Fixing Germany the Nuclear way in Democracy 4
Vložit
- čas přidán 12. 01. 2022
- This video is sponsored by Democracy 4. Check the game out on Steam by following this link: store.steampowered.com/app/14...
It helps the channel! Links to other stores and the game website below, choose your favourite:
Game Website: www.positech.co.uk/democracy4
Epic Store: www.epicgames.com/store/en-US...
GOG: www.gog.com/game/democracy_4
Humble Store: www.humblebundle.com/store/de...
Democracy 4 is a politician simulator. Do whatever it takes to get more power and be re-elected. The complexity of the siumulation is astounding, do make sure to check it out.
#Democracy
#Taureor
#GrandStrategy - Hry
This video is sponsored by Democracy 4. Check the game out on Steam by following this link: store.steampowered.com/app/1410710?
That's cool you're trying new things. Perhaps play some EU4, just like you've done in the past?
Wow... This game is amazing! It reminds me a lot of another game I play, NationStates. I hope too see more amazing content from you, as always, love to you you and your amazing son 😁
I loved Democracy 3! If you enjoyed it I'll give it a shot! Keep up the great work Taureor!
Thank you for aknowloding that the german government is incompetent. (Words of a german)
what do you think about hydraulic energy. Isn´t that better than atomic energy?
"Alot of people are abusing alcohol, poor alcohol". The dad jokes are through the roof
George Carlin: words you will never hear, "Dad you really should drink more"
To be fair, he is a dad
The dad jokes are at full power.
@@stevemd6488 "please dad you're dieing of dehydration you need to drink more"
Poor roof.
At 9:55 a neighbor tests a nuclear missile, and it is stated that they are isolationist, this can only mean one thing.
The Swiss are up to something.
ye
its time to invade Switzerland
I think its the british
@@jayman1772 The British? Isolationist?
Belarus duh
"We are the new chancellor of Germany and my aim is to be chancellor for life"
Oh no...
Oh no
Um has the certain man got a small moustache
Not again!
Everyone’s going for the dripler reference but uhh, Napoleon Bonaparte anyone?
@@EndoClaw Boney wasnt chancellor for life though
German government: *Does something Taureor doesn’t like*
Taureor: “Fine, I’ll do it myself.”
Everyone thought the "Staring At a Map for Hours" Game was boring enough, wait till they see this game. It doesn't even have a map in it!
You know its just a game when germany decided to use nuclear energy over coal
cries in german citizen
The most insane thing about it is that it was a conservative government that never run on the subject but once again, kept with its populist tendencies to just get re-elected.
Taureor: You have to slightly nudge stuff a little bit.
Also Taureor: _sets policy spendings to maximum or cancels them completely_
“I actually enjoyed it quite a lot to the point I think I might want to pursue a career in politics. I’m joking of course, I’m not good enough lier for that” as a political studies student I love this joke xD
Challange: Make it in politics without lying.
@@eisbergsyndrom5010 Somehow involves shadow puppeting china.
@@JohnSmiffer and Anschlussing Austria by using the focus tree and restoring the Kaiserreich
Edit: I think you can’t do it anymore sadly
@@unskilledwarthunderplayer4011 yeah the exploit was patched
2:09 I really feel your rant. I’m Austrian and constantly watch German news. The view that nuclear power is bad is widespread.
It makes me feel a bit hopeless and glum everytime I (try to) explain nuclear power to friends.
The most basic knowledge already helps fighting the knowledge gap. The more people know the higher the chances people would finally start discussing and reevaluating that topic again.
Recently in Spain (and hispanic community in general) the topic of nuclear energy is starting to get discussed and people are more and more positive about it. I hope this ends up spreading to other countries and communities and we can finally do somenthing about nuclear energy
Well I'm from Germany and I'm also annoyed, that not just the government, but most of the media is against nuclear power, if you compare german power CO2 emmisons to french ones, it clearly shows, that without nuclear power CO2 emmisons will stay high, because renewable power will take a long time, which is also because many citizens are against windparks near their towns. So instead of choosing nuclear power, we choose coal power, which is one of the worst kind of energy source, like "Datteln 4". I would rather have tons of radioactive waste deep in the ground, then thousands of tons of CO2 in the air, killing our climate
The view for "nuclear bad" is because incidets in Chernobyl and Fukushima, first being just soviet way of doing things and latter facing way bigger earthquake and tsunami than it was ever planned to get hit. And with fukushima it even hold itself against that earthquake that was "over" it's supposed limit to hold. But you know, nuclear bad because that small chance of failure that causes bad stuff.
