I Went HAMMOCK CAMPING on the Appalachian Trail! | Miranda in the Wild
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- I ditched my tent and went hammock camping! I've had lots of requests for a video on hammock camping, or "hammocking", and I went in feeling really skeptical. Is a hammock really better than a tent?! Watch the video to see if my night of hammock camping on the Appalachian Trail was a success, and if I become a hammock camping convert!
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Avid lady hammocker here - thanks Miranda for bringing positive light onto hammock packing! As some commenters have said below, and you pointed out, more distance between trees can only be of benefit (along with choosing straight trees). Additionally, you can get a flatter hang by using a longer hammock and laying diagonally in it. I even sleep on my side or stomach in my 12' hammock. Top and under quilts are your friends, and use your sit pad for extra insulation if you have any cold spots!
Finally...one of my favorite hammocking tips - hang low enough so you can make breakfast from the hammock. Nothing better.
Awesome tips Erica!
Hi Erica, may I know how tall you are ? I want to get into hammock camping (and choose the right hammock) and I would be so glad if I could sleep on my stomach too ! I am 5,9foot high and around 160lb, what hammock length / width could you recommend me, please ?
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don't forget ridgeline
@@benjamin5938 I'm about 5,8 though a fair bit heavier than you and I have really enjoyed my 11ft Onewind zippered bug net hammock its been comfy and you could definitely sleep in multiple positions. its easy to set up for beginners and isn't overly expensive. id recommend it. they also have a 12 foot that might be even better but for the tree spacing where I live 11 worked better for me.
I think the cut off is 5’6” I’m almost 5’3” & use a 10 ft. I was actually gonna say that it’s the only time I can wake w/ no back ache. I had my husband put a cheapie in our extra room & most every night sleep in it at some point. Either when he’s asleep or I’m snoring too much. It’s wonderful & the grandkids like it! At first I slept banana ‘cause it hangs from the ceiling & it pinched my shoulders. Then, he attached side hooks on the wall to support it stretched out. Perfect sleep & my chill spot to read. Extra room ‘cause I threw the bed out (gave to one of our kids). Now, room for yoga. If I want even more room for kids play I unhook one end.
Btw, I also toss & turn to sleep on back & both sides.
Thank you for pronouncing Appalachian correctly. From another former Virginian
AGREED! South Carolinian transplant to Oregon and this happens to me a lot out here!
Add my appreciation for the properly pronouncing Appalachian!
As a graduate of Appalachian State University, my thanks to you as well.
North Carolina here, very happy to it pronounced correctly.
WNC here and I confirm
Hammock camping in New Hampshire? New Hamping!
One tip: a hammock and its suspension tend to take up more length than one might imagine. Setting it up between trees that are further apart makes for less of the banana effect. Also the rain fly will fit better with more distance between the trees. Nice bug net!
Another thing: underquilts work wonders. I have a down one from ENO, it is absolutely toasty and you feel like you're laying in a giant human-shaped pot cozy.
Nice to see you slept really well in the end. Picking trees that are far enough apart is really a key detail.
Great tips Jeremy, I've used the Hennessy Sleep system with the snake skin covers, which makes the setup as easy as 1,2,3. Another tip to add to, is your supposed to sleep on the diagonal when using a hammock, which will place your body position almost flat, no banana body. I've used this system for many yrs and can't get enough of it. I highly recommend it, Try it out and happy camping!!
Everybody lays in them wrong, they lay straight so the very tight gather on both ends is uncomfortable. You're supposed to lay SIDEWAYS in a hammock... they're very comfortable that way.
@@BillySBC diagonal
Indeed, should have the hammock straps at about 30 degree angle. Also often more comfortable to have the feet side raised a bit more than head side. Others already mentioned laying diagonally.
Yes! And I always make a 'finger gun' shape and flip it (thumb up, forefinger parallel to ground) and touch my thumb tip to the suspension. You want the suspension to touch your fingertip, that is the angle you want).
I'd say, worry less about the ft off the ground for the suspension, and worry more about that angle, if that makes sense...
As a fellow Virginian, your pronunciation of Appalachian was 100% accurate. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. :)
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Frfr, as a NC native
there is no accurate way to pronounce it, it's all up to accents.
This is, most truly, the correct way to say it. Haha
I hate to agree with anyone from the old dominion, but as a proud West Virginian, I can confirm it is CHA and CHIN. NOT SHA or SHEA!
As a NH resident who primarily hammock camps I enjoyed this. I switched to hammock from tent mostly because I sleep so much better. I’m a big dude(about 270 pounds) and even with a pad tent sleeping killed my back. Using trees spaced further apart to really stretch the hammock gets rid of the “banana” effect. Also, rule one of hammock camping? Only string it as high off the ground as you’re willing to fall 😂
P S. Miranda should keep “Stumbles” as her nickname. It just makes her more endearing. Plus, it makes me look normal when I go camping which I’m called “Calamity” lol 😂
am I the only person who's internet handle, CB handle, gamers callsign, and nick name are all the same? Straycat
@@TheStraycat74 you might be yes ive got 2 gaming handles one of them is this one aka also my internet handle and then ofc ive got a different callsing for ham radio and my nickname is just my own name shortened
Calamity is an excellent camp name! I love that lol
Also greatly appreciated that Miranda knew the difference between knowledge and experience. Also the trial and error of setup showing that we all start off somewhere.
Like everything else, hammock camping is a learning experience. We're glad you enjoyed the video. Happy trails ⛺🌲
Maranda, congratulations on not giving up on the hammock. One thing I notice about "YOUR" generation is the hesitancy to get instruction from those who sorta know the ropes. I was glad to hear you say a few times that your issues were because of lack of experience. For example, there is absolutely no reason for "banana" sleeping. You just have to turn diagonal - head and shoulders on one side (pretty close to the edge) and feet to the other side.
For particulars ...
Site: You want trees about 12 to 15 feet apart - with no tree off to the side between them that would interfere with your tarp. Usually, the desired "sag" of the hammock puts the ends about 8-9 feet apart so the longer distance is for the tarp - which is usually 11 ft long.
