2122 Tetrataenite Powerful Magnets Without Rare Earths

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  • čas přidán 7. 12. 2023
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  • @totherarf
    @totherarf Před 5 měsíci +11

    Magnets depend on shape. We are developing new materials to be super magnets ....... Does that make Tetrataenite the "Shape of things to come"? ;o)

  • @dennissorensen8765
    @dennissorensen8765 Před 5 měsíci +7

    There isn't a single channel I adore as much as this. I absolutely love it. Robert! You and your son makes the most interesting content ... in the world! 😎 (That last bit should be read in the voice of Jeremy Clarkson, obviously. 😉)

  • @lindastone6868
    @lindastone6868 Před 5 měsíci +4

    What is the H&S executive doing to mitigate all these people tripping over all this iron?

  • @me1ne
    @me1ne Před 5 měsíci +3

    The C-situation concerning magnets has been bothering me for quite a while. This is great to hear. Thanks mate.

    • @MikeyCanuck123
      @MikeyCanuck123 Před 5 měsíci +1

      'C-situation'... never seen it put that way. Are we not allowed to say the 'C-word' in polite company now??? 😂

  • @Mattinblack
    @Mattinblack Před 5 měsíci +4

    Thing is monopoles have a linear rather than a quadratic intensity falloff so greater flux at distance which has obvious implications for generators eg higher flux across the whole winding.

  • @dans-designs
    @dans-designs Před 5 měsíci +25

    great video Rob! Are you going to try and make a magent from this Tetrataenite - that would be cool!

    • @natecus4926
      @natecus4926 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I would love to see that!

    • @wurstelei1356
      @wurstelei1356 Před 5 měsíci

      @@natecus4926 Me too!

    • @maranmarantakeiteazie
      @maranmarantakeiteazie Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@natecus4926 I think the iron and ammonium nitrate to make iron nitride magnet (previous Rob video) is achievable. I've got a national geographic stone polisher. Plan to load up with ball bearings, iron powder and a nitrate salt - not sure what the requirements for pressure and temperature though so might be wasting my time.

  • @maranmarantakeiteazie
    @maranmarantakeiteazie Před 5 měsíci

    necessity is the mother of invention.........we need to see this in others areas of industry.....and the current climate is ripe for it. Brilliant Rob!

  • @gaiustesla9324
    @gaiustesla9324 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thinking is the most valuable asset we'll ever have.

  • @ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ld
    @ShafaqIftikhar-pw9ld Před 5 měsíci

    Great video. Thank you for the upload Robert.!!!

  • @daveh6356
    @daveh6356 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Fascinating video. It would be interesting to know how they came across Phosphorous as the key to creating the desired 'crystalline' structure - whether it was by chance or specifically engineered. I thought we would have the ability to model this kind of reaction in detail by now so we could progress chemistry to alchemy.

    • @ACTSRevolution
      @ACTSRevolution Před 5 měsíci +1

      Strong magnets always need a hardener. Carbon, Boron and Phosphorus are well known hardening dopants. Anyway, plain iron can rival Nd magnets, not sure of any hardener or wierd processing.

    • @dogodogo5891
      @dogodogo5891 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@ACTSRevolutionwow nice info about hardener, anyway what's your opinion about candidate iron nitride?

    • @ACTSRevolution
      @ACTSRevolution Před 4 měsíci

      @@dogodogo5891 I just saw something about a re-figuring of Einsteins photoelectric effect Nobel work as a photomagnetic or quantum magnetic effect - electronic switching of magnetic fields. Maybe a magnet motor is really possible?

    • @dogodogo5891
      @dogodogo5891 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ACTSRevolution wow wow calm down i am not into einstein quantum things LOL, i am just ponder if easy accessible material probably can be reproducible in backyard lab you know just mix that and that charge in huge coil, and voila we've got huge strong magnet from home

    • @ACTSRevolution
      @ACTSRevolution Před 4 měsíci

      @@dogodogo5891 the idea of a metallic hardener is really just that. Electrical copper used in high-flux magnetic applications is always better new than used because it is harder from the drawing process, and becomes annealed in use. The idea is to lock crystal boundaries in place as firmly as possible to provide higher coercivity (i think coecivity is right - maybe its some saturation point, i dunno)

  • @Mattinblack
    @Mattinblack Před 5 měsíci +3

    Don't know if you realise it but magnetic monopoles have just been discovered to exist in hematite. Much stronger at a distance than dipole magnets. Maybe if you crushed some up in your spice grinder you could isolate some. Be easy to sort just bring a weak magnet covered in clingfilm near the powder and the bits that fly up first are the monopoles...

