Firewire Machado Sunday Surfboard Review Part 1
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Another amazing creation from Rob Machado. Rob is making me one broke surfer. For that reason, I think I officially hate him (kidding of course). I highly recommend this board. In fact, depending on the size you get, it could fit in your quiver as a groveler, super groveler, ultimate groveler, and/or a mid-length.
I bought the 6'0 because I wanted a board that was about 38 to 40 Liters. I know for a fact that the 5'6 and 5'9 would surf better for me in terms of performance but I wanted something longer. I was hoping for a board around 6'4 but the 6'4 Sunday came in at 45L which is above my duck dive limit. Because I surf a beach break mostly, it made sense to get one that I could duck dive. If I surfed a point break or a reef break, I might have gone with the 6'8 to make it a mid-length since it has a longboard fin box.
But in the end, I am very happy with the 6'0. The ways this board was designed, I would love to test out the 5'6, 5'9, and 6'8. But since budgets are limited, I chose the one right in the middle.
Take a look at this video and let me know what you think.
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Gotta say your vid of the Sunday was more compelling than Rob’s official video!
tell rob that. Maybe he'll hook up his next crazy design. :) Hoping for an aysm, glazer heelside with a seaside toeside. :)
Very smooth & you looked like you were doing it easy! So many boards, so little time....! Loved the humour at the beginning, a factor sadly lacking in so many "serious" reviews! 11/10 :)
Forgot to compliment you on the informative yet humorous videos ....... Perhaps the best one yet.
Absolutely slaying those big sections, really smooth mate.
Thanks for the review!. Just ordered my Teal 6'0
Excellent review. thanks for that!
nice reviews Thomye, thanks, i just get a glazer and you are part of that man
Hey Thomye, I did in fact end up buying the board in part due to this video and the one about your 6'8! I ended up with the 6'4 but at 165lbs and around your age, I've so far found it works pretty much like you described in the 6'8 vid, namely that paddling for small waves is hilariously trivial, especially compared to the tiny shorties I usually pretend to ride. Still getting used to the board but thanks for making these videos!
thanks for the feedback. I'm playing around with fins right now. some interesting ones so I'll have to post a video soon once my work dies down a bit.
Hey, I like your review and hopefully I can get your review on every boards on the market.
Hope so too. :) really want to test the CI Mid.
Nice maneuvering!
Sick! Looks pretty fast! I’ve ordered 7’0”. It’s coming this week! I want to be able to surf wind slop during flat spell this summer! The volume is your friend😜 Cheers, bruddah!🤙🏼
I've ordered 6’8 to South Korea :)
@@konews_8627 I just got my 6'8 and surfed it today. Can't wait to get more footage to post.
@@konews_8627 Lucky you I wish I knew about this board before I ordered my board. Btw did you put an order from Ripcurl Korea?
Hey Thom! I just ordered a Sunday (one of two that I could find pretty much anywhere in the size I wanted). I got a 6'4" to fill that gap in my quiver, both in terms of length and volume. I'm fully expecting it to basically be the board I use most here in my weak, east coast waves. And also - my ultimate "dad board" - I plan to catch so many more waves with it than my shorter boards and to say I am stoked is a huge understatement! Your vids were instrumental in me making this choice, so thanks! I'm a huge fan and your surfing inspiresa me, big time. Cheers.
ultimate "dad board"... LOL
let us all know how it goes. stoked for you bro. cheers
Amazing review, thank you, i`m going with a 5`9 ;)
Great review as always Thomye! The moment I saw this board I felt my bank account flinch. I would recommend a FCS traditional single fin box to thruster adapter and try running a stabiliser in the back. I did this on a 6'6 eggy type board I was running as a twin and it was night and day. Made backhand so much better! Keep up the great work 🤙
Thanks for that. I will look it up because I was wondering how I would do it. I actually bought a really cheap longboard fin for $15 and I was just going to cut it down.
@@ThomyeSurfs it's called an
FCS LONGBOARD BOX ADAPTER.
(just googled it 😄)
The beauty of it is you can move that rear stabiliser forwards and backwards to work best with your twins. Allows you to tweak the release/drive. You'll love it!
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No need for an adapter. You can get the Lost Evil Twin or Von Sol nubsters for single fin boxes. Also AliExpress sellers usually have a few.
@@onshore1ft good shout, interesting! The only thing I would say is that a nubster is pretty small & not designed specifically for a more upright 2 + 1 setup (which is how I used it) but may work great with keels.
@@scotnicos5383 the Lost one is fairly big. Forgot to mention True Ames also do a few different sized small box fins. I have run the 2.5 with FCS Power twins, went ok.
Wow you looked amazing on that thing damn!!
thanks. i can't wait to take it out as a single and as a 2 +1
Fun board for sure! I went for the mid length option and just put up my review video - goes really well as a twin fin but I prefer the larger Machado keels (I’m 185cm and 83kg) tempted by the smaller version as well though! 🤙
Great review, I told Firewire how helpful you were when I got my Seaside, hopefully they hook you up with frew boarda in the future
Looks very similar to Rob’s single fin 6’1”
He ran with Channel Islands around 10 - 12 years ago
I loved that thing
Channel Islands MSF? Machado single fin or the Biscuit! Yep a Magic board I agree ⚡️
Great review. If you had to choose between the Seaside and Beyond vs the Sunday, which would you choose. Did you ever get to ride the CI Mid?
I haven't ridden the CI Mid yet. 😥 As for choosing between the Seaside & Beyond vs the Sunda, it depends on the height. if you told me which 6'8, although I haven't ridden the 6'8 Sunday and I don't know for sure, I suspect I would go with the S&B because it is 40L vs the Sunday which is 48L. If you told me go with what I thought I was going to use more often and in more condition, the 6'0 Sunday. The Sunday 6'0 is 38.2L while the 6'8 S&B is 40. Having said that, since I surf a beach break, volume factors in a lot, being able to duck dive. If I surfed a reef or point, it wouldn't matter as much in the longer sizes.
The board looked great under your feet!
I will say that twin fins in general have that problem of not being great backside - reason why i might have to pass on such board - but man does it look great going front side.
I'm going to try it as a twin plus trailer. I will also try it as a thruster although I think the five six or five nine would have went better as a thruster. Ideally the 60 would have been great as a quad
Great review, Thomye! Watched the whole series. Gonna buy a 7'0" with the 2+1 boxes with the goal of setting it up and riding it as a twin with keels, out of the gate. Looks like future Sundays are only coming with twin boxes.
yeah, not sure why they did that. I like the US fin box. Makes for great options. I recently tried it as a single again, this time a bigger more raked single and it went really well. Might have to do an updated single fin video.
@@ThomyeSurfs That would be a cool follow-up. DO IT!!
