Psychologist Reacts to Therapist from In Treatment Season 1
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- Psychologist Reacts to Therapist from In Treatment Season 1
Footage from HBO's "In Treatment":
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Starring Gabriel Byrne as Dr. Paul Weston.
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I am a therapist, and I find it so tragic that people of our profession have completely lost a sense of basic humanity and look at everything from the point of potential liability. It's super twisted to interpret a simple kind human gesture as something unethical. I love In Treatment, and I think he did an excellent job with Sophia.
He should have reported her coach for abusing her though
Im in training, and yes it's very sad really. It comes from feminism and metoo, even with strict boundaries a woman can still make something up and potentially ruin a mans career though. Im thinking i might focus only on men for my own safety
I loved this show too. Therapists have therapists as friends. They consult with one another
as peers-about their cases. Supervisors donât stay supervisors. They sometimes become colleagues and friends. I did. Is that not allowed? The relationship between these two therapist is as complicated as their interactions with one another in this scene. This show had fantastic writers. This is not an interaction between a client and a therapist. Really important to state that. Therapists can hire a supervisor at any point in their career. Itâs different when you are in graduate school or are getting supervised for licensure.
Than when you are two established licensed therapists
@@benjaminollis7621 Please stop training. You don't understand anything and you will hurt people.
At times I forget this is fictional. I almost felt slightly bad for the therapist for the criticism of his method, but then I'm like oh wait, it's Gabriel Byrne. Fantastic acting from the cast.
I so enjoy the show too. I am not a therapist, but I think that Gabriel Byrne does an outstanding job in the show.
It was precisely what Gina addressed in later episode: "what do you want from me, a supervisor, friend, therapist, you're unclear" (something like that)
I know this isn't the point of this video, but Mia Wasikowska's performance as Sophienis PHENOMENAL. Her American accent is so good.
I've just watched it and it's a stunning performance.
I loved that series.. glad itâs coming back. Everyone on that show breaks therapeutic boundaries .. but itâs Hollywood đ€©
I am a 22 year old studying a diploma of counselling. I find your videos so helpful. I sometimes struggle with learning boundaries but you make it so clear in these videos. I would love to work with children but also interested in criminal psychology. Thank you for all the helpful videos!!
Loved this! The grey areas are so thought provoking
I am so glad you are bringing attention to this show. I love your facial reactions! They totally match mine. I agree with what you said about Dr. Weston's silence and less reactions. I am so reactive and I try to keep silent space but it is challenging! And there are so many boundary issues in this show and I think it brings attention to how sticky they can get as a therapist. Thank you for all that you do for our community.
If we could all only have Paul Weston as our therapist......
the cringe boundary crossing is what makes this show so good
i loved this video so much! thanks!
I really liked the layers of this series. The cases seem very real at times; sometimes I think that the clients are perhaps based on real people. I often feel that I would use different interventions or analyze the client differently from Paul, but his reactions are still interesting. Are you going to do more reactions to episodes?
I feel the same way! I'm filming a reaction to episode one of season 4 today - no idea how long until it releases since I take forever to edit reaction videos and baby girl is due soon, but it'll come sometime! :)
@@PrivatePracticeSkills I just started watching, and I was unpleasantly surprised with Paul's externalizing tendencies (or should I say; emotional abuse) of Gina. Of course it's all fiction, but it was shocking to see such a lack of mentalization in a therapist! Anyway, I look forward to your next reaction whenever you upload it, editing is certainly a pain. And congratulations! How wonderful that you will have a daughter soon. All the best!
@@PrivatePracticeSkills - I think Paul Weston is a psychiatrist - not a psychologist.
Am I correct?
In Brazil itâs completely different. What is cringy to Americans (hugs etc) is completely common in South American therapists office. It would not be acceptable to be this âcoldâ and âdistantâ. Clients would not feel comfortable otherwise.
Interesting. It makes sense that cultural differences would account for different standards of behavior in treatment. The Israeli show seems more fiery and the french one is even colder than the American one.
I am in America and thankfully my therapist is very warm and caring.
Respectfully, itâs not a cultural thing. A decent therapist needs to have strict boundaries with patients. Itâs just needed rules or itâll eventually harm both. (Believe me if you know why youâd definitely wanna follow the rules.)
And one another thing, Iâm not American, I actually live in Middle East:)
â@@northernstar5941What's the name of the French version?
I think I read or heard in an interview that a psychodynamic therapist was consulting for the series.
Paulâs in a tough spot here because he suspects the sexual abuse from the coach, but Sophie is so defensive and ready to split off that if he acts too quickly sheâll leave and never come back. Also the daughter situation is discovered in the middle of the session, heâs kind of trapped in a way.
Wow I love this channel, I am new here. As a fellow psychotherapist I am reflecting on my own experience. Boundaries are so necessary and a must.
