I finally agree with all of this. The early mixing myth got me, too. For years. Finally came to realize that in my own music, none of it was bridged early. Why pay someone else to teach me that? Singing with greater ease these days. More volume, more stamina, more tonal options...Great stuff, and all well explained here.
The hour glass shape you demonstrated at the end as you go through your powerful range is very similar to what Dimash does as he goes through his. It's very impressive must been a lot of hard work. Something I can picture and aim for. In your future videos, I'd love to see how you go through from F4 to A/B4 to hear how you gradually narrow your chest voice that'd be great. Many thanks.
GOD THIS is SO VERY HELPFUL. I have been discovering some of this.......thinner, not louder, smaller....YES!!!!.....and sometimes in full chest, as I go up, i think and feel like I'm going down lower for the "high" notes, which has helped or I think of a bull's eye and like I'm going wider or fuller, but only when I'm staying in chest. This Mixed voice is new and your info is super helpful! And what is amazing listening to you, and clearly you really know your technique, is that your speaking voice does not sound as if you could produce such clear, sharp and piercing tones, but you sing so clear and sharp! I'll have to listen to this video a few times. Thank u!
Wow! this perfectly describes a core problem that I've been struggling with! Pushing the transition to a much higher note seems to be the key, and the vocal demonstrations are so helpful! Thanks
Thank you for the video! Parts of it kind of went over my head (I don't have formal voice training), so your examples were more helpful to try to imitate! Will have to keep practicing this!
I’m glad you mentioned Opera singers. I’m a struggling baritone…..can’t get beyond the G4 and it’s not pretty. I’ve heard about narrowing or thinning the chest voice for a long time but can’t seem to get it right. I either end up pulling up and locking up at around F4 or, I manage to thin it out but then I sound strangled. This is maddening. Every vocal coach has a different answer to the same question…..and all of them are next to impossible to learn watching a video.
spent a VERY long time watching a million videos on youtube about this and you are 100% the truth and everyone else is wrong and basically just bridging too early as you said., Props ot you and will def work on the vowel modification to get that tight!!!
Another awesome video, thx. That demo of your incredible voice at 17:55 is amazing. I don’t really understand how to narrow the chest voice. My chest voice is probably very wide and sounds so different from my head voice and as you say that makes the crossover seem impossible - what you said about trying to bring the tones closer together makes sense and helps. I saw a video by another teacher demonstrating singing the same note in chest, head, and then mix - I found it very helpful in terms of understanding the difference and I bet you could demonstrate that even better with your brilliant voice
Glad you liked the video. It is really hard to narrow the chest voice at first, because the natural tendency is to push and widen it. It really just takes a bit of time. I'd recommend looking up some vowel modification videos, but also one thing that may help is as you get higher practice sounding 'dopey'. By that, I mean intentionally sound lazy, dopey, almost like a strange yawn. As you go higher, try staing dopey and relaxed, whilst trying to make the sound smaller and you get higher. The dopeyness should help get some of the muscles out of the way that try to push the voice to get wider.
Caleb Coles Music Thx so much. I’ll try sounding as dopey and lazy as I actually am. This time tomorrow I’m sure I’ll sound like a cross between Dimash and yourself!
This is so great and my nemeses at this point a year into singing. When I am warmed up I can hit a C5 but then after that, it totally disintegrates. And when I try to sing songs in my higher register it's still difficult to navigate where the mix not to mix it's really that golden area that once you master unlocks the door or so much. Your upper register is magnificent and I think your vocals sit higher than mine naturally. But if there are any other tips scales anything that you can give me to help me strengthen in that upper chest to head mix and stretch I'd really appreciate it.
How do we sing high notes without getting loud? People always talk about speech level singing? I find it impossible to not get louder when I get to E4 and above? Not yelling but louder.
8:00 the creaky door exercise. Falsetto doesn't transition down to chest voice without your voice cracking, but head voice, with enough practice, does. It is absolutely not the microphone. Check out Chris Liepe's videos on Radiohead and Bon Iver for a better explanation.
Is the headvoice with adduction you're talking about actually flageolet ? because I know I have flageolet from C5 to Bb5 and I can't get it lower than bb4! But my falsetto rarely goes higher than C5 so what do I need to do for my head voice ?
This is precisely my problem. I can't bring the chest higher without straining or cracking. This makes me automatically go into head dominant mix prematurely, leading to a comparatively weak sound that has a jarring tonal shift. Could you please make a video showing how to narrow the chest voice? Thank you.
