How the rift between Ray Allen and the Celtics got so big

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    Rajon Rondo has confirmed that the Celtics are leaving Ray Allen out of their 10-year championship vacation this summer, which prompted me to want to tell the full story of how the rift started between Ray and the Celtics in the first place. Enjoy!
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  • @VICTORGENTRY
    @VICTORGENTRY Před 7 lety +1152

    Ray should call up the former Miami players and have a 5 year championship reunion just to piss off Rondo Lmao.

    • @tiismuna
      @tiismuna Před 7 lety +84

      victor gentry LBJ would make an every year party for Ray, if he have a time he can make it everyday for what Ray did.. LMAO

    • @mrsain19
      @mrsain19 Před 7 lety +37

      shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 Před 7 lety +10

      He should.
      Hail Jesus Shuttleworth!

    • @ARS_Time_Bomb
      @ARS_Time_Bomb Před 7 lety +14

      victor gentry LMAO that would be funny and I hate the Heat team 😂😂😂😂

    • @roberdanger
      @roberdanger Před 6 lety +11

      and send invites to the celtics as well lol

  • @jacobknighten798
    @jacobknighten798 Před 7 lety +1966

    the way rondos personality is, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he carried that championship Celtics team

    • @artelisaris
      @artelisaris Před 7 lety +54

      I think he actually said he was the part of the big three with garnet and pierce.But dont quote me on that

    • @menaalex8
      @menaalex8 Před 7 lety +218

      Jacob Knighten rondo kept Boston competitive longer than they should have a walking triple double an all NBA defense selection he was a top 3 pg until teared his acl that was when his career ended

    • @TheBoxOfCreativity
      @TheBoxOfCreativity Před 7 lety +28

      Arturas Višniauskis No he said I always thought of us as the Big 4

    • @jacobknighten798
      @jacobknighten798 Před 7 lety +9

      Alex Mena rondo literally said in an interview that he hadn't played defence in years, while he was still a Celtic, he got steals sure, but he was a stat junky, he would go for steals when he shouldn't gamble. I can tell u as a bulls fan he does it all the time

    • @telamon1071
      @telamon1071 Před 7 lety +81

      Jacob Knighten ur clearly 7 years old if u don't remember how good Rondo was.

  • @keithbailey6268
    @keithbailey6268 Před 7 lety +399

    If I was Ray Allen I would have left as well, they mad cause he won a ring with miami, Boston management made it clear they didn't want him there by trying to keep trading him.

    • @Dom2k16
      @Dom2k16  Před 7 lety +38

      keith bailey True

    • @eltonvalmagtibay8682
      @eltonvalmagtibay8682 Před 6 lety

      same

    • @terrellhubbard
      @terrellhubbard Před 5 lety +1

      I agree

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Před 4 lety +7

      keith bailey no they were mad he abandoned them for a team that just beat them. The ring just made it worse.

    • @thegto8535
      @thegto8535 Před 4 lety +17

      @@oshura2506 so they are salty bitches ? miami is basically tax free, had an amazing team, and good weather, it was the perfect exit for his career after the celtics made quite clear he wasn't that important to them. if his so called "brothers" couldn't and still don't get that it's on them.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 Před 5 lety +63

    Ray Allen understood he was dealing with snakes and bounced on the Celtics.
    #goodnight

  • @allenrhea
    @allenrhea Před 7 lety +589

    It worked out for Ray Allen. He got another ring and was a huge contributor.

    • @Jacobean010
      @Jacobean010 Před 5 lety +22

      Allen Rhea saves lebron a career

    • @Tigerjuhhh
      @Tigerjuhhh Před 4 lety +9

      He made the most clutch on ive seen in NBA history outside of maybe Kawhi game 7 buzzer beater at the playoffs.

    • @albanmakolli8232
      @albanmakolli8232 Před 4 lety +7

      @@Tigerjuhhh ray's shot was in the finals so it was more clutch

    • @anthonywatley3036
      @anthonywatley3036 Před 4 lety +1

      Haters both pp n kg ray ray did what was best 4 him n his career at the time and Paul really tripping he couldn't hold dee wades jock strap let alone the king s ran him out of cle that s why kg went to net's with Paul right I guess shack ran kg out of Minnesota

    • @kamalattoh7125
      @kamalattoh7125 Před 4 lety

      @@anthonywatley3036 English my man, do you speak it?

  • @cstc1235
    @cstc1235 Před 7 lety +514

    Tbh Ray Allen is one of my favorite NBA players it's hard to call him a snake or a traitor

    • @MrDiMES123
      @MrDiMES123 Před 7 lety +28

      chandler st cloud st cloud chandler they snaked him tbh by trying to trade him

    • @BluWaves
      @BluWaves Před 7 lety +4

      chandler st cloud st cloud chandler not my favorite but I liked to see him play especially back when he was on the Supersonics with R. Lewis.

    • @hectorandem2944
      @hectorandem2944 Před 7 lety +39

      How _could_ he be a traitor - even hypothetically - if he's getting disrespected left right and centre?

    • @brandonamundt
      @brandonamundt Před 7 lety

      Hector Andem first he is a traitor and America is the best country so its spelled center

    • @shreyasinamdar9841
      @shreyasinamdar9841 Před 7 lety +2

      That's what people said about KD. Doesn't change the fact that he's a traitor, does it?

  • @yuch1102
    @yuch1102 Před 7 lety +266

    that's really childish of them...let by gone be by gones, they won a championship together, and Ray Allen was a huge piece of that, just because he made a decision based on his career does not mean he should just be left out celebrating what they did together. At the very least, invite him because he may decline anyways.