I'll take any machado board you feel "isn't good enough" hahaha.. I totally get you on that 😅🤣
Nice review as always. I have the 5’6. It’s very fast and turns on a dime. You would rip the crap out of the 5’6 seeing you air that 5’9.
I'm on the 6'0 actually. haha
But you are right, I think I would love the 5'6".
I picked up the 7’3 and using his keel fins. Loving it here in SoCal.
Yeah it know how you feel. I have about all his boards, except the Midas 🤣
How’ve you been liking it?
@@suavecitojoee lovin it. Been surfing it in 2-4 foot surf here in San Diego.
I’m looking at 7.3 Sunday too I really don’t want to transport 8 or 9 foot longboard around ! 57 liters on 7.3 Sunday should compensate for shorter length I hope ?
After watching this review, I just bought 6'0 Sunday which is the first surfboard for me over $1000. I think I can get a lot out of this board since it paddles really well I will have more wave count, yet I can still practice some maneuvers with it. It comes only in twin fin setup now, so I'm going to try the latest extra large Machado keels and Britt merrick twins. So excited to have a decent groveler for this summer.
stoked for you. I love mine. I have the 5'6, the 6'0, and 6'8. LOL Might need to pull the kids out of private school and send them to public. hehe
@@ThomyeSurfs Planning on a review of the 5'6 as well? I'd like to see that.
@@danielcampbell7164 yeah, if I can get some footage, I will definitely do that. I had to get through some other sessions on some borrowed boards to take advantage of having them. probably like 4th in line right now.
Great review so what are the top 3 boards in the Rob quiver now? Is the Sunday replacing the Seaside and Beyond?
you asked probably the toughest question. Making me decide. LOL
1) Modern2. Not for most but I like it and it has been very consistent in performance for me. Having said that, if there was a version of the seaside that was longer and narrower made for a bit more performance, I might have to scrap the M2. I love the bottom contours of Seaside but I do love how the 5'6 M2 surfs like a 5'3 but has better swing weight and longer rail line.
2) Twice Baked 5'3". this is my best small wave board. by small I mean 1' to 2'. However wave height is only one factor of many. If the waves at 2' got fast and punchy, I'd go to the M2. If a 3' wave was super soft, I'd hang up my M2 and go with a twice baked.
3) Sunday for versatility and fun factor. Having said that it would be the 6'0 sunday. If you asked me to pick a 6'8, then I'd pick the beyond as the Sunday has a tad too much literage and becomes too thick.
So many people want me to compare the Sunday to the S&B but it's not that simple. if I were to compare the two at the same liters, then you would have to compare the 6'0 to the 6'8 and right away, the 6'0 will have wat more performance inherent to the board. When then if I wanted a mid length for performance something 6'8 and bigger, then the S&B is better at performance but not as good at groveling unless you opt for the Timber Tech version.
The only thing I will say, and I have said it many times, the Sunday up to now has been the most fun to review. It has surprised me as a twin, 2+1, 1+2. Not so much a single, but that was more me. All in all, if I had no choice, I would keep me Sunday over the S&B. I did recently ride a 6'8 Sunday and even then, I'll pick mid length glide and cruising over 6'8 performance so, Sunday Sunday Sunday. :)
Thank you Tomye
I contacted firewire..about your youtube page being so helpful, I added your link etc....mentioned I'm going on my 3rd firewire board purchase because of your reviews ..they responded back to me today yo!
That's cool. They do have great customer service.
Btw, thanks. Appreciate it. Fingers crossed for some loaners. I want to review the 6'8 Sunday against the CI mid. Or maybe FW will release a 6'6 Sunday next.
I was hoping gvthey would clearly give you boards to demo, have, discount..etc ..but there responce was "Hey thanks for letting us know were gonna hook him up with some gear..and well definitely check him out" but it sounds more like stuff..tailpads, leash, wax , shirts stuff to me..hopefully more folk will reach out to them.
You got it...#stay stoked!
Hey thomye
I started watching this vid telling myself I don’t want a Sunday, I don’t want a Sunday… now I’m
Not too sure, Dam it.
Based on your vid’s, I was super keen on the twice baked, as I don’t really have a groveller. Now, I’m not too sure which one.
Over in Aus, the FW boards are bloody expensive, plus fins, pads, leggie etc. so I only buy a board every few years.
I’m 51 years old, 6’3” tall and 190 pounds. Only get out around twice a month.
My regular board is a spitfire, 6’8” - 48 ltrs. So I’m used to high volume boards.
Typing this out, maybe the Sunday is too similar to the spitfire, so I’ll keep my cash for the twice baked when there back in stock.
Thanks for all your vids. Love them and I’ll tell FW to hook you up. The new mashup sounds fun too. Be great to see you review that.
Cheers mate,
Jason - Victoria
yeah, i think volume wise you might be right about the 6'8 spit and Sunday being similar. they would be about the same length. What size TB were you looking to get. Keep in mind, that something like the 5'11 TB although slightly less volume than your Spit, still is a better groveler cuz it's wider and all the 45Liters will be concentrated in a shorter package where you paddle and need it for most. Hope that makes sense. As a comparison and example, I used to have a 5'8 dominator, i think it was 31L. I also had the 5'1 Baked Potato which was 29L. The BP groveled better. it was 1.25" wider and all 29L was literally under my chest. While the 5'8 Dom spread the volume out to places I would not feel it paddling, like the nose.
the 1.25" width also helped it plane so much better. You can't really go wrong in my opinion, they are both so fun.
Thanks for the reply mate. I was thinking about a 6’1 (47) or 6’3 (51) TB, based on the litres , surf frequency, my height and skill level (avg intermediate).
I hear what you’re saying about all the foam under your chest, so the 6’1 could still work well.
I’d be using this kind of board, on high tide, small swell days where my log isn’t right, as the waves aren’t long. So a board to pick up waves very easy, but easy to manoeuvre would be great. Much easier in the car too 😂
Cheers again for your reply and all the vids mate. It’s amazing all the little tips I’ve picked up from the vids. Even waxing up,, and straight front leg on my back side turns. love Em
Jas
oh wow you're shredding this thing - 11:25 360?!
i think lost made a center fin for the single box to get a thruster setup, interesting to see you surf this volume. Would be good if firewire will help testing, otherbrand could do it too. For the fin setup they might have some rule related to the weight of the board in helium, best board for the fin setup ive seen atm are lost board , especialy smooth operator.
Agreed on the Smooth O. I saw that board and thought of getting the 6'6 over the CI Mid. The CI Mid in terms of viewership is so much more popular. I think their marketing and naming was just better. They should have called the Smooth O the Meyhem Mid.
@@ThomyeSurfs i think smooth operator is a cool name tho =/ not enough marketing i guess.
