Is Vanover's FETtec Drone PERFECT?
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2021
- Vanover's new freestyle build flies butter smooth! But what does Drew and Shawn think of it...?
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Rotor Riot says "No Tuning"
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get rid of those bots, RR
@@gregorygrimm5540 TROLL!
I can put my finger on it. It is gains differences. This quad smoothness is because PD Ratio is low, but that sideeffect is bad throbbles. One trades off for another. Increasing PD ratio will makes throbbles better and if you get just right (Critically Dempened), will be just as smooth.
When I log KISS and F1 and show the latency don't get made at me.
Raise P-gain for noise throbbles, not I-gain. I-term is too slow to counter. That is a bad myth we need to crush. Anti-gravity was to keep nose from drifting on throttle up/down, but not to combat throbbles.
I feel that everyone these days want the firmware defaults to be perfect for every quad in the world and that’s a fundamentally flawed mentality. I don’t see how this quad and flight footage is any different from the smooth flying drew and vanover have been putting out all this years on betaflight and flightone quads. I think the smoothness is more about the low rates these guys run than the tune(and the throbbles are horrible).
@@KenjiFPV They seems happy with how it is flying. That should matters as well nuh? seems like each is defending they own turf, , Throbbles, prop wash, meh. Fly
what you like
@@cafub2650 I agree. But when a prominent pilot promotes a firmware, it drives a lot of beginners into investing a lot of money in new gear with the expectation of suddenly being able to fly great. But that just won’t happen. The reality is that all firmwares need tuning and once tuned they all fly well enough that it comes down to pilot skill. A prominent pilot can stand by a product as is his/her right. But when they advertise it as if it will instantly make you smooth no matter where your skill level is - I feel it’s a bit misleading. Especially to beginners.
@@cafub2650 I’m not picking on vanover. I love his flying. Drib’s too. My point is whichever quad they fly will be smooth :) A beginner will get smoother footage by tuning the quad they have (using say, uavtech videos) rather than keep buying new stuff. I just felt that a lot of people will lose sight of this point
@@KenjiFPV Yah totally agreed they all say the crap about whatever gear they using. Till the next sponsor pick them up. Fly what you can afford and works for you.
I mean I get some people like simplicity but when I first started I immediately started learning how to tune, tried different frames picked one that was the most reliable and the apex5” standard frame is all I build now always with the same components ext. but then I had to figure out the specific pid tune,rpm filters and the rest of the stuff. it is soooo handy being able to know how to tune and to do it quick. now I can tune quads like it’s nothing. But it took me around 5 solid months of being able to tune my gear to make it handle how your quad handled in this video, I understand all the hard work and efforts you put into this, and to be able to have a true flying master piece all around is something that is just self gratifying and knowing all the time you spent into getting what you have now. That’s why I love this lifestyle....Nice work happy flying yall
Drew always keeps an open mind when he is flying proximity and it gets him out of a lot of crashes
Disregard fettec, it's flying KISS that they're reacting to. The difference between kiss and bf is always hard to explain but Shaun put it in a good way. Kiss makes doing all the tricks easier. It just feels different.
It feels soft but precise
Totally agree. I have 2 year old kiss hardware its butter smooth. And don't really know how much the regenerative braking helps but I get 7-8 mins on 5S1250mah.
Agreed. KISS is probably the most natural and confidence inducing fc firmware out there.
I’m glad I invested in the kiss ecosystem. I have yet to fly it still in the middle of the build. But comments like this one make me feel like I made a solid choice.
I bought a complete FETtec stack 3 weeks ago. After 2 days the FC burned for no apparent reason. They sent me a new one and at that point the real problems began: in DSHOT the engines went into desynck (this is a very well know problem with new motors). I was forced to put it in one-wire. Now the drone flies like a Matek F4 made in Shenzen. Let's not fool ourselves, if FETtec works like this they won't be around for much longer.
It's weird that I've heard of all these same problems you're talking about and then RR comes out with this video pushing Fettec🤔.... I think we have another DJI sponsorship thing going on.
The quality of FETtec electronics is very very BAD, check this czcams.com/video/g5jcP_Bg_dE/video.html
I CONFIRM! same problem I'm curious to see your setting .... for now with Fettec only problems!
Same problem here...
This needs to be heard by everyone ! Don’t be fooled by paid reviews
Awesome to see Alex is happy with his FETtec setup! 💜 Proud we are in the same Team now buddy! 💪 Keep rippin! 😊
“This Episode was sponsored by our friends at Kiss”
Wish I could fly it
I came expecting perfection and was not disappointed. I want one.
I dont like the dated look of the frame. But the flight performance in the vid was too notch.
I have one (almost identical). I like it a lot. put it on your list, you won't regret it.
