They were on their way to the hall of fame, but then…
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- These NBA players were on their way to the hall of fame, but unfortunate injuries derailed their careers and their hall of fame chances have dwindled.
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Penny Hardaway and Derrick Rose are prime examples of how injuries can ruin generational players. Penny and Derrick’s games were beautiful to watch. Unfortunately knee injuries derailed their careers.
Don't forget about Grant Hill
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@@fekalistagrzybowory7619 He made the hall of fame.
what abt grant hill
@@rapgodreloaded9259 still doesn’t change the face injuries ruined a generational talent, he had sm potential
Amare hurt me almost as much as Rose , Amare was so electric , he was a modern 4 when 4’s were not quite playing like him , he could shoot the mid , the occasional 3 , he could bang down low , his 1st year in NY he brung excitement back to NY , he gave the Knicks the spotlight again , John Wall will also be on this list soon
They fr forget how good wall was
@@maxsowavy001 you go back to 2017 , he was only 26 and coming off his best year of his career , he was well on his way
Brought*
@@housesports000 i agree , sad what injuries and poor team management can do to talented players , and as great as wall was im not tryna say he was no Wade or Steph or cp3 type of 1st ballot HOF even without the injuries , but i think if he stayed healthy enough and kept racking up allstar appearances and a couple more all nba teams he would have got in sooner or later
Fr Fr and Derrick rose one makes me so sad what he could have been 😔
The late-2000s Blazers might be the ultimate “what-if” squad in NBA history between Brandon Roy and Greg Oden.
They could`ve had Michael Jordan and if they drafted Durant over Oden, also those blazers teams in the early 2000s where the refs rigged game 7 in the wcf vs the lakers and if Bill Walton doesn`t get injured how many titles they would`ve won.
Man that team could've been something special. Aldridge and Nic Batum were there too, and Dame showed up just a year after Roy retired. Imagine that line-up with everyone healthy... Lillard, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, and Oden. I would've loved to have seen that.
I remember the summer of 07 Boston had just made the trade but I was sooo hype for the Roy/Aldridge/Oden trio I was so disappointed when I found out Oden wouldn’t play in the season opener against the Spurs and his rookie season as a whole
Nah, they should have drafted KD in 2007
If the Blazers draft Durant over Oden, they would have had ALDRIDGE, DURANT, ROY, BATUM, OUTLAW, FRYE, BLAKE, WEBSTER, PRYZBILLA, BAYLESS in 2008. Thats a nice 9-10 MAN ROTATION. Having Durant would have stretched ROY's career an extra year or 2 because he wouln't have had to play 37- 38 mins a night on his knees. Blazers probably beat the heat in 2011, the same CHIP the MAVS won.
The name that will always come to my mind is Grant Hill. Dude was literally LeBron before LeBron. He managed to still have a great career and a great comeback story but his trajectory was to truly be a GOAT.
Fr well atleast he won some with Mj
I think of Shawn Kemp and Damon Stoudemire also Vince Carter.
@@commonsenseking6386 Vince Carter will get in. Had longevity, a long enough prime(10 straight seasons of 20+ppg), hell I think he's still the Nets all time leading scorer.
@@deanbenford7363 that’s actually the goat , brook lopez🐐
At least he made the HoF so that should count for something
Antonio Mcdyess looked like he was going to be an annual all star before his knee problems. Probably the kind of guy just below these guys.
To this day I just don’t understand what the Knicks were thinking when they saw McDyess only play 10 games the year prior with his knee injury and said to themselves…”Let’s trade our 7th overall pick and our best big man in Marcus Camby in exchange for McDyess coming off the injury!”
@@JWex-jy7sk loved Mcdyess but that was such a bad move.
Mcdyess was one of my favourite players before he got injured.
