Adding Weight to Mix Voice - Tyler Wysong
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This guy is a genius! The Holy Grail of vocal technique!
Wow what a compliment! Thank you!
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Besides the singing lessons, you seem to be such a good and genuine human being, man. Thank you for that.
Thanks for that! I appreciate that!
Great advices. God bless!
No u r very clear and simple yet full of good info
Thanks, covering mouth worked for me very well
This is hands down the best video I've watched on finding mix voice. You've really simplified it. Great job man! You're God sent I swear!
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The teacher just fantastic.
Thank Sir for the insights
I was searching for someone like you for a long time, i already knew all this, but i needed for somebody who can demostrate how it sounds like and explain how it feels like, and also i think you really have a great technique and voice, i do not know why you are not more famous, because you are an amazing vocal coach . Pd: You have a new suscriber.
props on making it so digestible mixing technical stuff with application and presenting it clearly
Thank you!
I saw a couple of random videos of yours and then decided to start on the first one you posted. Saw every single one up to this and practiced a lot in everyone. And yes, I was doing exactly what you said. A Head/mix voice. With this exercise I found the real mix voice. Thank you for that!
Love your content man keep it up!!
Thank you so much!
Just what I needed thanks man
Awesome! So glad it helped!
1000Thumbs up!! Such a great vocal teacher! God bless!
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It's nice that you are actually giving advices and tips. Not like other vocal coaches that only react to singers for the views.
your videos are so lit and really get you where you need to be, thank you very much! ^-^
Thank you! I appreciate the your kind words.
Excelentes consejos y ejercicios. De los pocos que es ejemplo de lo que explica. Gracias desde Argentina.
Awesome content as always!
Thank you my friend!
Best content on the internet! Would love a video on "how and why" of vocal warm ups someday!
Great suggestion! Thank you!
@@tylerwysong :)
Quality of time to practice is an excellent advice.
Thanks for the lesson, really helpful!
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
I love how you demonstrate exercises so clearly. Thanks for the content.
Thanks so much! You are welcome!
i've already commented but i have to say it again: love your content and i watch this video basically everyday to practice!! looking forward to your next videos!
Wow I am so happy to hear that! Thanks so much!
You're my favorite vocal coach honestly. Most of the time I'm trying to fast forward through other coaches trying to find where they actually explain what I need to know. But what you've taught has actually helped me and you get right to the point of what will really help me learn. So I really appreciate it, thanks.
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Thank you my friend!
"For things to change, you have to change
For things to get better, you have to get better! "
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Every teacher on youtube is the same but dude, you are an exception, trust me.
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Yes I definitely agree when I was young I learn belting excersise and took my chest voice higher than usual and lost my headvoice but eventually regain it. It wasn’t as strong as before but few excersise has been helping me recover it. And after I regain that power from headvoice imma be able to take my mix voice even higher than F4/G4 that’s just comfortable range I can go higher but I rather not strained. I been constantly learn relax jaw flat tongue improve headvoice as well as singing my runs are getting better constantly watching observing what singers and vocal coaches do
Could ypu go into detail on how you strecthed your chest range and help a brpther out?
I feel like that's excatly the case for me. I can belt up to Bb4 but I am used to belt and sometimes even shout and I lost my headvoice. I'm now singing lighter and I think I'm finding a real mix. But yeah I lost my headvoice by all the time working on chest voice and kind of pushing it because I didn't know I had to get rid of the weight. With some time of practice, you are saying that F4s and G4s are easy and comfortable ?
I going train this in my training
Thank u so muchhh
You're welcome!
Excelent!!!
my mixed voice turns into head voice when I make it louder
My mix is strong up to Bb4 but above that, notes ate getting thinner until it gets to Eb5
Yes that can happen, but it is probably because you are switching to a head voice without realizing it, it's very common up there! I think i will do a video on that soon because The high Bb, B, and C can be very tricky!
@@tylerwysong exactly tyler. How i must to sing that high notes??in the same so forward placement than the middle range??
Ive found out tha if i send the mixed coordination to a so forward placement on the high notes i tend to push the air and my cords get hoarse;
When i sing in the middle range with my mixed coordination i use so much belting forward placement kind of sending the sound to my teeths; but if i go through a higher notes i feel i cant send it so forward so i kind of send it to the hard palate no to the teeths. First of all because my mouth its more opened. Does that happen to you too?? I mean, the mouth is more open in a D5 than a C4 , so if you want to sing a D5 you got to open more your mouth and obviously you can not or you shouldnt send the sound to your teeths (a so forward placement) because if you try it you could be pushing the air; and pushing the cords. so your own body ask you to send it a little behind, to the hard palate. I wish you understand.
Have you noticed that too??
Im only talking about mixed coordination. I dont switch to the head voice on the highs.
I suppose you all are baritones.....
