I mean, I can understand why they changed it, doesn't exactly fit with the rest of the album, but still doesn't change the fact it sounds god damn amazing
right? this is great but i really cant look at people who call this "the better version" with a straight face. if you prefer the demo version then you never liked fate of the stars for what it set out to do imo FOTS is good because it's found an impossible balance between spacey, fast-paced, and dramatic while having a chillingly calming outro. it's the only song with the spacey "sad music" vibe that i can listen to and choose not to feel the sadness because it's so good at being multiple things at once, and then be comforted by the ending anyways.
[First Movement] [Verse 1] To leave from this tale, follow closely ahead Prepare to exist by the living & dead Too slow or too kind or too wary of those too at ease Past all the buried impressions of then Sullen drawn eyes and expressions to mend Continued through mirrors left broken to sing and be heard Through when it seems all the senses are lost to absurd [Chorus] So the part where we are Trapped in active depart In the fate of the stars No, not one who we are No control pumping heart Button pressed mind in art Mind control, mind restart [Verse 2] To leave from the present with no source of sound They laugh because silence is never around Ignored and forgotten, the past may continue to breathe Feared not a rest by this desolate friend Whose patience revealed what intent comes to send With a stare at a hole in the world comes a lust to be high Above all the dark nested clouds that keep guard of the sky [Chorus] So the part where we are Trapped in active depart In the fate of the stars No, not one who we are No control pumping heart Button pressed mind in art Mind control, mind restart [Second Movement] [Bridge] Step onto the Ferris wheel Round for day and night Lost in what's forever more Complacent in its reasons for Give & take & sleep & wake & Pray for day & night to come Again, we see there's certainty in What we feel and what we've heard Again, we see there's certainty in Expectations all the same
2:50 and on sounds better than the finished version but the rest is worse cuz of that sound that keeps on playing in the background it hurts my head, also they don't go "in the fate of the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars"
@@robertcajucom3203 ooooh you right. now that's interesting. makes me think about how much more bits and melodies they have that ended up on different songs
@@tally_hal i wanna make a version of this song and dream in sea major It would be a cluster of 100 different things but it would be cool transitions Maybe the finished fate of the stars as a bridge
Am I going crazy or does Andrew sing ‘fall down’ right at the very end of the song (after expectations all the same)? Also I cannot express how much I adore both versions of this song. Wish there was a live version.
the band did in fact play this song live EXACTLY one time (back when the song was called "mind control"). there's only one surviving recording of it (its fairly low quality and it doesn't cover the entire song) but here's a link to it if you still care!!!! czcams.com/video/v26zg6pRoHg/video.html
The final version of this song is my favorite song ever, but I always love hearing these demos. I noticed that the instrumental interlude at around the halfway point is totally different, and way shorter than what ended up in the final song - I’d love to hear a longer version of that though 👀
(I made a grammar mistake, so I’m reposting my comment) I’d like to give my critique of this demo: Positives: Everything from @ to the end sounds superior to the final version (especially the piano part), albeit needing some cleanup. Negatives: Having only Andrew do the vocals, which I think the final version improved on (not saying Andrew isn’t a good vocalist, but I don’t think his voice is good for the beginning part of FotS), and this version having less of the heavy vibe of the final version. Overall, good version of the song with some things that are better than what we got on Good & Evil, but I would never replace the final version with this. Someone should probably do a mix of this & the final FotS, to combine both of their sounds (I hope someone does that, cause it will be a guaranteed bop).
