India's Pragmatic Stance on Russia-Ukraine Conflict Explored: Insights from Joe Rogan and Mike Baker
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- In a thought-provoking discussion between Joe Rogan and Mike Baker, the duo delves into India's intriguing position regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict. While many nations express concerns and condemnations over Russia's actions, India, alongside China, chooses a different approach, refraining from harsh criticisms and opting to remain neutral. Both countries avoid labeling the situation as a war or invasion orchestrated by Putin. India, particularly, possesses a historical and enduring relationship with Russia, and this affiliation influences its cautious stance. The conversation further explores the potential impact of global sanctions on Russia, as some envision severe consequences for the nation's economy and people. Surprisingly, India and China perceive this situation as an opportunity, rather than a deterrent. Notably, the discussion also sheds light on India's significant support from its population, who strongly align themselves with Putin and Russia due to the long-standing military cooperation and technological advancements provided by the latter. Join Joe Rogan and Mike Baker as they unpack the complexities of India's diplomatic approach and its potential implications on the larger geopolitical landscape.
US Navy 7th fleet tried to attack India in 1971 but USSR Navy protected India
Russia helped china in 1962 war
@kimjongun2775 Russia didn't help China. Russia didn't want to go against China, so it was not aligned. We are democratic country and understand Russia's stance in 1962. Learn history and use your own name before commenting.
@@preethamkumar125 Hahahahah bhai ne roast kar diya,,,,
@@kimjongun2775China demolished 1000 of mosque & made them public toilet
@@kimjongun2775no they didn't 🤣...literally at that period sino soviet split was slowly starting ....instead Americans & hypocrite kissinger helped China against USSR during sino soviet split.
When west and USA were arming Pakistan and refused weapons to indian,,,, Russia helped india 🇮🇳
They still doing it in 2023. Even the most wanted Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan yet 😂
That doesn't even cover it. They were armery and funding Pakistan against their own sanctions knowing that Pakistan was doing a genocide of millions of Bangladeshi people. They tried to suppress the discussion at un and threatened media to not report on it. on the phone Nixon & kisserya were joking " These are not good Christians. No cone cares about a bunch of brown moslems killing each other on the other side of the world" see, their policy has not changed one bit. They scream about Ukraine but who talked about Biden's latest wars, genocides and manmade famines in Mali, Burkina Faso and Sudan? or his arming and funding of terrorists in congo. Biden is doing an armed Insurrection against the results right now.
And you still moving to same US and Europe, instead in lovely Russia lol
@@markomaric903 i am indian student and i study in russia , way better people than americans open to different cultures
@@zam219 look, you dont have to talk to me about Russia, when i am a Slav lol
Second, your opinion is irelevant, but only the numbers. Why 99% indians going to live and study in US ans West, and not in such a great Russia? Coz if you will talk there against a Putin, you will end up with bullet in your head
Third, I m also working with russians lol in Russia is so great, that most of them want to move on the West. They all just think how to take their families to Germany
My friend has a company there....he says that country is not a wild west, it is a jungle. He dont have to tell me that, coz all nations that could run away from them, they run. In the end I m a Slav, i know their mentality
If you didnt learn the history, you can always ask half of Europe how was under russian boot in USSR. 120 million people. Enough evidences
I’m Indian American. And I’ll say that the U.S. fucked up big time in 1971. We pushed India to Russia.
Meanwhile American colleges are literally filled to the brim with students from India. No really why tf do so many people from India come here for education?!😂 they are smart over there, probably smarter than we are here.
US is still at it. Extending life support to Pakistan, promoting & protecting Khotestani terrorists.
Also, while US continues use China boogeyman scare in the region yet shamelessly continues to do business with China.
They F-ed up before that also.
They fucked up multiple times
It's true bro 👌👍👏
He is cleverly avoiding saying that US sent war ships against India and the Russians who supported India in tough times.
they only show their story, or don’t know the facts
That was not war ship you dumb. That was nuclear war ship and they were threatening to nuke india like Japan. And india would be now half destroyed by nuclear bombs or part of Pakistan if Russia (USSR) didn't help us that time because USSR also brought it's nuclear submarine and due to two nuclear country conflict possibility us backed off
Russia doesn’t play dirty games with India like the US does !