@@JWex-jy7sk everyone even the daily news was saying that was a terrible trade by the knicks. Mcdyess pre injury and a very good player but everyone knew he would never be the same player again. It’s just another terrible decision by the knicks I’ll place it with the Ridiculous Allan Houston, Eddie curry and Jerome James contract as 4 of their top 10 bone headed decisions in the 2000s
It's sad because most people remember him as a bench guy on the pistons ( it seems like the Pistons like to bring in former flashy dunkers towards the end of their careers), but he was very nice in Denver
At least we got to see Rose take an MVP with prime LeBron dominating!! We got to the highest of the highs with him!! We can’t say that about other players!!
Absolutely not rose was like 22 idgaf if he won the mvp we missed So much from him.
Then LeBron shut him down in the playoffs.
@@dwightlove3704 but Rose was a baby bro, imagine IQ growth, his abilities and then some?! It definitely would been Heat and Bulls battling instead of the Pacers.
@@benn255b3 Yes Rose was a rookie but nonetheless he was THE YOUNGEST LEAGUE MVP in NBA HISTORY nobody was talking about him being a rookie at the time ppl were infatuated with his ability.
@@dwightlove3704 it was his 3rd year when he won MVP. He only won ROY as a rookie. I’ll never forget one game against the Heat where he airballed a potential game winner with LeBron closing out on him that was a sign of things to come. Thankfully seeing Dirk deny him his first championship made that burn a little less, but it was frustrating seeing LeBron just bully his way to the lane. Also knowing that all it took was one injury to deny Rose his explosiveness and the only chance he had to counter LeBron’s brute force.
Grant Hill, T-Mac, Penny... Orlando has had a rough existence
Penny is my first NBA idol! His first knee injury was bad, but it got worsened due to him rushing to return for the 98 All-star game. Ironically he only get to play for around 5 mins at the ASG, IIRC. At the time no one knew he reinjured his knee by playing, but he only lasted for only a handful of games that season. Sadly he is never the same.
Top 10 to be added: Steve Francis, Shawn Kemp, Jermaine O'Neal, Reggie Lewis, Gordon Hayward, Kristaps Porzingis, Demarcus Cousins, Dwight Howard, Vin Baker, and Kenyon Martin
Dwight should probably be HOF. Leading a nobody Magic team against the Lakers team that would make three straight Finals appearances. 3 back-to-back-to-back DPOTY. 2nd in MVP voting one year (I think the year Rose won), and a finally a chip with the Lakers (even though he was a role player).
Amare Stoudamire was and is my favourite PF, sorry KG fans or other great PF in nba history but he was the guy that is my favourite. All of them in this video were great in all terms but due to injuries they felt short. This is sport and injuries are apart of it
Amar'e Stoudemire was my favorite player during the late-2000s, when I started following the NBA. I would dominate with him whenever I play NBA Live 07 and 2K7. Even though it's a long shot, I hope he makes it into the Hall of Fame.
One of my favorite players too but I don’t think he has any chance at the hall. He just doesn’t have resume or any championships to his name
That Suns team was a cheat code on NBA Live Nash, Marion, L.Barbosa,R.Bell, Boris Diaw, Stoudemire.
@@dark8prince201 facts!!
The trailblazers with Brendan Roy and Greg Oden was a dream that never came true, so much expectation 😢
Rasheed Wallace is a great pick also. A premier 3 point big, got a championship, and is a 4x all-star. Had a bad boy imagine that was fearless.
antonio mcdyess larry johnson tom gugliotta kemba walker and tim hardaway got off to a hot start but got injured and were never the same.
Mannn😢
Derrick Rose injuries still hurts me. The youngest MVP N battled against the heat big 3.
Chris Webber is a HIGHLY underrated and appreciated as one of the top 20 NBA Power Forwards in league history. AND he was an absolute beast in college so…yeah
Yep, the only thing that stopped him from being first ballot hall of famer is Tim Donaghy rigging the one game so he didn’t knock off prime Kobe and Shaq in 6… I didn’t agree with the “if Chris Webber got in then so should Amar’e” statement at the end there…
Well that and they punished him for the Michigan booster scandal.