I love this show! I love how we as therapists have to learn how to read & interpret the things they tell us.
The supervisor/therapist relationship is more complicated in psychoanalytic paradigm. You need to be analyzed for a period of time before they can approve you to become an analyst from what I understand, so it may not be as strange as she thinks.
This apparently vastly varies from country to country. In Germany Supervision is not mandatory but the rule for a certain type of psychologist (psychotherapy based on depth psychology or Tiefenpsychologisch fundierte Psychotherapie). Supervision is usually regular and looked at as part of the process. It is less about the therapist though and more about cases the therapist might have trouble with or have very difficult transference counter-transference dynamics, stuff like that. During training in Germany in depth psychology you do go through a whole analysis setting therapy as part of your training.
As someone thinking of going into counseling in rural areas, this kind of slippery slope between professionalism and community is some thing I anticipate running into a lot. Knowing that my practice might very well be connected to or at least close by my home and that I will likely run into my clients often outside of the practice these kinds of boundary issues may very well happen.
Also, about Paul's "hands off" approach, he is supposed to be a psychoanalyst in the series (Gina talks about Stephen Mitchell who was a Relational analyst. So it makes sense for him, as a psychoanalytic therapist, to be a bit more silent. Many analysts are relatively silent because they want their clients to do the talking (more stuff to analyze) and say something when they have an interpretation to offer, and they want to invite their client's projections (transference). I'm not an analyst, but my supervisors were analysts, and even in supervision they were mostly silent.
Revered therapist Irvin Yalom said that sometimes when he was wondering what to say to a client he asked himself "what would Paul Weston do?"
Try to have an affair with her.
So what is ground zero--being humane or continually thinking in terms of legal or professional boundaries? Let her stay wet or wait who knows how long to call someone. Proof of when the institution takes precedent over being humane. The comments are so wish washy. The screen therapist in so authentic.
On point đ
The screen Therapist crossed so many boundaries.
Im sure youre a good therapist, but I sure am glad youre not mine.
Hbo is bringing this show back with a new cast!
Yes yes yes! May 23rd! :)
Awesome one of my favorite shows! Please say Gabriel is still in it
But can I love it as much without Gabriel Byrne???
Gina and Paulâs relationship is extremely complex and has a lot of layers. On one hand, Paul comes to her as an almost lost son, yet fights her every step of the way, unable to fully accept her care. He always gets defensive when heâs faced with the truth. And ofc the relationship with his father comes to light and he runs. Gets angry.
Gina has a deep seeded resentment that follows them as they continue in season 2.
I find her style very interesting but also difficult. The two of them clearly arenât a match anymore and itâs sort of an endless back and d forth without going all the way through.
I will say he has it coming for being rude to her again and again. She finally lets him have it at one point. But then you see just how there arenât many boundaries between them.
Therapist-Patient. Supervisor-Therapist. Mother-Son dynamic.
Itâs just a Mess.
I do favor Paul in this for his no BS approach and warm demeanor. Gina certainly is much more focused and objective. But it can come off as cold sometimes. dare I say sanctimonious. I feel she likes to hear herself talk. And uses the resentment she has against him.
This show is just perfect. The series helped
Me come to terms with alot.
Gina is a match because she tells him a truth he hides behind telling other people their truths. She is his Paul, and as a self-hating individual, Paul hates her doubly: for being what he is, and for being what he could become.
*Adored* this show. It actually has a fourth season. Don't know if it's any good
i love how we share the importance of boundaries between clients and therapist, it seems many therapist have lost this important aspect this days, probably they should check themselves a little bit, maybe they just want to be the smart friends of everybody xD
This is a sad thing to hear. I'm a part of the field now and it honestly shocked me to hear and read about the horror stories that people share with their therapist (in terms of the ill treatment that some therapists give and the breaking of trust). All jobs should be sacred but with this particular field we were taught to really respect the privacy of this client. It makes no sense for me that some would have clients read contracts and sign them, only to break their trust.
Loved that show! His boundaries with clients were interesting, though... đ§đ Looking forward to watching this!
Yes, so many boundary crossings! Very cringe-worthy but also, I always found myself feeling empathy for him too. It may not be the best therapy, but it does make great TV :)
Please, season 2 and 3!!!
I was 15 when this show came out. Loved it. Brings back memories
excellent video please do more in treatment reactions
Have you seen Chance? It was on Hulu.
As someone who's taking clinical psychology class, which talks a LOT about therapy, this video was interesting.
I'm amazed you feel that he's hands off? I guess I see you're point if you mean for the purpose of an evaluation, which in my country is not the job of a psychotherapist (I would NEVER provide an evaluation for an insurance company). I always feel as though he's super directive, usually because it's a gaping channel for all his unresolved stuff. I often feel as though he interrupts when he could leave space - and can't bear to let clients come around to a way of being in their own time because of his own insecurities.