Pls explain
@@gigalipufpokemon1799The US was funding and arming terrorist organisations like taliban, infact Osama bin laden was a cia operative first. And in a time when india was fighting a dictatorship usa was arming them and not selling to India, that when Russia helped us by selling arms at a crucial time.
@@gigalipufpokemon1799 lol do you play pokemon unite ?
@@gigalipufpokemon1799 let me explain
He's saying is that US and west in general do biased news about india for example human rights etc........ they only support us when we act like there slaves . They always support pakistan. On the Other Russian supports india on every issue and don't do any biased news reporting.
And they are not racist against indians unlike west . They treat us as equal. Were WEST treats us like we are inferior and poor and weak
@@gigalipufpokemon1799 USA opposing INDIA for buying S-400 missile system from Russia ,in recent years only, 2015-16 or around
-USA sanctioned USSR for not providing INDIA with Cryogenic engine For our SPACE agency ISRO( literally,thats rude ,why do you have problems ,when someone wants to Grow).
-USA giving threat to INDIA for making NUCLEAR Weapons ,but thanks to our BRAVE leader (Shri.Atal bihari bajpayee).
-A pro-Pakistani stance in nearly all 4 wars happened b/w INDIA and 🐷.
Plenty of REASON to be ANti-USA. but ,tried hard and can't find a single reason to Hate RUSSIA🇷🇺 🫡
Western propaganda doesn't work with indians 😂
Yet they run to the west in droves, why not ruskieland?
Yeah they trying to paint it like we support Russia because Russia helped us and not because we know US is the one kindled this WW3
But the Zionist BS runs well there
That’s the neat part it does
Before they’re not dumb like the ukranians
Bangladesh might forget India but we never forget Russia
रूस और इस्राइल
@@rlb_18 dude jews hate idol worshippers,u have no clues about racist zionist..just because they're killing muslim you’re supporting them. WHAt else can we expect from a cow worshipper 😂
It’s because Bangladesh is a Muslim majority and for them the Islam and their followers matter and no one else. Those radicals will cut the same hand that feeds them if that hand belongs to a non Muslim.
I am Bangladeshi and i will forget 24 version of india and remember 71 version of india.even71 version of india disown u guys..the 24india gov promote rss and indian hindu accepting it.bulldozers,destroying mosque even your court says no tepmple was under babri mosque court hearing..using Bollywood & media spread hate specialy towards muslim.hijab..its a matter of time for india becoming israel theres no doubt...
True. From now on we should only help our nation
The better question is why USA, EU, UK etc funded and actively supported a military dictatorship in Pakistan and also heavily invested in communist China...but opposed democratic India.
They will cry at their mistakes very soon
Definition of a friend to Indians is way deeper than any western country could understand
Are there more Indians in Russia or the collective west? Apology accepted goofball...not!
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yep ❤️
India is not a reliable friend. It always flips out.
Really, then why you moving to US and West, and not in Russia, if they are your so called, good friends? Why you moving to country that arms your enemies? You know why? Coz anyone can buy you for dollars...so deep your friendship is 😂
'I (India) am not on the fence , I am standing on my ground' - words by Mr. Jaishankar to be remembered. That is the only valuable statement about India's stance towards Russia Ukrain situation to be considered. Nothing else.
Yes
That fellow is an idiot. Messed up foreign relations
research the history behind the ukraine war. How can russia allow nato at its doorstep, I’m sure america will not allow russia to have a military base in cuba. Just stop and think about it.
We Indians will never forget what Russia did to us. Always grateful to them for helping us!!!
Unlike some countries, we dont change sides for our benefits...our friendship with Russia stays forever.
Слава матушке Индии 🇮🇳 и матушке России 🇷🇺
Long Live India Russia friendship 🇮🇳🇷🇺.
We Indians always consider as our best friend. In fact, it's written even our school and college books that Russia is the only time tested and true friend of India.
We Indians are not traitors. We remember who remained with us when we needed the most. We are so much greatful to Russia ❤️.