Also we in Finland just got the most expensive reactor in the world running (Olkiluoto 3) and it will get connected to power grid this year I think.
@@tims.8184
Fully agree. I can't believe people can't see that if they are not comfortable enough to invest into wind, do not have enough oppertunities to invest into water and solar power is as of yet to inefficient to profit from on a large scale, people will simply go back to the simplest, most primitive but at least executable methods. Burning shit, and using steam. 60% of energy gets lost due to heat!
It's a terrible alternative!
Nuclear energy would be something that would please both enviromentalists and economists if execuded correctly!
@@ReijoRitari
Couldn't agree more!
Finlanf's solution also came to my mind an is one of my most important convcing points.
Another would be that South Korea has developed a reactor that is more efficient, less accident-prone and generates less nuclear waste. My father knows more about that than me, but I still remember the conversation that I had with him about that.
take this with a grain of salt, but from what I heard:
The research of the reactor, as far as I remember was not further looked into by the US because they realized they wouldn't get their hands on plutonium, Otherwise the US would've had it before South Korea.
(though don't quote my father on that. Don't even associate this with him. It is just something an engineer told his kid, 6 years ago)
"Germany has no neutral isolationist neighbours"
Switzerland: (:
as one of the 5 people in germany who thinks that nuclear power is the way to go, this video made me happy :D
I don't recall majority of ordinary working class people being against it. I heard a lot of people saying that renewables are better(and they are).
The only people fully against nuclear are people profiting from russian gas sales, who pay a lot for propaganda campaigns.
@@TheArklyte Not sure, renewables are inefficient in many ways, and require materials that aren't renewable. And less space is needed for nuclear.
Are there only five of us? I bet you there are more. At least 10 :D
Well well well my friends, there are only 5 people in germany who think nuclear power is the way to go, but I see 6 of us (you included) who share this opinion. One must be a spy.
@@pushingboundariesyt will you install full blown powerplant for the sake of small village on an island? Or maybe install 100km of power relays specifically for them?
Renewables are available energy. If you prefer russian gas, it's your preference
Wait, I thought you owned Democracy 4 for a long time already. Glad you found out about it!
I only found out about it when they contacted me, but I like it quite a lot
@@Taureor
That explains why I never saw a Video about it up until now. I remember that at one point in one of your older videos you mentioned that in Hoi4 the fighting wasn’t as interesting for you as the political aspect of the game
@@Taureor Are you planning to make more Democracy 4 videos? I think they're quite enjoyable to watch
@@hunter_noah Watching Quill18, Pravus and a couple others, this was my favorite video on this game.
@@hunter_noah dont think so the only reason he played it is because it's sponsored.
Finally, Germany brings back nuclear energy
about time
yes
@Ska Boo Thats true but what do you do with the nuclear waste? Its 100% true that the production of nuclear energy is clean, but where do you put the nuclear waste? Thats the problem with it
@@tophatowl6724 Nuclear waste is very-very compact. It's not a problem at all.
@@1kvolt1978 It really doesnt matter how compact it is, it matters that its extremely dangerous and remains dangerous (and polluting depending on where you store it) for 1000s of years. So yea, actually, it is a problem
I think it is fucking HILLARIOUS that the slider for nuclear both makes environmentalists upset.... WHILE DECREASING CO2 EMISSIONS. Really demonstrates how ignorant being anti-nuclear is.
When you built a nuclear power plant, you need a lot of cement and concrete. Also the waste is still toxic. Well we will bury it just deep enough. But this waste can pollute the water. Do you really think the gouvernment will spend more money than necessary to keep a power plant running? They probably put the waste in some old mines and then never care again about it. Yes I think it could be a part time solution, but it is expensive and there is still the danger, that some radioactive stuff will break out
@@narackanick CO2 emissions during construction are nothing compared to the output of any fossil fuel plant. The waste is not a big issue either. Literally. A nuclear plant requires only 27 tonnes of fuel a year. A coal plant uses *9000 tonnes* per day!! Furthermore a single coal plant produces 240,000 tons of toxic waste a year as well!! Would you rather deal with 27 tonnes of nuclear waste or *240,000* tons of toxic waste?
In the end, there is just no excuse for not using nuclear!
@@samueljames0908 Can't a lot of waste be recycled now anyway?