I have run the Fettec flight controller and 45amp esc for 8 months - it fly's amazing with basically zero tuning. For any non-believers, there is definitely something special about Kiss!
Yeah there's something about kiss that makes it so much better i have 1 kiss quad and thats on a kiss v1 and kiss 24a escs and it flies so much better than majority of my betaflight quads (except maybe my 5" octocopter)
I actually went from my kiss quad to my 6" betaflight quad and my betaflight quad felt almost un-flyable it was so weird even though I have had that drone for 2 years and its flew really good until I flew kiss, so now I'm looking to put kiss in that quad and it will be able to take advantage of the larger prop disc without getting propwash
@@joshrichards8928 could it be that the kiss defaults are more geared towards 5 inch while betaflight defaults are very conservative? Put UAVtech preset on the betaflight quad and compare it to kiss. I think most flight firmwares these days are very similar.
@@KenjiFPV with the kiss build its not just the locked in feeling it also has really good throttle resolution compared to all my others it feels really smooth in power delivery
@@joshrichards8928 have you tried the UAVtech tune on betaflight 4.3?
@@KenjiFPV don't think I have anything on 4.3
Every RR episode since the AA batteries: Outro = JB’s ‘whoosheeeee’
You guys need to shoot an episode of you all hanging out lying doing whatever building and have it like the camera wasn’t there like a day in the life of rotor riot crew but one hell of an episode love it might even want to try some kiss out now
I need to fly your drone, Vanover.... The reactions seem legit. Great video as always, folks.
All I see from this is the fettec facebook group being flooded with "it is twitching" posts
Yeah, I have 2 kiss fettec quads and they fly amazingly. They have been working on firmware updates to fix these issues. The T motor F series and overall light weight high kv motors seem to be having the most issues however it's getting fixed. Another thing is to make sure to use Onewire too.
That’s because it’s a group for help. You can see the 5% with problems but not the 95% with perfect flying quads.
Problems can always occur. And we always work hard on solving them.
@@nickfpv9489 Hi Nick! Well said 😎
So freaking amazing! Beautilful for the eyes!
I can feel the smoothness through the video!! hooooly O_O
Fun video, awesome flights.
Love my Fettec build, I was also inspired by Vic fpv to give kiss a try. Smooooth with excellent throttle control.
super cool! Always love you vids!
Who cares what anyone else thinks about my quad. As long as I'm happy.........
FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK YEEEEEEAAAAAA🙌🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Wish I knew how to tune better! Im learning- keep making all these videos, we all apprecate the new content and ideas of new places to go fly!!! Thanks!!!
My favourite thing is the lack of Hypersmooth/ND filter-type blurring. The picture is just so crisp & detailed.
So glad to see RR doing some kiss stuff. I started with BF and never did get it to a point that I liked it. Especially when I found kiss. It’s absolutely amazing. Even better when you’re friends with one of the devs 😉 props to Alexander Fedorov
Wow looks really smoooooth!
The excitement is real!
Wow that was smooth on throttle definitely need to build and fly this
Nice fly !!! Cool thanks
Vanover switches firmwares depending on who's willing to sponsor him. I've seen him say all the same stuff about each firmware.
Oh, is that so. What about le Drib then? I sincerely want to know.
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All computers are consistent. That's just how code works. 2+2 = 4 every day of the week.
Wait till i show some facts soon on this KISS and F1 stuff. It is getting out of control with folks believing mystical stuff.
@@uavtech the fettec escs are special though.
@@Quick-Flash sensing some sincere salt...
@@Quick-Flash what is it? Free blowup for top dollar?
So excited to see Vanny with Fettec/Kiss!!! 🙏 And an actual Fettec built RTF, right on!!!
This one video made me want to try a FETTEC FC or ESC... I can’t believe I said that!
I luv my TBS mambo tracer!
It totally changed my game
Switching flight controllers is just a good reason to learn something new. Did you see alexs face when drew was killin that lipo .hahaha
Throttle nose bobble when letsflyrc pumped the throttle....
I dunno, everything they are excited about I already have dialled in on Betaflight, smooth through the throttle range and no bobble on punches.
Yeah thats what i was thinkig when it dipped the nose so hard
Share those Vik/Vanny tune tips for new KISS pilots.
New kiss pilots should just use the stock pids. They fly miles better than betaflight IMO, no tuning really needed especially for beginners. It just works great on stock everything.
Krunked gold tune.
@@Kettenhund75 yeah, his tune is pretty decent
You guys are obviously sick pilots, but that looked so smooth it was like a robot was flying. I've always noticed this with KISS even in old school Snake and Mr. Steele videos. Definitely something to it. BTW, the arms on that quad are thiiiiiiick!