    • @gshingles
      @gshingles Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was going to mention this. There is an article in SciTechDaily (and no doubt others based on the same press release), "Magnetic Revolution: Diamonds and Rust Rewrite Physics Textbooks". Hyperbolic headline, but it is interesting, mainly relating to the data storage potential.

  • @sinenomine9093
    @sinenomine9093 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love hearing about things like this, you made my day, thanks!

  • @hoofheartedicemelted296
    @hoofheartedicemelted296 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Mr Smith, have you ever considered building a laser even a nitrogen laser? I enjoy the videos were you explain the minutiae in detail since you are mostly hands on, then hearing an explanation video is like an over the shoulder in the captain's ready room ( star trek reference ). Thanks for the magnet video sir.

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben Před 5 měsíci

    happy holidays, Sir. I offer my thanks to you for sharing this wonderful news!

  • @fredericrike5974
    @fredericrike5974 Před 5 měsíci

    A famous speech about space, one that went "In ten years, we will go to the Moon!" is also part of everything we are talking about for the environment today. Personally, of all the ways a government can waste money, that one has done more to lift up man than most others. Thanks, Robert!

  • @corkycorner3232
    @corkycorner3232 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks, very educational

  • @brandonkluck
    @brandonkluck Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge in a way I am able to comprehend and understand, creating an ability (in me) to apply.

  • @paddy2661
    @paddy2661 Před 5 měsíci

    Awesome info as always Robert , I've heard about (Niron magnetics) made of iron and something else and can be energised once installed into a powerful large motor or generator.

  • @stewartpalmer2456
    @stewartpalmer2456 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Danger Will Robinson! Danger! Dr. Smith has discovered a new chemical formula. LOL So, when are you going to try making some in your kiln?

  • @hippie-io7225
    @hippie-io7225 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great news!!

  • @AdamBechtol
    @AdamBechtol Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the update.

  • @boatifullife4161
    @boatifullife4161 Před 5 měsíci

    Well of course we need to make some giant magnets now!
    Neodymium ones are so exensive!

  • @gerryplayz4532
    @gerryplayz4532 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Hi Rob, after seeing lab grown diamonds I often wonder if that process would work for everything else, like could you put seed of anything you wanted in and grow it?

  • @Xero1of1
    @Xero1of1 Před 5 měsíci

    What are the odds you could get your hands on a chunk of Tetrataenite to experiment on?

  • @unicornadrian1358
    @unicornadrian1358 Před 5 měsíci +1

    One of the common uses of tetrataenite is making fake meteoric iron to sell as the real thing. It’s a decent sized market.

  • @robertlavedas4964
    @robertlavedas4964 Před 5 měsíci +4

    No one sells these magnets, that I can find, tech is too new, as to being able to make it cheaply,
    That and the reason we are at war with the cartels is not the drug/human trade , it’s the discovery of lithium deposits in Mexico!

  • @emptyhollow6707
    @emptyhollow6707 Před 5 měsíci +1

    magnets from SPACE! :D

  • @don_lock
    @don_lock Před 5 měsíci +1

    VERY interesting indeed! And important for the world, with 'political disagreements' all about. Now we don't have to fight wars for powerful magnets (which magnets will surely become more and more important over time). I am surprised that this has not been reported more widely since the discovery in 2022. Yahoo!

  • @satinsteeldad
    @satinsteeldad Před 5 měsíci

    I love being educated properly that's why I watch your vids

  • @stephenbrough8132
    @stephenbrough8132 Před 5 měsíci

    Exciting stuff!

  • @jitone1
    @jitone1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    are you going to try to make your own magnet?

  • @jacobe2995
    @jacobe2995 Před 5 měsíci +1

    fyi I noticed after fallowing your channel youtube started recommending me a bunch of quack channels trying to say they had a 'free energy' device. I am mentioning this because I fallow a lot of other science channels and never had youtube do this so it makes me believe for some reason your channel was added to a list of quacks. I don't know how you can fix that but I thought I should let you know.

    • @jholland404
      @jholland404 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Could be recommending them
      because Robert, in his past videos has debunked a few of those types of videos. Just a thought.

  • @philip5940
    @philip5940 Před 5 měsíci

    And so you showed us niron previously which seemed pretty good to me . This tetrataennite requires nickel which isn't cheap itself or so healthy. Then there was a wrinkle in the stockmarket over something recently , oh , i think that the lithium sector .