For some reason the I time signature was replaced by an @ symbol (probably due to an error during the copy & paste), so here the time signature I was trying to type: 2:45
Lyrics (the person before me couldn’t select the demos lyrics) Movement] [Verse 1] To leave from this tale, follow closely ahead Prepare to exist by the living & dead Too slow or too kind or too wary of those too at ease Past all the buried impressions of then Sullen drawn eyes and expressions to mend Continued through mirrors left broken to sing and be heard Through when it seems all the senses are lost to absurd Chorus] So the part where we are Trapped in active depart In the fatе of the stars No, not one who we arе No control pumping heart Button pressed mind in art Mind control, mind restart Verse 2] To leave from the present with no source of sound They laugh because silence is never around Ignored and forgotten, the past may continue to breathe Feared not a rest by this desolate friend Whose patience revealed what intent comes to send With a stare at a hole in the world comes a lust to be high Above all the dark nested clouds that keep guard of the sky Chorus] So the part where we are Trapped in active depart In the fate of the stars No, not one who we are No control pumping heart Button pressed mind in art Mind control, mind restart Bridge] Step onto the Ferris wheel Round for day and night Lost in what's forever more Complacent in its reasons for Give & take & sleep & wake & Pray for day & night to come Again, we see there's certainty in What we feel and what we've heard Again, we see there's certainty in Expectations all the same
Can I be honest? I don't like when Andrew sings. I love his writing, love his songs, but I'm GLAD that the version we got didn't have him singing. (At least for the main part of the song)
I mean, I can understand why they changed it, doesn't exactly fit with the rest of the album, but still doesn't change the fact it sounds god damn amazing
I would have loved that distinctness though... The variety still sounds amazing.
lets be honest none of the songs fit with the rest of the album
How can these men craft such beautiful, layered, poetic, and perfect music and then just dip 😔
Cojum Dip
cringe fan base
@@tally_hal This was long before their songs got big on tiktok and things like that. Besides, I don't think they're as cynical you are.
@@noahmay7708 cringe fan base
@@tally_hal true...
Doesn’t feel depressing enough. 7.8/10
I don't think the other one is that depressing
It's monstrous, but not quite depressing... Idk
THIS IS A CARNIVAL
This is like the good ending of Fate of the Stars
you defeated marvin and stopped his mechanical museum!
good end
@@mio7283 it's good and evil
@@Coristic121 i’m aware of that but there aren’t really “characters” in good and evil
@@krowta2062 big bad betty of the pocolyplse
I love how Andrew sang this one!
andrew supremacy!!!
@@tally_hal how often do you watch these I swear I can find your comment for every month
I do not love how andrew sang this one
@@tally_hal omg it tally hal
@@tally_hal omg it tally hal
I feel like I just stumbled upon an alternative universe where this song was meant for MMMM.
Pov: you are listening to "fate of the stars" by tally hall but your pokemon has low health
You're listening to "fate of the stars" by tally hall but your on final lap in mariokart
As soon as Andrew started singing I was like “It’s Andrew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
The Fate of the Stars we got was much more beautiful than this, it's still good though.
right? this is great but i really cant look at people who call this "the better version" with a straight face. if you prefer the demo version then you never liked fate of the stars for what it set out to do imo
FOTS is good because it's found an impossible balance between spacey, fast-paced, and dramatic while having a chillingly calming outro. it's the only song with the spacey "sad music" vibe that i can listen to and choose not to feel the sadness because it's so good at being multiple things at once, and then be comforted by the ending anyways.
hello mari.
@@peenwald8852I’ve grown to like Andrew’s voice but it just doesn’t fit in 2/3 of this song.
Yeah like i prefer this one in general but the official one just fits so much better into the album and has a way different feeling
@@sunny-xc8hxstairs.
just turn every instrument into andrew’s keyboard and bam! you have an edu song.
yeh, that's how it generally works
somehow i remembered this in the middle of the night
when 2:45 suddenly hits you in the middle of the night
yeah i feel you homie
it’s 4 am right now so yeah I feel you
maybe in the night i remember this too
i love how the demos always sound as good as the actual songs do
i want to marry this song
gosh i love how andrew sings, his voice is absolutely adorable and amazing
This sounds like another song I know but different... ill be back when I find it.