Safety: I didn't see you look up to check for "widow makers" - loose branches up high ready to come falling down. Also, a least push a little on the tree to see how solid it feels. I'm sure you saw some large-diameter trees on their sides as you were hiking. Don't just trust "6 inches or larger".
Setup - tarp: You corrected that and remember, there is no rule that says the tarp ridgeline has to be level. If you tilt it a little, you'll have more control of where the runoff will go if it rains. One advantage with the hammock tarp is that, if it is raining, you can put the tarp up first, then set up the hammock under the tarp (where it's dry). Same with taking it down. pack everything away, while dry under the tarp, then take the tarp down last. Note that your tent friends have to put their tent up in the rain before they can put the rainfly on. You can also raise one corner or middle of the tarp with a hiking pole or stick for ease of entry (watch where the water runoff will go). Isn't nice not to crawl around on your hands and knees.
Setup - Hammock: There is no hard rule but most like their hammock to hang at a 30 degree (or 60 degree depending on which side you measure) angle off the tree. If you stick your thumb straight up and your index finger straight out (like a pretend gun) and hold that up to your hammock suspension as it comes off the tree - if the line touches the tip of your thumb and tip of your index finger - that's about right. Remember, that's a starting point. Some like it a little tighter, some like it a little looser. Once you find the setup that gives you just the right amount of sag, you can tie a cord to one end of your hammock and cut it at a length to tie at the other end. Then the next time you set up your hammock, that cord will let you know when the ends are your ideal distance apart. If you use a cord that's strong enough (not paracord - it's too stretchy), you can hang things on it - like a flashlight or that stuff sack with your personal items.
Sleeping: As mentioned, it's the diagonal lie that flattens you out. Many like the foot end of the hammock to be about 6 to 8 inches higher than their head. That reduces the tendency to "slide toward the middle". Also, the hammock itself supports your head. For me, the pillow creates too much of a tilt. Many put the pillow under one knee. It sometimes removes something called "calf ridge" - a tight line that pushes against your leg. It's all correctable with the right setup (for you).
Many people find the first night ... odd. Their muscles need to relearn how to relax. My guess is, by morning you were closer to a puddle of skin and bones on a cloud of down than you were when you first climbed in. When you can afford it, if you know you won't have to go-to-ground, you can invest in an underquilt (UQ). it's like the bottom half of a sleeping bag and it hangs tightly under your hammock - because most of the heat loss is by air currents (convection) under the hammock.
Other setup: You may eventually invest in a hammock with a built-in bug net. That will eliminate one part of your setup. Also, there is no problem hanging your pack from the hammock suspension. Your own body weight has so much "influence" that the pack will hardly make a difference. Try it at home. You can also hang up your hiking shoes and just use some flip-flops to slip on if you have to pee at night. You'll want to check them with a flashlight before you slide your feet in them. You saw your shoe visitor.
If you are serious about hammock camping, invest in a book called "The Ultimate Hang". For you, the first edition would be better than the second edition. 1) it's less expensive because you can buy it used. 2) it's smaller/lighter so you could take it with you for a while when you hike. 3) The second edition has more material, but not necessarily pertaining specifically to the camping environment.
And, as you surmised the next day, go to a local park, find two trees about 12 - 15 feet apart, and set up, and take down your hammock a few times. If you attach one end to the suspension, then walk towards your other suspension/tree, feeding the hammock out of its bag (someday switch to a double-ended stuff sack) as you go, you can set it up without ever letting the hammock touch the ground. Reverse when putting it away. Disconnect one end and as you walk toward the other end, stuff the hammock in its bag as you go. Eventually, you make use a bigger stuff sack. It's just easier.
Way too long for anyone to read
Probably from your generation more than Miranda’s but your first sentence made me ugh so hard. What evidence do you have of that? Maybe you just explain things poorly.
Lie diagonally in a hammock to lie flat. I started hammock camping two years ago, when I was 70. I have never considered going back to a tent. I sleep more soundly than at home.
I bought the ENO setup recently because my friends wanted to go camping - at that point in my life I was very over tent camping, but I love my friends, so I figured I'd give the hammock a try. I slept SO well that I could actually enjoy camping again. I'm a notoriously light sleeper, but with the comfy hammock setup I slept through raccoons visiting the camp and foxes screaming in the night.
Good job sticking with it, Miranda!
We're happy you found a love for hammock camping! 😊
We are so glad you had a positive experience with our gear. Cheers to many more hammock camping adventures to come!
I could see hammock camping in states with fire ants. Being off the ground isn't a perfect defense but it give you a fighting chance.
Hi friends! So many people have commented saying you're supposed to lie at an angle - and while this was great before I put my sleeping pad in the hammock, I struggled so much to do this with my sleeping pad! Next time I'll get an under quilt and give this a go. Any hammock+sleeping pad campers out there with some tips? Let me know! - Miranda
A double layer hammock is helpful for putting the pad between the layers, as to not worry as much about it moving around or affecting the fabric that is directly beneath you… Also, consider deflating the pad a decent amount prior to inserting it into the hammock, single or double layer, it will then give a bit more and be more forgiving related to position. In regard to under quilts… Check out Hammock Gear brand here in my home town in Ohio. Thanks again for all you do, you bring a unique take and spirit to the outdoors! Your fellow CZcamsr Shug Emery has one of the most extensive libraries regarding hammock tips, I highly recommend checking him out! A collab would be highly enjoyable and I know he is a big proponent of REI. If it goes down, I’d love to be on that trail! Take care.
Congrats on discovering the joy of hammocks .
The z rest is grippy enough to stay in place at an angle. Can place it in throw quilt to foot end and climb in and it’s still in the same place. Bug net is optional in many areas treat the whole hammock in Permethrin and anything outside a swamp is bite free.
I sometimes camp above tree line and have to go to the ground so under quilts are a no go but I can’t give up the chance to hammock when I can.
Love your videos!