Nice vid thanks man! Any idea how all that volume and helium construction holds up in a bit of choppy waves? Worried it might get too bumpy...
it seemed fine in all the conditions I've surfed so far. Having surfed the Seasdie, Spitfire, and other Helium boards for years, I found that the chatter only comes into play in certain conditions: heavy off shore winds where it creates a texture on the surface. In those conditions, the board is pretty annoying but in the last 10 years of surfing these boards, I have only surfed those conditions twice. So the positives of buoyancy, strength, and lightness of swing weight far outweigh the negatives for me. Also, maybe I'm used to it now too.
On this board, one thing I did notice and I'll have to mention it on the next fin test, is that since it is 38 L, it does keep me out of the water and it pushes back more than other boards. So, I felt like my feet hurt. When I would do a heelside turn, my heels felt my weight where as on smaller boards, when I push, they push into the water a bit so the pressure gets slightly absorbed. Hope that is making sense.
@@ThomyeSurfs thanks for the very informative reply!
Hi, I've been riding a 6'1" glazer@45liters..I'm 5'7" and 165lbs..I know this is A-Lot of volume..but I can catch almost everything.(I've been growing alot with skills w it)This glazer was to take place where the 5'10" seaside would not be good for over head and hollow/steeper waves. BUT..I can feel the big volume of my grazer mayne getting in the way when I'm trying to get better with my cutbacks..like it need a bigger or more space/open face to get a good cutback in..or maybe I need same type of board with a squash tail..OR ..I just need to learn how to put more weight on my back foor(I'm heavy front footer!)..SO..I want to try a more nimble board..but not a drastist change and regret it by the the loss of volume. The SUNDAY at 6' will have 38liter and have head it has more pinched rails? Do you think the sunday is a good choice? Or as a thruster..even with less volume 6' @38lit as a thruster I wOnt get more performance as my glazer 6'1"@45liters. I was even think dominator 2.o but that board will probably not float me enough to grow with cuz it would have to be a super long D2 maybe 6'4 or 6'6 to keep up with my volume I'm growing good with? I know this is alot to throw at you..but..you have helped me many times and have been on point already:)
two ways to look at it in terms of cutbacks. 1) if you have a lot of speed, you definitely need more space. it does help to have a looser board but at 45 Liters, i'm not sure if there will be too much difference between the 6'1 glazer and the 6'4 Sunday. both are 45L. the only thing better about the sunday in this case is that it is 1.5" narrower. 2) if it is a smaller wave, just get that back foot way back and don't lean. make sure you just put pressure on your heels an get super low. Bend the back knee and straighten out for front leg. Get your back shoulders way over the front knee.
as far as tail shape, rounded is always easier on heel side in my opinion. So if the cutback is a frontside one where you are on the heels, the glazer and/or Sunday is definitely easier to control than a squash. Just a matter of technique. as i mentioned above, try not to lean into your turn. this is my biggest problem with backside bottom turns. I lean which makes me dig the front rail.
Excited about this one looks veeeerrrryyy similar to the old Creeper which I thought would make a nice single fin back then. Twin single even better :-)
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Creeper for sure. outline is almost spot on.
Also agree quads would be nice too but you can't have them all and them be anything like optimal unfortunately. A real twin and keel should have the side fins further back less cant and less toe than thruster or quad front fins to really work properly. After having the creeper I would set these up as a quad single and where possible on the right sizes that could possibly work as a single and side bites too. They're is a lot to fin positions and fin toe and cant I dont think most people really understand including myself. Shapers have a good handle on this and know it's best to have each position set up a different way to really get the right feel. Keel fins at 9degrees cant up in the thruster spot unsurprisingly too loose and scakatey. Sorry to crap on with details. Love the reviews 👍👍
The creeper was originally designed as a single fin. I saw one on rack years ago.
I still have and ride both my creepers.
@@lawson45uk no Good stuff. thanks
@@charleshawk6668 Yeah true aye they existed in PU as a single before and protos aye. Good call :-)
Stylemaster. Even starting to surf like Rob now lol
I wish. That guys is too smooth.
I got the Seaside 5'7 and love it, but it reaches its limits in powerful waves above head high.
Do I go a Sunday 5'9 or 6'0 or Glazer 5'9 for bigger hollower days?
I guess it somewhat depends on the Seaside you have. Is the volume good enough but the attributes falling short on performance or is it both. Meaning, would you need to step up the volume.
Seasdie 5'7 X 21.62" X 2.5" @ 33.6L
If the volume is fine on your Seaside and you just need a better performance, here is how I think it breaks down:
1) step ups should be longer. Often you will see pros go longer but add very little volume. the longer rail line is what you are after. It stabilizes the board and help with drive through turns. I have never seen a pro add thickness to their normal outline to make a step up have more volume. I think it just makes the board feel heavier and less agile.
2) avoid too much width.
Having said that. Here is what I think of the boards below.
Sunday 5'9 X 20" X 2.62" @ 34.66L - has the extra length, is narrower, and same float. Only negative is the fin set up. You can't get a proper thruster set in or quad.
Sunday 6'0 X 20.25" X 2.75" @ 38.32L - same basic pluses but might be too much volume. Although rails are pinched a bit, it might still end up being too thick. Also the same issue with fins.
Glazer 5'7 X 20.44" X 2.62" @ 33.7L - not as narrow or long as the Sunday in terms of volume to outline ratio but the tails is pulled in more and the fin setup is better for bigger, steeper waves.
Glazer 5'8 X 20.62" X 2.69" @ 35.1L - might be getting a tad too wide. since it's LFT, I am guessing the float of this Glazer is about the same as your Seaside. The helium floats a tad better.
Disclaimer, I have not surfed my Sunday in anything other than a twin. once i test it as a thruster and a 2 +1 (twin plus stabilizer), I'll have a better idea.
Hope that didn't confuse you too much. :) I too am looing for a better step up. Not sure what to get, it might be something like the Pyzel Shadow, Phantom, Ghost.
@@ThomyeSurfs thisbis the info I need..will take as much as I can. Comparing the glazer to the Sunday..a sunday as a thruster. Thnx
Really like the Sunday for my next mid length. My only concern is will I be able to ride it on a Tuesday or Wednesday? 😂
Totally, it only goes Left though on the other days which is why it works so well for me. 😜
@@ThomyeSurfs Perfect I'm sold! I'm also allergic to going right and regular footed 👌🏻😂
@@RaulEdu33 same, I think my illness is called lefteitus.
Thomye, I’m curious what your thoughts are on the Sunday vs the Seaside and beyond? I’m looking to get a high performance kind of mid length. I’ve seen both of your reviews and I like to surf like you doing a lot of turns. I’m curious what would be your recommendation between the two for a mid length like 6’8-6’4?
