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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2023
  • Bryan Hayes, Jeff O’Neill and Jamie McLennan are joined by Maple Leafs writer for the Athletic Jonas Siegel to discuss Brad Treliving’s moves in the summer and whether or not the signing of Ryan Reaves will be a good impact on the team.

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  • @furnitrader
    @furnitrader Před 10 měsíci +14

    All the nerds hate the Reaves signing. Look, the term and AAV is high, there's no doubt. But they had to do that because so many teams were trying to get Reaves on the open market. That says something. He not only scares the other team, he fights, hits, has leadership, protects players and makes everyone feel more comfortable on the ice. Jonas Siegel will be proven wrong this year.

    • @scottmcfarlane7524
      @scottmcfarlane7524 Před 10 měsíci

      Who are these other teams cause based on Free agents this year no one else was in on him maybe Boston or Calgary but at a league min. Scares other teams LOL why he is grit that is all. Peg was in the same div as Min last year didnt even notice him in any games last year save for when Lowry the last 23 sec in a game when our Captian woped his back side.

    • @jlove8445
      @jlove8445 Před 10 měsíci +2

      So now all of a sudden Reaves is no longer tough and you are no longer a nerd?
      Nice try four eyes..

    • @billbuffalo6755
      @billbuffalo6755 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@scottmcfarlane7524the peg was a complete joke last year and will be again this year. No one notices their entire roster when they play against the Jets lol

    • @nparula
      @nparula Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@scottmcfarlane7524Jets fan…enjoy the rebuild lol

  • @joes8244
    @joes8244 Před 10 měsíci +8

    He was signed because the Leafs have a tepid locker room that lacks energy and Reaves brings that, on and off the ice. The trade deadline arrivals said it during their exit interviews last season; No team dinners or activities, the core 4 guys being on an island, all business and no fun. Hopefully he changes that, doubtful though.

  • @AlistairArbour-qi3xp
    @AlistairArbour-qi3xp Před 10 měsíci +12

    Sieg apparently hasn't watched the playoffs for the last 10 years

  • @perrysturgeon
    @perrysturgeon Před 10 měsíci +5

    matthew Tkachuk punched Marner in the face numerous times and no one stepped in to do anything .

  • @mercywilliams2698
    @mercywilliams2698 Před 10 měsíci +8

    The main thing about Reaves is he likes to be noisy in the locker room..the core of this team seems to be different kind of energy from that..the net result will hopefully be to team’s advantage..

    • @rickymartin875
      @rickymartin875 Před 10 měsíci

      Leafs are a fluff team. You can't teach a Spade to be a Club. A spade will always be a spade.

  • @thumpyloudfoot864
    @thumpyloudfoot864 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Why is everyone acting like the NHL won't exist after this season? Seriously, like why can't these people understand that a player like Reeves is good to have around when your star players are in the prime of their career? 1.35 million for 3 years sounds bad until you realize the Cap is going up... I could definitely see one of the talking points after 2027 been "This would've gone better if we had some toughness and push back a player like Reeves or Wilson definitely could've helped during this last couple of runs.."

  • @baohoaily
    @baohoaily Před 10 měsíci +4

    He’s definitely gonna scare the shit out of the opposition from the press box. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @billbuffalo6755
    @billbuffalo6755 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I dont agree with anything Jonas said there lol. Reaves is a solid pickup. That lineup needs a legitimate tough guy

    • @jlove8445
      @jlove8445 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Jonas is a Violin player, of course he doesn’t like the signing, no surprise

  • @troyfagan1361
    @troyfagan1361 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Maybe they brought him In the be a mouthy presence when the team Itself are not playing hard. I love the signing.

  • @conororourke3089
    @conororourke3089 Před 10 měsíci +5

    He doesn’t agree with the signing, it’s much different than not getting it because it’s clear what he can bring to the team that we desperately need. If he doesn’t understand that then he’s not a hockey journalist

  • @collynbertin3260
    @collynbertin3260 Před 10 měsíci +1

    the important part about reaves' contract is that it's below or right at the cusp of buryable. Also even though he is more than 35 he does not have a 35 plus contract due to weird addendums added to how 35-plus contracts work.
    I think it's around 1.1 million that can be buried in the ahl. If reaves doesn't work out he goes to ahl for a very minimal hit to the cap or someone grabs him off of waivers if they want.
    If he goes to the ahl it's around 200 k that will count against the cap. It may be a headache that 200 k, but knowing Brandon Pridham is a wizard with the cap, he has more than likely factored scenarios for reaves and roster management.
    Pridham more than likely has a scenario where reaves is in the active lineup, a scenario where he is buried in the minors and the 200 k will get them close, and probably a scenario built if he goes to the ahl and gets claimed.
    As far as im aware pridham hasnt been poached yet. Ill put my faith that the leafs have already built rosters with a bunch of scenarios in mind. They will need to be as close to the cap as possible to benefit from Murray's and Muzzin's LTIR salary.

