
@@onshore1ft Awesome mate appreciate you spending the time to share the info. It's nice when people can help me save time getting to the destination with their findings too and good to know what's been working for others for when I try to help people with recommendations too. Thanks heaps :-) Will let you know how I get on once I tried a few setups... Hopefully it doesn't drive me to getting my box router out and adding boxes for side bites or twin and two trailers options too ;-)
Briefly owned a 6'4" in the same green colour. Rode it with EN twins and it lacked drive and hold. Put in a trailer in a fcs longboard adaptor and it improved. Still not optimal. Put in some Sanctum flex twins (they look like single fins) and the board came to life. I didn't try it with a pair of hybrid keels but feel that would work well rather than with a full keel for the combo of looseness and drive without slide. Feels like the board definitely has biscuit/glazer dna in the shorter length but maybe not so apparent in a 7'er. Interestingly my mate who rides same boards as I like has a 7' Sunday but prefers a 6'10" Hypto he has so the Sunday is up for sale. Be interested to hear what you think of the latest Sweet potato if you end up with one.
Hi Pete. That's great info really appreciate that.. I actually just ordered the EN twin as I have had those before and thought they should be a good set to have with that lost trailer..Spectrum fins sound a lot like the webber twins that are like big single fins.. He's just re released them with Naked Viking so maybe I should look at those too. Really hope I can get some results with this model. I keep trying to beat my Sadhana Piggy from our local shaper but often end up disappointed the custom one I picked up second hand has been the magic pill for clean waves at our local. I tend not to get on well with twins in shorter boards so hoping the longer rail length helps out. Felt pretty good first go but was literally one ft so can't tell that much form that. That was with the CI AMK Keel. The 6'4" i'm pretty convinced is the creeper model. I used to have that as a 5 fin and thought it would go well as a single.. Ironically maybe the 5 fin was a good iteration.. I find you need to be up towards the 7'0" length to get a single fin to work otherwise your often dealing with a board and a fin set up that lacks glide and drive so becomes harder to surf less your pretty good. Yeah that's interesting.. Funny enough I wouldn't have even considered the Hypto in that size before as it's huge volume as this is too lol so probably not a bad option though I think that design is made to be ridden fairly short so it's good to hear it works bigger too.. My mate bought my 6'2" Hypto and it's been his favorite in every kind of surf the last like 8 years. I wasn't super sold on it myself maybe should have stuck with it but never trusted Global Board build quality... I would love to get the new potato had so many of the sweet and baked there usually really good.. Got my bean bag for that though so will have to see but yeah I was super stoked to see that model. Cheers for the comment and the fin info Pete, really appreciate it
@@lawson45uk Got a hilarious story about the new potato...was the first buyer in Australia but by accident. Can't go into the details about it here. Just bought a Lib tech 6'2" rocket redux and one surf in with Performer quads has left a good impression though it is Cyclone Fiji waves right now. One of the reasons why I grabbed the Sunday was I never got to own a creeper but thought the outline was a great one. You may find the extra rail length of the 7'er precludes the need for a trailer as I did with the EN's.
@@petewebb5149 Ah mate I want to get me a lib tech quiver killer of redux but super hard to get here, would have to import one and pay extortionate tax and shipping.. The redux is good aye...Did you get to ride the new potato.. In my mind the question is always did they achieve more performance without sacrificing speed and grovel when they mess about with the last few inches of the tail like on the twice baked and now the dumpy semi swallo tail.. Locally grovel means grovel like should be on a longboard so anything trying to be a little more performance can spoil what was a good design easily.. Yeah the eggy middy creeper style shapes it's pretty hard to go wrong aye they work well at multiple sizes. Even in a 6'4" the Creeper had more glidey middy feels than hybrid shorties. The 6'4" I always thought would make a cool 7 ish. I think if you went to Rob back then as an actual PU that's what he would make you but obviously a bit more classic looking shape. The Redux is fast too feels like a quad even set up as a thruster and has range.. Great single board Hybrid shorty option for a good range of wave sizes good hold too for the rocker I liked mine. Yeah Be cool to see I like a lot of fin so went the EN for a trailered option the AMK Keel felt pretty good on the tiny waves twins not as twitchy and unpredictable once you add some rail length aye
@@lawson45uk didn't end up with the potato. Firewire AU put it up on their website with the US price. I clicked on buy it now. Paid for it. 10 mins later get a phone call from them saying they would not honour that price. Yes the Redux should be good. I re-watched your review before pulling the trigger. Noice.