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Well said brother ❤
Long live Indian- Russian Friendship 🇮🇳🇷🇺
Once a brother always a brother 🗿🗿
Indian have never forgotten the role of west and Ukraine when they supported Pakistan and only Russia came to the rescue unconditionally
Well technically it was ussr
@@gigalipufpokemon1799Both are the same to indians especially because Russia is a kind of successor of USSR to indians that's the reason Russia's attitude didn't change to india after the 1991
Israel helped too
@@gigalipufpokemon1799 DNT TEACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO TEACH
@@shikhartiwari3732 🤣🤣 ok understood
We indians are very emotional when it come to take side of our friends 😊😊
As an Indian I will support Putin and Russia no matter what
Indians and Russians have a history of friendship bond when all the western countries tried to send their armed forces in support of Pak in 1971. It was the Russians who stood by us we will never forget about this and we are indebted to the USSR for their assistance and today it's our turn to give it back to them 🙏
No matter what?
That's hyperbole that has you supporting Russia kidnapping Ukrainians kids and sending them to reeducation camps. World will remember that
Indian and especially Hindus are known to stand by friends. Russia and Isarel are the two countries that India will not stop supporting because of the help they have provided in the time of need.
Jai Shree Ram.
Russia definitely yes, Israel not so much, they helped us once but for profit, their main need was to sell arms and india was a good country for them. We voted no for them once and that’s it. Now they are on their own, especially since their government is badmouthing Hindus and saying idol worshippers should be killed. It is written in their Torah(bible)
Babulal geopolitics mein koi dost nahi hota, aur dushmani soch samajh ke karni chahiye
Exactly
"especially hindhus" what do you mean by that? this is problem of you all, we are Indians, then you bring up religion into it. India was formed by 1000s of culture, not only hindhu. As an hindu, stop this don't make it a religious stance.
The reason for India and her population to support Russia is because back in 1971 when a military dictatorship was conducting ethnic cleansing in the western part of its nation by indiscriminately killing and raping the population which spoke native language......while India set out to liberate these people from tyrannical rule the West led by USA deemed it better to support the military dictatorship.
USA supported this dictatorship to maintain a presence in south asia on the lands of this country which later serve to provide airbases to conduct routine bombing etc in Afghanistan
India is Parkistan land.
You could say it's Pakistan,
My friend!
That's what they're repeating in Ukraine. They ignore all the atrocities of the Kiev regime on the native Russians in Donbas but now Putin is the bad guy because he wants his people safe
Well India was never a friend to the west why should we be friends to them
USSR WAS GOOD TOWARDS INDIA JUST LIKE ISREAL.
The chemistry of Indian's with Russia is different. We know where to do business and where to give love.
Yes,we Indians and Russians love eachother and will always support each other timeless times #Russia ❤️😘❤️ and will love and support again and again , beyond the boundaries in this world. We respect and care and nurture our relationship, whatever may be its about business or defence or political program or religious matters or family matters ❤❤❤
how can an Indian forget when no-one with us in 1971 only Russia protected India I don't care whether they did it for their gains or not or for other reasons but the fact is they protected India against the world.
for that we are forever grateful to Russia
India Loves Russia
Yaad aati hai karna aur duryodhana ki story .
@@satyaprakashsingh2422 karna apna dharm nibha raha tha. hum apna dharm nibha rahe he. USA shaitan he koi dharmic devta nahi ki usko support de. native amerians ki dharti aur unki population ko khake baita he woh.
bros acting like he was there fckin retard (im indian too mf from MP)
@@satyaprakashsingh2422 only problem is that this mahabharata doesn't have righteous pandavas.
I am Indian and I believe that still we haven't support Russia like Russia supports India in 1971...
Thanks Russia...
India will always support and help Russia first other than any country in the world
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the foreign minister beautifully explained why India support Russia.. Jai Shankar video has the answer 😃😃😃
The Americans and the British along with Pakistan tried hard to break India into small provinces in 1971.
The American 7th fleet and nuclear subs were just off the coast of India. The Russian Navy and Nuclear Air Force Bombers showed up just in time! Indians Remember 1971. And they are grateful!
