Rings of Power SDCC Reassures Fans With Circles! Hobbits & Harfoots Both Like Them CONFIRMED
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2022
- Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power has released the third trailer on Amazon Prime Video alongside an Entertainment Weekly Exclusive article. But with SDCC starting tomorrow we are getting even more news, and a full trailer from San Diego Comic-Con International.
Does this improve the confidence in JD Payne and Patrick McKay and their desire for a "blank slate" in J. R. R. Tolkien's LOTR rather than a more fleshed-out part of the IP? Or is this Lord of the Rings "based on" tv series another Wheel of Time?
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With San Diego Comic Con coming up there will be more LOTR: Rings of Power news (and trailer?) , Wheel of Time panels and a whole host of other news coming. Let alone all the articles that will be vying for access. I hope they have more convincing news than just hobbits like circles though! Are you looking forwards to anything at SDCC, and if not, what WOULD you like to see there? Let me know your thoughts below and as always, thanks for watching :)
@Casper Salisbury "Hey, just 'cause it's the theme song don't make it not true."
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please correct me if im wrong but, wasn't there a Dug-race podracer named taika waititi in Episode I?
There is nothing familiar about the “Tarfoots.” There ungainly feet and shambling gait is completely antithetical to the nimble, quick footed Hobbits. The proto-Hobbit “Tarfoots” seem to be intellectually challenged, bereft of levity, lacking spirit at least that is what can be gleaned from the litany of arbitrary trailers and teasers.
man don't do the nox dirty like that.
they looked far better.
They admire Tolkien's work the way Melkor admired Ilu'vatar's theme.
Amazing analogy
This right here.
this is so accurate!
They wouldn't understand that reference.
Perfectly said!
Here I was expecting the harfoots to use normal wheels that are rectangular like our doors. What a relief to hear they're using a funky circular design like the doors of hobbits instead.
They are not even supposed to be present until the third age.
You mean they aren't using tracks for their carts? Wow that's revolutionary
Applying this logic to Roman doorways also neatly explains the once mysterious arched wheels favored by the Greeks. You can practically feel the genius pulsating within this production ensemble.
Just ordered my oblong wheels cant wait for the spinal compression. Woooo!
Sheer genius to invent those circular wheels 😹!
I'm pretty sure Tolkien would be offended just by someone working on this that actually used the word "Zillion."
the infantilization of tolkien
Yes and of course they want a blank canvas bc all the lore and hard work is done so now their lazy woke writers can now take something original and complete and just add their wokeness to it and take complete credit. Too bad it’ll terribly suck anyways.
@@MalcomJuliaMorgan Interestingly enough this has happened in a lot of media considered "nerdy." D&D art went from horrid monsters and equally horrifying encounters rs between adventurers - often depicted as workers more than superheroes - to... Butterflies and dancing and singing, a lot of singing and smiles, coupled with a Percy Jackson approach to gods and downgraded to YA sort of approach. Nothing wrong with singing and dancing and such, but it's in the colors used. Even in 4E art where heroes were still depicted almost like superheroes, there was a gravitas to the art of worlds and creatures. In 5e, there is a lot of pastel colors, a lot of watercolor sploshes behind the art...
It says something about the demographic they are trying to aim this to. It's a bit less towards the literary fans or those that enjoyed Peter Jackson's take and more abiut that YA demographic.
@@sgshaday
Even 40k is moving that direction.
It's rather sad to see franchises which have been so loved and lasted so long, getting watered-down for the sake of increasing marketing appeal
@@sgshaday I remember DnD club being very fun in middle school until I realized just how far off everyone understood the true potential of the game, and whenever I try to start a campaign with more dark yet creative elements everyone else just want to dick around completely ruining a story I stayed up all night making. Now I understand that it was middle school so that explains a lot of the behavior.
The genius behind this show is palpable! Circular wheels… brilliant! How did i miss the symbolism, its not as if ALL WHEELS EVER ARE CIRCULAR OTHERWISE THE WHEEL DOESN’T WORK.
You know what; it's so obvious, that I didn't even realise. Maybe I'm as dumb as the creators of this show.
I personally feel like the wheels should be square
No one ever asked the wheels their preferred geometry.
Wheel cultural representation! We must ban all circular wheels!
Almost makes you wish hobbits had square doors. The chaos that would ensue whenever these devotedly co-ordinated square-wheeled carts wanted to go anywhere would almost be worth watching RoP for (almost).