For a couple of years Brandon Roy looked like the guy who was going to make Kobe sweat in PO for the next decade. He could do it all on the court and he had such a natural understanding of the game. He was an MVP caliber player, not just a HoF.
Lowkey I think victor oladipo could be here.I don’t think he would’ve ever been a top ten player like that but he could’ve racked up all star games, all defensive teams and a few all nba teams.
I think its too early to say that. We need few years more to observe victor
He's still got a chance he did miss like 3 years because of injury I think he could be something special in Miami
Hmm ion know bout that, these guys were superstars when they were healthy
This a good one. That one year ppl were saying he was the second best sg behind Harden. And he should’ve beat Lebron in the playoffs bt the refs didn’t call goaltending on lebrons block to win the game. Sadly they changed the official review after that year
@@phenomenal8705 he’s on the wrong side of 30 … it’s over for him in the sense that, he is who he is at this point
brandon roy will always be one of my biggest what ifs, dude was a scoring machine (not to sound so cliche) but the nigga was a walking bucket frfr
Brad Daugherty is so underrated! I'm glad you mentioned him in this video!
Brandon Roy is unsung and it hurts my heart to see it. I remember Kobe saying he was one of the best players he’s seen at that young of an age. D.Rose and Penny all of em we were truly robbed 😭😭😭
Absolutely tho Penny Hardaway & D Rose in their primes have a lasting example of how these drastic and sad injuries can ruin generational players , those knee injuries really derailed them before they can even last
Penny and Derrick are easily the best examples on this list, i see Penny having 2 rings and possibly a finals MVP to his name and i see Derrick with the same.
Injuries made that an impossibility.
Amar'e had so many big injuries but still was ballin until his first season in New York. Criminally underrated player.
Another great video from you Andy!! Great to see it and watch another banger!!
Here are a few more names, mostly from much older times, which I believe fit the bill:
Terry Dischinger won the NBA Rookie of the Year Award in the 1962-63 season, averaging 25.5 points, 8.0 rebounds and 3.1 assists. He was an NBA All Star in each of his first 3 seasons withe the Bullets and Pistons but then his career was put on hold for a couple of years of military service after which he was never the same player again.
Sidney Wicks played for the Trail Blazers from 1971 to 1976, earning a total of four All-Star selections (1972-1975). He was the 1972 Rookie Of the Year averaging 24.5 points and 11.5 rebounds.
His production declined visibly after leaving the Blazers.
Ernie DiGregorio played just 5 seasons in the NBA between 1973 and 1978. In his rookie season he led the NBA in both assists and free throw percentage, including a game with 25 assists which is still the rookie record to this day. He won Rookie Of the Year honors. During the 1976-77 season, DiGregorio led the league in free throw percentage a second time, with a then-NBA record 94.5%.
Larry Johnson was selected first overall in the 1991 NBA draft by the Charlotte Hornets, and won the NBA Rookie of the Year Award in his first season. In 1993, Johnson was voted to start in that year's All-Star Game, making him the first Hornet in franchise history to receive that honor; he enjoyed his best statistical season with averages of 22.1 points per game and 10.5 rebounds per game in 82 games, which earned him All-NBA Second Team honors. Along with Alonzo Mourning, Muggsy Bogues and Dell Curry, Johnson played with the Hornets at the height of their popularity in the early to mid-1990s. He had a total of 3 All Star selections in 5 years. But as time passed he had more and more personal problems with other NBA players and personnel and after a trade to the Knicks his production decreased steadily for the rest of his career.
Walter Davis was the fifth pick of the 1977 NBA draft to the Suns. He made an immediate impact, playing in 81 games and averaging 24.2 points per game in his first season, which would also be his career-high. He won the 1978 Rookie of the Year Award, and earned second team All-NBA honors. Over his first ten seasons, Davis averaged over 20 points per game six times, and earned trips to six All-Star Games and twice All-NBA honours. His later years were less productive.