I can't sing an "u" in chesty mix voice! When I go up from my chest I switch automatecly to an "ou" value or when i force my voice it flips to an almost full head voice "u"!
The thing is when you say don't push or force even though I like some of your songs in your example it feels kind of push in my own sensations so I don't know what is pushing and what is right tensions to achieve narrowing for me. :)
High chest voice = vocal death. Anyone who told you that it doesn't lead to strain and vocal damage over time was misinformed and heading for ruin themselves. Been there, done that. By E4, the resonance should lift. Pulling chest voice ever higher will first present as a wobbly tone. Then grittiness or airiness appears, and finally, flatting of pitch and loss of high range altogether.
@@thomasglass7223 I would start mixing even lower than that. B3 or so. For one thing, your mix, despite being quieter than raw chest, is going to sound fuller. The folks who just shout everything not only don't sound particularly musical, but they also tend to have a very limited range, no vibrato, and a strident tone.
Hi, I can easily mix my voice, infact for going from the a bass note to a very high note in a chest dominant mix using the AA vowel is going pretty good for me. But every morning I wake and find out that my crossover point notes have become very wobbly and weak. How do I strengthen my mix so that I can use it in singing.
Stop relying on the AA (cat) vowel. That has made you too strong, and wobbly. UH (cup) will give you a thicker and more stable sound, because its harmonic frequencies are lower overall and high frequencies are what lead to strain in the first place if you use them too much in the low range (overcompression). It's no different from using low harmonics in the high range (leads to breathiness). It doesn't work. Low harmonics are for the low range, and high harmonics are for the high range.
My head voice is pretty strong but chest isn’t very much. For the note kind of things i can go low as A2 with my head voice and go to even C6. But chest is E2-G#4 at most while yelling at top. I gotta strength my chest more
All of my chest voice is weak. One day it would sound fine then the next day apparently I find out that I blew it out. No matter how careful I sing in chest voice. It blows out I don’t know what to do?? My only strong point in my voice is my falsetto/high head voice. The rest of head voice has a weird tone and chest is just all tense. I feel like I’m screaming and forcing the ENTIRE chest... people tell me to breathe and I do? It’s not making sense or clicking at all. I been practicing a ton..
It did! We just had a massive lightening storm in the middle of it, so I had to come back to it. Here's a bizarre question, you were saying how to manipulate the sound in your vocal chords. Does that mean you can feel that happening and do you flex them to make different sound choices?
@@mamatrop Wow, strange! Yeah, a little bit. There is a different sensation in actually putting the cords together a little bit. And yes adding compression and aduction sometimes feels a little bit like flexing the vocal cords I suppose :) At first though it is hard to seperate the sensations from tension in the throat / neck that is unhealthy, so I try to be careful with the language I use. But there is a sense of different energy and flexing within the vocal tract. The trick is to make sure that it is healthy with the breath support and not over-compressed or tense so there is no extra tension :)
YES!!! SO TRUE!!! Bridging too early used to kill me. But can you talk about "light mix/light chest"? I am a tenor, and I can bring my "refined/narrowed chest voice" up to B4 (or sometimes C5), but my light chest (or maybe should be called uncompressed chest voice) does not work up to G4, any suggestion? Thank you very much XD
I think it is quite normal for an uncompressed chest voice to struggle up past that point. A lot has to do with your voice type. Some voice types just have to be compressed more to get past a certain point or needs a switch of register. I tend to blend a bit earlier when singing softly and blend later at higher volumes. So when I crescendo / descendo at say a B4, the B4 at full volume will be a chest dominant loud belt, and then as a go quieter it'll switch to being more head dominant, then as I swell back to full it'd go back to chest dominant. Even well trained opera singers do this also. Some voices can do a more aspirit (uncompressed) chest voice sound up high, but that is rare and only works for voices that are truly very high pitch naturally.