@@DrewPicklesTheDark only in newest reactors. Then you can reuse nuclear waste as a normal fuel but in old ones it's ineffective
@@szimel397 Alright, that would make sense, but it leaves the question. Why not upgrade/create new reactors then? Is it merely a cost thing? I can at least understand from the government's PoV if they have an aversion to it due to costs, at which point it would be hypocritical to claim it's pollution. This could be a great PR for the Germans if they framed themselves as switching to "Clean nuclear with recyclable waste.". But I'm not some expert on the topic so there are probably issues I am unaware of. If it is about money though, I would have preferred they just said that instead of the environmental excuse.
Oh boy, as a German I can totally feel your pain. Whenever the topic comes up and I tell people that I am in favor of nuclear power, I always get to hear "Chernobyl this" and "Fukushima that" and it's so frustrating. Unfortunately the fact is that the public opinion of nuclear power here is defined by that.
Well its rather obvious that it is defined by that though the green party is the most vocal party so people only hear the bad stuff (which is not wrong by the way) however that makes them disregard the good parts
Das versteht die andere Seite wieder nicht!
Es geht nur teilweise um Chernobyl oder Fukushima - viel mehr geht es um die Endlager. Kein Endlager ist sicher und oftmals tritt auch Strahlung aus. Noch dazu verseuchen diese Lager unser Essen und unser Grundwasser - also ich glaube nicht dass du gerne in der Nähe eines solchen Lagers oder eines AKWs leben würdest!
Wenn der Müll dann von Deutschland nach Australien gebracht wird, erzeugt man auch wieder unzählige Emissionen
@@thecrazymushr0om570 Jupp.
Both of these catastrophies were rooted in human errors. In Chernobyl they messed up a safety drill or something in the worst way possible IIRC and Fukushima was one of the oldest and not very well maintained or controlled plants in the whole of Japan that was scheduled to be shut down a few months later. Also the earthquake there was pretty strong so yeah.
The real problem with nuclear plants is what to do with the created waste and we don't have any good solutions for that.
The best way to do deal with the impact of power creation on the environment would be to produce less. But that would require people to consume less. Fat chance.
Your government lobbies against nuclear in the EU to sell us gas. Unfortunately, looks like that's what they're trying to do.
Hello Taureor, I really liked your video. As a french citizen (as you probably know, France is very Pro-Nuclear) I have to say that I am horrified and upset when I read or hear about german news, like when they replace their nuclear power plants with coal plants and then buy electricity and gas from Russia while accusing France to be polluting. The german ecologists picked the wrong fight here.
quand on mettra une paire d'EPR2 à fessenheim, ils seront contents ^^
I actually visited a nuclear plant in France once, but what I remember about it most is that you guys make amazing food
@@Taureor Dziękuje za komplement. I am glad you enjoyed the food.
@@Taureor amazing you had the chance to visit us.
which one ?
I don't remember, it was near Montpellier I think
When i saw "Fixing Germany the Nuclear Way" I thought you would nuke the shit out of Germany, still this is quite a good video!
"Because the German government has annoyed me recently." Polish-German relations since the beginning of time.
And damn, super based on the nuclear power question. I was in shock when I heard the news Germany was shutting them down.
Honestly, I wasn't, that's the most German thing ever. Their hatred for Nuclear Power is just insane, especially whe presented with facts that don't align with their worldview
Just to say, the German government already tried several times to weaponize the EU court to sue France and derail the power generation of the country (notably by making the main government owned energy conglomerate be broken up and have the country forcefully opened up to foreign companies, that was in the 90's) because they couldn't tolerate a country that relies on nuclear power, ESPECIALLY when said country has a much much cheaper energy than they do and which can create, god forbid, competition. The Germans have hated nuclear power for a long time and have constantly been doubling down on their bad takes, and the consequences have been very clear over the last few months where Germany has had a tremendous spike in energy price whereas France had a much much smaller one. At this point it doesn't even matter if you tell them they are wrong, they'll die on this hill
Just found out that there's at least two more germans who approve of nuclear. Feels great to not be totally alone.
Make it three
@@prestonfarhat7368 four*
I approve of nuclear power despite not being German
Und meine Axt.
"I have some morals" There, you are disqualified as politician :D
4 minutes in and "we have to fix the budget" you are already better at this than every politican in the USA.
21:04 "Don't buy things you can't afford. [...] The only loan I have taken was to get the house."
Cries in American college student.
there are special positive events you can get in this game, I'm pretty sure you can make your country be a space race, you can discover fusion power. Lots of things are fun, you can go to war as well by just putting everything into military. There's a lot you can do can your narration is amazing and democracy 4 provides variety! I would say that you should do more videos of this game if you feel like it :)
Seeing "Nuclear way", I thought it would involve explosions and tanks, but it's okay...