Nvm it’s this song
yes tally hall indeed sounds like tally hall
omg it @@tally_hal
Hahah I do the same its okay, I forget a lot lol!
yeah thats kind of what demos are
[First Movement]
[Verse 1]
To leave from this tale, follow closely ahead
Prepare to exist by the living & dead
Too slow or too kind or too wary of those too at ease
Past all the buried impressions of then
Sullen drawn eyes and expressions to mend
Continued through mirrors left broken to sing and be heard
Through when it seems all the senses are lost to absurd
[Chorus]
So the part where we are
Trapped in active depart
In the fate of the stars
No, not one who we are
No control pumping heart
Button pressed mind in art
Mind control, mind restart
[Verse 2]
To leave from the present with no source of sound
They laugh because silence is never around
Ignored and forgotten, the past may continue to breathe
Feared not a rest by this desolate friend
Whose patience revealed what intent comes to send
With a stare at a hole in the world comes a lust to be high
Above all the dark nested clouds that keep guard of the sky
[Chorus]
So the part where we are
Trapped in active depart
In the fate of the stars
No, not one who we are
No control pumping heart
Button pressed mind in art
Mind control, mind restart
[Second Movement]
[Bridge]
Step onto the Ferris wheel
Round for day and night
Lost in what's forever more
Complacent in its reasons for
Give & take & sleep & wake &
Pray for day & night to come
Again, we see there's certainty in
What we feel and what we've heard
Again, we see there's certainty in
Expectations all the same
Boy, you're a legend
This was pretty much the band's final musical send off, cool how it evolved
i have returned once again to listen to this banger of a song
hi @@wilescard
and a banger it is, my friend
Return again
@@bowgart683 hi, thanks for reminding me
I saw you a few times and ur pfp never fails to crack me up 💀
3:01 Super paper Mario vibes
2:50 and on sounds better than the finished version but the rest is worse cuz of that sound that keeps on playing in the background it hurts my head, also they don't go "in the fate of the staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars"
The demo version of Tally Hall’s final song on Good & Evil. this version differs by the tempo and the lead singer, being Andrew only
They performed this version live
This feels like if the song was made for MMMM, would absolutely fit! And another Andrew song is always appreciated!
electro organ is a pretty aight, but I like the finished product more
i especially love 2:45
@@tally_hal Be cool if they cut that part out and used it in a future work like how the opening for the bidding was originally from spring and a storm
@@robertcajucom3203 ooooh you right. now that's interesting. makes me think about how much more bits and melodies they have that ended up on different songs
@@tally_hal i wanna make a version of this song and dream in sea major
It would be a cluster of 100 different things but it would be cool transitions
Maybe the finished fate of the stars as a bridge
this sounds boppier and less depressing
but holy fuck i love 2:45 so much
I like the more electronic noise sounding part of 3:02
Disappointed that it wasn't in the Good and Evil version.
i swear to god this man comments on every tally hall video in existence, i see him everywhere I go!
Am I going crazy or does Andrew sing ‘fall down’ right at the very end of the song (after expectations all the same)? Also I cannot express how much I adore both versions of this song. Wish there was a live version.
you are not going crazy
a live version would have been difficult. the official release in g&e is 6min+ and has different segments.
@@adjunctprofessor2749 not impossible, just more hassle than it's worth.
the band did in fact play this song live EXACTLY one time (back when the song was called "mind control"). there's only one surviving recording of it (its fairly low quality and it doesn't cover the entire song) but here's a link to it if you still care!!!! czcams.com/video/v26zg6pRoHg/video.html
@@tunderbuilder114 you legend! That’s brilliant thanks.
Thanks for the upload, you are a true hero of this modern age.
Sounds like something from Marvin’s marvelous mechanical museum then something from Good&Evil
GRAAAAAHHHHHH I LOVE ANDREWWWWW FUNNY GREEN MAN
Ok so this would have worked more on mmmm if they kept it like this
sounds like it was originally intended for MMMM but the lyrics are extremely unfitting for that album so maybe not
The final version of this song is my favorite song ever, but I always love hearing these demos. I noticed that the instrumental interlude at around the halfway point is totally different, and way shorter than what ended up in the final song - I’d love to hear a longer version of that though 👀
Huh. Andrew sang this. That's a suprise.
he wrote it!!!
@@st4nley I mean I didn't get to hear his voice often, same with Ross. The only time i remembered him singing was in You, and The Whole World and You.