This a nice history lesseon
Walter davis is all time underrated. Great player on good to average teams. Even had a 40 point game at age 36 where he looked unstoppable at times.
WOW! maybe your best video yet! glad you didn’t forget Brad Daugherty. Not surprised you didn’t though. Keep ‘em coming Andy!
You almost got 500k......Been here since 2019💯 good job
These types of videos are depressing af but I can’t stop watching them. 😅
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Penny Hardaway one will always hurt. I was the biggest Penny fan at the time and totally bought into the “New MJ” hype!
I think Stoudamire, Griffin and Rose deserve HOF spots, and Penny should sneak in, too. I’m not sure Roy or Arenas did enough to get in, but they’re at least on the fence. I don’t think Daugherty or Williams have any shot of getting in. Just my two cents . . .
Thank you for this video. Atleast we can appreciate them thi
Andy thanks for interesting topics always your the man
Those late 2000s Blazers squads , Greg Oden & Brandon Roy , man what if , those injuries were just brutal and just horrible luck , those were the worst
I can't understand how the youngest MVP ever who still managed to have a lasting career is always ruled out of HOF, but McGrady never won a playoffs series and is there.
Bc McGrady is a 7x all star and 7x all nba lol
@@bballbb8946 easy
You must be a 14 year old if you think that 🤦♀️
I lived in Orlando and was a Magic fan in the 90's. Man, Penny before injury was so awesome, and then you had Shaq too. Orlando was #1 in the ratings, mainly because Jordan was retired. But in 1996 the Magic vs. Bulls playoffs was supposed to be the matchup of the decade. Man, that was a farce- the Bulls defense was so stifling the Magic couldn't even bring the ball up halfcourt.
DWill was so damn good man, he and Paul were like the perfect point guards. He could score from anywhere, with or without the ball, created for himself and others, and had terrific physical tools. Sadly ego and motivational issues made his prime a fairly short one
In 2010: 'He's The Most Difficult Player To Guard, 365 Days A Year, 7 Days A Week. Roy Has No Weakness In His Game.' -The Late Great Kobe Bryant
Chris Webber made the HOF partly cause of his early achievements in college...IMO
That’s not just your opinion. That’s facts.
I feel like you could make this case for John wall and Demarcus cousins
I’m Tripping over the fact that Reggie Miller only has 5 all star appearances 🤯
It was hard to make the East as a 2 guard. Jordan always had one spot then was between Reggie, Steve Smith, Drazen Petrovic, and Ray Allen for the other spot
I love this kinds of videos you make. I think Shawn Marion deserve inducted in the Hall of Fame he anchor the defense of the suns team in mids 2000
Shawn Kemp needs to get in before all these players.
It's a travesty that Shawn Kemp is not in the HOF. His teams won. He was a 20 & 10 guy. 6x all star & he had played the same position in the West as Barkley & Karl Malone. Also a cultural icon and the most exciting player in the league. Shame on the Basketball HOF
Stars had monikers, he was the Rainman
100% healthy B-Roy was a problem in the league back then 🔥 A humble dude as well.
Griffin in his heyday was really a monster class superstar player.
His dunk shoots and alley-oops during the Clippers era were amazing.
Why does it hurt for each name you mention? Geeez. This list is on point. All promising and well rounded piayers not getting enough recognition for their outstanding talent! ☹️
On a more somber and unfortunate list, Reggie Lewis of the Boston Celtics and Drazen Petrovic of the New Jersey Nets. They were just about to hit their very promising NBA potentials when their lives were lost way too early.
Gilbert gets haircuts at my barbershop. One of the nicest guys I met who was famous. Told me Kobe stories no one knew about it
Derrick Rose & Blake Griffin were my favorite NBA players during the new millennium. This is a great topic!!!