    • @jayyhype7909
      @jayyhype7909 Před 5 lety +5

      A year later and I'm the only that agrees to this 💯🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @hoteltrivago1380
      @hoteltrivago1380 Před 5 lety +3

      Although I do partially agree, you also have to consider that they created a very strong bond in Boston. They were together everyday and were just a family. They expected to be treated back as they were family. I feel though that there is something that none of them are telling us, cause it does seem a bit fishy

    • @javonsmith6791
      @javonsmith6791 Před 4 lety +9

      yuch1102 .What you guys need to understand is Ray also had a sick child and the best doctors for his child was in Miami but the fuck niggas won’t say that.

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 Před 4 lety

      LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 Před 4 lety

      LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going

  • @Artist21st
    @Artist21st Před 7 lety +122

    IMHO Ray Allen is a great player and person I met him when I lived in Milwaukee... he got out of his SUV to help me get unstuck from the snow..

    • @spyyadyc5229
      @spyyadyc5229 Před 5 lety +3

      Romero R r/thathappened

    • @Tigerjuhhh
      @Tigerjuhhh Před 5 lety +4

      wow thats awesome. Thats a down to earth person right there!

    • @sevenofcrows7
      @sevenofcrows7 Před 5 lety +4

      Milwaukee still loves ray Allen, Glen Robinson, and Sam Cassell

  • @MannyMensah94
    @MannyMensah94 Před 7 lety +188

    I can't believe this. I understand Kg and Paul were upset of Allen going to the Heat because he is playing for the enemy. also, allen had to right to leave and doesn't owe KG and Pierce anything. He did his job.

    • @terrellhubbard
      @terrellhubbard Před 5 lety +4

      I agree with you. He did his part

    • @shadyboy5090
      @shadyboy5090 Před 5 lety +2

      terrell hubbard No ray no ring and its different than KD cuz Ray was close to the end had bad ankles and Boston clearly didnt want him Miami needed him and they wouldnt have won without him he saved Lebrons career.

    • @greatomeister675
      @greatomeister675 Před 4 lety +1

      Shady Boy
      Without Rondo they wouldnt win 08

    • @parkerxjr
      @parkerxjr Před 4 lety +1

      @@greatomeister675 BIG 3. What has Rondo done since ? 3 people drawing double teams

  • @jayinthecutlikeperoxide
    @jayinthecutlikeperoxide Před 7 lety +1037

    No Ray No Ring

    • @umlbp
      @umlbp Před 7 lety +80

      Jaden Triolo True for Boston and Miami

    • @Jay_draco
      @Jay_draco Před 6 lety +2

      umlbp Miama has Ray Allen in 2014

    • @thegoldenhero
      @thegoldenhero Před 6 lety +10

      Rondo wasn't fucking important lol

    • @ronanlynch4126
      @ronanlynch4126 Před 6 lety +24

      thegoldenhero you probably didn’t watch the Celtics is 2008 then

    • @thegoldenhero
      @thegoldenhero Před 6 lety +12

      let's just say it wasn't no damn big 4 lol

  • @08crazytony
    @08crazytony Před 5 lety +36

    I personally enjoyed seeing the throwback 2005 SuperSonic 1-2 punch of Allen and Lewis getting their rings in Miami.

  • @mrsain19
    @mrsain19 Před 7 lety +55

    finally someone made a clip with the rational and TRUE reasoning. too many Celts fans refer to Ray as a traitor as if Ray was some long time Celtic. Ray was ran out of Boston and the seeds were planted very early, long before he actually did depart.
    What stings Boston fans the most is not only did he go to Miami. Not only did he win a chip in Miami. But his signature career moment happened in Miami.

    • @holidayeveryday550
      @holidayeveryday550 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm a Celtic fan and never had any bad feelings toward Ray. The celtics were an ageing team whose run was over. Also he wasn't all that wanted by management

  • @laxerifun
    @laxerifun Před 7 lety +207

    I think for me and a lot of people it wasn't the fact that kd left , it was more about where he went

    • @TimDaGoof
      @TimDaGoof Před 6 lety +10

      Should’ve went home to Washington with Beal and Wall, would’ve dominated the East

    • @nathaniellevesque2782
      @nathaniellevesque2782 Před 6 lety +2

      Had he went to say, the Spurs, there wouldn't be as much of a negative reaction. Some Thunder fans would be mad, but it would be nowhere near the level of hate he got for going to the Warriors.

    • @dennissmith9294
      @dennissmith9294 Před 4 lety

      If you disrespect a player by keep trying to trade him. Ray just moved on. I m not mad at him. Two Championship is the results

    • @robgregg2653
      @robgregg2653 Před 3 lety

      💯💯💯Truth be Told💯💯💯

    • @redx453
      @redx453 Před 2 lety +3

      I think it was because he joined a team that went 73-9. It was about the mentality of joining that team. Taking the easy path. It was unlike Lebron, Wade, and Bosh making a team or Ray, Truth, and KG. He could've gone anywhere not CLE or GSW. He could've formed a team with any star (Kawhi, PG, Beal and Wall etc.)

  • @Contestedshooter
    @Contestedshooter Před 7 lety +1036

    I hope Brian Scalabrine was invited

    • @cjbostonstrong8480
      @cjbostonstrong8480 Před 7 lety +77

      Leensanity2k He's still with the Celtics organization, of course he is.

    • @GTR24
      @GTR24 Před 7 lety +111

      WTF you mean? the 10 year anniversary cake is in the shape of Scal's face

    • @nikobellic1775
      @nikobellic1775 Před 7 lety +132

      Leensanity2k Brian is the party

    • @tzovlask
      @tzovlask Před 7 lety +140

      Brian Scalabrine is a one man big 3!!