O5- • you should check out his album sketches if you want more!! He sang you in the good&evil album too
I could definitely tell he wrote it! It has that Andrew vibe
@@o5-814he sing lead in like 4 songs but sings or has backing vocals in like 16
This song always felt like a sequel to taken for a ride, and this version definitely makes me think that
I always loved the last part.
am i in a tally carnival what im scared what are these men in ties where am i
LOTS OF THE S*N 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
ruined 69 comments just to say this demo is amazkng
3:30 sounds like end credits
I guess this is really mind control lol
the start reminds me of like a casino and andrew just owns it
3:30
THANK YOUUUUUAAAAAA
Best part I SWEARR
If tally hall scored Castlevania
I like the finished version it's alsomy favourite song of tally hall, though this one is good too because of course, it's andrew!
YAYYYY ANDREW
2:45 I would like to have a longer version of this part to use at my 15th birthday coronation.
Fate of the stars got much better, this is good though
(I made a grammar mistake, so I’m reposting my comment)
I’d like to give my critique of this demo:
Positives: Everything from @ to the end sounds superior to the final version (especially the piano part), albeit needing some cleanup.
Negatives: Having only Andrew do the vocals, which I think the final version improved on (not saying Andrew isn’t a good vocalist, but I don’t think his voice is good for the beginning part of FotS), and this version having less of the heavy vibe of the final version.
Overall, good version of the song with some things that are better than what we got on Good & Evil, but I would never replace the final version with this. Someone should probably do a mix of this & the final FotS, to combine both of their sounds (I hope someone does that, cause it will be a guaranteed bop).
For some reason the I time signature was replaced by an @ symbol (probably due to an error during the copy & paste), so here the time signature I was trying to type: 2:45
Also, one negative I forgot to mention is this version not having the piano intro of the final version.
@@StationSquare. you could have just edited the comment instead of replying and reposting it
@@rootgotter355 I tried, but I guess something’s wrong with my browser cause when I press the edit button for my comments, it doesn’t do anything.
@@StationSquare. ah, youtube's being weird again lol
This song went from a standard Andrew song to arguably the best Tally Hall song
Lyrics (the person before me couldn’t select the demos lyrics)
Movement]
[Verse 1]
To leave from this tale, follow closely ahead
Prepare to exist by the living & dead
Too slow or too kind or too wary of those too at ease
Past all the buried impressions of then
Sullen drawn eyes and expressions to mend
Continued through mirrors left broken to sing and be heard
Through when it seems all the senses are lost to absurd
Chorus]
So the part where we are
Trapped in active depart
In the fatе of the stars
No, not one who we arе
No control pumping heart
Button pressed mind in art
Mind control, mind restart
Verse 2]
To leave from the present with no source of sound
They laugh because silence is never around
Ignored and forgotten, the past may continue to breathe
Feared not a rest by this desolate friend
Whose patience revealed what intent comes to send
With a stare at a hole in the world comes a lust to be high
Above all the dark nested clouds that keep guard of the sky
Chorus]
So the part where we are
Trapped in active depart
In the fate of the stars
No, not one who we are
No control pumping heart
Button pressed mind in art
Mind control, mind restart
Bridge]
Step onto the Ferris wheel
Round for day and night
Lost in what's forever more
Complacent in its reasons for
Give & take & sleep & wake &
Pray for day & night to come
Again, we see there's certainty in
What we feel and what we've heard
Again, we see there's certainty in
Expectations all the same
movement
He didnt emphasize the fate of the stars part enough, new one is better but andrew still did do good.
this sounds like a more prog rock esque version of the original.. those keys give me slight yes vibes??
That is why i like this
This version is closer in lineage to Yes and Genesis, the final version is closer in lineage to Pink Floyd and King Crimson
Looks like snes remix
I wish I could write a comment that seems edited but never was.
edit: I guess it never happened
impossible!
😮
mmmMMMM andrew
idk if this is an unpopular opinion but the original is better ngl I kinda dont like this version, this version feels kinda dry..
Well
It's a demo
Can I be honest? I don't like when Andrew sings. I love his writing, love his songs, but I'm GLAD that the version we got didn't have him singing. (At least for the main part of the song)
I love when he sings, but his voice REALLY doesn't fit for the type of song FotS is in it's first part
I like his singing in the other songs. He doesn't fit in this.
@@bowgart683me too
Looks like snes remix
Looks like snes remix