@@newhope5729 couldn't tell you didnt hear them lol
Helps a lot for me to find that place in the nose where it starts there for the very high notes, like metal singers from 80s, maybe Judas Priest would be a good example
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Tyler! I hear you and appreciate you so much. I'm noticing that I am able to achieve this coordination momentarily once I'm warmed up, however, when I do it feels SO vulnerable and demanding of my energy. My body is exhausted after just a couple "reps" of this exercise. Did you ever experience this?
I like this approach better than the other approach to higher notes other youtube teachers teach (e.g. Chris Liepe, Phil M.). Feels much easier but this kind of sound suits other styles better than others of course. I find it helpful singing Andrea Bocelli, Daniel Emmet type songs or even some Boyz II Men stuff- but ehrrmm I realized that even singers like Boyz II Men don’t do this exclusively- they do it often (wanya morris for example when he sings operatic sounding notes) but not exactly ALL the time, lol. Since it’s modern music we got a lot of singers doing their own thing - e.g. the lady of Fleetwood Mac is pretty freaking nasal and a bunch of vocal coaches don’t want their students to be nasal at all so sucks for the student who wants to sing like that lady.
So I’ve come to realize lately - Some singers apply both this technique and lets say Chris Liepes “mix” technique interchangably so they have more sound choices. A great example would be Bruno Mars. I feel the difference between the two techniques being taught (yours and liepes). Though, makes me pretty confused when people call those sounds singers like Adam Lambert/Bruno Mars do when they belt like Liepe as “strained” - so it’s usually any sound in the 4th octave + that doesn’t sound like this is usually labeled as straining all over the internet (but I tell myself take that as a grain of salt because anyone can post anything but that doesn’t mean everythings a fact) - makes me feel conflicted because one person would be telling me it’s ok while the other says it’s not ok.
The Chris Liepe Mix Voice one definitely feels harder to do and sometimes yields a pretty hideous sound for some vowel sounds like “EE, IH and OO” for example... but sounds like “EH/AY, OH/OW (cow)” don’t sound bad at all with it and feel easier than those other vowels.
Your technique feels way easier for those “harder” vowels I can’t do easily with Liepes “mix” sound (e.g. Ee, IH, OO) and it sounds better too with your approach, imo. Yeah.
I guess that’s what vocal coaches say that some artists “break the rules” because they don’t do this exclusively for every single thing they sing all the way thru 100% of the songs they sing. 😱😱 They do their own thing - a whole bunch of things they learned throughout their life- (e.g. Jack Black) they learned how to make all these sounds they can do work with their music and compliment with the backing track sounds and sometimes it’s sounds people don’t dare to teach students, especially beginners, lol. 😅
Yes for sure. For me this is a starting point balanced in the middle. I do not expect or even recommend that everything be sung this way, that would be ridiculous. But I do think it's a good idea to at least have the ability to make this sound. Then from there you can always open it up more and what not so that it suits the style you are singing.
Ok wow. This exercise is amazing. I can really hone in a very balanced, rich and powerful mix with this. Can you explain why singing into an enclosed small space helps target the right coordination?
Because the mixed voice place is in the pharingeal space which is a closed space, not so open as the mouth is. Closing up the mouth makes the air travel more into the soft palade and makes you acces the higher notes easily . When you yell, or open the mouth too much you force the air out and it s impossible to acces a mixed voice because you get stuck in a chest resonance.
Great video! Can you do the video on neutrual and frontal vowels please.. it would be awesome !
Do you mean making it in mix with those? Can you clarify what exactly you are asking?
@@tylerwysong Yes making it in mix with those!
This is so interesting! What can you say about mask-placed head voice?? And is there any way to get it??
Oh I did my head mix
@tyler the exercises on an assessing or descending order are easier because you can prepare for it. When covering Bruno Mars locked out of heaven, grenade. It jumps through passaggio multiple times. How do you tackle those type of songs?
Thanks for the video! I love your content. I'm a tenor and I've been working on sovt and sovt to mix exercises since I first saw one of your videos two weeks ago and I have noticed I have been able to release a lot of tension around the larynx and finally I'm sustaining middle-high notes with ease and freedom. I've also noticed I have the tendency to push air when I try to sing higher and I've worked on maintaining a steady airflow and a stable rib cage, it feels amazing and ridiculously easy, but I can feel I still have a big tendency to constrict as I sing higher and to "spread" the sound widening too much my mouth, not only this is uncomfortable but also, as a classical singing student, that kind of sound doesn't work for me. Do you have any advice? Thanks again!
Thanks so much for the kind words! Don't be afraid to over do the narrow vowels to get a more 'Covered' sound in your first passagio especially if you are a classical singer. Of course even in classical we do not want to sound manufactured but you definitely cannot sound to spread as you mentioned. Check out this video I did, i think this is a great way to really start working in a more appropriate sound for you.