    • @Lucky30Ape
      @Lucky30Ape Před 10 měsíci

      He's got a 35+ contract so they can't bury any of it

    • @collynbertin3260
      @collynbertin3260 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Lucky30Ape there's something in ruling where if there's no signing bonuses and salary is the same every year then it's not 35 plus contract. I thought I heard somewhere that despite him being over 35 his contract is not considered 35 plus contract

  • @steveg5591
    @steveg5591 Před 8 měsíci

    Most of these comments haven’t aged well. Jonas, you were bang on!

  • @NHLfan11
    @NHLfan11 Před 10 měsíci +4

    1 year contract would be a great deal! Love Ryan Reaves! but 3 is outrageously terrible move but not my team and franchise see what he can produce and do but a very exciting team in the making!

    • @jordantanner8
      @jordantanner8 Před 10 měsíci +1

      As a leaf fan I hate the term, but i like the idea of having a guy like reaves , when I fist seen the contract I can’t say I was thrilled and still can’t say I am purely off the term of the deal , but from everything I’ve heard it was the only way he could get him to come was adding a year or 2 compared to other teams so the aav would be lower , again I can’t say I would of made the move , but hey im just a guy commenting on a CZcams video and treliving is an nhl gm

    • @rickymartin875
      @rickymartin875 Před 10 měsíci

      I'm very excited to see the NHL Record active Cup drought continue compliments of the 67s

    • @jlove8445
      @jlove8445 Před 10 měsíci

      And you’re “very excited” about that because you are a Flake..

  • @steph1433
    @steph1433 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Let it go

  • @thumpyloudfoot864
    @thumpyloudfoot864 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Jonas Siegel doesn't understand something... Shocking....

  • @adamparkinson3921
    @adamparkinson3921 Před 10 měsíci

    King of the Cronies

  • @chrisarseneault5782
    @chrisarseneault5782 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Oh Lordy Jonas has gotta change his name to Sally..
    How's getting Domi Bert and Reaves a bad thing... there's few reporters I disagree with more as a whole... I simply don't get you

  • @nparula
    @nparula Před 10 měsíci +3

    I’m not saying this is a great move or a bad move. But, Reaves isn’t brought in just for what he can do, but also for what his presence will allow others to do.

  • @davidm469
    @davidm469 Před 10 měsíci

    3mil will feel like 1mil next year when the cap goes up

  • @frankd534
    @frankd534 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I believe Jonas said "I don't know" 8 times in this interview. Yikes!

  • @SteveSacrob
    @SteveSacrob Před 10 měsíci

    The players don't care. They say the right things but they're all set for life.

  • @sportsfan_913
    @sportsfan_913 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I don't hate the Reaves contract but I also see the detractors. Look at the final-4. None of them had a Reaves type player. They had pests, sure. But nobody like Reaves.

    • @samuelkobe
      @samuelkobe Před 10 měsíci

      I think the negative side of it is the length. It could have probably been at least a 2 year only

  • @mannyo2909
    @mannyo2909 Před 10 měsíci

    You’re born with character, it doesn’t suddenly sprout. Your team is your team. Domi and Bertuzzi have got some, Mathews and Marner not so much.

  • @leaf16nut
    @leaf16nut Před 10 měsíci +4

    He can be EASILY buried, it’s just money and there’s plenty of ways for it to not count against the cap, no fan should care if they like Reaves, that’s what it cost to get him...

    • @imsocoolitscrazy
      @imsocoolitscrazy Před 10 měsíci

      The contract isn't fully buriable

    • @bradweirca
      @bradweirca Před 10 měsíci

      @@imsocoolitscrazy caps going up.

    • @imsocoolitscrazy
      @imsocoolitscrazy Před 10 měsíci

      @@bradweirca The NHL and NHLPA signed the Memorandum of Understanding in 2020 that extended the current CBA and that made the buriable max 1.15M through the 25-26 season. It's not buriable for the duration of the contract.

    • @leaf16nut
      @leaf16nut Před 10 měsíci

      @@imsocoolitscrazy And he can't play the 'I'm injured and can never play again' card? There's a way my friend, if people like him at this cap hit for one year, nobody should worry about the next two
      This coming from somebody who initially hated the signing.

    • @imsocoolitscrazy
      @imsocoolitscrazy Před 10 měsíci

      @@leaf16nut Cool so it can be circumvented, not easily buried, because it's not buriable. Good chat

  • @pjmmaloney4458
    @pjmmaloney4458 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Why is Jonas Siegel ever on this show? He's been covering the Maple Leafs for about a decade and has never broken a story -- ever. Get Terry Koshan or some other real reporter on here.