Egads. Our neighbors would shoot me if they heard me making those kinds of sounds to put me out of my misery. Well, out of their misery. Thanks for the explanations, though. I wish I could have learned how to sing correctly when I was young. 😀
I started learning to sing at the start of lock down. Before learning to sing I would push past F in my chest voice in a unhealthy way. Then learning to sing I started "mixing" my voice earlier around B, C. But now I am mixing after the D. So when you come back down would you expect to go back to chest at around the same notes? Or does it not matter? I am just wondering if using the same chest notes on the way back down keeps things more "healthy"
@@marcusdamianbaloyo1336 I am a man. I meant the male part on the piano i think they call it middle C not C5. C5 for me would be mix like most guys. When I first started to learn to sing I was trying to mix around D4 E4 F4 with a lot of strain and power and could never get it smooth which is why i started relaxing my voice which made it mix earlier. The reason I was mixing later was probably due to belting out higher notes in my car when i used to listen to the radio. I never knew mix voice even existed so i used to go higher until my voice used to crack. My voice isn't as high as other guys on youtube, i can hit up to F5 kind of comfortably in head voice depending on how warmed up I am. I can hit up to A5 but it doesn't feel comfortable and i even got horse a few times hitting those notes up there :p. By mixing lower I have lost some range on my chest voice. Now when i hit E4 F4 it automatically mixes.
@@theone4808 Oh ok, I get you! Not a vocal coach but I still think you're able to hit E4-F4 in your chest register. I hope I don't sound negligent, but it might be due to improper breath support on your part. That's why you may be mixing at around E4-F4. Before I discovered the Mix Voice, I was able to pull chest at around G4-G#4. When I kinda discovered how to utilize my mix, I thought that I should mix earlier them where I actually start to mix, around A4. So I started mixing at around G4. It took me months to realize that I was 'instinctively' mixing at around G4. I kinda got worried at that point. I thought I had messed things up. It was a good thing I went back and watched a video on proper Breath support. I think basically, you can belt comfortably and mix better with proper breath support and proper air-flow. It was then I realized I could still hit G4-G#4s in my chest register. In addition to that, my mix started to sound heavier than before. There's still a distinction from mix and chest but it's kinda subtle. You can kinda tell that it's supported. I think you'll be fine. Maybe you just need proper technique in breath support. Again, I hope I didn't sound negligent. Idk, maybe you are using proper technique in that department. I hope I kinda helped based on my experience. You don't need to listen to me if you don't want to. After all, I'm no vocal coach. Keep practicing sir!
@@marcusdamianbaloyo1336 thanks. You are spot on! Breath control is something i lacked and i have been working on diaphragm support. Everything feels a lot more natural this way and less "controlled". Thanks for the tips!
I was same when I discovered I was shouted for hours push hard to high notes sometimes I remember One day I hit F5 without warming Crayzzinesss but I was lucky my range is not affected
These are all the things that i have already learnt with singing mixed voice and i promise you it would not help you to achieve those high notes . If you want to sing super high then there's another technique called karoj that will really help you out .
I agree with most of this information, but you can (and should) also practice a headier mix, even taking a pure head-voice down to a E4 (for men) or lower. Long as you work both your “call register” (high-chest) and light mix-voice, you can develop the ability to move in and out of any sound you want. Giving you more options and textures. It just takes training. The only “caveat” to this is: you mustn’t work on you lower head-voice or light mix for too many consecutive days, neglecting chest voice, otherwise your voice will become CT dominant, especially from E4 to B4. Weakening the TA muscle used for the your call-register. It’s like a fine balancing act, muscle memory can easily take hold when practicing one way or another for a persistent length of time.
Thanks for the info ☺ But I can get my head voice down to a point where it's nearly as low as my lowest chest note is.... My lowest chest note is an A2 and my lowest head voice note is a C3... is that bad ? Also my head voice goes to A5 without straining , and I am self-taught . Please if you have any extra info on how do we mix would be appreciated, I have been struggling for ages 😞 and I cant sing past the E4 .... I am about to give up.
@@amrm_a7771 You shouldn’t take your head-voice anywhere near that low, (why would you want too?) it becomes airy and too much air is a killer for the voice. For a Tenor the vocal bridge is around E4, this is where you need to start transitioning into your head-voice. Can be lower for some men. Then you build this area over time into a mix of chest and head, giving you a mix-voice. It’s best to forget about mix-voice and focus on making a smooth transition from chest to head lightly. You can then build on this over time, and I mean time. It can take years before you build a big sound throughout your vocal bridge. My advice is “Think of mix-voice as a strong head-voice at first.” As there isn’t a magical 3rd vocal register call “mix-voice.” The resonance goes from chest to head! Mix-voice is really just a term used to describe the overtones created when you’ve built a good strong “gradual” transition from chest to head and built the voice strong over time. The voice MUST transition into head resonance as you go though your vocal bridge. (E4’ish) This is why the term “mixed-voice” has so many (especially people going it along, without a good instructor) confused. Build your head-voice from E4 (could start a little lower) up throughout your upper range. Build Chest voice up to E4, (or a little lower) but stop if it builds too much tension or becomes uncomfortable. The voice needs to grow without punching it, this is very important. Trust in the process and week by week you’ll see progress. This is my advice anyway, good luck and I hope this helps.