@@lawson45uk Any more ride reports on the 7' Sunday? I'm still itching to get a 7'er to try. Edit: caved in and bought a 7'er...digging it after just a couple of waves at my local point. Didn't have much gas left in the tank after lots of waves earlier on a 7'4" Moe at Noosa earlier in the day.
Interesting point on the single + trailers, I was actually wondering about this. One question : i'm currently riding a one bad egg 7'0 (44L) in waist to overhead waves (with a bit of push) and I am looking for a groveller board that can do weaker waves from thigh to chest high. Do you think the Sunday would work for this ? If yes, I'm hesitating between the 7'0 and the 7'3, do you have a recommendation based on your experience with it ? (I'm 6'3, 83kg, intermediate level). Thank you for all your reviews :)
Hi Pierre. Thanks for the positive feedback much appreciated :) To be completely honest I would go for a longboard for that wave range myself but if you did go the Sunday would probably be a question of if you still want a chance at duck diving it. The 7 would just about do it since your roughly the same weight as me. the 7'3" would obviously grovel even better but yeah I would personally be looking at a longboard for the tiny waves or at least something more like a chunky 7'10".
@@lawson45uk Thanks ! What kind of wave do you think a 7'0 or 7'3 would be best suited for then ? Also, I can see from your previous videos that you often use the Lost Bean Bag as a groveler, how would the Sunday compare in terms of groveling capacities with the Bean bag ?
Hey Go Surf! What is your weight and height (apologies if you mentioned it and I missed it)? I'm considering buying a Sunday and am wondering if I should pick up the same size you are riding. I am an intermediate 48 year old surfer and am 5'11 and 182 lbs. I'm looking for paddle power and glide without sacrificing too much performance. I would also like a board that I can duck dive when it get's bigger. I am thinking anywhere between 6'4 and 7'0 would work but not sure which to go for. Thanks!
Hey mate. I'm about 84-86KG 190lbs only 5'7".. Yeah lol same dilema you could ride either or the one in between :-) So 6'8" You should be ok to duck dive I can actually duck dive the 7 pretty decent as the nose isn't too big but that's in fairly weak waves that arn't too hollow. I was suprosed I could sink it all to be honest but goes down easier than I thought once you get your positioning and timing right..7" will be the best paddling most cruisy but still perform ok. 6'8" Your probably gonna get best of both with an easy duck dive and still some decent paddle power 6'4" is gonna be more like a beefed up Hybrid still paddle good and still have a wee bit of performance.. Really depends on what you want the board to do and the gap in your quiver plus which fin set up you fancy. I might be wrong but I would assume the longer models are better as singles. Under about 6'10" they probably end up lacking drive but I might be wrong.Hope that helps. I really like how the 7' paddles, how stable it is and how it still duck dives. My only reservation is fin set ups. Take off is pretty decent but I find turning on teh face it's a bit slippery on the twins in anything over head high. Single fin lacks a little drive under head high but i'm a bit of a quad or single or single and sides guy so it was always a bit of a chance getting a twin.. Hope that helps.
I would say the Piggy might have a little more inherent speed and glide built into the board as it's got a wider nose and tail but obviously the piggy is a hand shape and the dims can change a bit year to year so is a little subjective. On my piggy I find it easier to get a bit more glide as a single fin than the Sunday but the Sunday has some nice speed as a twin. They do have some similar characteristics to a certain level though for sure. Cheers. Is this the same Local Mitch I chatted to at the weekend??
@@lawson45uk cheers mate haha yeah same guy bit irrelevant now that the boards gone to your mate hope he enjoys it. Ended up getting a dominator-2.0 still waiting to take it out
Cheers yeah I thought the twin and trailer was the most neutral feeling set up. Just think quads tend to work best for me. Nothing wrong with the board though, great shape rocker and foil really spot on almost considered trying to make my own in PU the Epoxy I use would be a bit heavier but that 53 Litres is plenty so bit more weight wouldn't have hurt. Glad your enjoying yours I really do think it's a great board for many people especially every day folks just wanting to have fun, stability and still be able to do nice turns.