🤙🏾Eduardo
Cuz of the size to volume ratio, if you are looking at mid-lengths, so 6'8 and up. The LFT S&B will have better performance at the same length. But the Sunday will edge out the timberteck versions of the S&B. My opinion. Also, since they don't make a s&b shorter than 6'8, the s&b wins. The quad helps too.
Man now you got me second guessing. I really like the Sunday’s shape/outline, I have an 8’6 Skip Frye with the same shape that I love so I thought the same shape in a shorter version would be awesome 🤔
@@ibwardo9497 it's definitely been the most of fun of all the board reviews.
Another great review Thomye. I do really think you would have much more fun with the 5.9, you go well, but you miss the final "push" at the end sections ...Now you are justin missing the Flat Earth...FIREWIRE PEOPLE PLEASE SUPPORT this reviews !
One final tip: you add a fin with the small "engine" in the options for this board, since the center fins allows it.
First off waves were going off, secondly you were clearly jazzed and the board looked so spicy needless to say.
My take ....... I like it alot.
To me I think you would also love it MORE as close as your height and about 5 liters above your normal high performance literage IMHO.
Looks ultimate of all your boards!
I like that single fin concept ....... Upright Twin should shine moreso than the keels ala T1's or True Ames for sure.
Makes me want one ....... 5'6 for sure. What out of stock??? NOOOOOOO!
🤙♥️🍻
they have one at hss in huntington beach. a 5'6 and 5'9 still in stock. If I remember, you are down in SD right. Not too far. Wish I had more money, I would go pick up either the 5'6 or the 5'9. I like that volume and I'm starting to like the narrow boards for better control. I do like how Rob made the sizes not overlap too much with the Seaside and Beyond. It makes me want to also try the 6'8 as a mid-length. I bet he will come out with the in between sizes in 6 months. like a 6'2 and 6'6.
haha ironically I'm going to San Diego in a few days vacationing now in Vegas actually live in Hawaii!
I'm looking for another surfboard via Craigslist or anything in California! I forgot to say it has that Creeper or Hypto vibe to it.
@@ThePokersurfer yup. The creeper is my favorite board. I have two. When I first picked my Sunday the first thing that came to mind was the creeper when I saw the rear domed deck.
The creeper was originally designed to be a single fin.
@@charleshawk6668 also reminds me of my magic 5'6 Hypto Krypto outline
How does it compare to the Glazer? Agree with the start of the video ref too many boards/options having just got a glazer as well as.a S&B....
hard to compare because of the size difference. My Glazer is the 5'3 @ 28.7L. It definitely would be interesting to see how this goes at say 5'6 and compare that to the Glazer 5'7. I think this is where it would help to have FW stoking me with demo's for me to compare. Although my guess is, Rob doesn't want to cannibalize his own sales, which is why I think he makes the fins so different as well as volume to dimension ratios. if you think about it though, the boards are super similar in terms of contours. Fins are different and outline is a tad different. The Sunday outline resembles something between the Glazer and Creeper.
Rob Machado so much shredd left 🌊 🤙🤙🤙.. 🤤🤤 FROM SARDINIA SURF CHANNEL ITALY 🤦♂️🤘🤙🤙😍😍
Thanks for your great review, Thomye. Hope you get a chance to try out the rest of the size range. There's a new Firewire 'The Wire' podcast out interviewing Mr. Machado about the Sunday... an interesting listen as he breaks down the board attributes. I have to say, seeing the last few minutes of footage in your video, the Seaside still looks more fuuuuuuuuuunnnnn... I'll be keeping my 5'8" Seaside...
Yeah. The 360s are seamless with the seaside. Totally different boards. If one can, nice to have both. Provided you don't get them in the around the same size or volume.
Where is this? Looks a lot like the waves we have here often in Holland. Makes the review even more interesting for the board. Thanks
This wave is Huntington Beach California. just a tad on the north end. These were pretty decent days, especially day 1 on this board. Day 2 was good too but smaller. But all in all, great for a review to get a good sense of the board. :)
@@ThomyeSurfs oh great, I have been there a few years ago but surfed right next to the Pier. Loved it there and really want to go back as soon as we are free the Corona situation. Liked your review. Keep up the good work!! Cheers from Holland
I think this spot is just a little more consistent than holland.
@@taradead oh no doubt hahah. I was more referring to the waves that were surfed that day in the video. The Northsea is unfortunately not super consistent.
@@jorilangerak562 I will say that south Orange county in California is pretty consistent but not always good. We got lucky for a while. Whats the water temps in Holland.
I'm interested to know how it surfs, compared to the Seaside & Beyond?
Between the two that I have, 6'0 Sun vs 6'8 S&B, which is 38.32 L and 40.2 L respectively. The float is similar but s&b catches waves a tad better. Performance goes to the Sun because it is shorter. A lot shorter.
If you compared the 6'8 to 6'8, the s&b might win on performance because since it is 8 L less. Then the Sun would float and and catch waves better. It would be nice to test both in the same size.
Really useful video. Mine just arrived today. Are you still riding it now?
I'm still surfing the Sunday quite regularly. Especially now with the CA sandbars all jacked up. The waves have been rather fat and soft so the Sunday has been helpful. Here is my last session on the 6'0 as well as the 5'6 and 6'8. They were all within 2 weeks of each other.
czcams.com/users/shortsJVdabAgxBN8
Are you going to do a review with the machado keel fins ? I heard you mention them here , but I'm not sure which segments (if any) are the machado keels
this entire video was on the Machado Keels. When I first made this video, I didn't think about fin options. only is post did I think about a fin series. I was fortunate that the waves were pretty decent and bigger for the twin keep set up.
@@ThomyeSurfs thanks for the reply! I just picked up the 6'4" and originally had MR Twins , I'm 6'2" and 225lbs and those didn't work out for me , no drive and tail slid around everywhere, I am hoping for more drive and better hold , your surfing looks great here with the machado keels !!! Can't wait to give them a go!
@@soulrebel9653 for sure the keels are better setup for a dedicated twin, way more hold and drive, also, take a look at these for the MRset up.
futuresfins.com/products/lost-3-625
my favorite set up on this board now is the surf prescriptions tall boy twins by NVS with this trailer. works perfect for me. Good to have options though.
Ciao Tomye and cheers from Italy. Really interesting the comparison between the Sunday and the Twice Baked, at least for me that I'm looking to find the perfect groveler for weak waves like our Mediterrean swells. I had a Seaside in 5'8 (I'm 6'0 x 156 pound) and was pretty good but lacking a bit of easyness in the very bad days. But definitely let me fall in love with the crazy Helium tech that is a state of art for me. So when it came to find an alternative for the 1-3 ft range, sloppy, messy, longboardish waves I was investigating al lthe option in Helium and, from my understanding, the Twice baked shape could be the best one but i didn't fall in love with Timbertek whith a previous baked potato. So, my question is, does the Sunday could be the go to board for most of the days? Grazie!
so lets start with a few things we know.