@@jazznotes3802 thank you so much it really helped me , but I am actually wondering if I put my vocal cords under high compression I can reach B4 sometimes D5 , is that healthy or it isn't? But it doesn't sound good at all and it is too weak. Also sorry if I ask a lot I am being self-taught I am really sorry 😞 Edit : If u r curious about since when I started singing , I started sining and practicing 2 months ago and I also developed all my vocal registers (whistle, flageolet, vocal fry, etc ...) and got my vibrato..
@@amrm_a7771 Your definitely moving way too fast imo. One of the biggest downfalls to self-learning is the speed at which you move. Chest-voice and Head-voice up to around C5 is all you should really to be working. Otherwise you’ll likely build bad habits and vocal tension. I wouldn’t recommend practicing by simply following different CZcams vocal lessons. (If you are) You really need a DIY “teach yourself course,” to follow. Something like Seth Rigg’s “Singing For The Stars” Book/CD. (If your not getting one on one lessons) I highly recommend this book for teaching yourself. But be sure to record yourself and self annualise very carefully. I’ve had private vocal lessons for 2 years, but found I improved more (and faster) by practicing from Seth’s book and Brett Mannings “Singing Success” DIY CD vocal program. I’ve also got Ken Tamplins “How To Sing Better Than Anyone Else” vocal video/mp3 course. Ken’s course is much harder to follow without a vocal coach though. When on your vocal journey don’t focus on learning everything quickly or pushing to get results. The voice need to build slowly, without tension. You need to relax for the high notes first, (not push or compress) building a light head-voice, like a reinforced falsetto almost but without the larynx rising. Guys fight against this trying to force a bigger sound I. Their head-voice/mix-voice, don’t do this. Get a DIY course!
@@jazznotes3802 Thank you so so so so so so so so so so much for replying like you are the only one so far who answered my questions and I have thousands of them xD. Also my head voice goes to A5 , you mentioned that I have to get the head voice to C5 which already is , now I have to work on my chest voice to get it that high , I guess it should be a chest dominant mixed voice , I will work on that 😉 Thanks 😊 🫂
can I make a suggestion? Make more videos like this. I have 0 interest in DIMASH reaction videos, I subscribed only for this content & you never made any more of these videos, why? I think your best talent could be as a vocal coach & a lot of people are looking for that.
In short mix voice is between at bone nose and upper teeth 🤣 too many talk bla bla bla just feel it thats why you should raise your eyebrows if your singing high notes
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I finally agree with all of this. The early mixing myth got me, too. For years. Finally came to realize that in my own music, none of it was bridged early. Why pay someone else to teach me that?
Singing with greater ease these days. More volume, more stamina, more tonal options...Great stuff, and all well explained here.
@@into.the.wood.chipper. That's awesome to hear how well your singing is going!!
@@CalebColesMusic Go gentle, pleeease. xD
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The hour glass shape you demonstrated at the end as you go through your powerful range is very similar to what Dimash does as he goes through his. It's very impressive must been a lot of hard work. Something I can picture and aim for. In your future videos, I'd love to see how you go through from F4 to A/B4 to hear how you gradually narrow your chest voice that'd be great. Many thanks.
GOD THIS is SO VERY HELPFUL. I have been discovering some of this.......thinner, not louder, smaller....YES!!!!.....and sometimes in full chest, as I go up, i think and feel like I'm going down lower for the "high" notes, which has helped or I think of a bull's eye and like I'm going wider or fuller, but only when I'm staying in chest. This Mixed voice is new and your info is super helpful! And what is amazing listening to you, and clearly you really know your technique, is that your speaking voice does not sound as if you could produce such clear, sharp and piercing tones, but you sing so clear and sharp! I'll have to listen to this video a few times. Thank u!
Strengthen head voice
7:54 creaky door exercise
8:35 nay nay & nah nah exercise
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Thank you for this video Caleb!
Wow! this perfectly describes a core problem that I've been struggling with! Pushing the transition to a much higher note seems to be the key, and the vocal demonstrations are so helpful! Thanks
Thank you for the video! Parts of it kind of went over my head (I don't have formal voice training), so your examples were more helpful to try to imitate! Will have to keep practicing this!
That was awesome, it really helped me a lot!