They got china as well with them
We love Russia 🇷🇺 period. They are with us long before U.S recognised india as a partner and took sides with a dictatorship over democracy. Long live 🇮🇳 & 🇷🇺 friendship ❤❤❤❤
When india knows someone is friend then they are friend forever indian always standa with those who were once standing with india 🇮🇳🤝🏼🇷🇺
Bcz Russian🇷🇺 has supported india 🇮🇳when whole west, US, EU was against india.
Loyalty is a two way street
India never forget their well wishers and to those who helped her in difficult time 🔥🚩🇮🇳
Russian+Indian=True Friendship 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Twice he said India has long relationship with Russia especially about military equipment etc..... I wish if at least once he could have explained how that relationship was built ? It was built when US and total 7 countries helped "terrorists state" Pakistan against India in 1971 when it was only 24 years India had got free. At that time India was supported by Russia and Israel....
Israel can't be against USA
What are you saying?
@@anasmouden5416Isreal did brother. They provided India with weapons and intelligence to India in almost all wars. That's why India and her people stand with Israel
Not because of their tech but because of their action to protect India from US' 7th fleet
the west has always supported dictators and political thieves. history is witness
1971 US 7th Fleet in Bay of Bengal on its way to attack INDIA, Russian Submarine popped up to protect INDIA. Every Indian remembers this
What are you smoking? lol
@@kingmarre9130 actually you are being pissed off
We as an indian we don't want out best friend to be sad cuz we got against to them cuz they are the only friend who stand with us in our worst time. 🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺 I love Russians
Dont forget in 1971 US, UK tried to invade India and it was Russia who protected India. In 1995, US imposed crippling sanctions on India and it was Russia who helped India. India is not afraid of American imperialism.
Stop with the fantasy, they never tried to invade lol
If required Indians gonna shed blood for our brothers... And as India just need 10 years to grow peacefully
Soviet Russia was the guy that pick us up when we were down. Not gonna backstab a brother like that.
as a INDIAN i see USA as friend but RUSSIA is FAMILY to us
I see US as a opportunist who turns his face according to time whereas Russia is a strong geo political Ally
@@hiteshkumaryadav8373 no as dom as he is family 😂
USA blindly supported a military dictatorship called pakistan when they were killing innocent bangladeshi in 1971. India took matters in its own hand to liberate bangladesh 🇧🇩 & Russians supported it for good. India will never forget this.❤❤❤
It's not only about military technology. It's called true friendship
A friend in need is a friend indeed.
It's called having your friends' back. Russia is India's time tested friend.
India's friend is being very shitty.
Well. You should look up what KGB tried to Do.
@@Asianboy1 we knw it destroyed cia , stop crying now 😂
Indians never forget their friends 👍💯
Precisely Hindus and not the backstabber Muslims. Jai Shree Ram.
True friendship is respected in India and russia is friend period
We don't support Russia we love Russia because when the whole world was against us then only Russia was there to help us❤❤❤❤
Instead of saying India has a Strong long relationship with Russia...... "Say what USA or EU did and didn't do to help India "
Long live India Russia friendship Jai Hind 🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺
Bcoz when In
1970 Indo -pak war, Russia supported India and USA , britain were supporting Pakistan
We Indians can forget the bad that people have done with us but we never forget who helped us in our bad time,we would always stand with Russia 🇷🇺
It's not just about the arms dealing. India and Russia have a history. Even longer than the 1971 war when USA was about to attack India. India has shared a history with Russia since the ancient age. Russia is also named in the "Mahabharat".
For hindus, a friend in need is a friend forever. We love Russia with lots of gratitude ❤😂💕
Lol they don't love us
@@divya9951They think your stinky cow fukkers its a fact. India belongs to the West and should know on what part of history its for for the Nazis or for the Greater Good
@@divya9951they love you Divya .. specifically
@@divya9951 oh that's why they are accepting Hinduism and watching movies from a very long time Raj Kapoor is more famous in Russia than any other foreign country
@@sagarw4197 just type India in Russian language and see thier love towards you
Also in the past..India was helped by Russia when Pakistan was supported in their terrorism by America..