5'8 Seaside = 35.4L and 21.94" - already a big groveler. You want a super groveler possibly a mega groveler, something that gets you in easier and likely can still turn and help you progress.
Based on that info, you want at least 5 L more at minimum otherwise you won't feel much of a difference since you are surfing smaller waves. By that I mean, you already have a Seaside for ok to better condition at 35 L so might as well go minimum 40 L for smaller crappy days you can't ride or don't want to ride the Seaside.
The 5'9 Twice Baked comes in at 42L and is 22.375" wide. That's pretty wide. Almost longboard wide. The next Twice Baked is 5'11" at 45L and is 22.625" wide. I think that is longboard wide. haha
The other option is the Sunday. There isn't one at 40L so you have to go to the next one up which is the 6'4" at 45.11L. That one is 20.75" wide. Above that, is the 6'8" at 48 L and it is 21" wide. As an FYI, I just bought the 6'8 Sunday as a mid-length/funboard. I'll test that one soon.
Looking at this info, you can go with any of these but knowing what I know now about the Sunday, the single fin with side bites have very little drag. It was night and day for me catching waves on the 6'0. watch the videos of me surfing it as a twin vs 1 +2 vs 2 +1. I don't think I even paddled to catch waves. haha
If you don't plan to gouge turn and just want to get in easy and surf down the line with the speed of the wave, the 6'4 Sunday seems like a really fun option. that is 10 L more than what you are on now. It is also narrower which will make it easy to handle but still wide enough to be stable. I used to think I couldn't surf anything over a 5'8 but after surfing the Sunday, I realized the board has a lot to do with it. Anyways, not sure how easy it is to test or try someone elses but for me, with all the fin options, the Sunday has been the funnest board to test so far.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you very much for your time. I was actually considering the Sunday in 6'0 or the TB in 5'7 that comes at just below 39L. I would not be comfortable to go with 3" of thickness for the Sunday 6'4, getting almost impossible to duck in that case. Additional option is to find some last Baked Potato in 5'7 (39.9L) in Helium tech.
@@simonedameliobonelli6759 oh, I see. 40 is my limit for duck diving too. I think the 5'7 TB isn't a good option. The 5'8 Seaside at 35L is helium so that floats more like 37. The TB is too close and you would not grovel any better. Now the 57 Baked if you can get it in helium, that is a great option. closer to that 4L mark I was talking about. In fact, being helium, it will float a tad better. Where would you get that? I tried special ordering a 5'1 Baked in Helium and they told me they couldn't do it. :(
@@ThomyeSurfs a couple of European stockist have something left on the rack. The other consideration I’ve done is that if they come out with a TB in helium could be the right choice considering the 38.6L that in HE will work more like 39-40. What is your feeling about Timbertek? Did you find it good for such a short and wide boards? I love the looks and the thing that it doesn’t get old like, unfortunately, LFT or HE that turn drammatically yellow in a relative short amount of time. My Seaside had a crazy yellow left rail just after 3 months 🤨
Futures makes a little trailer for their Evil Twin set that works in that box and FCS makes a longboard adapter box so you can use any FCS I twin trailer like the MR one.
I just got my FCS adapter in the mail yesterday so I am hoping to try it this weekend. Although the only trailer I had was stubborn to fit in it. I'll have to sand the adapter down. I did order the futures trailer fin just now, thanks for that. I like it cuz you can push it much further back than the fcs adapted version.
@@ThomyeSurfs did you ever ride it with the lil stabilizer or a thruster???
@@waikikiwilly13 stabilizer.
@@ThomyeSurfs how was it?
How chunky are the rails on this? Do chunky rails inhibit you from holding a high line? I’ve been riding over volumed boards and have been wondering if they’ve been holding me back in that respect.
The rails on the 6'0 are not that bad. The board is thicker but the rails drop off really quick and tapers. Relative to a performance board it's definitely fat but relative to other fun boards it's pretty thinned down. A fat rail should not keep you from high lining but it does make it more difficult to set the rail in high speed turns. This particular board is pretty narrow so going toe to heel and setting the rail is actually made easier because of it.
Hi Thomye, do you think you could duck dive the 7' Sunday? or that size will be too much to duck dive. I'm thinking about purchasing the Sunday. Please advise, I will email Firewire to tell them you referred me in the purchase's
No way I can. I am 145lbs. The max for me is around 40 liters. I don think I can dd the 6'4. But weight has a lot to do with it.
Which board do you think will grovel better? A 5'7 Chumlee or a 5'9 Sunday? Greetings from The Netherlands
Hey, sorry for the late response. I was fighting covid around the time you messaged. Anyways, comparing those two specifically, the Chumlee will grovel better. Here's why:
Although the 5'7 roughly 2 litters less than the 5'9 Sunday, the chumlee is shorter which does put the foam more concentrated around the chest. So in terms of litters, not much difference. However, the chumlee is 1" wider which means it will take less speed to get the board planing. Having said that, since I don't know know much about you, it is hard to say which would be better. If you are 140lbs, then the litters will play the biggest factor. If you are 180lbs, then the width will help more. Having said that, the chumlee has a super wide tail, round. I had the 5'3 chumlee many years ago and hated it. compared to my 5'1 Baked Potato, it didn't surf as well. I think if you are a beginner, the chumlee is more stable. If you are intermediate, I think the Sunday would be more fun overall.
Hope that helps.
Quick Question for you Thomye. Just bought a 7'0 Sunday (Futures) and stoked to try it as a twin and single fin. The question (noob), is the center fin box compatible for both FCS 2 Single fins and Futures single fins? I see you set up yours with FCS 2 single (and you have a futures version) but wanted to make sure before buying the Machado FCS 2 Sunday single fin. That's it! Hope you or someone on this thread can give me an answer. Love the channel and the surfing you do. I'm 41 and hope to be half the surfer you are some day. Cheers! 🏄♂️🤙
Yes, the FCS2 single fin will work in most fin boxes whether it is futures, FCS, or generic. The FCS2 single fin fits better in an FCS US Fin box. but having said that, futures and other generic US fin boxes tend to just be a tad deeper below the lock nub so FCS provides soft shims to fill the gap. As you can see from my Sunday, I run the FCS2 fins but the box is Futures. I'm not an expert in single fins so hopefully someone can validate my answer. I think there is a possibility of it not working in some older board, 30 years old that is. but in the Sunday, I don't think you need to worry.