Hard to say as not apples to apples I had the 6'10" Beyond but that was shorter less volume and in TimberTech which is a bit heavier. They both paddle very well though. I assume you mean the beyond. Not paddled a Sunday at my Seaside size. From just one quick ride it feels like the Sunday might actually paddle and catch a little better and also not need as much of a wave to come alive which seems counter intuitive but will see as I get a feel for it. Cheers.
@@MrRyanjephcott yeah absolutely. I mean ideally I would recommend a mal for those conditions :-) lol but if you don't want or don't enjoy riding a mal or can't fit one in your car etc then absolutely you might enjoy something like this. Especially if your on a fairly low volume shirt board as this would feel like a whole lot of volume compared to say a 30 litre shorty
@@MrRyanjephcott At the other end of the spectrum you could also look at something like a sweet potato or bean bag and go for surface area over length to get your glide... They can be good but in really weak really small peely waves sometimes the Mal is still the answer
@@lawson45uk thanks buddy, really appreciate it. I have surfed my daughters 6’6” soft lite and was plenty enough to get me into anything. So felt both the volume and length really got me in early, almost like the nose was pulling me into the wave. Can’t see myself on a Mal yet so something like the Sunday might be the go. Thanks again
Been riding a 7’3 Sunday for almost a year. Still having fun on it.
Thanks for the video and good explanation. It helped me a lot to look for new options and fin combinations in the 7.0. Greetings from Peru
Great review and good point about the fins. The lost trailer with futures AMT twin has been good for me, you get more thruster feeling.
Thanks mate. Yeah if the AMT are big enough for the job I always find them to be really maneuverable but still have good drive. I have actually ordered some EN to try with the trailer they are a bit bigger. Cheers for the info :-)
@@lawson45uk go for it. I like the AMT just because they are the most upright so you get the most space between the twins' trailing edge and the leading edge of the centre fin of any 2+1 combo I've found. Stiffens the board up a bit but adds loads of drive. Good for faster hollow beaches where fat old me gets stuck behind on a single or out of control on a twin. Great fin setup in my opinion. If you want to go pure thruster you can try the futures legacy pivot thruster sides because they are really upright with a their 4.5 single right in the back of the box but I've found it lacks drive over the AMT with Lost trailer.
@@onshore1ft Awesome mate appreciate you spending the time to share the info. It's nice when people can help me save time getting to the destination with their findings too and good to know what's been working for others for when I try to help people with recommendations too. Thanks heaps :-) Will let you know how I get on once I tried a few setups... Hopefully it doesn't drive me to getting my box router out and adding boxes for side bites or twin and two trailers options too ;-)
Great reviews, subbed!
Cheers mate. Appreciate it 🤙
Briefly owned a 6'4" in the same green colour. Rode it with EN twins and it lacked drive and hold. Put in a trailer in a fcs longboard adaptor and it improved. Still not optimal. Put in some Sanctum flex twins (they look like single fins) and the board came to life. I didn't try it with a pair of hybrid keels but feel that would work well rather than with a full keel for the combo of looseness and drive without slide. Feels like the board definitely has biscuit/glazer dna in the shorter length but maybe not so apparent in a 7'er. Interestingly my mate who rides same boards as I like has a 7' Sunday but prefers a 6'10" Hypto he has so the Sunday is up for sale. Be interested to hear what you think of the latest Sweet potato if you end up with one.