Great video, only place I've found this information. It really does shift your perspective on what the limit of your range really is
Soooo nice!!
due to an ad on your video, I now know "physically" where my mix is located, how it's supposed to sound, and so on :D
so thanks!
Thank you for the help
So underated vocal coach. Golden info. Kudos. Greetings from Spain
I’m glad you mentioned Opera singers. I’m a struggling baritone…..can’t get beyond the G4 and it’s not pretty. I’ve heard about narrowing or thinning the chest voice for a long time but can’t seem to get it right. I either end up pulling up and locking up at around F4 or, I manage to thin it out but then I sound strangled. This is maddening. Every vocal coach has a different answer to the same question…..and all of them are next to impossible to learn watching a video.
This sounds crazy but so what it actually great therepy. It s relaxing and sort of enjoyable after stress day
I'll definitely have to re-watch this video, but I did learn a lot for most of it. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
spent a VERY long time watching a million videos on youtube about this and you are 100% the truth and everyone else is wrong and basically just bridging too early as you said., Props ot you and will def work on the vowel modification to get that tight!!!
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Thank you for this great video, mate. It will be helpful to extend my mixed voice.
Great, hope it does!! Let me know how you go.
@@CalebColesMusic Ok I'll do it.
Think you for making this video now that's make a lot easy for me to sing Whitney Houston I will always love you
Another awesome video, thx. That demo of your incredible voice at 17:55 is amazing. I don’t really understand how to narrow the chest voice. My chest voice is probably very wide and sounds so different from my head voice and as you say that makes the crossover seem impossible - what you said about trying to bring the tones closer together makes sense and helps. I saw a video by another teacher demonstrating singing the same note in chest, head, and then mix - I found it very helpful in terms of understanding the difference and I bet you could demonstrate that even better with your brilliant voice
Glad you liked the video. It is really hard to narrow the chest voice at first, because the natural tendency is to push and widen it. It really just takes a bit of time. I'd recommend looking up some vowel modification videos, but also one thing that may help is as you get higher practice sounding 'dopey'. By that, I mean intentionally sound lazy, dopey, almost like a strange yawn. As you go higher, try staing dopey and relaxed, whilst trying to make the sound smaller and you get higher. The dopeyness should help get some of the muscles out of the way that try to push the voice to get wider.
Caleb Coles Music Thx so much. I’ll try sounding as dopey and lazy as I actually am. This time tomorrow I’m sure I’ll sound like a cross between Dimash and yourself!
Awesome dudeee
Thx.
Good stuff man
I like your style to teaching because your more feels like sharing not teaching i hope you make more this type of content
Thanks! I will make more :)
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This is so great and my nemeses at this point a year into singing. When I am warmed up I can hit a C5 but then after that, it totally disintegrates. And when I try to sing songs in my higher register it's still difficult to navigate where the mix not to mix it's really that golden area that once you master unlocks the door or so much. Your upper register is magnificent and I think your vocals sit higher than mine naturally. But if there are any other tips scales anything that you can give me to help me strengthen in that upper chest to head mix and stretch I'd really appreciate it.
Lol his singing was awes .made me smile
Definitely holy grial
Sure is!
My hub loved the video he said he getting use to me singing all time it not so bad and he says I getting better
I wish my house had a room I could practice in - just too small here :/ Interesting advice, I hope to give it a try one day.
Yeah that is always hard. I have had a hard time with that in the past too.
How do we sing high notes without getting loud? People always talk about speech level singing? I find it impossible to not get louder when I get to E4 and above? Not yelling but louder.
Same, but I think that his microphone helps him
8:00 the creaky door exercise. Falsetto doesn't transition down to chest voice without your voice cracking, but head voice, with enough practice, does. It is absolutely not the microphone. Check out Chris Liepe's videos on Radiohead and Bon Iver for a better explanation.
@@unknown_character_music my chesty feels at till f4 it's feels little bit vibrate at f4
@@Arijit-BS7274 My chest goes up to G#4 on chest belt, the weird part, on chest mv, ONLY F4 AND PUSHING JUST F#4, that's so weird
@@gamerps4sg898 I can also belt A4 bt it takes much effort bt g#4 is more much more easier than A4
Is the headvoice with adduction you're talking about actually flageolet ? because I know I have flageolet from C5 to Bb5 and I can't get it lower than bb4! But my falsetto rarely goes higher than C5 so what do I need to do for my head voice ?
This is precisely my problem. I can't bring the chest higher without straining or cracking. This makes me automatically go into head dominant mix prematurely, leading to a comparatively weak sound that has a jarring tonal shift. Could you please make a video showing how to narrow the chest voice? Thank you.