If they wanted a “blank canvas” then why did the showrunners take on something that has extensive and carefully thought out lore? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Because LOTR has a built in fan base they can exploit, just like Amazon did for Wheel of Time (aka "Waste of Time").
How did they even land this job with that kind of portfolio? They must have gone to bed with everyone?!
Bezos flexed his wallet & he wont read anything more than 3 pages - there isn’t any other reason these people are employed than they wrote a 3 page synopsis that the boss liked
Automatic audience.
Because this was always about cultural subversion and iconoclasm. *They signed onto this project either with intent to destroy the IP, or were chosen by those seeking to destroy it based on their ineptitude and wanton ignorance of the IP.*
Ironically, the canvas was never completely blank -- not even when it came to Numenor -- but the showrunners deliberately corrupted whatever brushstrokes were already painted. For example, Tar-Míriel of Numenor was clearly described as "bright-eyed" and "fairer than silver or ivory", and she was the cousin of Al-Pharazon, who is played by a white actor. Despite this, the showrunners cast a black actress.
The late Numenorean royal family was so obsessed with longevity, a longevity inherited by bloodline, they must have been sickly obsessed with blood purity too. We must remember that Tolkien himself mentioned the obsession with blood purity among the exiled numenoreans.
So, it was impossible that the father of Míriel, Tar Palantir, had the opportunity to have an interethnic marriage, given the huge and dangerous opposition Palantir had at the time, as told in the Silmarillion.
All of this just tells us that Payne and McKay don't give a shit about the last decades of Númenor and the horrible social atmosphere of those years as described in the Silmarillion, an atmosphere which is similar to the last days of the pagan Roman Empire and the age of the Persecution of Christians or the rise of fascism in Germany and the Persecution of the Jews.
How dare you you racist
Representatiooooooon
@@FgtRtd The term racist doesn’t mean it anymore because it’s been thrown about sooooo much, no one believes anyone is racist anymore. Food is now racist. Hairstyles are now racist. Cultural appropriation means now we can’t eat Chinese food anymore.
@@gabrielcruz6752 Christians werent persecuted, it was the other way around, paganism and any books or events with pagan roots such as the olympics were banned on pain of death.
Going circle for the wheels like a hobbit door was definitely an improvement over the original idea of using rectangles like human doors.
They rewrite Tolkien and they reinvent the wheel. Really impressive!
@@sologirl7194 Just like what the PJ trilogy did!
@@princess7jasmine at least it was looking good and has a soul. Unlike this woke aberation.
@@maddriim People back then definitely didn't say that for the trilogy until it released
@@princess7jasmine lets see if the same thing happen to this thing then.
My hopes aren't high to be honest.
“Evil cannot create, it can only take someone’s life’s work and turn it into a steaming great turd” - Tolkiens ghost probably
They are not turning HIS lifework into a steaming turd. His life work is fantastic. The work of this piece of garbage will be terrible. I'd be using less kind words, but youtube would probably suppress it.
Underrated comment 😂
@@Meesterlijker to be Fair, you can find on almost every video about this serie the same quote, over and over.
@@federerlkonig330 usually it's the correct quote and not a parodied version of it
@@Meesterlijker Fair enough, i admit i Just Read the beginning.
A blank canvas implies that you create something from scratch, which is what I totally understand and respect from a creativity perspective. The thing is, they're not using a blank canvas, the canvas is already painted on and they want to "improve" upon it by completely painting over it, but still use the original artist as name of the creator and title as given by the original artist. You can't have both, either create something completely new, without reference to anything existing, or create something using work from the original artist, which requires to stay as close as possible to it as you can.
They want the Mona Lisa to stay the same, but are shading her skin
Think it's a poor choice of words. They probably should have said what they are trying for is something like the Mandalorian - completely new worlds (except for *&^% Tatooine), new characters, new costumes, but still referencing visuals that had been done before. And if a world has never been depicted before, you've got no choice but to start from ground zero.
Of course, that's sets and costumes. What they do as far as STORY - well, let's hope it's only 25-35% cringe.
Clearly there trying to make a crash grab on his name alone as it's very popular amongst his fans.. Massive backlash is happening..
The COVID-19 Coronavirus The Mona Lisa was actually a man. Diviici’s lover. Fun fact. Google it he painted him many times.
@@tonyray6867 I do not care how you take your penis.
All I want to know is Galadriel going to address the pay gap between elven maidens and elven warlord's?