@@ThomyeSurfs Thank you Thomye! Running my 7'0" as a twinny right now and having an absolute blast on it. I can't believe how easily you sink in to the wave on the take off. Can sit in the cobra stance for 5-6 seconds longer than needed which gives extra time to look down the line or change direction. Just pure fun and a lot of speed as a twin. Thanks for your review which lead me to buy this board. Appreciate what you do. Yew!!!
I have a similar board but about 7-8 yo. I use large thruster fins as side fins and a really small center fin. I'd suggest this configuration to anybody with a larger board. Not twin fins!
Mick Fanning recommends smaller fins on larger boards. That's how I came to try this and I think he's right.
agreed. even if you go with twins, go smaller twin fins. I hated the K2 keels on my gofish, didn't have hold for me. I think I was tooo heavy front foot. I loved the taller wider Machado keels on the go fish. On the 6'8 sunday, I was able to use the K2 keels and it worked great. I also bought the harley ingleby thruster set. but they are a tad big as a thruster for the 6'8
This board's outline reminds me of a stretched out Hypto Krypto with a cruiser longboard fins setup. I'd bet the 5'6" will ride totally different. The Sunday would be a more versatile board if they do 4+1 fins set up. Maybe it's marketing. They'll probably release the Sunday 4+1 in summer and call it the Monday. :D
that was my only complaint. no quad option. and yes, this board is different throughout the range. the proportions of the 5'6 is completely different than the 6'0. the 6'4 is really off because it totally bulks up and then it thins out again as you go longer. Super odd sizes. I think the glazer looks more like the hypto to me. this tail is wider. In fact, i was looking at Rob's creeper and this outline matches the Creeper much closer. In any event, the board works really well. I just got m 7" fin so I plan to ride it as a single this weekend. nervous about this for some reason. I suck as singles.
@@ThomyeSurfs Riding it as a single would be fun. I'm terrible on single fin as well. I have to constantly remind myself to lean to turn instead of pressing and driving like we normally do riding other fin setups. I have an EC 5'6" single fin you should try some time. It's a very good single fin if you're into riding single.
@@pullinside9 I think you let me ride it before and I sucked on it. LOL
I would like to see Rob make a fun performance board with a squash tail instead of pins or swallow.
have you ever seen that surfboard where you switch out the tail from pin to squash to diamond. The only issue I see is fin placement but I thought it was a interesting idea. Agreed. You know it has to be coming though. the rebirth of the almond butter and the creation of the butter beyond. haha He shroud have kept that theme and called this the Creeper beyond or Glazer beyond.
@@ThomyeSurfs yes it's a great concept to make a board more versatile.
Get a Pyzel Gremlin or Lost Puddle Jumper. Order clear EPS if you want it to go an authentic yellow in a few months
I was actually looking at the Shadow. after surfing these longer boards, I feel like I want to get back to a performance board.
How is the color holding up on the H2 boards? i heard they stay more white than previous helium models
so far my Mashup and Sunday are as white as the day I got them. At least I think they are. :)
Sick video, though I never had a firewire in my quiver, I'm considering getting one. I'm 5'9 70kg and 49 yo, do you think a 6'0 Sunday would be a good choice?? Also I live in Italy where the waves are usually weak. Thank you in advance 🌊🤙🏽
that's a great choice. I took out my 5'6 Sunday today and didn't much like it. I think I really like the longer rail line of the 6'0. we are almost the same in height and weight so it should go great for you.
@@ThomyeSurfs Thank you Thomye and keep it up!! 🌊🤙🏽
Hello I have the glazer in a 5,5" and find it slow , have you tried the glazer as a twin as my twin fin board is way faster and even catches waves easier than the glazer with less volume , its ok when the waves got more push but still feels slow compared to the twin.
czcams.com/video/56dj_Cp129U/video.html here is my review of the Glazer. I found it boggy and sluggish too but only cuz I wasn't standing on it incorrectly. I was surfing it too far back. I found this issue with the Hypto to. I can't remember if I ever tried it as a twin. I think I did try it as a 2+1. not as good as a thruster but still slow. with the 2+1, back foot a tad forward. as a thruster, further back.
@@ThomyeSurfs yeh thats a good review I have just tried the board with a seaside front fin and a small knubster in the middle and it makes the board feel alot more lively plus has more speed still needs a little more push in the wave but a definate improvement , totally agree with the foot placement too over the front fins works better think thats why its better as a twin , in thruster it feels less reactive with your foot over the front fins.
ET surf shop? Looked like Rob was working on new fish when he did video for the Sunday, gonna wait to get that one.
I saw an Asym he had which looked like 1/2 GoFish and 1/2 Seaside. that one looked super interesting. :)
You might be looking at the Machado Mannkine Mashup
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@@wozandnic OH NO!!!! that is exactly what I was looking for. a slimmer seaside that I could ride around the 5'6 yo 5'8 length. I seriously think Rob has it out for me. I guess i'm telling my daughter she is not going to University. Community College here she comes. LOL :(
Great review! Too me, your turns look quicker and tighter than with the Seaside!
Thanks 👍
how does it compare with the Tur-Twin? Might be tough since they are pretty different sizes
yeah, very tough. If FW would let me borrow at 6'8, then I could make a direct comparison. I think the custom Tur-Twin Pin was 44L and 6'8. The Sunday at 6'8 comes in at 48L. My only fear with the Sunday 6'8 is that not only is it 48L but it is also Helium. Likely, it will float like a 50L board. Might not sit in the water as well as the Tur-Twin Pin I tested. Email rob and have him loan me a board. haha
@@ThomyeSurfs haha I'm sure your going to be getting boards loaned or for free soon. Your reviews are great.
I read your video description which was very helpful. I just bought a 6’4”. What’s your weight? I’m about 180. I don’t expect to have problems duck diving this, even if I hit my target weight of 170-175.
I'm 140 and can duck dive the 6'0 which is 38L. I have found that 38L is my max. Having said that, I don't dd too deep with this board. if I do the math, my weight to volume is .2714 so at your current weight, 180 x .2714 would put you at 48.86L. I think the 6'4 is like 44L so you should be good. Even at 170, that would put you at 46.14L. that is if you are trying to match my weight to my volume. Having said that, I have seen guys duck dive longboards so some degree of technique does help. I am guessing I lack that technique. haha
@@ThomyeSurfs I surfed it yesterday at the tail end of the current swell. First a beach break, then a reef break. I was pretty impressed with it using the Machado Twins, no stab. I was actually head-high, to overhead... and it still held its own. Yeah, I can definitely duck dive it. Mind you, duck diving my 5'6" 34L Quafish is more fun, haha. But paddling the Sunday is MUCH easier. I would still like to get a proper longer mid-lenth... like 6'8" Seaside and Beyond, or Greedy Beaver.