    • @stonersimpson_
      @stonersimpson_ Před 7 lety +23

      GOAT Mcgee he didn't go though . the goat stays mutual

  • @Jayden-ej5nj
    @Jayden-ej5nj Před 7 lety +1608

    I still support ray Allen like if you do

    • @zioncartel
      @zioncartel Před 7 lety +25

      Dion J11000 fuck yeah sugar ray all the way all day

    • @JinjaOnHere
      @JinjaOnHere Před 6 lety +4

      One of the best SG of all time

    • @johnAG
      @johnAG Před 6 lety +8

      DJH 11000 you're a miami fan....

    • @supremedreamsproductionsti3600
      @supremedreamsproductionsti3600 Před 5 lety +5

      Always been a fan since he played at uconn. I lived right up the street from the uconn campus I would see him at parties all the time. Cool ass dude real down to earth.

    • @TheNBAFreak
      @TheNBAFreak Před 5 lety +5

      Nigga you're a Heat fan of course you're gonna say that 😂

  • @chouavue9056
    @chouavue9056 Před 7 lety +26

    This story just made his 3-point shot in the Final vs the Spur even that more meaningful.

  • @MelShibson
    @MelShibson Před 7 lety +59

    They were seriously gonna trade ya boy for OJ Mayo? Ultimate sign of disrespect.

  • @zacarias9497
    @zacarias9497 Před 7 lety +974

    At the end of it all, Ray Allen has 2 rings compared to Pierce's and KG's one.

    • @tiismuna
      @tiismuna Před 7 lety +110

      S6T6NS N6TION sealed it with a clutch 3

    • @dmillzmoney4369
      @dmillzmoney4369 Před 7 lety +20

      S6T6NS N6TION so what they still got rings

    • @mbaer5
      @mbaer5 Před 7 lety +60

      Dont sleep on Sam Cassell.. Hes got 3

    • @nicksol9721
      @nicksol9721 Před 7 lety +21

      They each would have 2 if Ray didnt go to the Heat 👀

    • @umlbp
      @umlbp Před 7 lety +66

      Nick Solomon maybe they shouldn't have tried to trade every season and make him take pay cuts and give him shitty contracts. in return for his loyalty they treated him like shit. Then he did what's good for him and he's disloyal. i understand pierce and garnetts beef but no one else should care.

  • @bryanttisdale2446
    @bryanttisdale2446 Před 6 lety +19

    Kevin Garnett said he wouldn't have gone to Celtics until he found out Ray Allen was also going. Then 2yrs later trying to trade him . Kg got hurt during the run he wasn't the same player either. They weren't treating him like that

    • @leemcb7297
      @leemcb7297 Před 4 lety +7

      The damn franchise is very disrespectful of players...and they even have the worst medical staff. Look at Bird, McHale's injury hell from the late 80s-early 90s -- you'll find everything from nails driven into feet to constant back surgeries. Disrespectful in that they benched great players and let politics run the show...how can a bum like Rondo act alpha when clearly his over-rated skills cannot match to Ray Allen's? So damn stupid this franchise is.

  • @mr.martin6243
    @mr.martin6243 Před 6 lety +109

    I'm on Ray's side, how you gonna be in every trade rumor since you've basically been on the team and then when you decide to leave now everybody's trippin saying "he left us, he left us" you CLEARLY didn't want him that bad anyways lol
    Bet money that if Boston would have beaten the Heat they would have said nothing, sore losing asses! lmao
    (Laker Fan BTW)

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Před 4 lety

      Mr. Martin Umm management didn’t want him doesn’t mean his teammates didn’t. They have every right to dislike him

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Před 4 lety

      bojo perez bruh do you not know how basketball works? Management screws over players and goes over their heads all the time

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Před 4 lety

      bojo perez bruh they got traded a few years later

    • @libatako
      @libatako Před 3 lety

      @@oshura2506 KG and Paul didn’t say shit about the whole trade thing while he was there....so his”teammates saying something”?....get that shit out of here

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful Před 7 lety +69

    Man Dom2k doing big things even as a Celtics fan... thats why I ain't mad bruh! keep it up #Dom2kGOAT

    • @EngravedAxe
      @EngravedAxe Před 7 lety +7

      Where were you last video. Didn't see any comment from you

  • @Kalinbuggs
    @Kalinbuggs Před 7 lety +696

    Without Ray Allen they don't win the Championship he should have got invited Idc if he left get over it

    • @ItsAnEndlessWorld
      @ItsAnEndlessWorld Před 7 lety +8

      KE TV Agreed.

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 Před 7 lety +27

      Celtics wouldn't have won the championship without a lot of guys that year. We really got out of the playoffs by the skin of our teeth. I'm not sure there is another championship team out there that won it all without winning a road game until Round 3. If we didn't have Sam Cassell and PJ Brown that year we probably wouldn't have even won. Rajon Rondo was a massive part of that team. The 2008 Celtics were an incredible team effort and it's sad that 10 years later everyone is being reduced to 'who individually was more importantant'

    • @Kalinbuggs
      @Kalinbuggs Před 7 lety +12

      TRJ2241987 bruh I feel you but Ray was the third leading shooter

    • @jahaire31
      @jahaire31 Před 7 lety +8

      TRJ2241987 True but Ray was hitting crazy daggers, I seen a lot of jealousy with Pierce and Ray......Pierce was one of my favorites until KG got there with fucked up mentality

    • @foghornfoggyface
      @foghornfoggyface Před 7 lety +7

      Easy to say that from the outside looking in. You're not a big man for loyalty it seems.

  • @than3500
    @than3500 Před 7 lety +147

    This is pretty classless since Ray Allen contributed more than Rondo and yet he's invited...

    • @dee4892
      @dee4892 Před 7 lety +13

      DeMar DeRozan Rondo is hosting it I think

    • @devvv4616
      @devvv4616 Před 7 lety +24

      for real. take ray allen out of that team and they wouldn't win it. he was having 50 pt games in the play offs!!