To a lesser extent I'd like to know how they are going to handle hobbit gender issues. I understand they have over 1000 unique pronouns. Will they all be represented?
I'm picturing the rings inscribed with the many pronouns of each race 🤮
@@rocix.1647 ho my that would be the summum^^
The message
Probably not...but you can count on seeing her au natural if the "teaser" images are to be believed..
Poor Lady Galadriel, from badass elven queen, to some leftard neck beard's beatoff fantasy, Tolkien would be *livid*
Begging your pardon - but I believe the preferred nomenclature is "warperson". Many thanks for your sensitivity on this going forward.
PS. Please note that participants depicted in the sundry erotic trysts for which Tolkien is renowned should ideally be referred to as laypeople.
The reason the old work is no longer valued and preserved, is because they have to real link to it. The American founders talked about the reasons for this, foreign influence and migration. They said it always corrupts the identity and spirit. Instead of preserving, the new foreign influence would rather colonize it. Distort and reshape into their own. Diversity was always a poison pill.
And you see absolutely nothing ironic in quoting that particular group of people on the ills of foreign influences?
@@goblinbollocks2838 Nope, and you seem to lack an unbiased, objective historical record and application of said history as it relates to what you are alluding to, as well as how it is being applied within the context of my post.
Irony, even if you claim it is present, does not negate the truth of statements made.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, and then, it silences the good, or in this case, subverts it.
@@deuswulf6193 @DeusWulf you know if you'd just acknowledged the obvious irony, but said that you still stood by the fact the sentiment of the quote summed this situation up for you regardless, you'd have come across a lot more intelligent and grounded in reality than you have done by trying so hard to come across as intelligent with that absolute bollocks you came out with.
You quoted the founding fathers - of a colony that only existed because of mass migration from Europe to North America, and only thrived because of a race based system that forcibly moved Africans to North America, which decimated the indigenous populations of the nations it supplanted, and subjected another population to horror and misery - on the evils of migration and diversity. You could be an unapologetic proponent of genocide and race based slavery and still admit it's ironic that you would choose a quote from that source to get your point across, because you'd have to, because it is, you div. Do you know the worst thing about it all? The point you're trying to make is about a fucking fantasy TV programme, haha. Doesn't that make you feel just the tiniest bit pathetic at all?
I love Tolkien's works. My dad read them to me and my brother when we were kids. I've done the same with my son. They hold a very special place in my heart. I'm disappointed that this programme looks like it's going to be so shit. I don't necessarily share the same strong feelings about it, but I can even see where people are coming from when they say that forced representation in adaptations of things can detract from the immersion and be too drastic a change from the themes and aesthetic intended by the author. But the fact that you think it's that deep, when it's just a fucking TV show, tells me everything I need to know about the kind of sad, tragic existence you lead.
Tolkien's works still exist, you can still enjoy them, and you can ignore this piece of shit TV show. I plan to do both myself. Anyway, good luck to you and I hope you find something in your life that drags you into reality and puts silly things like this and the importance you place on them into perspective.
@@deuswulf6193 Well said and that's the end of that debate!🤣.
Mic drop. You burned that Goblin up so good he is nothing more than a pile of ash.
True story, I was in the writers room and we originally had triangle shaped wagon wheels. But the lead writer (who is a super duper fan) said hey everyone, why don't we make the wheels round like a hobbit door? And we all just looked at each other and smiled and agreed that's what Tolkien would want. Because we all love the lore, like a lot. You don't even know.
I was there. We all clapped.
And they gave him a bonus for such a brilliant idea!
I know Tolkien imagined his Middle Earth setting as a pre-Norman England, considering the UK & Ireland are still about 87% White people, 3% Black, 8% Asian and 2% other, I bet the Rings of Power will be more diverse than the modern UK is?
BTW, Where are all the Asians in Rings of Power?
If they’re really about “representation of the world we actually live in”, there should be 2 Asians for every Black person in this show, & I don’t recall seeing any Asian people in the Teaser trailers?
Are they using USA demographics to what modern society looks like?
Where are all the Latinos then?
Amazon, you Bigots!
Call them out on it!
That is actually really funny because it goes to show how much they don't care. The wokeists only see the "White Oppressors" and "Oppressed Blacks". So just black and white.
All of the sudden it matters what race is cast in a role when it used to be whoever fit the role best, but now it's if the role fits the person or some shit.
It's really infuriating being around with these pseudo-activists and philosophers here in America.