@@DannyCruzCreations I like the seaside and beyond but the 6'8 beyond and the 6' sunday are the same volume believe it or not. so no benefits in terms of paddling. I'm holding out for the Mid6. i think they are releasing a 6'8 and 6'10 version.
anyways, I have the 6' Sunday and the 6'8 Sunday. both are different boards. both are fun for different reason. The 6'8 Sunday is like a longboard to me but love it and plan to keep it in the quiver. My brother has it for now.
@@ThomyeSurfs Thanks for the feedback dude. I'm also looking at the Mid-6. But I want to stay under 7'0" (they already make that one, so it's an option). I may also consider a Greedy Beaver 6'6" 46L or 6'8" 49L. Like you said earlier, 48L or so would put me at the equivalent limit of duck-diving as you. I'm so used to smaller boards, so I'm messing with the idea of see how big I can go while still being able to maneuver it to an extent. I also considered a larger Sunday, like a 6'8", but I would like to have something different to the 6'4" I just bought. So, if not SAB 6'10", then a Mid-6 or a larger Greedy Beaver.
@@ThomyeSurfs BTW, I somehow ended up commenting with this account. But this is my music account. I sub'd to you with my surf/foiling account @foilways. I believe you're in San Clemente area. I've surfed there a couple of times, but it has been years. I'm down in SD area.
Would you say that the 6'4 would surf more like a midlength or more like a shortboard?
a lot of purists might get mad at me but I think it feels more like a mid length at 6'4 than it does a shortboard. Especially if you drop a single fin in it. Also, I'm only 5'8 and 145lbs. I think if you are any taller/bigger person, this statement won't hold true. Having said that, a mid length purist might only consider boards 7' and up true mid lengths. but also, the design. Me, i use the term loosely. When I say mid-length, I more refer it to length. It's not a short board and it's not a long board, so it's a mid. And it surfs lime one, you have to surf it off the tail and rail.
@@ThomyeSurfs Well said!
hello they put sides fins plug how far from tail? and angle? may chack plizz
I will check later tonight if possible and let you know.
I don't have any info for angles but the back edge of the front fins are exactly 9.5 inches from the tail. The back edge of the longboard box is about 4.5 inches. Hope that helps. not sure what that means but it surfs great.
Let me when your trash day is I’ll be there early 👍
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Another great video/surfing
Email ing fire wire right now
the Sunday vs the Seaside if you could only have one groveler?
For my style of surfing which is shortboarding with as much performance I can I have, it would be the seaside. So from my perspective, it would be the 5'3 Seaside up against the shortest Sunday which is 5'6. The seaside in this case is just better and easier. The Sunday gets a tad narrow this short and the rails are way too pinched. Of my 3 Sunday's my 6'0 is my favorite but then because of the length and liters, I lose a bit of performance.
If you gave me a longer San O type wave, I would pick the Sunday. But for my beach break, the Seaside.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you, this iinfo is helpful, I appreciate your input!
I think you’re ready for the 5’6”. It feels like the 6’ is a little too big for you. Good review though. Waves looked fun too 🤙
What part of the world are you Thomye? looks nice..
I'm in Southern California in the United States. The beach I mostly surf is just north of Huntington Beach pier. It's where they hold the Vans US Open of surfing.
@@ThomyeSurfs THANKS MATE, THAT BEACH IS PRISTINE 🤙🤙
@@ThomyeSurfs Hi Tomye this is my local beach in Victoria Australia. Check it out. czcams.com/video/hkCq7qBOPB8/video.html
why was the audio popping at the beginning?
I was trying to use a new remote wireless mic. I have to figure it out. I had more footage where I used the mic but had to ditch the footage cuz the popping was so bad.
How did the board go as a single?
spoiler... super fun. for me personally though, I knew I wouldn't like it as much as a twin but it is still a different type of fun and to be honest, it surprised me.
ALL - VERY IMPORTANT: DO NOT EMAIL Firewire please. I think they are getting too many emails at this point. Thanks for helping out. I really appreciate you guys. 🛑❌🛑❌🛑❌🛑❌🛑❌
Glad I saw this. I was about to send an email lol
@@charleshawk6668 LOL
Thanks for letting us know. I imagine these big brands walk a fine line with social media stuff and keep their customer-facing responses pretty tight. Firewire used to have an active forum, but they shut that down. Looking at their Twitter feed, it's been inactive since 2017 (!) if I'm seeing that correctly. They do use Facebook, though. Thanks for your detailed, honest reviews (and spending $$$ so the rest of us don't have to :) )
@@mattsmith464 I should look into starting a forum page for Firewire fans.
6.10 seaside and beyond timber tek was recent purchase- thanks !
how do you calculate your recommended liters thomye ?
I have been surfing so long that I sort of know how. but the reality is, it all depends on how you want to surf. if you are a beginner, more is better and as you become intermediate, you want to do more maneuvers. at that point, less becomes easier but the issue is, less too soon, hurts your surfing. Think about it this way, is it better to surf 2 decent waves a session and feel like you got some decent maneuvers off, or is it better to catch 10 waves, regardless of how you surfed it.
In my opinion , more waves is more opportunity. So, when I calculate litters, I think about what the board is intended for, and then ask myself how many waves I want to catch.
Quick story. I always surfed bigger boards as a youngster. One day, I swapped with a buddy that surfed a narrower, smaller, performance board. He let me use his board and it felt like I surfed it 2x better. but reality, probably only felt like it and not true. I probably looked like an idiot. I ended up, based on that feeling, buying narrower, smaller boards from that point. in the end, it messed up my surfing. I took 10 huge steps back and due to muscle memory, I have been struggling to this day.
Bottom line, if you are a beginner or intermediate, surf bigger board. it will be better later on.
I'm a very light advanced surfer but I surf 3litters above my recommended litters. that seems to be my sweet spot. I should be on a 24 to 25 litter board but 27 to 29 is what I surf most. mostly because I like the outline and board shape. always use what you are surfing now as a reference.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you brother for you elaborated answer I appreciate it! Keep up with the videos me and a lot of others are enjoying them!
@@RBNK157 this is a good chart to use. but you have to factor in your skill level as well as your wave type. So for me, I think I am somewhere between advanced and adv/inter as far as skill goes. But, my break is more often soft so rather than make things more difficult for myself, I move myself towards the right on the chart. You also have to consider not only the shape and power of the wave, but the size.
www.firewiresurfboards.com/pages/surfboard-volume-calculator
What I have found recently helpful is that whatever size Noel Salas surfs and likes, I like the next size up (bigger). He is bigger than me and 1" taller. But consistently, whatever size he settles on for a board, I have found I like the next one bigger. I'm certain if I surfed lowers, that would be different but at Bolsa, it has made my guess work much easier.