    • @timothy1949
      @timothy1949 Před 4 lety +7

      @@devvv4616 nah, 51 points was 2009 where KG was out. But in 2008 finals, ray allen averaged 20 points at 50% FG 52% 3 pt FG, 5 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals per game, best player on the court.

    • @theretrosavage
      @theretrosavage Před 3 lety

      Debatable

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 Před 3 lety

      If They Did The Same Thing To Kobe Kobe Would've Gone Nuts

  • @knicks2030
    @knicks2030 Před 4 lety +4

    After reading Ray's book everything you said was spot on and unbiased. Nice work and well researched since you made this video before the book came out!

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  • @fastfire9319
    @fastfire9319 Před 7 lety +810

    Ray Allen helped them win and they're backstabbing him

    • @ezra7723
      @ezra7723 Před 7 lety +52

      Except Ray Allen backstabbed them

    • @ezra7723
      @ezra7723 Před 7 lety +13

      I'm fine with the fact that he left he had ever right to leave its just who he left to that pisses me off

    • @amieriddles
      @amieriddles Před 7 lety +33

      Ezra77 his teammates ran him off, maybe if they didn't act like that he wouldn't have went to Miami lol

    • @lance7492
      @lance7492 Před 7 lety +11

      +Amie Riddles
      It wasn't his teammates, it was management.

    • @christopherk2841
      @christopherk2841 Před 7 lety +5

      ray was saying fuck you to boston

  • @AD-vf3ek
    @AD-vf3ek Před 4 lety +15

    I met Ray Allen too and he signed a basketball for me. He’s a nice guy.

  • @drc1981
    @drc1981 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video! I never knew some of these trade offers made for Ray Allen. Just goes to show a lot of things happen that most people don't know about that can explain some of the feelings.

  • @johnpange7158
    @johnpange7158 Před 7 lety +149

    Ray was no longer a star, he was just a solid role player filling a hole with the heat (perimeter shooter lul) and he filled it perfectly. Complete opposite with kd, being the 2nd best player in the nba losing (choking) a 3-1 lead to the best team and then joining them. Not even remotely close

    • @MrDiMES123
      @MrDiMES123 Před 7 lety +7

      John Pange ray could have easily averaged 19 ppg as a starter if he didn't go to the heat even at that age

    • @thebigredmonster8264
      @thebigredmonster8264 Před 7 lety +6

      Heso Melo Jello if you watched the video, the celtics didn't give ray allen the role that he wanted offensively. Out of the big three he shot the less shots so that combined with the role he had, he couldn't of averaged 19 points.

    • @lilluch3988
      @lilluch3988 Před 7 lety +1

      James Lanziao Lebronthe best player gtfo

    • @robertbaratheon4621
      @robertbaratheon4621 Před 7 lety +3

      John Pange you're kind of right but ray is a star. everyone wanted him when he left the heats.

    • @TimDaGoof
      @TimDaGoof Před 6 lety

      James Lanziao umm... so who was the first?

  • @Dom2k16
    @Dom2k16  Před 7 lety +523

    Rajon Rondo has confirmed that the Celtics are leaving Ray Allen out of their 10-year championship vacation this summer, which prompted me to want to tell the full story of how the rift started between Ray and the Celtics in the first place. It dates back quite a while, a lot further than when he left to Miami or even in 2012 which is what most of you probably think. The link to the stories I used are in the description. Like comment and sub if you enjoyed!
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    • @devmo03
      @devmo03 Před 7 lety +2

      Dom2k You should probably pin this comment since it is yours...

    • @dtrigs6795
      @dtrigs6795 Před 7 lety +6

      Dom2k ik this has nothing to do with video (by the way I enjoyed it) You should do a video about the 2009-2010 Lakers how they had a good squad with guys like Shannon Brown, Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, and the obvious ones and what went wrong with them just an idea

    • @MultiKillerface
      @MultiKillerface Před 7 lety +24

      jdzspace23 you sound like an upset celtics fan.
      If you gonna hate on Ray Allen, hate the celtics management. The managent didn't put 100% effort in Allen, So he didn't put 100% effort in the team. He already was the one who took the paycut. Took the least amount of shots. And then every single time his name got mentioned in trade rumors.
      "Turn his back on the team that made him a champion" wasn't Ray Allen a part of the big 3?

    • @jdzspace33
      @jdzspace33 Před 7 lety +1

      I am upset, because i really liked and respected Judas, and he then turned on everyone.
      and management offered him double the money and a no trade clause to make it right, but he didn't have the dignity and respect for the team/fans/teammates to answer the phone......not even make a phone call, just to answer the incoming calls that came.
      and then had the balls to do interviews saying he had no desire to leave Boston.......he's a unbelievably massive tool and deserves to be called out as such. He COULD have been a legendary Celtic, with his number in the rafters and his name a part of the most storied franchise in NBA history.
      but he decided to turn his back on everything and just be a soulless hired gun.......so he deserves no forgiveness from Boston, from the team, or the players. to hell with him

    • @MultiKillerface
      @MultiKillerface Před 7 lety +3

      "To make it right", but it was too late

  • @MrKennyonthecobz
    @MrKennyonthecobz Před 5 lety +24

    Can't blame Ray for anything he did. He still had greatness left in his tank and the Celtics didn't respect that.

  • @bentwilleager5011
    @bentwilleager5011 Před 7 lety +94

    Rays situation is more comparable to Dwyane Wades decision to leave the Heat

    • @skyseeker9735
      @skyseeker9735 Před 7 lety +7

      Ben Twilleager Wade did not join the team that beat him in the playoffs. It's not that ray allen left, it's the fact he went to the team that beat him.

    • @R2theawesomeJ
      @R2theawesomeJ Před 6 lety +18

      The "sign the contract if you really want to stay here" portion is extremely similar. They both got backstabbed by the front offices.