Depending on how well he maintains those plants, explosions might still occur. Although it's incredibly difficult to get a modern reactor to explode.
Wait, you are actually caring about debt?
Most of
governments: "No, this isn't how you're supposed to play the game"
“there’s 13% religious people in my country, and it’s going down thanks to education” damn what a burn 😎
he really roasted imaginary people in the game😎
9:56 My headcannon is that the UK was testing nukes in the north sea
Taureor, you might like to check out Ostalgie and Suzereign. Two other great political sims.
Devs of the former one also have made Crisis in Kremlin remake and Mao's Legacy, but those games are a bit rough in their controls and visuals.
The Suzereign has more personal approach with you actually having a playable character.
Yeah, i played Suzerain, and it is a golden experience, it is hard and tricky, words have a lot of power in suzerain.
@@zagreus1249 ah, so that's how it's pronounced. Couldn't recall it and forgot to search afterwards.
Yeah. It has something that Democracy series and other games I've mentioned lack - that RPG element. It's basically CK of political sims. You're not an incorporeal force controlling whole country and all its systems with your mind and having perfect feedback and info, but instead a literal guy in charge. Whom no one respects:(
@@TheArklyte
Yeah i do agree with you, an RPG element might be something like a cherry on the cake you know. Would give some life to a political sim.
Yes Nuclear Fission is CO2 neutral and fairly safe but the question where to put the waste + the enormous water use are still very real problems. Additionally there is a very finite amount of Uranium in the world, none of it being in Germany, especially so with multiple countries moving to nuclear. Thorium reactors would be an option though.
I live in Canada, there has been a lot of debate over the years as the region I live in is one of the biggest oil producers, the uranium is here, and it can be extracted, we just need the demand, nuclear waste can be disposed of safely if given proper preparation
@@MyName-lq7rv Now I don't endorse coal whatsoever BUT our current coal reserves are estimated at 35,9 billion tons of coal. In the following I take the 107 million tons of coal mined in Germany (yearly) + the highest import of additional 57 million tons documented in 2014 and combine them to an annual need of about 160 million tons.
Now keep in mind this presupposes that we wouldn't export any coal at all and ignores any advancements in the renewable sector and is much higher than what would be the actual consumption in the decades to come.
-> With this figure of a 160.000.000 tons of coal used per year our current reserves would last for approximately 224,375 years.
Things I didn't account for would also be the large gas industry in northern Germany. So no there is a very slim chance of fossil fuels running out in my lifetime. But then again it's not something I'd like to see anyway as they are better used for the production of plastics rather then transport/energy.
Edit: Not as favourable numbers for gas with the reserves just lasting about 11 years though. For context our energy comes from coal (25%), gas (14%), nuclear (12%) and the rest renewables.
I love this. This is one of my favorite videos that you’ve done. Please do more democracy 4!
Nice, now I can do paper work after doing paper work all day. Thanks Democracy 4 dev team!
I feel like this is a great change of pace from HOI4, I would definitely watch more videos, especially if they're a continuation to this one
"You can print more money, effectively eroding the savings of the middle class with inflation"
*Screams in Turkish"
p.s.: really liked the video and would love to watch Suzerain etc. playthrough from you as well.
Even tho there are some disagreements between us, it was a blast watching u, hoping for more!
This was actually really enjoyable to watch. Would definitely love more!
That was an unexpected and great video. Thanks Taureor!
Great video! This game looks really cool, I am definitely interested in seeing more.
You should definitely do more like this, loved it!
This was a good video, and yes please do more! I am interested in what goals you want to do next.
So many hot takes! This was a fun video and I for one would like to see more. It would be fun to see your specific take on min-maxing and gaming the system, and maybe even fine a new way to execute Order 62.
super huge fan of this game, from all the other people ive seen play it, id love to see more of you playing this, with wilder objectives
This was great, I'd love to see more of this game, it really suits your video style too!
I love your view on democracy and I am actually amazed, your thinking is spectacular. Great video! Keep it up!
Yessssss Democracy 4 is my favourite game i'm happy you are playing it!
"Either you say Nuclear energy is bad for Russians gas corporations or I turn off the gas.. for good!"
-Russia with their hand on the vault turning it off slowly
This video was awesome please make more Democracy 4 content!
Taureor i would be more then happy to watch a channel run by you about energy and nuclear power.
I've enjoyed this video a lot. A nice deviation from your typical HOI4 content. Also, you've mentioned once that you enjoy the politics in games (namely HOI4) so I'm a little surprised you didn't play Democracy earlier. Regardless, it was enjoyable to watch and I'd love to see more videos like this. Have a good day Taureor :)
Instant like when you talked about Nuclear Energy, thanks Taureor!