TOTALLY the same problem i have!
I can't sing an "u" in chesty mix voice! When I go up from my chest I switch automatecly to an "ou" value or when i force my voice it flips to an almost full head voice "u"!
Please teach us how to narrow the chest voice, been trying and cracking
What about alto or mezzo? When need to crossover?
Why change the term passagio to crossover?
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Hope it helps! Let me know if you have any questions :)
Wish I could know when I was in mix voice - I haven't found anybody yet who can successfully describe what it should feel like!
The thing is when you say don't push or force even though I like some of your songs in your example it feels kind of push in my own sensations so I don't know what is pushing and what is right tensions to achieve narrowing for me. :)
When you say A4, "never in a head dominate position", what side of the break are you on?
By extending and narrowing the chest voice, you mean chest dominant mix right?
I started practicing about 2-3 months
In that time, i pass of: can't do a simple Ab4 without too much tension, to D5 normal and G5 with tension
Shit, that's good. Can you link to the video that helped you ?
@@Yadeehoo It's on Spanish
6:46 think narrow think small when hittimg high notes
8:46 - 9:32 nay nay excersise
High chest voice = vocal death. Anyone who told you that it doesn't lead to strain and vocal damage over time was misinformed and heading for ruin themselves. Been there, done that. By E4, the resonance should lift. Pulling chest voice ever higher will first present as a wobbly tone. Then grittiness or airiness appears, and finally, flatting of pitch and loss of high range altogether.
Elaborate, are you saying that you should start to mix at f4?
@@thomasglass7223 I would start mixing even lower than that. B3 or so. For one thing, your mix, despite being quieter than raw chest, is going to sound fuller. The folks who just shout everything not only don't sound particularly musical, but they also tend to have a very limited range, no vibrato, and a strident tone.
Stop fear mongering LOL just because you cant do it doesnt make it dangerous
Is mixed voice and pharyngeal voice is same? Or what's the difference
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Hi, I can easily mix my voice, infact for going from the a bass note to a very high note in a chest dominant mix using the AA vowel is going pretty good for me. But every morning I wake and find out that my crossover point notes have become very wobbly and weak. How do I strengthen my mix so that I can use it in singing.
Stop relying on the AA (cat) vowel. That has made you too strong, and wobbly. UH (cup) will give you a thicker and more stable sound, because its harmonic frequencies are lower overall and high frequencies are what lead to strain in the first place if you use them too much in the low range (overcompression). It's no different from using low harmonics in the high range (leads to breathiness). It doesn't work. Low harmonics are for the low range, and high harmonics are for the high range.
My head voice is pretty strong but chest isn’t very much. For the note kind of things i can go low as A2 with my head voice and go to even C6. But chest is E2-G#4 at most while yelling at top. I gotta strength my chest more
Do you give vocal lessons by chance?
All of my chest voice is weak. One day it would sound fine then the next day apparently I find out that I blew it out. No matter how careful I sing in chest voice. It blows out
I don’t know what to do?? My only strong point in my voice is my falsetto/high head voice. The rest of head voice has a weird tone and chest is just all tense. I feel like I’m screaming and forcing the ENTIRE chest... people tell me to breathe and I do? It’s not making sense or clicking at all. I been practicing a ton..
Oooh!! Great topic!!
Thanks! Big video but hopefully made some sense.
It did! We just had a massive lightening storm in the middle of it, so I had to come back to it. Here's a bizarre question, you were saying how to manipulate the sound in your vocal chords. Does that mean you can feel that happening and do you flex them to make different sound choices?
@@mamatrop Wow, strange! Yeah, a little bit. There is a different sensation in actually putting the cords together a little bit. And yes adding compression and aduction sometimes feels a little bit like flexing the vocal cords I suppose :) At first though it is hard to seperate the sensations from tension in the throat / neck that is unhealthy, so I try to be careful with the language I use. But there is a sense of different energy and flexing within the vocal tract. The trick is to make sure that it is healthy with the breath support and not over-compressed or tense so there is no extra tension :)
This has been a master class! I didn't mean to sound strange, just trying to understand!🙂
My chest voice till f4 it's little bit feels vibrate at f4
YES!!! SO TRUE!!! Bridging too early used to kill me. But can you talk about "light mix/light chest"? I am a tenor, and I can bring my "refined/narrowed chest voice" up to B4 (or sometimes C5), but my light chest (or maybe should be called uncompressed chest voice) does not work up to G4, any suggestion? Thank you very much XD
I think it is quite normal for an uncompressed chest voice to struggle up past that point. A lot has to do with your voice type. Some voice types just have to be compressed more to get past a certain point or needs a switch of register. I tend to blend a bit earlier when singing softly and blend later at higher volumes. So when I crescendo / descendo at say a B4, the B4 at full volume will be a chest dominant loud belt, and then as a go quieter it'll switch to being more head dominant, then as I swell back to full it'd go back to chest dominant. Even well trained opera singers do this also. Some voices can do a more aspirit (uncompressed) chest voice sound up high, but that is rare and only works for voices that are truly very high pitch naturally.