It’s the pilot not the firmware :)
I have had the Fettec F7 stack since it was available. And I still haven't flown anything better. Emuflight is the only thing I seen close.
Do u have a link for the stack? Or should i get the newbeedrone stack by cricket?
@@jandomingo9806 Just search for it
@@jandomingo9806 I linked it twice here and both times it disappeared dont know if his chanel wont let you post links or not? But Pyrodrone has both Fettec 30x30 esc & 20x20 and the Fettec F7 FC
Pretty cool to see someone as experienced as drew have a sudden confidence boost. :D
That was cool! I've never seen Drew fly like that before
Seriously smooth. I likes.
I just built steeles spec and my god! Fettec is so good
4:25 the new DJI controller is looking mint!
That was smooth 🤙🏻
That poor I-Term, so misunderstood... :(
Explain to me what they got wrong about it, I guess I misunderstand it too.
WEEEEEE!! I'm so dead drew!! That had me rolling!!🤣😂
Very good fly 🤙👍🇵🇹
Yap i know... Kiss feeling, still use session 5 without any stab. The best! (Now have full Fettec).
:D Drew you made my day flying it :D
Keep It Simple Silly
KISS
Vanny is so cool 😎 he's a character for sure!
Yeah it is really good. Feels more like silk compared to betaflight. I've not turned back. They are right you can tune Betaflight close to this, but not consistently, and there truly is next to no prop wash.
Would be worth making a comparison video between this kwad and the Mr. Steele Apex build to see which one takes the top spot
Good info - kiss is on my list. H&O lol -Thanks for the video.
I'm new to this, and wondering how they are hot hitting branches left and right.
Fascinating & well made video. Subbed ✌
stick time stick time stick time
wtf you doing guys, leave something for others to tune, omg i love this
Love all my fettec stuff. The main downside is their 45a tends to fail often. But their 35a is solid and its the way to go! I also used Bl-heli32 esc using dahot 1200 on fettec FC and it felt smoother for some reason!
Wait the 35a is better!? 😂
@@ValFPV yes, most of us flying fettec had the worst experience using 45a. But the 35a is solid. Just because it’s rated and made 45a capable doesn’t mean it’s a better esc.
Wow RR discovered something more than BF, wow. Which year we have? :D
Amazing bro 👍🤙👌🤙🇵🇹
can't find the link for either the build video mentioned or the tune!
Hi guys, are you planning in making more of these exact drones? They show "out of stock" on the website. Thanks
tried kiss once with full fettec stack, it flew AWESOME right up until the first tiny crash and it burst into flames... like 90% of people that try kiss/fettec. it's an expensive fire starter. Try at your own risk
Agreed. When it works, it works great.
Same
Kiss and Fettec feel amazing, had to go back to one wire protocol on my builds even with the latest esc firmware but it’s still amazing , I ran dshot 2400 on my older kiss setups and it was insane throttle resolution. Ready for the build video Vanover 👍🤘👊
Yeah same, Dshot2400 or even 600 have issues with my builds, onewire works fine though.
"I dont wanna tune , I just wanna fly"....yeah please.
I built my first quad 2 weeks ago and I had a lot of fun logging and using blackbox to figure out where the vibrations were coming from (props were 90% of the problem in the end, soft mounting the motors also helped later) to get smooth footage, then removing most of the prop wash. It's not perfect as I can bring it out with a quick 180 at 70% throttle but really satisfying to get done ^^
God knows how many hours they spend tuning their quads 😂 And then coming out and saying such-and-such a firmware needs no tuning whatsoever
@@KenjiFPV yeah
Cool Vany drone😄👍💪
How do you feel the decrease in latency with hd being a bottleneck
latencies are partialy additive
Dafuq? If you have 20ms control link latency and 30ms fpv latency and put the 20ms control link down to 5ms in total you only have 35ms instead of 50ms with 30ms HD and whatever 20ms control link
EDIT: I know the numbers aren't accurate, just for explanation purposes
Drew is feeling the exact same thing, I want to explain to everyone what it's like to fly KISS. There is just something magical to it!
Right, its also just a joy hearing them motors sing when they are driven by the FETtec ESC. I dont have enough knowledge of that stuff but these are the only ESC i heard thT are THIS smooth.
I want to try it on👍😉
5.35 I admire your zen like restraint drew 😂
Where is vannys tune? I'm really curious. I've two FETtec build and I love them!
did you find his tune?
Just about the time I was gonna ask about a Tracer build the question was answered for me. It was also nice to hear Vanover say he does not feel it is entirely responsible.
Thanks for info on the build.
When I flew Alex’s kwads, it was easily the best flying kwad I’ve flown.
same
is it possible to have your tuning settings Captain !