  • @aj_ono
    @aj_ono Před 7 lety +144

    Damn... the Celtics beat the Lakers 10 years ago. I'm getting old lol

    • @nonsoomezi2404
      @nonsoomezi2404 Před 6 lety +2

      I'm Alex I remember being a 4yr old watching the Celtics thrash the Lakers

    • @VictorELayne77
      @VictorELayne77 Před 6 lety +1

      BiasedRocketsFan 34 then you became 6 and watched the Lakers beat the Celtics in game 7.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 4 lety

      @@VictorELayne77 Yes, with KD injured and everyone aging.

    • @neanderthal599
      @neanderthal599 Před 4 lety

      Luka is overrated

  • @kennethbazilio9946
    @kennethbazilio9946 Před 7 lety +10

    Great didn't know all this, Truly a Celtics fan since the early 1960's. like you didn't like Ray going to Miami, but totally understand.

  • @BudIce32oz
    @BudIce32oz Před 7 lety

    I've been saying all this forever! Great vid. This needed light shed on it to put things in perspective

  • @mxndough
    @mxndough Před 7 lety

    Dom is literally the only youtuber I can watch the 10+ second intro every single video and still love it, lmao that beat is smackin. Plus homie got fire vids 😤👌

  • @GurveerChahal1
    @GurveerChahal1 Před 7 lety +458

    The difference is celtics weren't gonna win a championship kd choked when he was 1 game from beating the gsw

    • @rohangauris
      @rohangauris Před 7 lety +45

      Joseph Roth they were all past their prime and got unlucky with a garnett injury it definitely wasn't a disappointment

    • @MrDiMES123
      @MrDiMES123 Před 7 lety +14

      Joseph Roth ain't no disappointment they proved doubters wrong every year saying they getting older but injuries stole a 3 peat

    • @dylanmanuel1301
      @dylanmanuel1301 Před 7 lety +28

      gurveer chahal they just lost a 7 game series to Miami wtf

    • @roshananderson
      @roshananderson Před 7 lety +2

      gurveer chahal they where one game away from the finals twice, one of them games being on their home court?

    • @hectorandem2944
      @hectorandem2944 Před 7 lety +5

      Also, I doubt OKC treated KD like Boston disrespected Ray Allen.

  • @drizzydil944
    @drizzydil944 Před 7 lety +50

    Look how bad rondo got now since he doesn't have the big 3. He still can't shoot a jumper and barely free throws, the fact he is in the league still is surprising

    • @dechefmane3526
      @dechefmane3526 Před 7 lety +1

      Fururur 1 You know he did torn his ACL right

    • @drizzydil944
      @drizzydil944 Před 7 lety +1

      Eric Escibedi So a torn acl is gonna stop you from having a jumper

    • @dechefmane3526
      @dechefmane3526 Před 7 lety +3

      Fururur 1 Rondo was considered a top 5 PG in the league in his prime and helped kept the Celtics as title contenders when KG, Ray, and Pierre were all aging. He dropped 40+ points against the Heat big 3 in the playoffs. He could had won Finals MVP if the Celtics won it all in 2010. His challenges of injuries and his very high basketball I.Q ruined his career.

    • @drizzydil944
      @drizzydil944 Před 7 lety +2

      Eric Escibedi And westbrook has had injuries it's not stopping him

    • @drizzydil944
      @drizzydil944 Před 7 lety +1

      Eric Escibedi Just look when he went to the mavs he gave up on his teammates, the fact people are still signing him is surprising all he can do on offense is pass your basically playing 4v5 the entire time on offense

  • @thehighjedi5109
    @thehighjedi5109 Před 6 lety

    This is the first of your videos that I've seen and after watching the whole thing I'm definitely going to subscribe to your channel. You present your side of the story and facts in a very cool, calm, and collected way. You don't go to fast or let your emotions get the better of you and just present your video. I like that. You don't need to get all excited and start yelling and cussing and dropping F bombs everywhere. Thank you for that. Very enjoyable and I will be subscribing. You just earned another follower. Right on man!! 😎😎

  • @michaelwahle9977
    @michaelwahle9977 Před 7 lety

    Great video @Dom2K! Thoroughly enjoyed it as a diehard Celtics fan. I think Ray was still really happy in Boston up until about 2011, because even though he and Rondo didn't see eye to eye all the time, he did re-sign with us after the 2010 Finals, saying "it's pretty obvious I'd like to stay here." I think the final straw was when they almost shipped him to Memphis, and even though it's a business and that stuff happens, I understand why he was sore about it.

  • @samuelkeay6560
    @samuelkeay6560 Před 4 lety +5

    when you listen to ray talk about it it's difficult not to agree with him, the guy comes across so well

  • @indmslikedeez8005
    @indmslikedeez8005 Před 7 lety +52

    Wtf? How u gonna have a trip with the big 3 and not have ray Allen? Rondo u not even part of the 3 wit yo nut head boy

  • @LLPOF
    @LLPOF Před 4 lety +3

    Hey Dom, just dropping a note to let you know how much I like your vids.

  • @somethingfishy1233
    @somethingfishy1233 Před 4 lety

    Good video dom 🔥💯

  • @michaelgray1803
    @michaelgray1803 Před 6 lety +27

    When I leave a job I don't talk to my ex co workers

    • @jamesmarhen
      @jamesmarhen Před 4 lety +2

      But do they hate you and consider you a traitor? You don't know because you don't talk to them but I doubt it. They probably think you did what was best for you like adults.

    • @thomaslequesne5475
      @thomaslequesne5475 Před 4 lety

      But you didn't spend your life with them like athletes do, practicing together, having a friendship outside of your workplace...