If you aren’t going to use an a-symmetrical hammock, or a double layer hammock... I would recommend getting a double hammock, like an eno-doublenest, so you have more room to lay diagonally... and like someone else up there said Shug is an amazing resource on hammock camping.
Thank you for sharing your hammock camping tips with us!
If you're set on using a pad, try a bridge hammock. Your current hammock looks a little small. Larger hammocks tend to be easier to lie flat diagonally. Also, try increasing the sag. The tighter you have the hammock towards the trees, the more likely you are to end up like a banana. You can add a ridge line at home so you never have guess/fiddle with finding the right angle for the best sag.
Miranda, from a long time hammock camper (and native PNW woodsman) you did an OK job and good on you for giving it a second shot.
I would say part of your struggles setting up (and the complication of doing so) is that you treated it like a tent and tried to mimic all the stuff you’d do in a tent.
Bug nets are nice to keep the bugs away obviously but the add to the complexity of setup immensely (for most net options) and add bulk/weight to the setup. I know a lot of people also like them because they are used to having “a space” in a tent... but if you aren’t being eaten by bugs I would omit it. A simple solution is a sea to summit ultra mesh head net, and you wear that inside your sleeping bag. Alternately REI carries the “slime line” or SL version of the ENO bugnet which is packs smaller, is lighter, and much simpler to setup. It’s basically a simple mesh sleeve that goes over the hammock.
Also I never use a pillow in a hammock. If you have the right lay (which is something you have to practice to get consistent at doing), you wouldn’t need it. As others have commented a diagonal lay is key.
Similar to the pillow is a sleeping pad. I won’t say I never use them, but it’s very situation dependent. Either underquilt (which if you take the time to prep before can be very easy/quick to throw on) OR pad. Not both. I’ve got down below freezing with only 1 or the other. I find comfort is higher with the underquilt but if I do use a pad, having a good wide one helps. The lad can lay straight (which it will want to do) and you can lay diagonally on the pad.
Prepping items before hand also applies to the rain fly (which is also a bit like the bug net in terms of situation dependent). This is another item people feel like the HAVE to have for setting up that “space”, but adds to setup time/complexity. I typically have a bivy bag over my sleeping bag, and if I am pretty sure it won’t rain... I don’t even set it up. If you choose a good spot with tree cover and have the bivy just in case, you’ll be fine. I’ve worked up to sprinkling and just covered my face with the bivy haha. As to prepping the fly, using prussik loops on each guy line (or I think the pro fly has tensioners) and learning simple knots to tie everything quickly and tension easily is the game changer. Knowledge weighs nothing and only costs time. Obviously you don’t want to wake up to rain/snow without one, so you have to be careful with this one.
Last is the hang. Finding the right spacing of trees and sag of the hammock is another “you have to practice” thing that once you get comfortable makes the rest easy. As an aside, I spent time making the “perfect hang” at home, and then utilized a small piece of cordage to tie from end to end of the hammock creating a “structural ridge line”. Then when I go to setup each time after... all I do is pull till that ridge line is taught, and it will be the same every time. This has made setup worlds faster ever since.
If you implemented half of these things I could see setup taking you no longer than 10 min for yourself. I can do it in about 5 and be confident I will sleep well.
That was pretty good for a "first time" hammock camp. Everyday above ground, is a good day! :)
Hammocks are a bit fiddly -- but so are most shelter & sleep systems. Spend time in the backyard dialing in the hammock setup, and the setup at camp will get a lot quicker. One more point for the backyard setup -- once I get the bug net on, I leave it in place for the season. So that is one less thing to worry about with the setup at camp.
The eno hammock is too short to sleep on a diagonal for anyone who is not "fun size" -- my kids are about to outgrow these hammocks. 11ft is a good hammock length for most people. I am 5'6" and I can get by with a 126" hammock. I use a "structural ridge line" that helps to even out the hang from setup to setup. Start with a ridgeline about 83% the length of the hammock. Use zingit or dyneema or some other non-stretchy cord for the structural ridgeline. The structural ridgeline ensures that the hammock has the same amount of sag every time you setup. This will give you the same hang & lay everytime you setup. If you have a structural ridgeline, there are "ridgeline organizers" you can add to keep your pocket stuff organized
The first set of trees were too close together. I am glad you figured that out and picked some trees a bit further apart. I need about 12ft between trees as a minimum distance. You get really good at judging this distance if you hammock often. If not, you can practice with trekking poles in your hands in the backyard.
Add some "drip lines" to the hammock suspension -- this helps to keep water from sliding down the suspension lines and soaking the hammock in a rain storm.
If you are setting up in the rain, practice a "fly first" setup. This is how I always setup out of habit -- but it is nice to be able to create a little dry space when you get to camp.
Underquilts are ABSOLUTELY the way to go. With a sleeping pad, a double layer hammock will allow the pad to sit between the two layers of hammock fabric. That helps a LOT in keeping the pad under you. You can also try a 3/4 length pad, and tuck your feet into some warm socks & a jacket. The shorter pad is easier to manage in the hammock. There are some pads (e.g. Klymit Hammock Sleeping Pad) that include "wings" that will wrap around your shoulders in the hammock -- that can be helpful in keeping your whole self warm.
I cannot sleep on a pad in my hammock at all. It ends up on top of me every time. I am married to my underquilt!
Always sleep diagonally in a hammock. That will let you sleep as flat as possible. This is hammock camping 101
Ya my hammock has a guideline on both sides to help you lay flat with a built in bug net, and I know it was cheaper than anything from REI lol
I switched to hammock. You are so right! Lay diagonal across the center line. And I adjust my tension pretty tight. Sleeping all night like a banana is not pleasant. Nice video, keep posting.
just get a heaven
Hennessy Hammocks are best for this.
@@michaelbrown8441 Yup, the Haven tent hammock FTW!