  • @kurtandlazanneilander724
    @kurtandlazanneilander724 Před 5 měsíci

    Make some! 😎

  • @teslar1
    @teslar1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Watched this before, why the re upload. Oops I guess us members will have to get used to this

  • @robinramkhalawan468
    @robinramkhalawan468 Před 5 měsíci

    Is there a link to the paper

  • @andrewharpin6749
    @andrewharpin6749 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hi Robert, could you add a link to the paper please? Had a search but struggling to find it

    • @TuttleScott
      @TuttleScott Před 5 měsíci +3

      google Tetrataenite and the 3rd result has an article from cambridge with a link.

    • @andrewharpin6749
      @andrewharpin6749 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@TuttleScottwas searching google scholar, but that worked, thanks :)

  • @simontemplarGB
    @simontemplarGB Před 5 měsíci

    But the total global production of Nd is only around 24 000 tons per annum.

  • @R2NOTU
    @R2NOTU Před 5 měsíci +1

    😅great information

  • @patricklyons7683
    @patricklyons7683 Před 5 měsíci

    Very interesting that it comes from space.

  • @amphibiousone7972
    @amphibiousone7972 Před 5 měsíci

    Good Stuff 👍😊

  • @HWJJSCHUMACHER
    @HWJJSCHUMACHER Před 5 měsíci

    what is with magnitsed iron (Fe) ???? why cant we use this ???

  • @crazyguysadvice
    @crazyguysadvice Před 5 měsíci +1

    I just love tetrateanite. if I could smelt it at home, and toss in some phosphorus, and then pour it into moulds. I mean, first i would need someone like your's' help to make moulds to mould clay to bake as the final mould. hen mix the iron nickle an phosphorus to spice it up, and bam i have tetrateanite magnets of th design my doddy drive would require for its much large stator and letivating rotor. I just love bizmuth also and I wonder if it could someohow be added to the design or if it would be necessary. The top layer of the balanced-in-spinning levitating rotor with angled serrations for movement and flat panes for slability over the similarly surfaced stator, should have its field decoupled fom the NSNS cicular arrangement of magnets that induce charge in the removable variable clutched coil. I wish I could have a second chance at life so I can study high school science thorough, and math, and get anothe go. my father is a retired computer science lecturer who love swearing and hoarding trash that I can not remove or clean as it would require several truckloads (about 2 in total).
    Hopefully I can escape Africa for EU/UK and find help there someday, I am no fool and would make meticulous pieces of art also (2D) paintings with semiotically patterned brush strokes to convey information in colour gradients of shapes and, thes patterned semiotics conveying colourful mood to the shape and embed hidden meaning. I just love this channel. I just obsess and tetrateanite because I could melt it at home into molds of my design, although calculating how big it would need to be to put out the correct VOLTS / amps / watts is beyond me. it's just to power computers and lights and what not. so the size of the object and size of the rotor and the array of NSNS magnets, the spinning speed and the air pressure within the chamber would define the efficacy of the design. maybe someday ill be lucky enough to be in a context where it could be tried its really a dream of mine.

    • @stoneomountain2390
      @stoneomountain2390 Před 5 měsíci

      You need a copper or aluminium container, press, electromagnet and to be able to heat the mix to around 570K, tin won't even melt.

    • @crazyguysadvice
      @crazyguysadvice Před 5 měsíci

      @@stoneomountain2390how strong would tthat press and electromagnet need to be. Why doesn't someone start tetrateanite magnet molding company. Create molds with thingyverse, and create casts for ingots, from plplastic to whatever. Or make laser cut magnetc.? Such a company would have a design room where people interactive or even remotely via vide conferencing on thingyverse desin magnets to a person's specifications, but then use those to cast clay molds, that can be sintered, into which the molten allow can be poured, to get the exact shape of desired magnet one wants... because I doubt I could the giant press ...I mean my idea has a very specific design of magnet for the stator and rotor (although I've consiered variations). I really want a very large one at home, enough to run our house at 240V, as I'm in South Africa and the power goes out daily for 4-10 hours, 2 hours at a time.