  • @larry2209
    @larry2209 Před 10 měsíci

    wendel clark is his name

    • @larry2209
      @larry2209 Před 10 měsíci

      he'd say fuk you, don't care how big you are, you're goin down

  • @mannyo2909
    @mannyo2909 Před 10 měsíci

    Look at the homers defending the Reeves signing lol

  • @floopypuncakes
    @floopypuncakes Před 10 měsíci

    I mean luch was in calgary and people ripped Johnny & mony apart and he stood up for them but it didn't stop them....the scare factor really dosnt matter I think in the NHL...like there all pros it's not house league

    • @adrianr2398
      @adrianr2398 Před 10 měsíci

      If you saw Mike Tyson on the opposite team, would you take cheap shots? Just answer the question

    • @floopypuncakes
      @floopypuncakes Před 10 měsíci

      @adrianr2398 yeah...bwcuae not sure If kike Tyson can skate..and reeves is not Mike Tyson....and again there's a reason and it sucks thay enforcers have gone out of the league...

  • @jonfquebec
    @jonfquebec Před 10 měsíci

    Ludvig Åberg , sounds more like Oberg than Aberg.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Před 10 měsíci

    team defense to win playoff series?

  • @Stevenknowsnews
    @Stevenknowsnews Před 10 měsíci +1

    Toronto nhl/sports reporters took hitting out of the game.
    They couldn't watch the violence.
    They are the problem

  • @About36Greekss
    @About36Greekss Před 10 měsíci

    If they signed Domi and Bertuzzi first I doubt they sign Reaves

  • @Krokodilius
    @Krokodilius Před 10 měsíci +5

    jonas lied, toronto *DID* lose to florida because they got their shit caved in. referees let florida do whatever they want in the middle 2 series. when the rules were actually applied boston should've beat them and vegas easily beat them.

    • @rileystone3017
      @rileystone3017 Před 10 měsíci

      matt Tkachuk punched Mitch marner in the fact multiple times and no-one did anything about it

  • @marcforgues9393
    @marcforgues9393 Před 10 měsíci

    Wear a bucket.
    Helmets save lives. You only need one concussion for it to be too many.

  • @jasonlane7743
    @jasonlane7743 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Jonas is a good writer but I couldn’t agree with his hockey philosophy any less.

  • @darrellmackinnon1667
    @darrellmackinnon1667 Před 10 měsíci

    *Probably won't get used much until playoffs, where he isn't the player that they need in crucial situations. Poor Leaf Fans, I truly feel bad for you guys. Annual terrible trade acquisition at the deadline, that never pans out.*

  • @keith96969
    @keith96969 Před 10 měsíci +1

    it’s been two months since he signed just stop

  • @MrRembrandt619
    @MrRembrandt619 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The whole team will be healthier come playoff time because of Reaves no cheap shots on the stars all year.

    • @rickymartin875
      @rickymartin875 Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you believe that, I have land in the Florida Everglades to sell you for cheap. lol

  • @markkennedy5335
    @markkennedy5335 Před 10 měsíci

    Reaves will be a side show circus. Hope the leafs have a good penalty kill.

  • @mycrease8936
    @mycrease8936 Před 10 měsíci +2

    People are bitching about Reaves as if Kampf was some fuckn winners signing at 2.4M, a 3rd line center with NO SIZE, no offensive attributives, kills a few penalties on a mediocre PK, and wins a few faceoffs. Give me a break, Reaves isn't the issue here.

    • @jlove8445
      @jlove8445 Před 10 měsíci

      Chill
      ✊🏿 🏝️

    • @moritzguderian8381
      @moritzguderian8381 Před 10 měsíci

      Kamf is a solid player kerfoot was awful

    • @mycrease8936
      @mycrease8936 Před 10 měsíci

      @@moritzguderian8381 solid? Solid for what? Garbage

    • @gordonbgraham
      @gordonbgraham Před 10 měsíci

      @@mycrease8936 He's a defensive specialist who goes up against the opponent's top lines. Despite this, and despite having only 6pts in 27 playoff games, he's a plus 2, meaning the opposing teams top lines are down 2 against him in the playoffs. Clearly, he'd doing HIS job. Others need to step up and do theirs.

    • @mycrease8936
      @mycrease8936 Před 10 měsíci

      @gordonbgraham ya, we heard this notion before and guess what....it doesn't work. Need a 3rd line that will grind the opposition, play the net, he's none of that. He won't last all year on the 3rd line.

  • @kensmith3665
    @kensmith3665 Před 10 měsíci

    Yes, no one cares about golf.

  • @519mafia
    @519mafia Před 10 měsíci +3

    Noodles apologizes for cutting Jonas off then keeps talking like he always does
    Can’t stand that guy
    Love the show but would be better without his babble
    The only person worse is Frankie
    If he’s on the show I don’t watch

    • @gordonbgraham
      @gordonbgraham Před 10 měsíci

      Carlo Coliacavo shouldn't be behind a mic professionally.

  • @robrobert3438
    @robrobert3438 Před 10 měsíci

    no one cares about golf