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can't agree more,I've got a powerful head voice which means nothing(can't be used in the singing).
I clicked the links for the voice analyzers. Only the voca vista linked worked. I see it’s a 30 day trial. Since this video, are there any others you’d recommend. Any apps vs desktop software. Thank for your help, love your videos!!
Sadly the Voice print link no longer works.
The voce vista one works though - and (eventually) gives you the option of Mac or pc
I think the better question here is - if I have a light mix voice or a "heady" mix voice like you did in the first demonstration, how do I press down on it to get more power without losing adduction?
That is a better question for sure. I will have to make a follow video answering this soon!
Did he end up uploading that follow-up video cause this definitely feels like the problem I have
Question please - Technically, could this exercise be described as being 'semi-occluded' for giving better cord closure?
Would that be the 'trick' to get a better and stronger mix (or even 'finding' the mix)?
I'm having some success with it!
Thank you
Do u need to be able to hit those high notes with chest voice in order to achieve those notes, because I can’t seem to hit the notes starting from A4 and starting to break and feeling a lot of tension.
Your mix sounds to me equal to the "voce piena di testa" of opera singers. Is there any difference between then? Maybe placement of vowel (more foward in pop mix)?
This is pure gold! I noticed you have a lot of control on your larynx position and I can't never keep it in the middle. Do you think that might be a reason for pushing chest voice when going through the 1st bridge?
Yes for sure, a higher larynx often, although not always, tends to lend itself to pulling up chest voice. If you have seen my video on formants and harmonics then this might make sense, if not I am sorry for the jargon, but when the larynx raises too much the first formant is raised quite significantly, and what we want to do for the mix voice that I teach is keep the first formant somewhat stable and low and in order to do that we have to learn to keep the larynx stable because out of all the articulators the larynx moves the first formant the most. Again if that makes no sense so sorry but it is whats actually happening.
@@tylerwysong Thanks for the reply! I've seen the videos, makes perfect sense. I guess I just have to keep the little bastard in place somehow :))
@@tg2220 Ha! Yes totally. Narrow vowels like "Oo" and "Ee" have the lowest first formant, while something like "Ah" has a much higher first formant. The way I keep it in place is not by thinking muscles its by thinking vowels. But the vowels often come out as some weird mixed vowel because I just mess with it until I get it in the right spot (The first formant that is). So try thinking vowels instead of muscles.
@@tylerwysong does singing only in chest voice not good sir? God bless ,from Africa ,Zambia.
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Hi Tyler! I watched all of your videos and downloaded voce vista. However, the interface is different from voiceprint and I could not figure out how to use it. Could you make a demonstration video on how to use voce vista to find the mix voice? Thanks!!!
Yes the interface is different! Look up Tyler Wysong Voice Community on Facebook (assuming you have FB) It's my private group and I will do something about that in there soon! Cheers.
@@tylerwysong Thanks!! I have just requested to join the private group on fb, please accept haha
Do I need to lower my larynx when doing mixed voice?
I can sound like that doing an exercise. Now show me how to get there when singing a song :)
That's the trick huh? I try to show in almost every one of my videos some practical application, but for someone to really get it most of the times you need to seek out lessons from a qualified teacher.
is there a way to practise this very quietly? I want to try this out but my family would only insult me if I do
What I call my mixed voice is always pretty loud. If I back off the volume it goes to head. Often around Bb B C I feel I have a little too much waight an if I take that higher I'm screaming. But other times I can hit those notes in a "smaller" feeling mix that will keep going up threw my head voice. Should I be able to sing mix that high without the volume? Or is that just some bull shit that I heard someone say? I can't imagine being able to just practice singing in a building with other people. I have to go to the studio I rent to not get evicted for singing loudly where I live
Is it possible to sing in a mix voice at the same volume of the head voice?
Coach, is it normal that when i go higher my larynx keeps going down?
anyone find any free spectrograms? looks like the two mentioned here are now paid.
When I go higher than B4 - C5 my mix switches to full headvoice. How do I prevent that? And my mix is unbalanced it has more head mix than chest.
I've tried, but nothing is really working out.... I get up every morning with a very low voice, and it takes time adjust to my normal voice.
I have found my mixed voice for sure... But I can only make a limited amount of volume with it, when I increase the volume it wavers and gets raspy... How long will it take me to strengthen it?
How exactly does your hand in front of your mouth help you to find your mixed voice?
The back pressure from the hand helps the vocal cords get in the right position for mix voice, it's a form of what are called semi occluded exercises.
Does mixed voice necessarily have to be loud? Is it possible to practice mixed voice without being too loud?
Just what I was thinking. Would like to see ways to develop a softer mix.