Hi Pete. That's great info really appreciate that.. I actually just ordered the EN twin as I have had those before and thought they should be a good set to have with that lost trailer..Spectrum fins sound a lot like the webber twins that are like big single fins.. He's just re released them with Naked Viking so maybe I should look at those too. Really hope I can get some results with this model. I keep trying to beat my Sadhana Piggy from our local shaper but often end up disappointed the custom one I picked up second hand has been the magic pill for clean waves at our local. I tend not to get on well with twins in shorter boards so hoping the longer rail length helps out. Felt pretty good first go but was literally one ft so can't tell that much form that. That was with the CI AMK Keel. The 6'4" i'm pretty convinced is the creeper model. I used to have that as a 5 fin and thought it would go well as a single.. Ironically maybe the 5 fin was a good iteration.. I find you need to be up towards the 7'0" length to get a single fin to work otherwise your often dealing with a board and a fin set up that lacks glide and drive so becomes harder to surf less your pretty good. Yeah that's interesting.. Funny enough I wouldn't have even considered the Hypto in that size before as it's huge volume as this is too lol so probably not a bad option though I think that design is made to be ridden fairly short so it's good to hear it works bigger too.. My mate bought my 6'2" Hypto and it's been his favorite in every kind of surf the last like 8 years. I wasn't super sold on it myself maybe should have stuck with it but never trusted Global Board build quality... I would love to get the new potato had so many of the sweet and baked there usually really good.. Got my bean bag for that though so will have to see but yeah I was super stoked to see that model. Cheers for the comment and the fin info Pete, really appreciate it
@@lawson45uk Got a hilarious story about the new potato...was the first buyer in Australia but by accident. Can't go into the details about it here. Just bought a Lib tech 6'2" rocket redux and one surf in with Performer quads has left a good impression though it is Cyclone Fiji waves right now. One of the reasons why I grabbed the Sunday was I never got to own a creeper but thought the outline was a great one.
You may find the extra rail length of the 7'er precludes the need for a trailer as I did with the EN's.
@@petewebb5149 Ah mate I want to get me a lib tech quiver killer of redux but super hard to get here, would have to import one and pay extortionate tax and shipping.. The redux is good aye...Did you get to ride the new potato.. In my mind the question is always did they achieve more performance without sacrificing speed and grovel when they mess about with the last few inches of the tail like on the twice baked and now the dumpy semi swallo tail.. Locally grovel means grovel like should be on a longboard so anything trying to be a little more performance can spoil what was a good design easily.. Yeah the eggy middy creeper style shapes it's pretty hard to go wrong aye they work well at multiple sizes. Even in a 6'4" the Creeper had more glidey middy feels than hybrid shorties. The 6'4" I always thought would make a cool 7 ish. I think if you went to Rob back then as an actual PU that's what he would make you but obviously a bit more classic looking shape. The Redux is fast too feels like a quad even set up as a thruster and has range.. Great single board Hybrid shorty option for a good range of wave sizes good hold too for the rocker I liked mine. Yeah Be cool to see I like a lot of fin so went the EN for a trailered option the AMK Keel felt pretty good on the tiny waves twins not as twitchy and unpredictable once you add some rail length aye
@@lawson45uk didn't end up with the potato. Firewire AU put it up on their website with the US price. I clicked on buy it now. Paid for it. 10 mins later get a phone call from them saying they would not honour that price. Yes the Redux should be good. I re-watched your review before pulling the trigger. Noice.
@@lawson45uk Any more ride reports on the 7' Sunday? I'm still itching to get a 7'er to try. Edit: caved in and bought a 7'er...digging it after just a couple of waves at my local point. Didn't have much gas left in the tank after lots of waves earlier on a 7'4" Moe at Noosa earlier in the day.
Interesting point on the single + trailers, I was actually wondering about this. One question : i'm currently riding a one bad egg 7'0 (44L) in waist to overhead waves (with a bit of push) and I am looking for a groveller board that can do weaker waves from thigh to chest high. Do you think the Sunday would work for this ? If yes, I'm hesitating between the 7'0 and the 7'3, do you have a recommendation based on your experience with it ? (I'm 6'3, 83kg, intermediate level). Thank you for all your reviews :)
Hi Pierre. Thanks for the positive feedback much appreciated :) To be completely honest I would go for a longboard for that wave range myself but if you did go the Sunday would probably be a question of if you still want a chance at duck diving it. The 7 would just about do it since your roughly the same weight as me. the 7'3" would obviously grovel even better but yeah I would personally be looking at a longboard for the tiny waves or at least something more like a chunky 7'10".
@@lawson45uk Thanks ! What kind of wave do you think a 7'0 or 7'3 would be best suited for then ? Also, I can see from your previous videos that you often use the Lost Bean Bag as a groveler, how would the Sunday compare in terms of groveling capacities with the Bean bag ?