    • @michaelgray1803
      @michaelgray1803 Před 4 lety +3

      @@thomaslequesne5475 right 12 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week yearlong no off season you tell me

    • @thomaslequesne5475
      @thomaslequesne5475 Před 4 lety

      @@michaelgray1803 I don't know where you work, but in most places you don't develop a great relationship with your co-workers outside of work. To be a successful basketball team, you need to know what the others will do and fully trust them to make the shot or the right decision in crucial moments. Also when a player gets traded he doesn't know the city nor anyone living there outside of his teammates and the staff.
      Again, where you worked may be different, but in most cases your work doesn't depend as much on the other's work, and their career decisions don't impact yours.

    • @michaelgray1803
      @michaelgray1803 Před 4 lety

      @@thomaslequesne5475 at work.

  • @Dre3010
    @Dre3010 Před 7 lety +111

    Ray Allen was 37 you cant compare it to prime durant

    • @jermaineonealnumber7
      @jermaineonealnumber7 Před 7 lety +19

      Ofcourse you can't, 1 of the greatest shooters of all-time and a future HOFer vs a regular season star.

    • @ayayayaxd2639
      @ayayayaxd2639 Před 6 lety +16

      jermaineonealnumber7 so KD ain't HOF before he went to the bay?C'mon y'all bias when it comes to that kinda shit

    • @laserdemonfrostmage8421
      @laserdemonfrostmage8421 Před 4 lety

      ThatBoiDre or to be prime curry

    • @targettoad691
      @targettoad691 Před 2 lety

      The only 37 year old that was still elite is MJ

  • @mcstrad10
    @mcstrad10 Před 6 lety

    Another good video man. I didn't know the details about this story at all.

  • @nss749
    @nss749 Před 4 lety

    One of doms best videos, I always come back to watch it every 6 months

  • @pranavmoudgalya6449
    @pranavmoudgalya6449 Před 7 lety +9

    Great video! Looking forward to your journey to the best sports commentator!

  • @waybronanthony3231
    @waybronanthony3231 Před 7 lety +315

    Obvious jealousy because Ray got that extra ring.. and his ring with Miami is more memorable because of the shot... Rondo ruins every team he is on.

    • @marquisdaniels9657
      @marquisdaniels9657 Před 7 lety +47

      jealousy? they hated him before he won another ring

    • @lubu2960
      @lubu2960 Před 7 lety +2

      Waybron Anthony meh..better be hated and famous than commeting in youtube

    • @triiii1303
      @triiii1303 Před 7 lety +1

      He had a bigger role on the celtics championship team tho right? Wouldn't that one mean more then

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 Před 7 lety +1

      Waybron Anthony yup

    • @TheRealtalk617
      @TheRealtalk617 Před 6 lety

      HIs ring in Boston was more memorable he was going at it with Kobe Bryant in a Celtic vs Laker rivalry.

  • @rogerdavis291
    @rogerdavis291 Před 7 lety

    Dude u are good at this great job

  • @damarcusgill5185
    @damarcusgill5185 Před 6 lety

    Luv to c a video where the narrator isn't biased and just call it how it is. Great video

  • @abdullahabdulhadi8544
    @abdullahabdulhadi8544 Před 7 lety +4

    Wow this video was amazing how he explained it without being biased towards his team

  • @elihernandez800
    @elihernandez800 Před 5 lety +5

    I'm a Celtics fan. I'm glad that we all take Ray Allens side on this. He was actually the only homegrown star on that team thru UConn (New England)

  • @mauryj9415
    @mauryj9415 Před 5 lety

    Mad vibes at the beginning🔥🔥

  • @Jmaug
    @Jmaug Před 6 lety

    Awesome video, very informative and it changes the way that I now see Ray (Benedict) Allen....

  • @N8veJay
    @N8veJay Před 7 lety +85

    Without Ray Allen, Ray Allen doesn't win his ring.

  • @llw53one
    @llw53one Před 4 lety +5

    The Celtics should have done better to keep Ray! They were disrespectful! I’m glad Ray was able to shine with The Heat and get a ring! I do hope the guys can work something out. Shaq and Koby are cool now these guys should work it out. The fact that Rondo questioned if he should invite Ray tells me that he knows Ray should be there! Thanks for sharing! Great visuals and commentary! Peace and Blessings to all!

  • @Matt-io8cx
    @Matt-io8cx Před 7 lety

    Great video. I grew up with this team and Rondo was my fav player (I was 6-8 so allow me) and it's fun to see the celtics rebound

  • @wholelottared6166
    @wholelottared6166 Před 7 lety

    True Shit bro... Great content.. :) keep it up bro... Really like this channel :D

  • @edmichaelalobog8886
    @edmichaelalobog8886 Před 7 lety +130

    G.O.A.T. of Basketball CZcamsrs
    #1 - Dom2k
    #2 - Mike Korzemba
    #3 - SDC

    • @therealflamelit
      @therealflamelit Před 7 lety +7

      Ximo pierto

    • @michaelcarter-williamsisth6518
      @michaelcarter-williamsisth6518 Před 6 lety +3

      Hold This L. Debarge L

    • @Kiddingyoumust
      @Kiddingyoumust Před 6 lety +14

      Mike Morzemba is trash. I remember him having a video called "5 reasons why Jordan is God" or something like that. One of the reason was because Jordan said he would dunk on some player, and he did so.
      MDJ > Mike Morzemba

    • @InstaKilla360
      @InstaKilla360 Před 6 lety +2

      I agree I would put MDJ in there too

    • @patricesims7476
      @patricesims7476 Před 6 lety

      Mikaél Rence yeah i watch them

  • @FoxSports1340AM
    @FoxSports1340AM Před 7 lety +23

    The NBA is a business but the Celtics could have handled that better.

  • @tallytaliano
    @tallytaliano Před 6 lety

    Just subscribed! Great video

  • @Therealzay4life
    @Therealzay4life Před 6 lety

    Thank you! Finally another celtics fan who actually understands The Whole situation! You explained it great too.