“i should become a politician i’m not too old, but i do have morals” 💀💀 taking every shot he has at politicians i love him sm
Taureor, you need to fix America and make it a dictatorship, the game is really golden and I’m sure we’re all happy that you played the game!
I really enjoyed this video and would love to see you play more of it. :)
Bought the game from your link after watching the video. Fumbled through my first term but still got re-elected! Fun game.
It is :) considering making more videos
This is great please keep playing this game！
I like Taureor so I would have watched anyway, but I'm also passionate about nuclear power as the best way to bridge the gap between current fossil fuel use and whatever long term clean energy ends up being developed. This video is pleasing to me on so many axes.
I'd actually be interested to see videos where you share your insights about nuclear, state the pros and cons, stuff like that
Great video, would love to see more of D4!
Honestly this game is very entertaining to watch. I would like u to mix some of this and hoi 4 :)
This is one of those games I wouldn’t play myself but I love watching other people play it. I would love it if you played this again
This has been one of my favorite games for a while now but i havent found an extensive streaming community. Seeing this video was amazing! I'd love to see more if you're willing! (EDIT: realized I was on Democracy 3, thought it looked like it had an update! But still, love it!)
I would love to see more of this!
Cool video! Would like to see more Democracy 4 gameplay from you.
Please do more videos like this please!
I’d love to see more!
I love democracy 4 please keep playing it
Very cool video. Seeing new content than just HOI4
play more democracy! Loved watching your playthrough
I´d love to see more of you playing it. I like it myself. Took Germany on an environmentalist technocratic route. It was fun :D And all the rich hated me to death lol
Fucking the rich always feels good.
@@karlthorsten9118 I don't like death penalties but it Is hilarious and Germany could use such a penalty really well :D
@@karlthorsten9118 the only death penalty I support
great video, will check out the game
I could go for a video of Taureor explaining nuclear energy, i've always supported it alongside other renewable energy.
Just posting that I love your nuclear power stance !
never thought i'd see taureor playing democracy
Democracy 4 aside, im actually glad we share the same viewpoint on nuclear power. It seems to have an awful stigma, despite being one of the main forms of clean energy available to combat pollution and dirty energy. I hope thorium nuclear reactors are looked into more in depth in the near future.
I would love to see more democracy 4 content
More vids like this please!
Enjoyed the video, would like to see some other countries.
Nicee. Great to see you playing a game other than hoi4 again
Thanks!
please play more of this on the channel.
I like that you're playing more games then just hoi4
damn the nuclear power thing wasn't what I was expecting but I am pleasantly surprised that you said that, it is really annoying that they're honing in on a complete non-issue
Big fan of the views and the video
You should make a searies out of this game,its so entertaining lol
I have the same opition about nuclear power and i have always found it frustrating that it is being fazed out.
more democracy 4! love this game.
More democracy 4 please!
You may be right that nuclear energy is very clean but that's only in the short term. Storing all that waste in the long term is an unsolved problem and quite expensive. When you add the fact that building a nuclear power plant isn't exactly cheap or fast as well, it doesn't look so good.
The legal drinking age in Germany is staggered. 16 for "weak" alcohol like beer or wine and a 18 for stronger stuff.
Storing the waste is an easier problem than trying to store the pollution from coal or gas or storing the byproducts from Solar panel chemicals
@@rowbot5555 yeah just dump all radioactive waste into 3rd world countries🥰🥰😍
there are reactors in the modern age that recycle waste
It's rare when you upload bc it is high quality content :)
thank you
thank you taureor very nice, I will bring back golden dawn in greece now
This was surprisingly fun indeed. I’d happily live in your country if you were to start one.
I'd love to see more of this game done by you so even if they arent paying you to play the game can we start seeing some more of this occasionally
Enjoyed this play through. Have you thought of making Canada a dictatorship in your next play through?
Actually have had this game in my library for a while but barely played it since I have too little time to pick it up and pure laziness. Maybe I'll start playing it now.
So glad Taureor knows what he's talking about with Nuclear Energy. Actually incredibly refreshing to see someone I watch on CZcams know what they are talking about.
He doesn't know that gun control doesn't decrease crime rates tho. Still a refreshing view on nuclear energy!
This was a brave video to make.
yea how brave im sure there are a lot of right wing conservatives watching this video
I'm glad to see a lot of strategy gamers playing this game (even if it is sponsored)
Cool game!!! i think you should play more
Danke!
really nice play more pls