Today, America needs a confidant to tackle China and thats why they have bettered their ties with India in the last decade significantly..India has come to know their identity and capacity and potential..and hence started making statements..
We in India support Putin and Russia. They have the courage to fight the new Nazis in Ukraine.
The Ukraine Russia issue is very simple. Would USA allow Russia to setup a base in its neighbouring Cuba or Mexico? NO!!!
There is a big reason behind india and russia friendship which is Trust ( power of people of both the countries ) .
Yes! We support Russia partly because of the history we have, but mostly because we understand the geopolitics behind it. The Nato expansion to the east, which is exactly like the Cuban missile crisis. America's uneasiness of Europe getting close to and dependent on Russia for energy... etc
Most underrated comment
Because Russians and Indians are brothers.....me as an Indian support Russia Anyday over any country....idc if Russia attacked Ukraine...Putin is a true patriot who wants Russia to its former glory..ukraine was a part of USSR...and together they are stronger anyway..so today it might look like invasion..but it's a good change and change calls for resistance...I support Putin and I support Russia and i think I am speaking true heart's opinion for the majority of Indians.
Long live Russia ..❤❤❤ Mother Russia❤❤❤
Love form India ...
Because Indians are mature enough to know the real reason behind the war.
US try to invade INDIA with Pakistan on its side in 1971 but RUSSIA helped us so it's normal for us to support RUSSIA 🇷🇺🇷🇺
lol The US never tried to invade India. And you side with a greater evil lool
We Indians dont even think of invading or attacking other countries.This is not our mentality. We believe living in harmony with all religions. India is not just a country, its a one world. But if someone from outside or inside tries to break tht harmony, thats gonna be a problem.
Indians are grateful and genuine people, that's why...
Meanwhile, US refused to allow use of GPS when India needed the most in kargil war. Then, India learnt and developed it's own navigation system. Although US is too militarized and powerful, but they can't buy trust. Bcoz trust builds over time, u can give billion dollar weapon to a country for free, but he also will think why US all of a sudden.. He won't trust u so easily.
As a Indian I always stand with our true friend Russia.
🇮🇳 🤝 🇷🇺
And that help in 1971 war......
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What this man fails to say is that, IS has been supplying weapons to Pakistan for ages, and funding their government...which funnels money and weapons to terrorists that have targeted India. Russia was the one that supplied weapons to India till they could make their own - this is called Loyalty !
💯🤣😂 yes, billions of Indians & Chinese, whispered in this bloke's ear " Go & be our Spokesman"
I’m indian and he’s right. 🇷🇺💪🇮🇳
He got it right. His observations are on point. Godless america will not destroy our relations with russia and israel.
@@mojomahojo8253Russia yes, not Israel, Israel sold arms to us once because they also wanted to profit, not before they are our friends, infact their government has said idol worshippers like Hindus should be put to death, it is written in their bible(torah). Just type idol worshippering in Judaism. They follow Judaism, cousins of Islam.
And in Deuteronomy 13:6-10, the Torah says that if a city turns to idol worship, the entire city should be put to the sword. This is from Jewish bible that Israel follows.
@@gautamsainath7304Well their definition of idol worshipping is different from what islamic scholars have written buddy
Well Indians know that Russia has never abandoned us in any situation but the USA has a history of abandoning allies.
It's all abt friendship and loyalty. We will not break years of relationship with someone who has been an ally for us in our bad times. They have stood for us and supported us always. Never break the hand who has held u through hardship ❤❤❤❤❤ 🙏
The reason Indians stands with Russia is not because of the military equipment they got but because they stood up with and for us when no one did in fact when the whole world was against us. We might not be able to stand with them now as they did with us before but we can’t stand against them either. We decided to stand against the idea of War not Russia.
We Indians will never forget that when the western powerful countries came together to attack India supporting Pakistan than USSR came to help us.