Since MLB spring training just started, I think it would be a cool vid if they did a baseball edition trying to track a ball off the bat or a throw from a pitcher the way they did with the arrow. I'm think Trevor Bauer would be on board with it.
is it possible to have the tune for this? you mentioned it would be linked, but I can't find it 😞 thanks!
the link in the description links to the non-fettec bundle, and where's the link for the build video? and i guess i need to save up for one more kwad :)
The link goes to the Fettec build?
Will you guys add this as part of fpv kit with dji in store? Instead of the HD1 kit I want the kit with this
Question on the frame.. Are the props in view like they are on the standard HD1?
I've never tried Fettec stuff, but my experience with KISS was a lot like Drew's, smoke and flames. Build a new quad, full KISS. burned 2 ESCs and 1 motor setting it up in the GUI. First ESC went up in smoke taking the motor with it, then after fixing that, another ESC just died. Changed that and the PDB died. All of this without ever having actually armed the quad. Spent enough $$ on it to build 2 BF quads, and it's all collecting dust in the closet. Fuck a buncha KISS.
Might try Fettec some day, but reliability is still a BIG ? there too.
How do I know specs of the frame? cannot find anything on the website...does it take 20x20 stack, is it a trueX, is it 220 or 225mm?
how does it handle mangled props like a hole blade missing will it burn motors?
Never had troubles with BF defaults - and LeDrip rates. But I'm still on BF 3.5.7 and will stay.
Tuned quite a bit on BF 4.2 (but first build), but removed like 95% of the prop wash, it's rrally satisfying ngl
Check out my latest video, you should love it. Bf 3.5.7 tune in high wind condition.
@11;50 Drew-Link to Alexs tune in description....
Where??? What if I don't wanna buy a built one, I wanna build it and drop the tune on it.
Un saludo desde Sevilla España
I feel like the light weight is a big part of what they are feeling, not just the hardware
Likely everything on Vannys quad combined. The FETtec hardware, the superlight weight, the TBS Tracer and the new Ethix P3 props. State of the art stuff!
Nice vid guys. I actually am interested in building a Kiss drone. I have 9 Betaflight drones already. I shouldn't do this. A whole lot more to learn. How do I justify this to the wife? OK, I'm in.
Not gonna lie I've never seen drew fly like that! I'm definitely gonna get this
Just fucking awesome !
If only replicating this build would mean I could fly like this, too.
Yesnt
I fly a mavic air 2 and have so much fun flying. This build is amazing. Thanks for the passion and dedication 🙌.
I noticed they didn't turtle mode out of that crash. The one thing I've heard the most about kiss is blowing ESCs
This is fettec. Kiss ESCs are well known for blowing up and setting on fire. Fettec is an evolution of kiss, So it's a different product to what the original kiss escs were. I don't hear many stories (or have had any problems with my 2 kiss quads).
Don't use the KISS ESC flasher to update FETtec ESC's. Mine literally caught fire and burned both the ESC and the FC... FETtec sent me another ESC to replace it, but damn. When was the last time you blew up a BLHeli ESC because you used BLHeli_S instead of BLHeli_32?
@@Kettenhund75 lol, you are very lucky that fettec sent you a new one
@@FailsafeFPV Agreed
Built my first kiss build and flew it today…. on defaults it feels a lot more locked in than my bf quads absolutely buttery smooth.
Hey you can put luminous tape on fpv frames and props and you fly it on night look what happens it will glow flying
YESS KISS ALL THE WAY 🚀🚀🚀
the fettec esc are sinusoïdal. this is the technology that makes it "smooth", but you don't necessarily have to couple it with "Kiss", with beta it also works, it's the first, expect it to happen generalize, (like controllers / esc for bicycles .. sinusoidal is much better, there it is the same ..) kiss is a world in itself, but it is the esc that makes the difference in my opinion. not the rest.
Agreed, the flight controller too does make a considerable difference.
@@FailsafeFPV yes, if i have the money i take a H7 with this esc. amazing for shure!
@@leflamantrosefpv1725 Nobody needs a H7 right now. Go with the fettec f7 fc along with the fettec esc. They pair very well together.
Ordered 1 hope it’s gonna be good
Come back n update us once it catches fire
@Flo-Rida FPV ? This isn't kiss hardware
are you fly with dshot 2400 or fettec onewire? anybody say has issue with dshot 2400 on fettec
LMAO and little boy giggles now ... 10:35
PIDs pls
Drew you a monster
are vannys tune available i want to check them out. I should say his kiss tune not his betaflight tune
Bro did u even watch the vid
@@Moonsauc3 yes I did and it only shows his betaflight tune not his kiss tune
Vanover got a new sponsor...
Definetly need more I term, and probably D term aswell as i see some bobble on the snap rolls. Flies good.
Sweet! No analog versions?
Nice! There gos any fettech stock