Hey Go Surf! What is your weight and height (apologies if you mentioned it and I missed it)? I'm considering buying a Sunday and am wondering if I should pick up the same size you are riding. I am an intermediate 48 year old surfer and am 5'11 and 182 lbs. I'm looking for paddle power and glide without sacrificing too much performance. I would also like a board that I can duck dive when it get's bigger. I am thinking anywhere between 6'4 and 7'0 would work but not sure which to go for. Thanks!
Hey mate. I'm about 84-86KG 190lbs only 5'7".. Yeah lol same dilema you could ride either or the one in between :-) So 6'8" You should be ok to duck dive I can actually duck dive the 7 pretty decent as the nose isn't too big but that's in fairly weak waves that arn't too hollow. I was suprosed I could sink it all to be honest but goes down easier than I thought once you get your positioning and timing right..7" will be the best paddling most cruisy but still perform ok. 6'8" Your probably gonna get best of both with an easy duck dive and still some decent paddle power 6'4" is gonna be more like a beefed up Hybrid still paddle good and still have a wee bit of performance.. Really depends on what you want the board to do and the gap in your quiver plus which fin set up you fancy. I might be wrong but I would assume the longer models are better as singles. Under about 6'10" they probably end up lacking drive but I might be wrong.Hope that helps. I really like how the 7' paddles, how stable it is and how it still duck dives. My only reservation is fin set ups. Take off is pretty decent but I find turning on teh face it's a bit slippery on the twins in anything over head high. Single fin lacks a little drive under head high but i'm a bit of a quad or single or single and sides guy so it was always a bit of a chance getting a twin.. Hope that helps.
Will the tint Sunday turn to red color after a year?
I have that board with that same tint, but dark rails. Not that big a fan of the dark rails.
Would you say what your saying about the fin set ups be the same for the piggy from sadhana strictly single or a twin, the boards look vaguely simular
I would say the Piggy might have a little more inherent speed and glide built into the board as it's got a wider nose and tail but obviously the piggy is a hand shape and the dims can change a bit year to year so is a little subjective. On my piggy I find it easier to get a bit more glide as a single fin than the Sunday but the Sunday has some nice speed as a twin. They do have some similar characteristics to a certain level though for sure. Cheers. Is this the same Local Mitch I chatted to at the weekend??
@@lawson45uk cheers mate haha yeah same guy bit irrelevant now that the boards gone to your mate hope he enjoys it. Ended up getting a dominator-2.0 still waiting to take it out
ive got the 6'10 and i only use it as a 2+1 makes it much more lose
Cheers yeah I thought the twin and trailer was the most neutral feeling set up. Just think quads tend to work best for me. Nothing wrong with the board though, great shape rocker and foil really spot on almost considered trying to make my own in PU the Epoxy I use would be a bit heavier but that 53 Litres is plenty so bit more weight wouldn't have hurt. Glad your enjoying yours I really do think it's a great board for many people especially every day folks just wanting to have fun, stability and still be able to do nice turns.
How does wave catching compare on this vs the Seaside?
Hard to say as not apples to apples I had the 6'10" Beyond but that was shorter less volume and in TimberTech which is a bit heavier. They both paddle very well though. I assume you mean the beyond. Not paddled a Sunday at my Seaside size. From just one quick ride it feels like the Sunday might actually paddle and catch a little better and also not need as much of a wave to come alive which seems counter intuitive but will see as I get a feel for it. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk would you recommend for someone that only surfs short boards but wants something for mellow waves and can’t get in ahead of all the Mals?
@@MrRyanjephcott yeah absolutely. I mean ideally I would recommend a mal for those conditions :-) lol but if you don't want or don't enjoy riding a mal or can't fit one in your car etc then absolutely you might enjoy something like this. Especially if your on a fairly low volume shirt board as this would feel like a whole lot of volume compared to say a 30 litre shorty
@@MrRyanjephcott At the other end of the spectrum you could also look at something like a sweet potato or bean bag and go for surface area over length to get your glide... They can be good but in really weak really small peely waves sometimes the Mal is still the answer
@@lawson45uk thanks buddy, really appreciate it. I have surfed my daughters 6’6” soft lite and was plenty enough to get me into anything. So felt both the volume and length really got me in early, almost like the nose was pulling me into the wave.
Can’t see myself on a Mal yet so something like the Sunday might be the go. Thanks again