  • @raylynch7412
    @raylynch7412 Před 4 lety +6

    Ray Allen carried that Team. 1st Championship Run
    He Deserves that Finals MVP!

  • @cantguard26
    @cantguard26 Před 7 lety +13

    Rondo's personality doesn't mix well anywhere you need a strong coaching staff to be successful with him.

  • @DieNetaDie
    @DieNetaDie Před 6 lety +1

    this clip made me subscribe

  • @keithymg
    @keithymg Před 7 lety +2

    Good video man

  • @ohmyassoff1087
    @ohmyassoff1087 Před 7 lety +66

    I can see it from both sides. For the celtics and the fans, obviously it hurts seeing a player go to a rival team, especially the two teams that probably had the most fierce one at the time. But at the same time, Allen was getting pushed out by the management and Rondo. I mean look where Rondo is now, he had no authority. Plus Ray was on the tail end of his career. It'd be like someone like Iggy going to Cleveland

    • @TheKazu42
      @TheKazu42 Před 7 lety +1

      Y'all are trippin or someone like Andrew Bogut.

    • @bmcguire175
      @bmcguire175 Před 7 lety

      Numbr81 exactly lol

    • @AbagailFisherGodLuvsMe
      @AbagailFisherGodLuvsMe Před 7 lety +1

      It's not like he joined the lakers....

    • @therealflamelit
      @therealflamelit Před 7 lety +2

      "like Iggy going to Cleveland..." pretty Much Richard Jefferson

    • @ohmyassoff1087
      @ohmyassoff1087 Před 7 lety +1

      Cleveland and GS weren't rivals when RJ was on the Warriors

  • @TELEthruVOXx
    @TELEthruVOXx Před 7 lety +2

    This is s damn good channel.

  • @goshenfilms
    @goshenfilms Před 7 lety

    TOTALLY agree with this analysis.

  • @TheDeMIlz
    @TheDeMIlz Před 6 lety +1

    good to know rondo still appreciates his time in Boston, one of my favorite teams of all time, glad I went to HS when that team was around

  • @DubleKrossXDSSD
    @DubleKrossXDSSD Před 7 lety +173

    lmao, Rondo is acting like he was part of the big 3 😂😂 Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and The Truth Pierce. That there is the real big three! hold this L rondo. get off your high horse and show some respect

    • @amieriddles
      @amieriddles Před 7 lety +28

      Phi Tang Rondo was good af

    • @DubleKrossXDSSD
      @DubleKrossXDSSD Před 7 lety +2

      Amie Riddles yeah I he was but his attitude did not justify his performance

    • @amieriddles
      @amieriddles Před 7 lety +5

      *****​ Ikr if the dude wasnt such a hothead he could be a PG on a championship team again

    • @DubleKrossXDSSD
      @DubleKrossXDSSD Před 7 lety

      Yes I can definitely agree with you on that!

    • @MrDiMES123
      @MrDiMES123 Před 7 lety +8

      Phi Tang rondo was big 4 in 2011

  • @nbatalk6103
    @nbatalk6103 Před 7 lety +70

    Ray Allen helped them win and there backstabbing him

  • @kensheebattousai
    @kensheebattousai Před 7 lety

    I am on the same page as you man, went through all the same phases. But RAy was my favourite player in the NBA since he came in the NBA, along with Iverson, so i got over it after 1 or 2 seasons. But it took time. And I never really love the Heat. It hurt a lot though cuz I had never supported a franchise like the BIG 3 '08 celtics (i'm from France btw) so it hurt to see them break up, but i'd heard several times about the trades and trade rumors so I understand Ray. Plus the man isn't social, he has slight OCD so the fact he didn't interact as much off the court with teammates wasn't news to anyone in the NBA and not personal to C's. He was the same everywhere. Would love to see Ray on the Area 21 someday. Would be an epic moment.

  • @Aardvark3154
    @Aardvark3154 Před 7 lety

    thank god for you spreading awareness.

  • @roboninja3194
    @roboninja3194 Před 5 lety +4

    Remember the celtics tried trading ray multiple times. KG/rondo never criticize the celtics front office for this. They only go after ray. And somehow rondo/KG believe they had the right to tell ray allen which team he could sign with, which is beyond ridiculous. Ray took less money, they tried to trade em multiple times, then cut him out of the offense, but it's all his fault right? And a reunion tour for a team that won 1 ring? Please. Garnett was behind the entire don't invite ray thing, rondo was only the mouthpiece.

  • @drew5834
    @drew5834 Před 4 lety +7

    8:29 everyone is clapping for Ray Allen except Paul...

  • @domwilsonchannel
    @domwilsonchannel Před 7 lety

    I'll put Dom2k videos on in the background to listen to while I'm studying. But they're so engaging that I always end up watching them and neglecting my study...

  • @domais68
    @domais68 Před 7 lety +1

    Great clip, as usual, "Dom 2k!" It's ironic that KG, Perkins, Rondo, Davis, Pierce and Doc just discussed the Ray Allen rift in "Area 21" a few days ago. If I was fortunate enough to be in the Celtics' club, or NBA family, I wouldn't publicly discuss any dirty laundry. This whole issue could have been handled with less drama and more professionalism. Airing the matter on national TV serves no good purpose and just adds to strain and hurt feelings. Keep up the videos.

  • @renzupsop
    @renzupsop Před 4 lety +10

    8:32 Pierce’s jealous. Lol

  • @zj989
    @zj989 Před 7 lety +321

    Ray allen hands down best shooter 🔫🔫🔫

    • @notjazz.
      @notjazz. Před 7 lety +34

      zach j curry

    • @jym4712
      @jym4712 Před 7 lety +7

      +jazz lawson would take ray over curry, he abit better in my opinion

    • @ccannon1258
      @ccannon1258 Před 7 lety

      how? why?