Just a thought I had re: testing stuff out before going out and using it for realzies … that is sound advice for most people in most circumstances. One thing that is probably good about Miranda (or really any similar channel/person/creator) *not* doing too much of that-always, however, being safe-is that the camera can capture mistakes or "sub-optimal" setup issues, or problems that crop up, and then viewers can hear and see how Miranda solves them, which might be beneficial for viewers. Maybe there is a middle ground possible with that, where Miranda doesn't have to suffer through "teething" issues while only a couple of hours away from needing to be able to sleep or whatever, but that there is still a way to capture some of the headaches or difficulties that can arise from new-to-me equipment or procedures. Anyway, just something that occurred to me when she mentioned the idea of making sure to test out the setup at home before needing to rely on it in the wild.
We're happy to see so many people learning from and connecting with Miranda's learning experience!
Always fun to see “everything” including burps and stumbles. Shows how real this whole experience is and also how fun and beautiful hiking can be. Really some great pointers
I'm so glad you slept well!
There are probably other comments about this, but there are much better hammock setups for comfort and ease of setup. The ENO hammocks are OK for lounging, but they are pretty short and narrow and aren't great for camping. A longer and wider hammock will allow you to get a good diagonal flat lay. In addition, an underquilt and top quilt will just make the whole process of getting in your hammock and getting comfortable a LOT easier. Instead of having to make sure the sleeping pad is in place where you want it, and trying to work your way into your sleeping bag, you just lay into your hammock and cover up with the top quilt.
But having said all of that, I'm glad you slept well and had a good experience.
ENO also makes a large double size that's great.
@Spitch Grizwald yup, very much agree. Go cottage company.
Watching this episode from my tent...bedroom camped last night with my mini me to test out our new gear.
We hope it went well! Are you going camping soon?
@@rei it did! Way more comfortable than expected. Going backpacking next year as we get gear, hoping to do some regular camping trips before then, even of it's just in someone's yard
Sounds awesome! Happy trails ⛰️⛺🥾
Nice adaptations! One of the things I love most about hammocking is having a connection to nature by being able to see it from under the fly. I enjoy tarps for the same reason. It makes me feel very connected. Also, when camping in Texas, it was great to be off the ground when rattlers and copperheads were active. : )
Hammock camping is fun and can potentially save lives 😂
Your sense of humor and cheerfulness is just wonderful. You had me hooked within the first 30 seconds.
APA-LATCH-IN......OMG, so funny. We love you Miranda!
So every year my buddy and I go for a week long vacation and car camp. While in Menards (A home improvement store) I saw a box of Glidesmans hammocks for $20. so on impulse, I bought a couple for my buddy and me. We took off on our trip, set up our large eight man tent and the rest of camp. Then we set up our hammocks for fun. They did not have tree straps instead hung by stretchy cordage. My buddy and I knew nothing about hammocks, never seen a video, noting. just playing around during the day I adjusted that hammock a hundred times, it sagged, ended up touching the ground and I wasn't comfortable to sleep in it. Relaxing during the day, fine, but sleeping, no way. So we slept in the tent and chilled in hammocks during the day, reading a book, etc. But I swore I could never sleep in one.
This year I got a hair up me bum and watched some videos, buying some tree straps off of amazon. We packed up for our normal week long trip. arrived, took at least an hour to set up the large 8 man tent, staking, adjusting, re staking, etc. Finally get it up and all our stuff in the tent and unpacked. Then we set up our hammocks with the new tree straps and new found knowledge. we were both done with our hammock set up in 10 minutes each. 50 minutes faster than setting up that tent together! Then I climb in, lay asymmetrical and am comfortable for the first time. But we didn't try to sleep in them that night, we spent it in the tent. We were camped on a slight incline on a hill and in the night me and my buddy kept sliding down and would wake up and have to reposition. That was a misrable night. The next night we decided to try the hammocks. We were worried about CBS, so we put down foam pads in the hammock followed by our bags. I had a zero degree bag and the low temp was only 40 degrees. Well that night I was sweating and kicked off part of the bag and then was fine. it was one of the best nights sleep I have ever had. on a 7 day, 8 night trip we spent 1 night in the tent and the rest in hammocks. I never tossed or turned once. The tent became a storage shed only. We rigged a tarp up over our hammocks on the 5th day as rain was suppose to come that night. It was such a great time! We decided from now on we are ditching the tent, period.
When I got home from that trip and went to bed in my bed I couldn't get comfortable. I sleep on a waterbed and have all my life. (I'm 41) It has always been the most comfortable bed ever. Then I get back from the camping trip and get in my bed that night and my back felt arched, pressure points all over my body and I tossed and turned all night. I slept like crap. I missed my hammock!
My buddy and I expressed desire to go backpacking and now that we have ditched the giant tent we feel like we can do it. So I have been watching your videos Miranda and others and learned alot. We go on our first backpacking trip next month. 3 day trip, 4.5 miles in and 4.5 back out. We bought new hammocks with a intergraded bug net and I put grommets in mine and added a ridgeline. It also came with a rain fly so no heavy tarp needed. Tested in my back yard and all seams well. Also picked up the Klymit Insulated Hammock V with an R rating of 4.4. So will pair that with my 0 bag and and foam pad on the bottom. We are planning on night time temps reaching a low of 20 degrees so this will be a new test!
Miranda, I am really glad you tried hammock camping after watching videos and learning, it sure helped me! I am in love with hammocks and not sure I will ever go back to a tent. I enjoy your video and have learned a lot from them, thank you!
Wow! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experiences and new-found love for hammocks. We hope your backpacking experience next month is the best one yet. We're thrilled to hear how much you're enjoying the videos and finding them helpful at the same time. Be sure to stay tuned for more adventures with Miranda! 😁
@@rei You are welcome! please keep putting out videos, They are very entertaining and helpful at the same time. Thank you!
@@rei So My friend and did our backpacking trip. We got snowed on! lol. Videos on our journey are up on my channel if anyone is interested.
Miranda pronounced it correctly!