I love the show, I feel a lot for him, but I do also judge him. The boundary issues are sometimes so over the top I leave them to one side, it's more that he asks for so much openness from his clients, but doesn't often ask that of himself in his own therapy, I find that hard to stomach (something of me in that I wonder :P).
It's fascinating listening to your different and similar takes on it :)
I just finished watching the episode where she hugs the mom.....I almost lost it. My eyes got watery. I hope that doesn't happen to my yes when I start treating patients
10:52 my therapist can't remember anything. When I tell stories about Chris, he asks "Who was that again?" ....eh my ex-boyfriend? Well I've only been in therapy for a year now, so.... xD
Does it make you feel not heard? Because it would make me feel like that.
@@MarmotayTaiwan yeah definitely.
@@anniepannie2093 Have you thought about going to another therapist? Maybe he or she has helped you a lot, and they are after all, human, so it's normal they forget things. But I just hope you feel comfortable with the process (Sorry, english is not my first language)
It's been years since I watched Intreatment but i do love Him. Gina is supposibly his collegue I believe. Sometimes therapist need to read someones's personality in order to get a reaction and although I know this is a show he did that with Sophie.
Can you please please please review the 2nd season of Ted Lasso with the therapist Sharon?
Sophie mentions in the first one that she went to school with the daughter in a prior year. His daughter is either at a different school or graduated by the time Paul takes Sophie as a client.
I love this show so much!
You are just so much fun to watch watching stuff! I have really laughed my **s off!đđđđđŸ
Not sure how acquainted you are with Marvel, but can you react to the therapist scenes from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier?
I second this!
I third it.
Sophia and the daughter (I think her name is Rosalie) go to the same school. Thatâs why she knows about the daughter. Also yes the wifeâs name is Kate
Loved this video so much. Could you react to the two therapists in the Netflix Series Wanderlust?
I remember this show
No todos los psicĂłlogos son iguales. Debe haber un punto de confianza. Si el psicĂłlogo fuera tan distante y seco, seguramente no lo verĂa mĂĄs.
EstĂĄ psicĂłloga se asombra y casi censura al terapista.
Have you ever seen the reality show called couples therapy I found it very interesting as a therapist I don't do couples therapy.
Iâll look into it! Thanks
Itâs listed as a docu series on Show Time. apparently there is one called couples counseling on Netflix have not seen that one.
Loved that series! Everyone in that show breaks therapeutic boundaries but itâs Hollywood đ€©
so about the change of clothes, i don't know if you are aware that people can actually die from hypothermia, offering to leave them in their wet clothes doesn't seem like the right thing to do. offering them the option for their guardian to pick them up, same person they got wet to get away from seems weird to me too. basically you're saying don't deal with this wet child.
BLANKET
That was in his office bathroom not his actual home bathroom.
I can tell she's a real therapist because she is absolutely right about everything here, and very interesting, but SO uncomfortable in this new role as a CZcams personality that she develops a very strange bunch of nervous tics and mannerisms. When I say "stick to your day job," I truly mean that as a compliment!
Can you have blankets for clients? That was my first thought.
YES
Yes that would be a wise thing. She could have used a blanket but its a bit odd the way they structured it because it seems as if she wanted him to help her change her clothes. Never watched it tho.
Can anyone identify the lamp on Paul's desk? The chrome UFO-looking one?
Vulcan
Probably if its not appropriate to give some dry clothes and avoid the awkwardness of her having to redress, I would probably try to offer a blanket instead so Sophie could at least warm up a little.
Yo tambien soy terapeuta, felicidades, muy Ăștil tu video, saludos desde Monterrey, Mx
I like how Gabriel Byrne is also a psychiatrist in Hereditary. And Alex Wolff is his son in that movie đ
That's deliberate. Casting Directors often pair actors together in very similar roles in other shows. It makes sense as they already have rapport and can slip into working together with ease.
04:48 haha - your reaction!
Sophie went into the bathroom (which would obviously be available to ALL clients). She did not go into Paul's private living quarters. Also, Paul is a psychoanalyst and silence is a typical part of that modality. His relationship with Gina is indeed cringe worthy and honestly kind of gross to me.
No, she does go into the kitchen, not available to all clients
Yes, we are already told that Sophie and his daughter Rosie go to the same school
The show take place in a Baltimore suburb at this point in the series
Not to be critical but those doing reactions should know the show a bit better because it helps with judgement
Many people take notes on paper and then type them up
An observation. I'm currently watching the show and his wife came to his office. She's in the office's bathroom helping Sophie, not in the house, so she's not in his personal space.
I would have been hell of more involved and not let things go like that with how she wanted to discuss his daughter. God, so many boundary violations.
Yes, Paul's patients are often incredibly rude to him: either insulting him or coming onto him.