B-but black people no exist in my completely made up fantasy world that's only BASED off a real continent and not a 1-1 copy!
@@princess7jasmine White people are kind of diverse. It's like saying the only black people to exist are African-American. Or the only hispanics are Mexican. Or the only Asians are Chinese. Of couse no one cares to make the distictions though.
Representation is more important than logic or storytelling.
@@Notarealchannelok It's called sarcasm. I'm making fun of how people use the "it's based off Europe" as an excuse why there can't be darker skinned people in the setting
@@princess7jasmine My apologies then I didn't catch that, but yeah you're right.
You brilliantly put into words how I feel about new creators claiming to want to create something new, yet using the universe of a preexisting property to do it. They have no creativity and deep down inside they know they cannot create anything great.
It’s hard to create something truly original. It should be so easy but alas…. Just saddening.
They have creativity, however limited it may be. But they have no confidence that it can compete against old established franchise such as Star Wars, Star Trek, dr. Who, and now J.R.R.Tolkien's lord of the rings. That's why they can only "paste" their ideas into the established work and corrupted it until it doesn't resembles the original work.
@@gregorysaugustine5236 💯💯
@@gregorysaugustine5236 They could, If the interest of pushing an agenda or make social commentary on EVERYTHING doesnt come in the way of doing something of their own creativity. I like to think that there is good potential in creators today but Americans are so
bottle up with their cultural wars that it has tampered everything in media, everything. nothing is funny anymore, nothing is enjoyable, it is just pandering to people screaming they are not seeing themselves in every corner and thats a personal insult to them. weird times we live in.
@@juanestebanlopezquintero2948 💯✅. Indeed
Let me get this straight...the only reason the wagon has wheels shaped like that is in homage to Bilbo's door?!? So, otherwise it would have been a square wheel??
Oh, come on! Be fair. There are hills in The Shire.
It 's called a trans-triangle, don't spread hate speech
Perhaps it makes more sense when Kamala explaines it.
Don't be silly. They would use triangles.
Wasn't that a joke in the Flintstones...?
Drowning in peace sounds pretty appealing at this point 🤔
But seriously, blank canvases are great, its called writing your own story, they should try it sometime
They basicly said "We want to take the credit for Tolkien's story and world, but making it with our own ideas"
OH god I just guffawed when he said "The round wagon wheels are like the round hobbit doors" Oh my god I'm rolling that's too much for grown people to say or pull with a straight face
"The next cycle deals (or would deal) with the Second Age. But it is on Earth a dark age, and not very much of its history is (or need be) told." - From a letter by J.R.R. Tolkien to Milton Waldman 1951, The Silmarillion, Preface p. xviii
The story Amazon is trying to tell, shouldn't be told since it's the purpose of the author to have the Second Age as a "dark age", an age of which not much information is known.
One of the best examples of a creator working within an existing canon and still creating his own story and characters built upon that existing canon is Michael Stackpole. His work specifically in the Star Wars and Battletech universes not only stands on its own but added to the existing canon. For a lesson on how use an existing property and work within it while creating your own stories and characters see his work.
"Το κακό δεν μπορεί να δημιουργήσει τίποτα καινούργιο, μπορεί μόνο να διαφθείρει και να καταστρέψει αυτά που οι καλές δυνάμεις έχουν εφεύρει ή κατασκευάσει." - J.R.R. Tolkien
Honestly, I am just impressed that Google can translate this...
It’s all Greek for me…
@@535phobos Ikr! Try Google's "Hawaiian" translation, yikes! (Write the quote in English, then paste their "Hawaiian" translation and translate that back into English.)
If Google weren't so awful these days, someone like me would offer to help them improve their Hawaiian translation capability. But they've gone from "Don't Be Evil" to "Get Woke", so screw them.
Man I love the way you talk about this series... This series is clearly ruined by forced inclusion and ¨woke¨culture... Besides, none of what I've seen so far tells me it's something from the Tolkien universe, If I had seen all these images and trailers without knowing it's from The Rings Of Power, I had never guessed it was something related to The Lord Of The Rings, I showed them to my sister, who is a great fan of Tolkien books, she didn't know anything about The Rings Of Power, and she asked me if it was some new Game Of Thrones series.
I have a feeling they're going to do the same thing they did with The Wheel of Time, they had great books and the story already written, but it seems like they just threw them away and changed everything. I'll be watching your other videos man, I really liked the way you talk.
Greetings from México!