A ridgeline being added is the most important thing you can do for your comfort. An Eno double nest hammock with a ridgeline tied between the two caribiners at a specific distance that can be calculated easily, you lay at an angle to the ridgeline and use the extra fabric to stretch out and you can lay rather flat. I have actually been able to turn over on my stomach and lay prone face down like a floating body. someone made a cool hammock math calculator if you Google enough you’ll find it
Pro-tip. Get a double person hammock, sleep sideways (diagonal). No banana back. Totally worth the extra couple oz.
If cold put down a heat barrier between your bag and the hammock.
Don't trust the crap carbiners that come with em, buy a couple cheap climbing rated ones.
Some adjustable hammock straps are mandatory. Multi-loop climbing sling things work even better, I bring 3, so I can extend one to get more options for hanging.
I think your overall mentality of "wow this sucked. Let's be better next time" is why you're so awesome at this camping thing.
I'm really happy you made adjustments for a better sleep. When I first started this video, I was so concerned you didn't research enough 😂 but yay! You did it! You know the great slumber!!!!
The videography in some of those panning scenic shots were really beautiful. Props to your video team (or teammate if it was one person).
They definitely did a great job. Thanks for watching!
Miranda is the GOAT. Thank you for the quality vids REI and Miranda.
We're glad you enjoy them, Shay!
I love the fun testing and explaining videos so much it’s very exciting to see you on your journey in life!
Miranda definitely does an awesome job of making content exciting, yet informative and fun too! Thanks for watching. 😊😄
I think that no matter what gear you try, just keep a good attitude like Miranda and hopefully everything will work out! 👍😁❤
A positive attitude can shift an entire experience!
Glad to see you discovered what you did wrong and corrected it so you had a much more enjoyable nights sleep.
Another fun video! Thanks, Miranda and The Gang! I've got all the stuff--now, I've got the motivation, too! :)
Happy 50th episode!! Love your honesty about hammock camping!
Thanks for the love ❤️
I was recently gifted a hammock setup by a friend who'd never used hers. This reminded me to dig it out and give it a try! Good job facing your fears, Miranda. Keep on trying new things!
We hope hammocking goes well! Good luck ❤️
Do you know what kind of hammock setup you were gifted?
@@finalmage6 Hennessy Hammock Expedition A-sym (I think this is a "classic" zipperless).
@@katye.3795 I have one of those! Great starter setup because they come with almost everything someone needs to go hammock camping! They're on the smaller side for some people, but for anyone 5'7'' or under, that particular setup works really well!
Thanks for the info! I'm looking into how to set it up now, just in time for a rain storm.
Once I had my first successful sleep in a hammock, I never turned back to tents again! Yes, it can take a bit more time and effort sometimes. Finding goods trees, good area to put the tarp, storing bag, etc. But then you just feel so much more connected. It's like you say 'good morning' with all the tree and the wild. And you get good covering area to do a bunch of stuff. I like the feeling of not knowing precisely if it's gonna work perfectly in a day or not. You just have to find a way to mount it, and every time it's going to be a bit different. You'll need to ingrain with nature. You'll get a pro with time 😎 hugs from Portugal!
Thanks for the encouragement, Fábio!
I cant overstate how much I love your videos. Great information and funny!
Thanks for watching Kevin! Miranda is the best.
Glad you had a good night in the hammock! Takes some effort but is really comfortable once you get it right.
I have been Hammock Camping for over 10 years now so here are a few tips for how Miranda or anyone watching this could improve on her set up:
1. You are gonna want to sleep diagonally so that you lay flat and are not a "Banana".
2. You can always check your angle with a quick 'finger gun' on the suspension line (after you have sat in it), roughly 30 degrees.
3. An underquilt will be more comfortable than using a pad, but I understand budget restrictions exist.
4. Her set up was more complicated than any I have ever used if you're willing to spend the money it is really easy to get one with a built in net.
She was using an ENO setup that was so much more expensive than some of the hammocks with attached nets. I also agree with the underquilt.
This, I was coming here to mention sleeping diagonally.
This is great! I love seeing the mistakes you made setting up your hammock. I'm going hammock camping for the first time this weekend and now I have a much better understanding of setting up! Thank you!!
You're welcome!! I'm so glad it helped you - it was a really fun experience for me!
I hope your first experience went well. I converted to a hammock in 07 and haven't looked back since.
@@justcausee I'm a side sleeper and it was so much more comfortable! I'm so glad I invested in a hammock, it's the way of my future!
I love to sleep in my hammock it is the best sleep I’ve ever had! You are suspended from the ground and you only have to worry about the wind causing a chill to your back. My recommendation is to buy a underquilt to help keep you warm and avoid that chill. Keep on hammock camping!
What a twist!!!! Great video! You are so entertaining :)
The top secrets for a great Hammock camp; Underquilt, Snake-Skins, amsteel slip suspension.
And not an ENO hammock lol
@@IAmApollo eno or any short gathered end hammock tend to be my favorite, ive owned and still own other types and brands as well as custom set ups but tend to use shorter gathered end hammocks more often... whatever makes you happy outside and makes you wanna be there more is the right gear.
What are snake skins and armsteel slip suspension?
@@evercuriousmichelle snakes skins are fabric tubes to cover and uncover your hammock set up quicker and pack down faster unless everything is wet(see hennessy hammocks). amsteel slip suspension or "whoopie slings" are a type of suspension to hang your hammock the largest benefit to them is how light and small they are for their strength. i dont use either one of these pieces of equipment right now in any of my setups but some folks really like them. best thing to do is try a bunch of set ups, there really isnt such thing as good, better, best for gear as much as there is a preference for a situation. hammocking is a bit of an adventure in tinkering. have fun hanging outside.
@@evercuriousmichelle Snakeskins are like a stuff sack for hammocks. Long tubular fabric that you slide over the hammock. It looks a lot like a python. It makes hanging the hammock a lot easier as you don't have loads of fabric blowing around. Amsteel is a type of cordage, often doubled back on itself to form an adjustable suspension system called a whoopee sling. It works on the same principle as a Chinese finger puzzle and cuts down on weight a lot.