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@@Mike-ye6sl true
I don't understand what the closed hand over mouth does to help us find mix. What sensation should we feel when our hands are covering?
The pressure build up in the mouth or intra oral pressure you get from occluding the mouth with your hand helps to position the vocal cords as well as keep the vocal tract in it's ideal state to go from low pitches to high pitches eventually seamless without any evidence of transition. Sensations are so individual but I notice a buzzing sensation at the front of my mouth somewhat similar to a "Vv" sound, as well as a feeling of pressure inside my mouth when doing this particular exercise.
Do you have an email? I would like to ask you some questions personally and maybe send you some of my singing videoes because im really having trouble with mixed voice. Iv been practising for 2 years and i dont know if what im doing is still wrong or not. :(
Hi, i have a question ,if i am bass ,can i get into tenor range by using mix?
yes you can but it's not recommended.
How to sing OO vowel at G#4 I CAN SING AA there but not OO
Watch his video about vowels
my chest voice stops at an F4, so how can I get more power in the rest of the 4th octave, as my mixed voice sounds light there?
Add more chesty mix in your mix voice.
Is it possible that some individuals can never access a well built mix?
Ive been working on the mix for aslong as i can remember
But the only time i ever came close to singing in mix was when i was sick with flu
I found that i could sing in the mix with really effortlessly with full closure.
Otherwise my mix always sounds heady-ish. Even if im able to find certain days where my mix feels more solid, the longer i sing in that mode, the quickly i start to transition from mix to heady tone onceagain.
Its really frustrating and i think my folds are simply not built to handle the mix
I believe anyone can do it if you are willing to commit.
Are my cheeks supposed to be puffed?
I mean... I have that sound, but i'm trying to increase its range even further, cuz when i aim for higher notes, it get more brighter, what can i do?
Drop the larynx down as going up..
I just kept going into strained chest voice soooo
Try adding a little more flow to your sound, a little more breathy feeling for now.
Dimash high note also sound very heady mix..
Would you consider adding weight the same as adding volume?
Maybe adding weight is the wrong verbiage here. To me, adding weight means adding more chest voice. Which is the opposite of what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to carry up less weight as I ascend. But, I used to associate weight with volume. I had to back way off in order to give up the weight and find my mix. Now that I have, I can add more volume to get that more robust sound you mention by simply adding more support. But, it doesn't feel like I'm working much harder.
However, I'm also really confused. Because your head voice/falsetto example still sounds connected to me. Definitely lighter than the other examples. But, it still sounds connected. Which means it sounds like you're still in mix, just a really light mix. Am I way off on this?
No I don't think so! Although that is just my perspective. I think you can add volume without it feeling weighty, but I guess it always depends on where an individual is starting from possibly what i think feels very free and weightless someone stuck in head voice might perceive it as more weighty for a time until they get used to it ,so it is always a question of our own individual experience thus far.
@@tylerwysong What would you say you are doing in order to take that light mix sound and turn into the fuller robust sound? What are you adding or doing differently to achieve that sound?
@@nikosiler5965 I think that was the point I was attempting to make in this video, I'm not trying to take the light mix sound and make it fuller. For me they are separate things, just like Chest and Head. Blending in and out of them for me is just a steady switching between them. I think I have just been at this for so long now that I have developed the coordinations in order to sing in and out of them at will, but it didn't use to be that way for me!
Hey, Tyler. Why opera tenor always sounds really chesty ( or powerful chest resonance) when hitting a high note. But when contemporary singing in high mix rarely sounds like that( either sound balanced which is pretty good or sound a bit thinner voice)
Contemporary singers sing with microphones and typically opera singers do not.
That “chesty” sound usually sounds not so good up on a mic but without a mic sounds amazing!
I sing with mixed voice, It has power, volume, it’s not airy... But it’s thin, I just don’t get it
So am i right, that mix is a mutant from heady position voice?
But what if my voice cracks on that high g??
Been trying for 5 years now! Do you do zoom sessions?
@@zaccelinder3344 Yes absolutely I teach online lessons. My schedule is pretty slammed at the moment but please reach out to bookingtylerwysong@gmail.com to either join my waiting list or possibly we can make something work if you happen to have availability at the same time as my very limited available spots.
@@tylerwysong amazing thanks
transparent? I dont see you telling people that mixed is head+thicker closure+twang (I am evt student)
When you’re holding a hammer everything is a nail, and sometimes a rock will do.
Also what you’re describing is not what mix voice is. At least not how I do it or teach it.
Again as I’ve mentioned to you in another one of your somewhat condescending comments if you think that way and sing good then great. That’s not what is anatomically happening when you sing. Also the Estill model of twang is false too. Check into Kerri obert research.
@@tylerwysong thanks, sorry for negative comment
Is this speech level method?
My foundation is from SLS yes.
2:18 did he just burp??