I agree, my friend. I'm also from México, but I'm a big Tolkien fan and seeing how they desecrate Tolkien's lore breaks my heart.
I also love Disparu and his commentaries about this series.
It’s not even the inclusion and woke ideas that kill the show, it’s the INTENTION behind it. Money. Amazon doesn’t give a crap about Tolkien or his work, they’re just using his creation and his world to make money. The woke thing is just en vogue right now, that’s why it’s in there. Whatever gets them more Klicks and money, they will use and include it. This is a huge money grab, nothing else. Cold calculation.
OMG. I saw that Hobbafoot and thought to myself. I feel like I saw these hippie things before.
BAM! You said it. The Box from SG1.
I had the exact same reaction, also realized why those stone heads looks so familiar, they look like the Na'vii from Avatar.
Pure arrogance is indeed the best way to describe these people. This whole project feels like giving your most prized possession to your toddler nephew and he starts to rip into it with dirty hands...
This is like taking the Mona Lisa and painting over her clothes, giving her a patriarchy-hating frown, adding goofy graffiti, and saying, "The old painting was problematic. I've made it better and expanded on it."
Accurate 💯💯💯💯
And finally, burning it to the ground out of sheer disdain and hatred
@@chasehedges6775 we can only hope
@@johndodo2062 Hope is a dangerous yet beautiful thing
Didn't a black guy remake the Mona Lisa but made her black?
Well, I know I certainly feel reassured, so I can consume the product and clap like a seal.
_"... Númenor was, in some ways, a blank canvas"._
The Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales:
*are we a joke to you?*
The dwarves of the Third Age were sensitive to the stone: read Gimli's monologue on what his people would do with the caves behind Helm's Deep.
Can you remember a word from it so I can find it?
@@thelordofdogs2166 "and they called it a mine! A MINE"
@@thelordofdogs2166 I think it's in the 'Road to Isengard' chapter. Gimli describes the Glittering Caves to Legolas as they are riding. It's a sumptuous description - one of my favourite passages in the whole book.
@@thelordofdogs2166 Are you using that nifty search site? Here's a quote:
"No dwarf could be unmoved by such loveliness. None of Durin's race would mine those caves for stone or ore, not if diamonds and gold could be got there. Do you cut down groves of blossoming trees in the springtime for firewood? We would tend these glades of flowering stone, not quarry them." - _The Two Towers,_ "The Road to Isengard."
Just gonna keep sharing these for the algorithm to get the message out there: Rings of Power is a brand new set of original "content" for a "franchise" that will be using the pre-established framework of Tolkien. It is a co-opting and a hijacking and it is NOT Tolkien. The only reason it's getting any attention or any credibility is because a corporation had a whole lot of money. I hope that people don't get fooled when they hit hard with marketing at comic con and upon its inevitable release. Hopefully it will get rejected like a bad implant.
They never want a blank canvas. They want a guaranteed fan base
“THEYVE GOT TO HAVE…. Money 💵
@@chasehedges6775 it’s mad, Peter Jackson got plenty.
"Wear blue to camouflage myself in the water so I can drown in peace" hehe
Personally, I don't watch any shows with less than a billion shades of blue. That's always been really important to my entertainment preferences.
" Why would I be wearing blue ? to camouflage myself in water so that I can drown myself in peace " f**king hell I died lol
If they wanted to be authentic to what the author intended, then they wouldn't have fired Shippey, that Tolkien expert.
This is just Beavis & Butthead's take on Middle-Earth.
Makes me want a movie of them going through Lord of the Rings now. It would probably be a better movie than this shit
Please I'm dying to know their other considerations for the shape of the wheels.
Well, they also had to ball wheel, the hover wheel and the very famous butterfly wheel. Luckily they realised that when most people look a wheels they think of hobbit doors, which is why most people have "no access" signs on their rims.
@@Ackalan > ... "no access" signs on their rims.
Beautiful.
They have the nerve to say ''We are doing what Tolkien wanted'', if Christopher Tolkien wasn't already dead he would definitely die from heart attack after reading these BS
God i want to slap these people!
If he was alive this wouldn't have been made.
This geometric similarity between doors and wheels that has been revealed to us has me all of a dither. Where can I donate hard cash in return for the boon of witnessing this phenomenon?
Imagine what would happen if those "showrunners" would go to Louvre, with their own paints and brushes to "expand" and "fix" Mona Lisa. Thats exactly what they're doing with Tolkien's work.