A couple name that comes to mind for me is Danny Granger and Bargnani, Ruday Gay. Granger was a superstar on that pacers team was one of my favorite players
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf would've been in the hall, if the league didn't screw him.
league screwed him? he was just an idiot doing what he was doing...you do not mix your job with some religious stuff...
He's was blacklisted. Him and Craig Hodges
Brandon Roy, D. Rose, Penny, and Grant Hill always always hurt as a fan looking back at their careers. Especially B. Roy
D Rose should probably be in the HOF. Most of these guys could make the HOF
Amare still amazes me almost 15 years later I still got him the constantly the most powerful inside game I've ever saw. He goes in that paint an bodies hit the floor.
Hope u make more contents oftenly
Add Jerry Stackhouse to this list. He was a potential HoF but he also had the injury bug.
The part that people forget is that it's the BASKETBALL hall of fame not NBA hall of fame so they take high school, college and NBA into account so thats why C Webb made it. A lot of people on this list were good in the NBA but didn't have hella impact coming up.
If Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady were in the hall of fame despite having injury-laden careers, Penny Hardaway and Derrick Rose should be in too.
Idk I think rose will go in. Not just on the youngest MVP ever but the fact he continued to play an evolve a new game plan
Blake Griffin and Amar'e Stoudamire will make the hall of fame. I hope Penny Hardaway as well as Gilbert Arenas can make the hall of fame because I personally think they should make it in and deserve it. Not a lot of nba fans are rooting for Penny Hardaway and Gilbert Arenas to make the hall of fame. I do think Derrick Rose can make the hall of fame. I would not be surprised if Deron Williams and Brandon Roy can make the hall of fame. I want Brad Daugherty to make the hall of fame because of his accolades along with being a five time all star. He was a really underrated player especially during the 1980s and 1990s with Michael Jordan taking over the spotlight as well as other dominant teams too.
If Deron or Brandon Roy can make the HoF, Arenas for sure will.
Gilbert was right up there with Kobe and T-mac when it comes to scoring. He was one of a kind.
Really sad about b-Roy, he just can’t catch a break, come back after an injury, only for him to suffer a worst injury. He basically have to retire because of the injury. While most on this list were never the same after the injury, at least they still manage a good career in the end.
DeMarcus Cousins was sure fire HOF up until the Achilles and ACL injuries and his durability became an issue. I still think the Warriors should sign Boogie though.
Michael redd and Danny granger are 2 lesser known names that come to my mind that could of had Hall of fame careers
Back in the day Penny Hardaway is like a more athletic Magic Johnson too bad injuries derailed his career.
As a bulls fan the Derrick rose injury made me cry when I was a kid rose is my childhood hero man it hit me the most smh😔😔😔😔😔💔💔💔
I’m just glad tmac to the HOF.. if not he would be up there with Rose in this list. I was so happy for him when he made it he said it was a surprise to him. He knew other players respected him and the fans.. but finally the league acknowledged him.
Agent 0 was my favorite PG when i was a kid. If he had at least a 5 year peak he would have a real shot at the HOF. And a lot of guys from the 2000s love him for his personality, maybe that helps too.
As a Bulls fan who went to U of I Rose and D-Will hurt the most. Despite being the most rigged lotto since NYC got Ewing, it was a blessing to see Chicago’s very own have a chance to finally lead that team over the hump until injuries and the person he hired bc he thought he could trust him the most, his brother, ruined both his career and public image in the city that wanted to love him as much as we loved the GOAT.
As for D-Will, it was awesome to be on campus for that magical 2004-2005 run and later see him overtake Kendall Gill as the highest pick in school history. Unlike Gill who was a decent role player, he was a legit NBA superstar.
Also ironic that Roy was after D-Will on this list as his coming out party was when his Washington Huskies upset my Illini in the NCAA tourney.
Brandon Roy was looking like a top 50 all time player to me he had a lot of Jordan in his game
Before his injury Grant Hill might have been the best player in post Jordan Era. His last season of greatness was when he was just 27 years old and then suffered an injury that reduced him to JAG. Thankfully Grant Hill did enough by the time he was injured to still make the HOF!