Lastly something that I think the industry recommends incorrectly is fin size. They make you factor in your weight but in my opinion, your weight is the smallest factor to consider. I think wave size and power is more important. A better way to put that is how fast your board will move. Bigger waves = more speed, with speed you want smaller fins. Because, the speed makes your board tighter. Less speed, you want bigger fins so you can generate your own speed by tic tacking.
Anyways, too much to consider at times. Over time though, you start to narrow your preference.
Hi, thank you for the great content, i have bought a CI MID 7" in PU and find it super heavy, so i want to ditch it for a more lightweight board, can you please provide the weight of the board? i know the Helium construction is very light but still i need confirmation before making the purchase, thank you very much!
do you want me to weigh it with our without the fins? let me know. I keep the 6'8 Sunday at my brothers house. I'll weigh it when i go over later today.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you! i'm interested in the weight without the fins.
So I tried weighing it but couldn't get a very accurate reading. The 6'8 Sunday is just under 8 lbs without the fins. If I had to guess, something like 7.8 lbs. If I ever get a better scale, I'll try and weight it again but unfortunately, never thought to weigh it before. BTW, that weight is with wax from nose to tail, so it could be a tad less.
@@ThomyeSurfs thank you again for this :), i have a clear idea now about it, much appreciated!
they should be paying you to do these videos, so much good investment for its brand
Haha. Then it would be more like a promo video.
How do you like the Sunday compared to the Seaside and Beyond?
if we are compared liters only, since the sunday is 38 and S&B is 40 making them really similar, I would say I love the sunday more because it is 8" shorter. Making it perform better and easier to surf in more conditions. But if you factor the length of the board, it changes the way you want to surf it. So, if I bought a 6'8 Sunday and compared it to my 6'8 S&B, I would probably pick the S&B because then, the S&B would be the easier to surf since it is 8 Liters less.
since they are different, if you told me I could only have one board, I would pick the 6'0 Sunday. I just tried it with a 7" single fin and it was super fun and felt super, harder to surf but fun.
If you have to choose between the glazier 5’3” and the Sunday 5’6” ? Which one would be better ..
I would probably go with a 5'6 sunday. But only if you are comparing it to the 5'3 glazer. I think a better comparison would be something like a 5'5 glazer versus the 5'6 Sunday. Then I might pick the glazer only because of the thin setup. I will know better once I try the FCS longboard fin adapter. 100% I would go with the Sunday if Rob had put a quad option in it. It's just occurred to me, I wonder if he left out the quad option because the concaves make the Angles and a depth difficult for another set of fin boxes.
@@ThomyeSurfs ok I just order the Sunday 5’6” can’t wait to try it . I will love to see how would work with a single fin ? Thanks ! And I let them know why I get the Sunday 👍🏻
@@martinvelezmoro7250 nice. let me know. btw, what size single are you going to try? I bought a 7" for my 6'0. not sure if that is too big. it gets delivered in a week. should be interesting. I'll have to film a day where I surf the single, single plus side bites, thruster and 2+1. Usually surf changes too much in a day for that many tries. Anyways, thanks.
I just got my 7" single fin delivered. Hopefully this Saturday I can get it out. Nervous since I suck at surfing singles. I need to go look up some How To's. hehe
@@ThomyeSurfs hHahaha that’s cool ! Can’t wait for the your review on single fin 👍🏻
looks like a Hypto kinda
I surfed the by friends 6'2 Hypto today and then back onto my 6'0" Sunday. They sort of look alike but the widepoint is way more forward on the Hypto. It was interesting to surf them back to back.
I see you wasted no time in snagging one of these off the shelf!
LOL. Yeah, I actually went into the store to buy the Flat Earth but then saw this thing. Then I thought, do I want to be the first few to post a review or the last few. The Flat Earth has been reviewed quite a bit already so I decided to try the Sunday instead, and it was a Sunday. But man it was a hard decision. Between two surf shops, there was a 5'6, 5'9, 6'0, 6'4, 6'8, 7'0 and 7'3 to chose from. I think I could have gone with any and it would have worked fine at their relative height. They all would have surfed different but good I think.
Kinda looks like the hypto
I have had a few people say that but I think the tail is wider relative to the center on the Sunday. To me the Glazer looks more like the Hypto. But it could also be a picture angle thing. I don't own a Hypto so not 100% sure.
You can donate your old boards to me lol 35 lady grommmm :+))
Hopefully someday I can get to a point where I can donate my boards.
Looks heaps longer under your feet than 6’0
yeah, i'm short. haha 5'8 and I have a narrow stance. Wait till you see the 6'8 I tested. that looks really long on me. :)
Seems to have the same plan shape as the hypto krypto!
super similar. a little wider in the tail but generally speaking similar outlines. I do like the longboard fin box of the Sunday but hate the fact it doesn't have a quad option. I noticed that some Hyptos have 5 fin option but no longboard fin box. At first I thought, nah, who wants that, but after my last outing as a single, I'm glad he went this route. I just can't get over the no quad option though. :(
@@ThomyeSurfs what’s your favorite machado model?
@@tl1777 it has been the seaside of all time, but maybe cuz i'm getting older and I need to mix things up, the Sunday is slowly taking it's spot. The only way I can measure/verify this is that even when I'm not filming, I choose the 6'0 Sunday.
It’s looks way too big for you and personally it doesn’t look suited for twin setup. Great review!🤟🏼
yeah, it definitely is above my liter range and size. I think the 5'6 would be a nice permanent fit. It would be interesting to compare it to my 5'6 lineup: El Tomo fish, Neckbeard2, and my Modern2. Battle of the 5'6". I wish firewire still did demo days or a demo locker of some sort. Like Amazon lockers. You pay, got pick it up near the beach surf it and then put it back. :) that would be interesting.
Bro your board looks a foot and a half too big get a 5'5" and i swear you'd rip hard🤙
haha, yeah. The HK is borrowed. I have a 5'6 and it works better but you are probably right, 5'5 would be ideal.
@@ThomyeSurfs I don't know how you turned it bruv but you still ripped on the big one✌️🏄🤙 yeeeewwww!!!
I have to say if you want deals from firewire then complaining about the high price on your review video isnt super helpful just in my opinion
Lol. You are probably right
but now that I think about it, I'm not sure I would have ever said, they are "too" expensive. I think I say they are expensive and I can't afford to keep buying them. Cuz I truly believe they are a better value than a $600 poly. They are stronger, they don't pressure, and they last longer. Which is why I started buying them 10 years ago and haven't really bought anything since. Compare that to my spineteck neckbeard 2. same price but that board is dented up like a golf ball. which makes me more sick to my stomach. I can't even sell it unless I'm prepared to lose a crap ton of money on it. but you make a solid point. I need to be careful how I come off. :) thanks bro