The Hennessey Hammock's with the built in bug net and with the rain fly with the optional "snakeskins" are pretty excellent, very fast to put up and take down, no fiddling with bug netting or anything, and they pack down fairly well with the snakeskins.
Welcome to the wonderful world of hammock camping! I’ve enjoyed it for years. A few tricks I’ve learned along the way 1) Hammocks and the straps stretch so the tighter you get them the more comfortable you’ll be by morning. 2) Having some light cord that you can tie between the trees and under your rain fly will give you something to hang your pack and shoes and keep everything off the ground. After that it is really preference based stuff. Have fun experimenting! (Oh yeah, good video too!)
Wow, always wanted and will do Hammock camping. Your editor is fabulous.
For those who have hammock hiking a quick couple of questions
1. Is there other options that wrap around tree that is more gentle to tree?
2. At each end of the hammock how do you prevent rain drops from crawling along the line down into your hammock
3. How do you normally change clothes? Seems a little more tricky in the hammock with it swinging back and forth
4. Do you normally pack the fly screen part separately from the hammock or do you have it together?
5. What do you do when you are in area with no trees?
Thanks again and appreciate your insights
1. Those are pretty standard tree straps. Never have mine harmed a tree.
2. I've hammock camped in some pretty torrential rain and never had a problem, but basically a lot of hammocks have rain guides that direct the rain downward before getting to the hammock.
3. We just get out and change. Some people use the tarp for privacy though. Alternatively, it is a learned skill to change in the hammock.
4. Depends on the hammock. Hennessy Hammocks come with a zip fly or a full fly and bottom entry. Many brands have their own bug net solution. I personally prefer an attached bug net rather than the ENO version shown in the video.
5. If I know there are not trees, I take a tent. Other than that, set the tarp up with hiking poles, and use the hammock like a bivy of sorts if you have a built in bug net.
Check out hammock forums for information, answers and photos.
1) Proper tree straps do net damage a tree in any way. People improperly pooping in the woods do much more damage.
2) My suspension lines create a natural place for water to drain and drip before reaching your hammock system. Many tents and rain flies use a similar type of drainage theory to handle rain and condensation before it reaches you in the tent.
3) Changing clothes is pretty easy. you can sit up in your hammock with feet over the edge or stand up. Many of us bring a piece of tyvek or small ground cloth to place on the ground that we step on as we get in and out....just as I do when in a tent. The tarp also makes a great dressing room is its in the down position. It also makes it easier to put your system up or take it down in the rain, all under the protection of the tarp.
4) Many UL hammock systems have a screen and/or a wind cover incorporated into the hammock itself with a sip opening. Mine actually can sip up into a little package at one end in case I decide I don't want to use it.
5) Hammocks and tarps can also be suspended using fences, rock formations and trekking poles. They can be set up looking more like a tarp/bivy set up and are just as comfortable. If you have an extended trip above tree line, then going to ground may be easier in a tent. I've car camped using a fence and my vehicle to suspend my hammock. I've used rock formations when trees were to bushy or unavailable. Since I often use a tarp and bivy, adapting a rain fly and hammock to the ground is pretty easy.
Miranda suggests changing under your rain fly, and just warning your my camp buddies to stay in a spot where they won’t see 😊
1. Tree straps are reasonably gentle on trees, simply choose trees carefully and look for trees that do not have fragile bark. If you are still concerned you could bring scraps of pipe insulation, pool noodle or closed cell foam scraps to put between the tree and strap. Not necessary if you pick the right trees.
2. You can use either the excess of your suspension to facilitate run off, or like many who hammock regularly, you can simply use some cordage larks-headed to the suspension to prevent your hammock from getting wet.
3.Usually, having a good tarp in conjunction with your set up will give you adequate space to change with reasonable privacy. I recommend less modesty, it helps a lot.
4. Typically I would pack the tarp system separately, so if you have rain or condensation, you don’t get the hammock or insulation wet.
5. Plan ahead and either use your hammock like a bivvy or just bring a pad and quilt/bag. But if you are camping without trees in the area, you should plan for that.
Thanks everyone for the replies. Definitely looking forward to trying hammock style camping. I appreciate all the positive vibe
I personally love hammock camping! I have a bad back and I can actually sleep well in one. Great video!
Love to hear it! Do you have a favorite hammock?
@@rei yes! The hubby and I use the independent maker Dutchware. And for me, I use a sleeping pad, an over quilt, and under quilt. We camped this weekend and I was nice and cozy with the 49 degree weather. But what other folks said here it correct, the spacing of trees and the head / foot angle (non banana) makes all the difference.
Sounds like a great setup! Thanks so much for taking the time to share. 😊 We're glad you enjoyed the video and hope you'll stay tuned for more content from Miranda! 😍⛰️🌲
Thank you for an awesome video! I through hiked the AT in 2015 with a clarke Jungle hammock, and I am now an ambassador of hammock camping! Thank you for being open to the attempt and sharing your experience!
Neat adventure. Thanks for taking us along
Hi Miranda! Could you please review hiking pants? How to pick good basic ones to have that would cover all seasons/weather conditions would be amazing. Apologies if you've done it somewhere recently I've been on a Miranda binge and haven't seen any.
Much love from Guam. If you ever come to Guam for hiking I'd love to hike with you! There is a national historical park here.
Also excited to do hammock camping!
You're going to have to sacrifice somewhere. Nothing works for every situation. Looks up Andrew Skurka. His System is basic and adaptable to all situations. I believe it's 13 pieces. Everything needs proper planning. Gear List depends on conditions.
@@dustyc324 thank you for your response, I believe Miranda can cover a few good basic pants for women. I’m not expecting her to pick a single pair, I’m expecting a range. And I would like to hear from a woman, not a man, but thanks for your suggestion.
If you got a new trail name it would probably be "Belcher", so I'm not sure you'd want a new one.