You are tenore o baritone?
you are a tenor or baritone?
Egads. Our neighbors would shoot me if they heard me making those kinds of sounds to put me out of my misery. Well, out of their misery. Thanks for the explanations, though. I wish I could have learned how to sing correctly when I was young. 😀
I still don't get it, I don't know what "narrow chest voice" means
I started learning to sing at the start of lock down. Before learning to sing I would push past F in my chest voice in a unhealthy way. Then learning to sing I started "mixing" my voice earlier around B, C. But now I am mixing after the D. So when you come back down would you expect to go back to chest at around the same notes? Or does it not matter? I am just wondering if using the same chest notes on the way back down keeps things more "healthy"
Are you a woman? Because if you were a man, then damn you have such a high set voice to be able to start mixing at around B/C/D.
@@marcusdamianbaloyo1336 I am a man. I meant the male part on the piano i think they call it middle C not C5. C5 for me would be mix like most guys.
When I first started to learn to sing I was trying to mix around D4 E4 F4 with a lot of strain and power and could never get it smooth which is why i started relaxing my voice which made it mix earlier. The reason I was mixing later was probably due to belting out higher notes in my car when i used to listen to the radio. I never knew mix voice even existed so i used to go higher until my voice used to crack.
My voice isn't as high as other guys on youtube, i can hit up to F5 kind of comfortably in head voice depending on how warmed up I am. I can hit up to A5 but it doesn't feel comfortable and i even got horse a few times hitting those notes up there :p.
By mixing lower I have lost some range on my chest voice. Now when i hit E4 F4 it automatically mixes.
@@theone4808 Oh ok, I get you! Not a vocal coach but I still think you're able to hit E4-F4 in your chest register. I hope I don't sound negligent, but it might be due to improper breath support on your part. That's why you may be mixing at around E4-F4.
Before I discovered the Mix Voice, I was able to pull chest at around G4-G#4. When I kinda discovered how to utilize my mix, I thought that I should mix earlier them where I actually start to mix, around A4. So I started mixing at around G4. It took me months to realize that I was 'instinctively' mixing at around G4. I kinda got worried at that point. I thought I had messed things up. It was a good thing I went back and watched a video on proper Breath support.
I think basically, you can belt comfortably and mix better with proper breath support and proper air-flow. It was then I realized I could still hit G4-G#4s in my chest register. In addition to that, my mix started to sound heavier than before. There's still a distinction from mix and chest but it's kinda subtle. You can kinda tell that it's supported.
I think you'll be fine. Maybe you just need proper technique in breath support. Again, I hope I didn't sound negligent. Idk, maybe you are using proper technique in that department. I hope I kinda helped based on my experience. You don't need to listen to me if you don't want to. After all, I'm no vocal coach. Keep practicing sir!
@@marcusdamianbaloyo1336 thanks. You are spot on! Breath control is something i lacked and i have been working on diaphragm support. Everything feels a lot more natural this way and less "controlled". Thanks for the tips!
I was same when I discovered I was shouted for hours push hard to high notes sometimes I remember One day I hit F5 without warming Crayzzinesss but I was lucky my range is not affected
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These are all the things that i have already learnt with singing mixed voice and i promise you it would not help you to achieve those high notes . If you want to sing super high then there's another technique called karoj that will really help you out .
I agree with most of this information, but you can (and should) also practice a headier mix, even taking a pure head-voice down to a E4 (for men) or lower.
Long as you work both your “call register” (high-chest) and light mix-voice, you can develop the ability to move in and out of any sound you want. Giving you more options and textures.
It just takes training.
The only “caveat” to this is: you mustn’t work on you lower head-voice or light mix for too many consecutive days, neglecting chest voice, otherwise your voice will become CT dominant, especially from E4 to B4. Weakening the TA muscle used for the your call-register. It’s like a fine balancing act, muscle memory can easily take hold when practicing one way or another for a persistent length of time.