    • @crazyguysadvice
      @crazyguysadvice Před 5 měsíci

      What would the press and electromagnet do? Can't I just pour the molten teanite into the mould, or does the strong electromagnet's presence at this stage cause the domains to align to the extent that the electromagnet is powerful, hence forming the degree to which their domains are aligned, transferring hthe electromagnet's intensity into the domains of what then would become tetrateanite from the molten teanite (with added phosphor as catalyst) in the molds?? @@stoneomountain2390

    • @crazyguysadvice
      @crazyguysadvice Před 5 měsíci

      I was also just thinking there could be a light non-magnetic metal planar disc on the tetateanite rotor, that is thin but has a much wider radius, so hat the magnets , the SNSNSN circularly arranged magnets have a far larger radius to spin on.Bbut in this case the rotor could be like the bottom of an oyster mushroom wih serrations, and flat planes, and fan out wider. So that on that on the top disc is this clockwork arrangement of NS manets with a very wide raadius without destabilizing the spin of the levitating rotor. The wider radius would also allow for a larger number of magnets and couldn't a ton of coils be arraanged around it also where the NSNSNS magnets spin horizontally, i.e. a vertically array of coils so there are multiple very large coils connceted to a parent coil?@@stoneomountain2390

  • @dvhx
    @dvhx Před 5 měsíci

    Rare earth = Does not concentrate by common hydrothermal processes

  • @thekaxmax
    @thekaxmax Před 5 měsíci

    Note a British car motor that uses no permanent magnets; rotor and stator are both aluminium electromagnets. No rare metals. Power transmission to the rotor is brushless, using microwaves in a waveguide.

  • @pavanbiliyar
    @pavanbiliyar Před 5 měsíci +2

    When i was in college for engineering in a class called material science, our textbook had a list of materials ordered by their magnetic permeability. The idea is that different materials can amplify the magnetic force developed through the center of an electromagnetic solenoid.
    Air has a factor of 1.0, iron is in the thousands, neodymium is under under 100,000 level. I was curious what materials exist with the highest levels in existence.
    Between a value of 750k up to one million is SuperMalloy. It's some 80% nickel, then chromium and iron as a fraction.
    I don't know how available it is nowadays, although a cousin material called Permalloy is sold in sheets as magnetic shielding for electronics. The permeability is closer to neodymium.
    SuperMalloy comes off as a controlled wonder material.

  • @Zane.Wellnitz
    @Zane.Wellnitz Před 5 měsíci

    Maybe we can make anythng into a magnet if 3D printed into the right structure with a microscopic 3D printer nozzle

  • @user-um9sl1kj6u
    @user-um9sl1kj6u Před 5 měsíci

    Has anyone made a graphene magnet? Or even a carbon nanotube magnet yet?

  • @tonybennett3904
    @tonybennett3904 Před 5 měsíci

    Super vid

  • @MrElciupacabra
    @MrElciupacabra Před 5 měsíci

    you didn't say anything about obtaining process of the tetra stuff so anybody could do it

  • @rodh2168
    @rodh2168 Před 5 měsíci

    Does this mean Tut's knife is magnetic?

    • @AtlasReburdened
      @AtlasReburdened Před 5 měsíci +1

      Probably not, because it most likely had to be heated and forged into shape, thus destroying any tetrataenite structure.

  • @mattg6472
    @mattg6472 Před 5 měsíci

    Make some. Doesn't that suggest meteorites are making it quickly as well with a bit of phosphorus? Why millenia ?

    • @pineberry212
      @pineberry212 Před 5 měsíci +1

      They didn't realize the phosphorus was key to making it, they knew it was in there, but didn't know it helped form the structure.
      I may or may not have spent a month trying to figure out how magnets form around when that breakthrough came out.

    • @mattg6472
      @mattg6472 Před 5 měsíci

      @@pineberry212 thanks pine berry. Can you make some ? It requires pretty high temp ? Or does the phosphorous catalyst bring down the formation temp ?

    • @mattg6472
      @mattg6472 Před 5 měsíci

      @@pineberry212 so there is phosphorus in meteor to make the tetrataenite form quickly. Why must millenia be invoked ?

    • @pineberry212
      @pineberry212 Před 5 měsíci

      @@mattg6472 I haven't tried it yet, I don't think my jewelry furnace can get hot enough to alloy iron, but I am planning to try making it at some point, I have some experiments I want to try. I'm not sure how I'd get the phosphorus in the solution without it burning away, I have a few possible ideas, but they might not work. I'm not exactly a materials scientist you see.
      The issue they had was they tried to make the alloy without the phosphorus, and concluded that it'd take a millennium to form "naturally". But someone tried it with phosphorus more recently, and saw the quick results, and realized that's how it forms naturally.

    • @mattg6472
      @mattg6472 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@pineberry212 ok I get it now thank you pine berry

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