My first backpacking trip in Yosemite was a hammock camp! I fell in love immediately and have been doing it whenever possible
Ha! I knew that the trees were to close together 💟 Well done ✅✅✅ I myself have done a lot of hammock camping but for this summer I'm buying the Haven tent hammock. It's a lay flat hammock. Thank you for the video I enjoyed it 👍👍
15:15 yup noticed your trees were too close. I don't particularly care for hammocks but sure is alot easy getting out of them, then a tent or least for me. I don't get off the ground so easy anymore. My knees are shot. And im a big guy.
I went out last weekend. Kinda under the weather this week.
Double click on the like button.
We hope you feel better and can enjoy the outdoors again soon 🥰
@@rei thank you
"I did my research. I read a bunch."
But did you watch Shug's videos?!
Whooo buddy!
All secure in sector 7!
Where's the Medaglia D'Oro?
Stumbles!!!!! Hilarious 😂 she looked soo excited to get a new nickname
Miranda hello from the east coast so glad you're here!!!
I prefer hammock camping because I hate putting away a tent in the morning when there’s condensation on it / underneath it 😅 or setting up a tent on damp ground. But I can’t store a lot of big things like I could with a tent. Pros and cons for each setup!
Fair point! Everyone has their preference. Thanks for stopping by! 😄
Eno’s are way too small for me to sleep comfortably. I use an 11’ Dutch half zip which has been perfect for me. Combined with a good tarp and decent underquilt, it has provided me with years worth of excellent shelter in the woods with great sleep.
This was really fun, you are adorable!! Just a little PSA here: I don't know why most people insist on sleeping on hammocks horizontally. I mean you guys had come as far as create sleeping pads for that use, NO, Please stop! On a hammock one sleeps DIAGONALLY with your head as up as you can, that way you don't get the banana feeling and your feet don't lose blood, also sleeping diagonally you can turn through the night and sleep on your side. Take it from somebody who lives in a place where houses have hammocks instead of beds. (Oh! Also, if a plant it's fuzzy or bleeds whitish juice if you break it, DON'T TOUCH IT, you'll regret it! hahaha)
I love the pouch on your backpack strap. Very practical
Western North Carolina here... yes... it’s “app-uh-latch-uh” =]
I will second this! If you are from here you know how to say it. I am from WNC as well and there is definitely a "LATCH" in there. It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to hear it pronounced the other way.
Miranda don't let them tell you your saying Appalachian wrong. Hearing people say it without the "tch" is how you know they are tourists.
Awesome trip, thanks for sharing Miranda!
Thanks for stopping by!
@@rei Of course!
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself! I love sleeping in my hammock. I miss it when I ground camp. I kinda love being able to scootch around and have my feet be a bit higher to give them a bit of relief from hiking all day!
I use a carabineer on the strap that's around the tree trunk to hang my pack off the ground.
Love your videos!!
Thanks for the love! Glad you enjoyed the video. 😍
I've watched a lot of these, "I tried out hammock camping" things and the thing that always confuses me is why don't you take someone that camps in a hammock? They all seem to just kind of try it. I like that Miranda did adjust things, but some of those mistakes you wouldn't make because someone would tell you not to do that. Just like a tent. Don't set up where the rain might flow, check for sticks. Hammocks have those kinds of things too but they're different. I also wish she would have tried an underquilt. I see people sleeping on sleeping pads in hammocks and just wonder how uncomfortable that must make it. But people do it so I guess it can't be too bad! Either way I really like that she got to experience hammock camping! Great video!
It's about the journey! In some respects this is a much more realistic scenario because not everybody would know a hammock-camping guru, but wants to try it out nonetheless and end up doing pretty much what Miranda did.
@@Duckferd I'm not against experiencing something new. But if I went out camping in a tent, and said the ground was too cold and the wind almost blew over my tent, and all the walls were soaking wet when I woke up, so I decided not to camp anymore, would you say well it was about the journey? No, you'd say why didn't you ask someone how to set up a tent properly and to teach you about sleeping pads.
@@griftin this implies that Miranda did zero research, which is obviously not what happened. She is an experienced hiker who did her research beforehand but did not do any test setups. She did acknowledge that she should have tried this out in the backyard but she did fine for a first simple overnight test and came away with a positive experience. If hiking was gatekept to only people who have 100% experience before ever setting out in the first place or have access to someone with years of experience, most people would never leave the house.
@@Duckferd I think you guys are missing my point. but I'm over it. take care.
Just doing a test setup in your backyard or nearby park helps eliminate most of the "teething" issues with hammock camping, for the same reasons you're always told to test your tent and other equipment before going camping. The best tip I've found was actual instructions on how to sleep in a hammock (i.e. diagonally). Knowing that, you immediately see the problem with standard sleeping pads. There is one company that makes a hammock specific pad I've found, but there's a reason underquilts exist.
you're gonna get SO many expert comments
Hammock camper here… some things that changed the game for me, structural ridge line, under-quilt, gear hammock under main hammock, and ridge line organization. Plus for any taller folks out there 11’ hammocks are the way to go!
Great tips, Haiden! We love when our community shares what works for them.
Hi Miranda, I’m 68 and unfortunately not backpacking anymore. Bad knees! Back in 1974 a friend and I went on a month long backpacking trip in the High Sierras. Except for a few nights we slept in our hammocks. Rigged up a rain tarp over our hammocks for thunderstorms. Our hammocks were nothing like yours but they worked. Fun watching you camping and hammocking.
Love your videos, so quirky and awesome. But… It is really funny that your producers made fun of your for correctly pronouncing the locale. West coast ignorance at its finest. Also, just a tip, you would enjoy hammock camping more if you sleep at a 30 degree angle and not “like a banana”, you will not be as bent, enclosed or have your feet as high. I recommend Shug Emery’s YT for concise and entertaining advice on the subject. Wish I could go on an adventure with the hilarious Miranda in the Wild! Keep on keepin’ on Stumbles, wink.
Thank you for the advice 😄👍
As a Canadian who immigrated to the US 20 yrs ago I am constantly told I am pronouncing words incorrectly. There is always a debate about whether it should be proper grammar or historical slang...like Creek or Crick...lol ....I say we spend less time picking someone's choice of pronunciation apart and just enjoy the conversation, lets face it we all know what they mean...