9:30 Why did they make Sauron look like an Aragorn I mean WTF lol.
If I were to be hired to direct something in, say, the Mario universe? I would personally use all the lore, all the build ups and explanations that have been put out there. Mario? He's from Brooklyn, and he was delivered by stork to a family in the Mushroom Kingdom, and he's held so many jobs, and he owns Donkey Kong (Or Cranky Kong)... ALL the lore would be canon, because I'm a fan, and I want to show that I'm a fan of whatever I'm working on. The fact that so many people being hired nowadays to do whatever just ignore the canon and lore? That just shows they're not fans.
Correct, as a hobby comic book artist, I can attest that when I created a fan work, I delighted in (skillfully) showing that I know my lore down to the last word, because I was proud to show how big a fan I was of the property. It's the entire reason I'd be spending my own time to draw a non-profit fan work and then uploading it online.
These tadpoles show that they just can't get away from the lore quickly enough, as if it's poison to them. This is the precise problem 1st-gen video game movies had - the writers/ directors had no respect for the original property.
@@Mlai00 Well because if they did what they wanted nobody would be interested. It would be Lord of the woke and every character would be omni-racial gender fluid bi-sexual persons with bright colored hair fighting the evil threat of mean words on the internet.
"Αλλά καθώς το θέμα εξελισσόταν, γεννήθηκε στην καρδιά του Μέλκορ η επιθυμία να συμπεριλάβει θέματα της δικής του φαντασίας, που δεν εναρμονίζονταν με το θέμα του Ιλούβαταρ· γιατί επιζήτησε μέσα από αυτά να αυξήσει τη δύναμη και τη δόξα του ρόλου που του είχε ανατεθεί." -Το Σιλμαρίλλον του J.R.R. Tolkien
"You have not seen what I've seen"
"I've seen my share"
"You have not seen what I've seen"
Well I'm sure that Elront will be surely convinced that Caladriel is right after this solid and thoughtful argumentation.
It is circular, therefore ingenious! It’s a direct reference to the titular ring!
Wot, Galadriel- got a stutter?
Amazon galadriel: "you have not seen what I have seen"
the Real Galadriel hasnt seen what you have seen or done.
Adapting written works is always risky. I did hear that Spielberg had wanted to do a LOTR adaptation but gave up saying it was just too difficult to adapt. If that is true, then at least he had the intelligence to realise that he couldn't do it justice. The Godfather, the Name of the Rose and L.A Confidential were other difficult works to adapt, but were, in the end, good adaptations because the core story, the themes and ideas were respected and were translated well onto the screen. LA Confidential even got the Oscar for best adaptation. So it is possible, in the right hands of course.
Those adaptations were from a better time, hell, LOTR's adaption was from a better time. How quickly we've fallen.
@@Garry_Combine Agreed
Funny, I always thought the “circular” design was somewhat essential, for a WHEEL!
The square ones don’t work so well.
That's racist
@@youeverseethesehandsfly5334 Shape-ist?
@@TheStacanova that's even worse! 😠
The scene with the dwarf cleaving the stone in half and "Their sensitivity is palpable" had me spitting coffee 🤣
It's almost as if the dwarf is Amazon and the rock he broke was Tolkien and his work
D&D did such a great job with the "blank canvas" they were given in Game of Thrones, didn't they? This is going to be a delight to see fail, just like every other adaptation or remix done this century from our beloved past.
Wait…the wheels are round like the doors because they are designed by hobbits…and the One Ring is also round…SO SAURON WAS A HOBBIT ALL ALONG?!
The elves too!? :O *Mind blown!*
Wow!
Pretty sure i heard somewhere about evil taking something and corrupting it. Where could i have heard that 🤔
"large, circular' wagon wheels"
I mean... that has to be tongue-in cheek. Or outright trolling.
Nice to know Disney is going to tag in Waititi for the IP gan-grapes of Star Wars. He did such a good job graping the perfectly viable Thor comic stories into unwatchable dreck; I have not watched a Marvel movie since Ragnarok, and it feels like I'm missing nothing. Already left Star Wars a while ago, but a vulture has gotta eat, and Waititi is a good vulture.
Bang on the money. I too have followed this journey. I now feel better for Avoidance rather than irritation.
So good seeing this channel grow and you getting the recognition you deserve.
HAIL DISPARU. Keep it up dude.
Yep! Every time I watch another video, you're up a couple thousand viewers. Well done! And you did it on a 40C (108F) day!!
