This guest turns into a goof at the end. I was there with Fuchs in the chapel. I was there when the first draft of a manifesto of visionary art was handed out by its author. My studio was on top of The Temple in L.A. I argued with them about the meaning of the word visionary and was happily ostracized when I called out their Motte-and-Bailey fallacy. To them the term “visionary” means the systematized depiction of entheogenic(drug induced) hallucinations. Not a master who’s work transcends time, bringing to light that which all of humanity has always known, yet has up until that moment, not known how to articulate (Though they love to proclaim they are doing that very thing). The “visionary” art movement is the least sentimental and most dangerous. It reduces the spiritual to the collective mundane. The newest breed of “visionaries” are the worst. They’re a cult of monads radiating rainbow lasers. Just look at their work, it’s all the same “vision”.
All art is propaganda, Public art even more so. Just stroll around Washington D.C. and witness all of the 2nd and 3rd rate monuments, many of them extolling state violence, most of them utterly uninspiring, and ultimately depressing.
he put the italian jews in an internment camp because they were italian, not because they were jews. to him they were jewish Italians, and Italians were bad.[even though he thought Mussolini was good]
I did have a look at Roger Deans work. It is not the world I would like to live in. Nature is so important for the mental and physical health of life.Distorting nature in the way he does takes us further away from the real world which distorts our consciousness which is a major problem in our psyche in these times. Manipulating nature and how we view it can create a lots of issues about what is real and what is not.
Of course Lenin and Stalin appreciated film as an art form for propaganda, hence the Russian film movement of Eisenstein, and so on in the 20s and 30s.
Love this talk, thank you. Michael's positive take on the imaginative "magical realism" is very heartening.
Thank you for everyone's time and efforts, it's amazing to see how the channel has grown since episode 1
Excellent topic and presentation. TY
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Thank you. So valuable. I never waste my time here.
I love so much your discussions and guests. Enjoy it so much!
It's wonderful to learn so much about the history here. I'd had no idea about all these connections. This is such a wonderful channel.
I enjoyed your chat. I had dinner once with Clement Greenberg. What a wonderful critique.
Great interview BUT the last 10 minutes is spectacular!
I would hope to hear MPs take on Graphic Novels at some point.
Really interesting interview, what a deep dive!
This guest turns into a goof at the end. I was there with Fuchs in the chapel. I was there when the first draft of a manifesto of visionary art was handed out by its author. My studio was on top of The Temple in L.A. I argued with them about the meaning of the word visionary and was happily ostracized when I called out their Motte-and-Bailey fallacy. To them the term “visionary” means the systematized depiction of entheogenic(drug induced) hallucinations. Not a master who’s work transcends time, bringing to light that which all of humanity has always known, yet has up until that moment, not known how to articulate (Though they love to proclaim they are doing that very thing). The “visionary” art movement is the least sentimental and most dangerous. It reduces the spiritual to the collective mundane. The newest breed of “visionaries” are the worst. They’re a cult of monads radiating rainbow lasers. Just look at their work, it’s all the same “vision”.
Is there a reason this book is 70$ on amazon?
All art is propaganda, Public art even more so. Just stroll around Washington D.C. and witness all of the 2nd and 3rd rate monuments, many of them extolling state violence, most of them utterly uninspiring, and ultimately depressing.
he put the italian jews in an internment camp because they were italian, not because they were jews. to him they were jewish Italians, and Italians were bad.[even though he thought Mussolini was good]
Stupendous balderdash on display here
Nothing to see here just a time stamp for me to remember, 34:10
I did have a look at Roger Deans work. It is not the world I would like to live in. Nature is so important for the mental and physical health of life.Distorting nature in the way he does takes us further away from the real world which distorts our consciousness which is a major problem in our psyche in these times. Manipulating nature and how we view it can create a lots of issues about what is real and what is not.
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Of course Lenin and Stalin appreciated film as an art form for propaganda, hence the Russian film movement of Eisenstein, and so on in the 20s and 30s.
Another narrative of victimhood, by those who are in fact popular, successful and doing well -- so tiresome :(
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