Never camped in a hammock but slept in one. You are supposed to lay in it sideways that way it is flat. That’s 20 year old info.
Great video! Hammock camping takes a bit of time to get the “hang of” but when you do it is a pretty great way to enjoy the outdoors.
We see what you did there. 😉 Glad you enjoyed the vid, Aaron! 😄
I'm just gonna leave a comment saying, I haven't watched this video yet, but I'm subscribing. I saw a couple of your other videos which turned out to be very informative, and your vibe is very affectious. :) Keep it going!
Yes. Yes it is pronounced Apa-latch-yuhn.
Pro tip: Lay diagonally in a banana hammock for the best spine comfort and stability
Thanks for the advice, Jonathan ❤️
@@rei np. former 36, Tualatin + 199 Tampa. I'm always seeking to help people!
Did my first hammock camp this summer up in Temagami, Northern Ontario, and LOVED it. First night was a pain because I hadn't set it up right, and it also stormed like crazy so couldn't make and meaningful adjustments without getting soaked - turns out I had the thing stretched way too tight - but by the second night I had it up right and it was absolutely blissful. Highly suggest an under-quilt, though it does take up quite a bit more in the pack - very much worth it if you have the room. I also found having a ridge line inside the bug net is also a good hack to hang your small stuff off during the night. Thanks for another great video - Happy camping!
Great info for us considering giving this a go. Thanks!
We hope you get the opportunity!
Banana hammock: "a thing people hand fruit from."
It seems Miranda has never been to a European beach...and consequentially been exposed to images you can't un-see...[shutters].
I'm also not sure she has watched friends. I would suggest a new trail name "Princess Consuela banana-hammock " czcams.com/video/QbpmgWJQScc/video.html
That seems like an overly complex setup…get an integrated or zip on bug net. An underquilt is much more comfy… lay at an angle, etc…
Once dialled in you will sleep like a log… I get up and all aches and pains are gone… I use tents sparingly…
Boop! Fantastic episode!!! Wooooh!!!
Thank you!
Welcome to my neighborhood! It was so fun to see you in the Whites! I started with the exact same set up and the pad is definitely not optimal. Once you switch to an underquilt and get a flat lie you may want to convert Vince to a hammock van. Such a comfy cozy night’s sleep. Loved watching you work through some of the newbie foibles. Huzzah to breaking preconceived notions!
Right on! Thanks for stopping by, Dayna!
I call it pirate or Navy camping. It's how they used to sleep on ships before they had bunk beds.
Loved this video. She is so fun .
your genuine YOUness is contagious. Just sharing happiness. Thank you.
That's why Miranda is the best!
@@rei 100%. Miranda and her entire team, including the social media/YT team deserve a raise. What you all have put together is special. This many people all firing on the right cylinders at the right time, it’s rare. The shots in this episode are beautiful and put me right there on the hike. Thank you all!
I have almost this same exact setup (that I got from REI!) And have only been able to use it a handful of times but I've loved it every time! I was SO happy to see you try this!! Thanks for getting out of your comfort zone for this fabulous video! 🥰
Love it! Hopefully you can use it more in the future. 😍
Oh I'm definitely planning on it! 😍
We are happy to hear you are enjoying your ENO gear. Cheers to more hammock camping adventures!
Look forward to them every sunday wish they were longer
i use a piece of tyvek under my setup for boots and pack, i find it very convenient and adds very little weight. also hiking poles propping up one side of the rain fly make the hammock a nice place to sit with a view, even if it rains.
Three things are game changers for me in a hammock. 1. A structural Ridgeline takes the tension out of the body of the hammock. 2. An under quilt vs a sleeping pad will up your comfort 100%. 3. An 11' hammock vs the big box store eno style will improve comfort and allow you to more easily sleep corner to corner, vs a banana. Short hammocks have less material for you to lay diagonal.
OMG You are a gassy riot! Would love to see more of your meal prep and cooking. I am 71 and avid camper, in a teardrop. Everything done outside but warm comfy bed. Give it a try on forest land!
Thanks for sharing. Have been wondering about hammock camping. Looks like it’s possible to be happy doing it.
I’m so glad she adjusted before actually using it! I was like nooooo those trees are way too close together! Key to hammocking is getting a good hang between trees!
Yassssss, you got it!!!
LOL I love your humor! MUSHROOMS!!!!!
Only the 50th feels like so much more, enjoy Miranda's presentation and the fine editing (content as well) hope to see MANY more.
Thanks James! There's more videos where this came from! 👋 We'll see you again on Sunday.
You're awesome Miranda!
Miranda is so cute. Always a fun moment
Love the videos that are jam-packed with Miranda-isms! And what a bonus end twist! Pun intended! Might just get a hammock just to try that move! Hahaha.
Ha! Well if you do, be careful out there. 😅
@@rei I sure hope Miranda's hammock stunt took just one take... 🤭 I mean, with a nickname like 'Stumbles'.. 😅
I have the same Eno set up as this (that I don't use too) and I have to say that you nailed it!!!
Love Miranda videos! She is awesome!
The best!
It's great to see you trying new things! Have you ever tried Geocaching in woods?
Some tips from an avid hammock backpacker/camper.
1. Sleep diagonally. This allows for a flatter lay and helps avoid the banana lay.
2. Purchase a premium hammock with an amsteel Ridgeline built in. I know miranda only uses rei products and REI isn't huge on hammocks other than ENO but it is not a premium hammock. A ridgeline prevents the hammock from squeezing you while laying in it.
3. She had a pad under her which is fine but an underquilt is the best way to go. This keeps your underside warm and trust me this is the most important feature. Unless the temps dont drop below 75 you will get cold.
Brand recommendations:
Dream hammock, Dutchware hammocks, and warbonnet outdoors.
For hammock info shugemery is great on youtube.
Hammock camping has changed my view on sleeping outdoors as its as comfy as it gets so definitely try it out and remember you get what you pay for.