You deserve way more subscribers, I really love your takes on “Rings of Power” etc. Keep up the good work and you will soon have 100k subscribers.
Bezos: "What's our plan to save this franchise?"
Executive: "They've come up with a new invention for the next trailer. They're calling it the Wheel."
Bezos: "Brilliant, what does it do?"
Executive: "Listen to this.... It makes the carts move on roads."
Bezos: "... You're fired?"
Executive: "AND IT LOOK LIKE A HOBBIT DOOR!"
Bezos: "Ingenious!"
"It's like a Wheel of Time!"
Perfect Video, Disparu! Bravo!
They should have gotten the rights to D&D and called the show The Forgotten Realms and been done with it. Almost no one would have cared if it was bad after that.
One comment with more sense than that shared by everyone involved in the slop to come
dang... a series like that could be fun. Especially because you have more freedom to make up your own characters and Choose Your Own Adventure.
I love all of your takes and appreciate your coverage :) I feel like you are a likeminded person, a true nerd (of the best kind) and a critical thinker of which there are simply not enough of in media coverage these days. I'm very happy to subscribe to your channel and must note that you not being extremely pushy on the matter is part of why I was happy to subscribe, of course the quality of your content being the main motivator. Long story short, you rock and I appreciate you
Humility and respect is too small for them.
Love your channel..you tell it how it is..will be fun to watch your channel grow!
I'm starting to think that 'show runners' are becoming a liability. Too often they're the ego that decides it's okay to joyride another creator's IP to destruction.
Keep up the great work.
Where unintelligent people over estimate their intelligence is called the “Dunning-Kruger Effect.”
I read a "fan fiction" of Illiad many years ago. The extra character helped with various tasks within the mostly untouched storyline. Forest Gump is sort of a pinnacle of this, in humorous way. I wonder if they could have done that within the Tolkien stories of this age? Is that new enough for them?
it would have been more creative with square wheels for their "blank canvas"
Well the thing is, what age is it? We have Isildur and Numinor existing at the same time, when Isildur was born thousands of years after the fall of Numinor. In other words its like if Forest Gump met up with George Washington, then went on vacation Marilyn Monroe. There is no time when that makes any sense even as fan fiction.
@@brendancoulter5761 Nope, Isildur was born in Numenor during the reign of Ar-Pharazon, his family lived in Romena a haven on the woast of Numenor. They were part of those who saw the catastrophe coming and fled to reign over Gondor and Arnor with those from Numenor still loyal to Valinor and never listened to Sauron.... The real problem is them being there and the fall Numenor being imminent while the rings aren't forged yet... which should have happened thousands of years before
A sort of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead set around the original trilogy could be cool, but not with Amazon running things.
@@brendancoulter5761 So how could Isildur have rescued a sapling from the white tree to take it with him to Middle-Earth before Numenor fell?
Tolkien rolls in his grave.
I can't wait to see them try to make warrior Hobbits make sense. Bullroarer Took, Merriadoc Brandybuck, and Pippin were exceptions and larger than usual.
They’ll make it a trans man of color and call you a bigot. That’s how they make sense.
Hobbits are great at missile combat. There is a famous troupe of Hobbit archers that aided Rohan. Bilbo himself threw a mean rock taking down spiders. As far as hand to hand combat that is rare, Bilbo does have a great uncle that was bigger than usual and fought orcs.
@@michellebeckham5310 Point taken, not that Amazon could be expected to know the lore. With the elven archer stereotype I expect elves will represent most of the missile troops. With their level of familiarity with the material I expect they'll work off Merry and Pippin, hand to hand.
All I have to say is well done on all the points you made in the video.
You are very wisdomous.
"Hobbits figured out that wheels are round." What a wonderful piece of worldbuilding that is.
They say that they want to distinguish themselves from the Peter Jackson movies but then also rip off iconography from those movies. Just look at the meteor crash site, it’s very clear that the pattern of flames is the eye of Sauron from the movies.
Because the fans can't decide if they want to cry over them not making it more similar to the Peter Jackson films or cry over having it be similar to the PJ films.
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Wtf is this bullshit?
You have NOT seen... round wheels.
It's an unfunny version of the argument clinic sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
"This isn't an argument! This is just contradiction."
"No it isn't."
"Yes it is!"
@@ggrarl nice! I can totally see it now lol
Young Ned Stark with pointy ears playing the part of Agent Smith remains confusing...