Agent Zero and DR are hall of famer just for what they showed us on the court.
Two of my favourite all time players😍🐱
O'Neil done said multiple times that if Penny didn't get hurt he wouldn't of left the Magic
lets see you come back FULL strength and better after someone fall on your knee.. fyi some of the WORST injuries are when someone fall on you
Ralph sampson, tmac, kevin johnson, larry johnson, danny granger
The Orlando Magic have some of the worst luck in the league. From Penny to Grant Hill to losing 2 Hall of Fame centers to losing T Mac.
I wonder if some of these players may have been able to extend their careers if they had access to today's training and sports medicine. Players today start their careers with trainers and sports medicine staff analyzing their specific body type, their running and jumping motion, their physical weaknesses, and are given a prescription for how to build muscle to insulate and protect their vulnerabilities. Course some don't seem to follow this advice(Zion), while others seem to embrace it fully(Giannis).
Brandon Roy had that Mamba Mentality for sure
Acl and knee injuries altogether aren’t nearly as career altering today in 2022 as they were in the early 2000s. Wonder how a lot of these players would fair with today’s drs.
As a nets fan I didn't expect a deron Williams mention
If McGrady got in Drose should get in some point in the future...McGrady was a scoring beast but his injuries hurt his career a lil too...I think being the youngest MVP should have a lil bit of strength over just multiple all star appearances
Of all of them though , D-Rose is the one that has a chance to still make it to the HOF . Just cuz he came back and reinvented his game (popped 60 with the T-Wolves)
Brandon Roy I feel the most for though , he prolly was the best outside of Grant Hill and D-Rose
DRose injury was the saddest day in Chicago sports history we still hurt from that 🥲🥲
Stoudemire should be a hall of famer! He had a pretty good run from 2003-2004 to 2010!
Thibodeau has blood on his hands… deng, noah and rose played way too much minutes 🥲
True. Even in a blowout, the starters are still out there playing. Rumors say he never trusts his rookies.
Butler was smart to escape. I pray for RJ Barrett everyday he’s finally putting it together. Can’t believe the Knicks didn’t fire thibs.
@@mattmmixes also reddish
@@tj5180 reddish is not really putting things together sadly.
FACTS. Played that man 42 minutes every game and his body gave out
amare and blake would probably make it, just not first ballot
penny's case reminds me of grant hill... except maybe gh had a better ncaa career, a bit longer nba prime, and had some sort of a late career revival
Derek Rose has an MVP, he will likely still make the HOF
Penny was the MAN in those NBA Jam days! Him & grandmama Larry Johnson.
Blake is a six time all-star. He should get in the Hall of fame.
Gilbert Arenas, Brandon Roy ? Penny Hardaway & Derrick Rose imagine stay healthy whole career 🔥🔥🔥
I’m surprised Tracy McGrady isn’t on this list. He was a beast during his Orlando days. And when he went to Houston, him and Yao could’ve been champions if injuries didn’t plagued the both of them.
d rose and Brandon Roy injuries hit everyone hard
Imagine if Portland had a prime healthy Brandon Roy and Damian Lillard on the same team. They'd be the best guard combo in NBA history and possible champs to contend with Curry and Golden State.
Babe wake up andy hoops just dropped
Derrick Rose playstyle, the way he just gathers himself and lands, man I said to myself back then watching him in his rookie season, this guy won't last long with that style, it is so much painful to watch him play tbh..
This video is a prime example of what I been saying .
Basketball skills matter.
Once you lose athletics you can depend on your skill if you develop it . See Larry Bird see Joker no athletics but skill wise they superb
A lot of these guys unfortunately never had a second superstar or at least someone to help carry the load for a long time and their bodies unfortunately took its toll on them!! Damn shame!!
Kevin Johnson belongs on this list.
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