Thanks for the info ☺
But I can get my head voice down to a point where it's nearly as low as my lowest chest note is....
My lowest chest note is an A2 and my lowest head voice note is a C3... is that bad ?
Also my head voice goes to A5 without straining , and I am self-taught .
Please if you have any extra info on how do we mix would be appreciated, I have been struggling for ages 😞 and I cant sing past the E4 .... I am about to give up.
@@amrm_a7771 You shouldn’t take your head-voice anywhere near that low, (why would you want too?) it becomes airy and too much air is a killer for the voice.
For a Tenor the vocal bridge is around E4, this is where you need to start transitioning into your head-voice. Can be lower for some men.
Then you build this area over time into a mix of chest and head, giving you a mix-voice. It’s best to forget about mix-voice and focus on making a smooth transition from chest to head lightly.
You can then build on this over time, and I mean time. It can take years before you build a big sound throughout your vocal bridge.
My advice is “Think of mix-voice as a strong head-voice at first.” As there isn’t a magical 3rd vocal register call “mix-voice.” The resonance goes from chest to head!
Mix-voice is really just a term used to describe the overtones created when you’ve built a good strong “gradual” transition from chest to head and built the voice strong over time.
The voice MUST transition into head resonance as you go though your vocal bridge. (E4’ish)
This is why the term “mixed-voice” has so many (especially people going it along, without a good instructor) confused. Build your head-voice from E4 (could start a little lower) up throughout your upper range.
Build Chest voice up to E4, (or a little lower) but stop if it builds too much tension or becomes uncomfortable.
The voice needs to grow without punching it, this is very important. Trust in the process and week by week you’ll see progress.
This is my advice anyway, good luck and I hope this helps.
@@jazznotes3802 thank you so much it really helped me , but I am actually wondering if I put my vocal cords under high compression I can reach B4 sometimes D5 , is that healthy or it isn't?
But it doesn't sound good at all and it is too weak.
Also sorry if I ask a lot I am being self-taught I am really sorry 😞
Edit : If u r curious about since when I started singing , I started sining and practicing 2 months ago and I also developed all my vocal registers (whistle, flageolet, vocal fry, etc ...) and got my vibrato..
@@amrm_a7771 Your definitely moving way too fast imo. One of the biggest downfalls to self-learning is the speed at which you move.
Chest-voice and Head-voice up to around C5 is all you should really to be working. Otherwise you’ll likely build bad habits and vocal tension.
I wouldn’t recommend practicing by simply following different CZcams vocal lessons. (If you are)
You really need a DIY “teach yourself course,” to follow. Something like Seth Rigg’s “Singing For The Stars” Book/CD. (If your not getting one on one lessons)
I highly recommend this book for teaching yourself. But be sure to record yourself and self annualise very carefully.
I’ve had private vocal lessons for 2 years, but found I improved more (and faster) by practicing from Seth’s book and Brett Mannings “Singing Success” DIY CD vocal program.
I’ve also got Ken Tamplins “How To Sing Better Than Anyone Else” vocal video/mp3 course. Ken’s course is much harder to follow without a vocal coach though.
When on your vocal journey don’t focus on learning everything quickly or pushing to get results. The voice need to build slowly, without tension.
You need to relax for the high notes first, (not push or compress) building a light head-voice, like a reinforced falsetto almost but without the larynx rising.
Guys fight against this trying to force a bigger sound I. Their head-voice/mix-voice, don’t do this.
Get a DIY course!
@@jazznotes3802 Thank you so so so so so so so so so so much for replying like you are the only one so far who answered my questions and I have thousands of them xD.
Also my head voice goes to A5 , you mentioned that I have to get the head voice to C5 which already is , now I have to work on my chest voice to get it that high , I guess it should be a chest dominant mixed voice , I will work on that 😉
Thanks 😊 🫂
He looks like a young alan alda
YOU are baritone?
how can you teach other people to sing, when you are not a singer ?
I could never do opera
can I make a suggestion? Make more videos like this. I have 0 interest in DIMASH reaction videos, I subscribed only for this content & you never made any more of these videos, why? I think your best talent could be as a vocal coach & a lot of people are looking for that.
Aren't you afraid that your voice sound hoarse?
Caleb s a cutie lol
Good but too much stalking
In short mix voice is between at bone nose and upper teeth 🤣 too many talk bla bla bla just feel it thats why you should raise your eyebrows if your singing high notes