Great stuff, dude.!.!.!
It's never been about the lore, it's always been about money. Spaceballs points out the massive merchandising of star wars, they're hiding greed behind this artistry bs.
For them to suddenly switch tactics from attacking fans to appealing to their good side means that they are seeing the storm clouds approaching. Plus, waititi calling star wars a small story??? He ruined thor, probably knows squat about thor's lore and he says star wars is small???
Or more like they know attacking fans isn't a viable marketing strategy at all?
Damn, analysis was spot on
I remembered reading somewhere that Tolkien once remarked "I wrote the Oxford Dictionary, don't correct me"
There is no problem with them wanting a blank canvas - thats perfectly fine. The problem is that at the same time they also want the boost from name recognition that comes with writing / creating in an existing universe. The problems is existing universes have existing ruleas - lore, which is the very antithesis of a blank canvas. If you want to create in them its perfectly fine - but you have to adhere to those already existing lore and rules. This can feel indeed limiting but if you threat an existing IP as a blank canvas and ignore the lore you basically destroy it by trying to transform it to something thats your own - Tolkien I think would have used the word "corrupt". If you want a blank canvas you can have one: create your own universe.
iv said it countless times... i love the way you get your point across XD
Love your content!
Thank god amazon invented the wheel, or I'd be sat here wondering what was going to replicate the hobbit doors!
"You've not seen what I've seen"
"I've seen my share"
"You've not seen what I've seen"
Meanwhile Tolkien rolling in his Grave.
“We wanted a blank canvas.”
Then make your own story?
Peasant 1: "What odd kinda wheels ya got on that wagon?"
Peasant 2: "Oh, these are Hobbit style wheels... they're round ya see, like thar doors. Thats how ya know ya got a Hobbit wheel."
Peasant 1: "Say... that does look a wee better than my square wheels... made by men."
SPOT ON. Well said.
I think you can create something worthwhile that is in the same universe as a given work (i.e. see Knights of the Old Republic). However, taking ESTABLISHED characters, nations, and peoples and completely changing their essense from what the original creator of the work intended is just terrible (i.e. the character assassination of Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi). If they want an original story with "representation", set it in Harad and feature Kamul the Easterling as the big bad, include the Blue Wizards as key protagonists. That could've been awesome and that basically is a blank slate. But polluting established lore is not in the least bit awesome.
This idea sounds awesome but we'll never get it because Amazon has no creativity.
I do love me dem circles 5 stars
You are really gifted for communication!
Well said!
They created something different that fit their ideologies and dogma, then slapped on someone else's name on it to try and attract a fanbase because the fanbase for their ideological dogma doesn't exist. Now they're mad at Tolkien fans because the fans caught them on a lie.
At what point, if ever, do these people get introspective and understanding?
This is exactly why i started writing fantasy novels, I'll write my own great stories.
Good for you !
@Char 💯
Good luck, hope you create an incredible world
It looks like Dunning-Kruger effect doesn't only apply to science, but also art and entertainment...
familiar yet fresh. right. totally not a contradiction.
Did no one tell these people no one cares about what they want? Certainly not in a LotR production.
I would hope you do a video on this in the near future, because this let's us peer into the mind of Mr. Tolkien.
He was a TRADITIONALIST, specifically when it came to his Catholicism. He had many concerns when the Church started to implement the changes of Vatican 2 Especially, the introduction of English and removal of Latin from the Mass or Novus Ordo.
There is no way in "hell" he would approve one iota of Amazon's Cultural Marxism to his life's work.
By the way the way he never once attended a Novus Ordo mass.
Blame the Tolkien Estate
Ahh yes the circular doors of the hobbits are mirrored by their circular wheels. As opposed to humans whose rectangular doors are mirrored by rectangular wheels.
Amazon: "the fans will like this! We swear"
Also Amazon: "form ranks ya maggots!"
Fans: "rohirrim Charge across Pelenor it is!"
Or as I like to post on the comments Whereas Melchor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their works he destroyed if he could.
Initially, the "you have not seen what I have seen" exchange between Galadriel and Elrond confused me. Then it hit me. She must have been referring to Elrond's anus, something that he could only have seen for himself with a bit of dedication and a judiciously placed mirror, but one would assume it's something that he wouldn't catch sight of in a mirror or a shop window just walking by. I don't think I'm going to bother with this show. This just isn't on par with Tolkien's standards at all.
AY UP DISPARU
Thanks!