I've just started watching this drama. I'm now on Series 2. My initial impressions is that therapy is portrayed as one long boundary trash.
Yoire not showing the full scenes yet analysed commetimg
This scene was amazing the way it was thought and acted out
Please show the full episode of you are going to bullshit
It appears that he and his Supervisor crossed many boundaries which may even involve sheetsâŠđłđłđłđłđłđŹđŹđŹđŹđŹ
i see what paul has done is humanitarian rather than ethical and i do not see any problem with it
My favorite season until season 4 came out!!!
She did a review on it as well. It's interesting how people are commenting on this one who is crossing boundaries vs how they are commenting to the African American therapist doing the same đ€ here the title is "Crossing all the Boundaries" vs the title "So Cringey" for the other. Way more of a negative connotation. I seriously question her cultural competence.
@@blessedandannointed I can understand that I had to re-read your commentâŠ.. When in all actuality i think the titles should be switched if thatâs what she called that one
â@@blessedandannointedYes, it's a very interesting comparison.
Anyone got an HBO account lol
1. Donât see teen clients.
2. Never hold sessions in your house.
This is a bad depiction of our profession.
Ya just âprobablyâ less âcaringâ as a human to another human
I remember watching this series years ago, I don't think I stuck with it beyond season 2, because like in many other movie productions - it seemed too unrealistic and showcasing more ''bad therapy'' than good. Don't they hire consultants - real psychologists and psychotherapists for the writing of these movies? It's absurd. Similar with ''Workin' moms'' on Netflix - the character Anne Carlson crossing so many boundaries, not being mentally stable herself etc. Same with ''You Me Her'' on Netflix and 3 of the main characters - all working in Mental Health and all being bad examples of what a stable person who works as a therapist should be like.
- _Leah_
It's annoying and I don't even work in the field, but have had therapy at certain times of my life.
They take dramatic licence WAY too far.
What kind of therapy is that? Psychoanalisys?
Yes
Please stop talking so much snd show us more of the series~~Thank you~~đđđ~~Have a nice weekend~~đđđ~
I would actually do what you would do about the clothes, I would personally call the parents or guardian to come pick her up or to bring her some dry clothes. I would never involve a client with my personal life. It is dangerous and unethical. The therapist was laid back, did not really push for her to open, this in turn encouraged her to open up more with gentle questions. She began to start to feel comfortable and opened up more of her feelings. The wife really couldn't do much after Sophie wrapped her arms around her neck. Sophie is apparently hurting and she need some form of comfort, She clearly felt safe with Paul's wife.
Paul should have been referred to another therapist, clearly this is a history with the two, either therapist or supervisor. WOW! refer. Don't get involved
One could always cover her with a blanket
I am astonished how cold and distant therapists can be. I would never trust such consultants.
you cringe a lot for not things that aren't cringy
I'm pretty surprised you say "clients" and not "patients".
It's general practice for therapists to call the folks we serve clients rather than patients. This is to reflect how we come alongside those we work with and journey together with them and help them discover what's best for them, rather than a medical model where therapists simply prescribe solutions. I hope that's helpful to hear!
@@PrivatePracticeSkills It is illuminating to hear, but to my ears, a little disappointing. It highlights the transactional nature of the relationship rather than the healing aspect.
@@fueradeljuego Dr's (psychiatrists, psychologists, and psychiatric nurse practitioners) especially those who went to medical school or are able to prescribe psychotropic medications typically use the term patients, whereas licensed therapists or Masters level clinicians (Counselors and Social Workers) use the term clients.
Ugghhhhhhh
I think you should be more articulate for a therapist than few annoying impressions and jestures.
It's tv/entertainment, you need narrative liberties to make a show work, otherwise watch a doco
I know, but this takes it to the max.
She goes to school with his daughter, Rosie and actually knows her.
Paul cannot leave her in the wet clothes.
Not sure what to do there.
He needed to call her mom. If no answer, or either way, cover her with a blanket.
Jeez, how can you be so emotionally impotent?
I went straight to 4 minutes to get to the review. It didnât take long for me to stop watching mainly because of your totally I over the line sensitivity to âboundariesâ. Really? Thank goodness I donât deal with therapists.
Thank goodness they don't deal with you. You'd probably trash every boundary they had.
You guys are great scams
Yes, I'm sure the thousands of scientific studies that prove the benefits of psychotherapy are all scams đ
@@B_27 There are "studies" to say whatever you want
Cold, lacking soul "therapeutic" approach. I do not see much therapist-material here.
Sorry about that.
@@saitsvg Are you talking about the TV show or the actual therapist? In case it wasn't obvious enough, the TV show is fictional entertainment and not an accurate representation of real therapy.
@@michellelekas211 Show me one that conclusively proves all psychotherapy is a scam. I'm waiting.