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Hilliard clutch VS Max torque which is better?
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2023
- Hilliard clutch VS Max torque which is better?
Ran the Predator 212 powered Coleman CC100X minibike 0 to 30 and top speed with a Max-Torque clutch and then swapped out the Max-Torque clutch for a Hilliard clutch and did the same runs to see which would perform the best.
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You're the only minibike channel I still watch. Cheers 🍻
Thanks!
@The Don Your amazing too!!
@The Don I haven't heard of you until now. Will be checking out your channel.
i have both clutches both stall at 3,300rpms. both are on heavy modded 212's. i like the max torque on my mini bike because it engages more smoothly when it bites. and i like the hilliard on my go kart because it bites harder out of the hole.
I ditched the bushing clutches a couple years ago and replaced them with the Hilliard Fury's that have needle bearings. Not sure if there's any performance gains but they definitely last longer if maintained.
his videos Help Me Thru Life no Joke thanks Mr Black66
Since you done a comparison on flywheel gap clearance,you should do a video on different brands of spark plug performance on a predator 212 to see if one does better.
I did do a spark plug video on the Predator 223. Check it out.
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I like the max torque myself. I came across a new clutch with needle bearings instead of a bushing.
Allsome testing .it's allways cool to see the difference.🙂👌👍
Been waiting on a comparison between these awesome.
I love the comparisons!! I really would like to see a nibbi 24mm vs a nibbi 26mm carb on the same bike.
Differences in carbs will depend on the engine because one will run smoother an faster all depends on the engine Biggers not always better
I actually have the 26
The Hillard is great for reliability because I've actually broke a Max torque clutch the backplate can't handle that much stress on the Max torque clutch because the plate will crack the way the hilliards built it won't do that
Shoot I run 70+ mph and have over 500 miles on my max torque
I had both but i like the hillard hard choice purchased my second hillard no slips no problems easy to replacement parts an you can upgrade it to better fury clutch an add needle bearing think this is better in long run 3 summer for hillard not one issue no slips things a tank
For stock and reliability I go with the max torque, for modded application I go with the Hilliard I think it’s more oriented for race applications.
I think the Hillard clutch it's easier to work with
Thank you for doing that video I love your videos I run a 420 now
What a beautiful sky out there. I haven’t seen a deep blue sky in years. Anyway I’m off topic I just picked up a CDI electronic ignition with variable timing so after 4000 RPM my bike won’t retard. Can’t wait to put it in from what I hear you can get a couple thousand extra RPM out of your bike. If you’re interested I’ll hook you up with the link the guy lives in Canada and he only sells them on Facebook
Ya, hook me up with the link. I will test one out . Thanks!
Good video, thanks for the comparison, no one does it better than you! 💯💯💯
We all wanna see the same engine with gas vs e85 carburetor hp differences same carbs
thanks for the info i have a max torque now that i had a on methanol briggs going to swap it l right over to the built hemi i am doing now.
Excellent episode B66. I never imagined there was so much aftermarket upgrades for minibikes. I enjoy your data board and how you keep record of performance gains. I am very interested in the minibike ride you participated in last year. How did the bike perform and what would you do to make it better?
Thanks! I didn't make it last year but I am going this year.
@@Black66 If it is safe, please capture some video footage, I never thought it was viable to ride a mini that distance .
they need to finish building that cool lil neighborhood some sidewalks mabey idk gotta think about the kids walking ya know no sidewalks
Hilliard been riding my mini bike with the same one I git 2 years ago with the original springs in it and I ride at least 3 days a week and about 20 miles each time
Luv the channel! Planing a bike build now to go to vintage sports car racing events (to get around the tracks) and your content is invaluable. BTW, where did you get the blue Corvette model on your bench? Love it!
Thanks! I picked the Corvette up at the Death Valley Nut and candy company in Pahrump Nevada.
Can you please do a review on the Premier clutch
Have my bike in hibernation too cold out once April comes I want to do a Tilly with 12T 60T 420 chain
Great video. I'm wondering if changing the engagement to 1800 on the Hilliard might make for a faster time off the line. Usually you want the take-off rpms to be in the power band, but I'm thinking the extra 500 rpm and quicker engagment might shave off some time on the 0-30. Perhaps a video on changing the springs and testing? I think new springs are $15.00 a set at OMB. Thanks!
I love it I’m moving to Arizona with you
Yo 🎉
Lets make it happen ! How long are you going to stay?
Idk about a MT but I broke the key off of a Hilliard HD in a month with a stage 1 Predator.
I don't see buying either one again in my future.
I just picked up a Hilliard extreme duty clutch for a kart. In comparison I did have a china boy on hand and noticed the drum was thicker on the Hilliard. I don't have a Max torque on hand. Is the MT as thick as the Hilliard?
You should compare a cheap amazon clutch to a brand name clutch
The hell it will last longer and perform better. I still have my Heller clutch haven't had one problem out of it dragging or overheating
I'd say the max torque only because of price and accessibility you can't beat it
I'm looking for a balanced bike, decent off the line, decent top speed, any recommendations??
Check out the playlists. I have so many different combos and bikes on there. I'm sure you might find one of your liking.
I picked up a Hilliard clutch for 10 bucks brand new but the inner bore is 5/8” does anyone know if you can change it to a 3/4” inner bore ??
Hilliard all day on all my bikes
YES 👍 Hilliard
Which one gave you smoother engagement? My side by side has rough engagement
at the start. Could this be a worn clutch?
Links for the tires are in the description of the videos. Thanks!
max torque all day
What's your thoughts about a Premier Titan clutch 4100-4300 stall?🤔
At top speed both clutches should have locked up solid with the sprocket turning the same speed as the crankshaft. Both clutches have 12 teeth on the sprocket so the gear ratios are exactly the same. Yet one has a higher top speed ???......Huh go figure!?
One clutch must slightly slip ...
is it ghetto to run the predator on the stock bolts and run the clutch outbored
It's ok to run them anyway you want as long as your having fun doing it.
Thinking abt getting a hillard clutch
Hilliard is a good clutch.
Will the 69 tooth sprocket be fine for rodeoing around the yard ??
My Hilliard to much noise
So this is a stock hemi?
gained over 1 mph just by swapping to the Hillard? That's a win
Those bronze bushings are a b*tch...
I oil mine every few hours or so thru the C-clip... ive broken/shaved one down before, MaxTorques DONT wear out thats for sure
Make a video of that pink bike are going to give me
That pink bike is a rocket ship! Not sure you could handle it.. Well have to turn it down..
I have both and the maxtourqe is tried and proven.
Would the Hillard be good on a jackshaft setup
Yes, I think it would. Looks like a well built clutch .
i Heard they got one called a Dillard coming out too Real Soon True Story !!
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Check out my previous videos. Attempt is spelled in a few different ways. You are the second to catch this !!
@@Black66 haha
Torque converter still top though
Not really since they top out your speed quickly
Not when it’s for racing applications
What if you put the 20 tooth in behind the 10 or 13 tooth and run a higher torque clutch that engages sooner so you can use more of the rpms,
I'm cheaply redoing the jackshaft to a new pair of mb200 im ordering, i have sprockets and clutches ready to order at the end of next month, im trying to help get her ready for a longer camping trip we're taking them on, I'm not a fan of torque converters, an am looking to get good use out of a jackshaft setup.
I would really like comments and opinions plz.