Russia is not only our alliance but also a true true best friend ever and it's indian history we never betrayed our friends Europeans never liked asians as a friend but have our own policy live indo russian friendship
Even if Russia had nothing to provide to us, India would never ever backstab Russia. We dont forget. #1971
What a sweet human being Ms Fauzia! It’s good to see kind and friendly people all over the world.
India will stand with Russia untill the end because when pakistan was attacking india, the whole west, Uk and usa chose to support pakistan rather than giving same lecture of peace against India
Lol just type india in Russian language on CZcams
Whole WEST? The West doesnt exist the Western world does and not everybody is the same India is muslim and belong to Pakistan the same as Ukraine belong to Russia 🤡🤡
@@divya9951Russian hater spotted
@@rajveersingh4350 nahi bhai western slave spotted 😂😂
@@Ruo368cee haa 😂
If you have guts then ask Switzerland why is it sitting on a fence ?
US has many times worked against India and Russia has come to rescue
We will never forget that
Well we never forget a friend who helped us when no one did...❤
We do not forget forgive to those who pushed us into the darkest hour and we will certainly not forsake them who helped us in that situation.
IND ❤ RU.
thanks to US and A' s actions against India in the past and russia's constant support
India is playing neutral like a parent would do when you have one ferrel kid who is a spoilt brat and the parents know the best thing is to give the ferrel kid a chance to cool down and use the brain they have
By spoilt brat you are ofcourse talking about NATO right
Cause India doesn't backstab those who helped her in difficult times ♥️🇮🇳♥️
The most impt reason why India support Russia is coz US supported our enemy and almost had attacked India. But it's Russia whom US feared and left.
When US and UK tried to attack India it was Russians who came to support us. We haven’t forgotten it.
It's not only Russia pretty provided all sorts of weaponry technology to India but also USSR helped India 🇮🇳in 1971 war where US send 7th fleet to support pakistan long live India Russia friendship I🇮🇳 🇷🇺
We support Russia because they supported us in the Indian-pak war in 1971. America sided with Pakistan during the war. Never ever forget the past.
We r Indians we love Russia.we never forget people who helped in hard time .and most important points we never forget who forced us to face hard time
God lord. Stop embarrassing us with your poor vocabulary.
U just responded to a 7 th grade kid comments. I can see ur standard .hi Principal Oxford University.nice meeting u .don't become teacher in comments box .try to be motivated ur self on mother land .
@@control4050do hell with your fxcng vocab. Jai Shree Ram. At some instances vocabs doesn’t count but feelings, patriotism emotion does. Wake up buddy.😅😅
we got friends not hippocrats
Conveniently left out the part where US and the Uk tried to attack India when they saved Bangladesh from a genocide in 1971.
As an Indian I can guarantee majority of Indians are wiling to do anything for Russia even providing arms, weapons everything... No one cares about Ukraine and west. But geopolitics is playing a big role. I wish Indian govt give them lot if monetary aids behind the curtain. Long live our most dearest partner Russia...sorry we can't help you fully but we love you all and hope this war ends. Hope my Russian people be at peace.
It's not just relationship. They protected our honour from britishels and Americans. And we Indians will always pay our debt to Russians. Your opinion means nothing to us. You are sitting on the graves of millions of people across globe including your own soldiers. Connect that 1st.
I am Indian. We don't support war, but saying that Russia is our friend. And we have this mutual understanding that we don't interfere in each other's business...
When a billion people are watching your back, nobody can mess with ya 😅
To be precise, every indian citizen is with Russia.we are true friends and we keep up our friendship. I Love putin.
and India hasn't forgotten the anti-india stance by the West by supporting Pakistan and the Soviet Union full fledged assistance to India in the hour of need...
If Russia gets support from China and India,then nothing can hurt Russia,and Putin knows it.
To be America's enemy is dangerous.
But to be its friend is lethal
It’s an invasion when America doesn’t involve…🙄
If invasion involves america its global war on terrorism 😂😂
India with Russia 🇮🇳🇷🇺
#indiasupportputin
Don’t just say they had this relationship - in 1971 war when Pakistan attacked india, UK and US completely supported pakistan with naval support. It was USSR which came to the rescue of India. Every indian is grateful for that and will never forget it.