    • @1vaultdweller
      @1vaultdweller Před 7 lety +14

      This is a disgrace to Scalabrine

    • @cousin_ryan
      @cousin_ryan Před 7 lety +26

      zach j I'm a Cavs fan but, come on man, the greatest shooter ever is Steph and it's not even close.

  • @earthchild04
    @earthchild04 Před 7 lety +1

    S/O DOM2K! The video was thorough and answered afew questions I had about the Big Three. IMO Celtics Brass didn't have to include Ray Allen in a package deal with Rajon Rondo to be traded to another team. Rondo was the problem and to avoid paying Allen Celtics Management tried to get rid of him as well. The way I see it, Ray Allen was mistreated and he took matters into his own hands. If I was in his position I would've walked the same way. If Paul Pierce was really concerned about his teammate leaving he could've talked to management in the organization. Truthfully,I think Kevin Garnett was salty because of how Allen left. Eiher way Ray Allen is an NBA World Champion with Boston and Miami.

  • @1donmegaa
    @1donmegaa Před 7 lety

    well said Dom i agree

  • @charliemartinez4786
    @charliemartinez4786 Před 4 lety +10

    When I heard the beef between Rondo and Allen, I sticked to Allen. After all, can't turn ur back on jesus...😎
    Allen 2
    Rondo 1

    • @KP-zh5dw
      @KP-zh5dw Před 3 lety

      Rondo might get one this year

  • @ranvirthandi7335
    @ranvirthandi7335 Před 7 lety +22

    rondo's just mad cuz ray has double his rings

    • @DoahandDucepodcast
      @DoahandDucepodcast Před 7 lety +1

      Ranvir Thandi check out my nba podcast

    • @ghostrider1827
      @ghostrider1827 Před 4 lety

      If everything goes well for the Lakers this season, "Dough" will have his ring with LeBron too!!

    • @mrsky67
      @mrsky67 Před 4 lety

      @@ghostrider1827 2 Players doesnt mean an automatic championship.

    • @KP-zh5dw
      @KP-zh5dw Před 3 lety +1

      Rondo might catch up to him this year

  • @arthurmello355
    @arthurmello355 Před 5 lety

    Big Celtic fan, even when there not winning. Ray you aiding in the huge turn around and definitively aided in the banner. I was a big Ray Allen fan every where you went. I always was hoping you come to play for the Celtics, and was sad to see you go. I do understand the business end and it sucks. Still a big fan and Congrats to the Hall of Fame!

  • @emancify
    @emancify Před 7 lety +1

    Dom2K - thanks for this video. I never quite understood the background of Ray Allen's move to the Free Agency/Heat until now.
    If you look at this as a business, I do not blame Allen for leaving for the Heat. I thought (immediately) that this would stretch defenses and open up the Heat's offense. The mere threat of Ray Allen left alone for a "set-up three" is frightening enough.
    I don't know why Pierce and Garnett can't understand. The latter left Minnesota to become a champion w/Pierce in Boston. R.R. was deceptively effective as a Point Guard, and; Ray Allen was actually the missing link (stretching the defense).
    Good work product Dom. Namaste.

  • @nuklatskahurtarnimu6608
    @nuklatskahurtarnimu6608 Před 7 lety +59

    Son pls make a video on the forgotten stars of the 80's the legends banished into irrelevance but the celtics,lakers,and bad boys the stars like Bernard king,Alex English,and Sidney moncrief need to be talked about their stories need to be told

    • @filmsbyhen
      @filmsbyhen Před 7 lety +5

      nuklatska hurtarnimu litterally had no idea until sidney moncreif was until i saw him in 2k

    • @afrofree4950
      @afrofree4950 Před 7 lety

      nuklatska hurtarnimu I know Bernard and Alex. Who is Sidney?

    • @rashad2384
      @rashad2384 Před 7 lety

      The Average LeBron Fan you're using the internet look him up dumb shit.

    • @Teece007
      @Teece007 Před 7 lety +3

      The Average LeBron Fan he's a SG that used to play for the Milwaukee Bucks. He's often considered one of the best perimeter defenders of all time

    • @o3_o3_28
      @o3_o3_28 Před 7 lety +1

      +The Average LeBron Fan nothing, just a two-time DPOY

  • @drewskibabyyy2539
    @drewskibabyyy2539 Před 7 lety +11

    "Wassup NBA fans, Dom2k on the mic" I get excited every time he does his introduction lol

  • @JonoEMz
    @JonoEMz Před 7 lety

    I'm a Celtics fan as well and After watching this video... Good on him for leaving! 👏🏼👌🏼

  • @juicyjay8642
    @juicyjay8642 Před 7 lety

    First of all, great video! Me personally I always felt like Rondo resented the fact that he always considered the "other guy" on the team during that period, but Rondo should understand that there's a reason for that! KG, PP and Ray were first ballot hall of famers even then, Rondo may never even sniff the hall of fame!

  • @ejfreeman7
    @ejfreeman7 Před 7 lety +26

    LeBron better get the 2012 Heat 5 year anniversary now

    • @duncansiror5033
      @duncansiror5033 Před 7 lety

      The Human Durag Flap #STEELERSSUPERBOWL51CHAMPS lol

    • @mrsain19
      @mrsain19 Před 7 lety +4

      shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.

    •  Před 5 lety +1

      @@mrsain19 doesnt lebron live in california now?

    • @mrsain19
      @mrsain19 Před 5 lety +3

      @ by point is the rest of the 2012 team is still in the south Florida area. The only one that isnt, is lebron.

  • @donaldferrell5947
    @donaldferrell5947 Před 7 lety +3

    He should be able to go on that trip it is bullocks that he is not going on that trip they should grow up . They won a title together they are lucky to have won one

  • @elibelly9373
    @elibelly9373 Před 7 lety

    Great video!!!!$

  • @billmichalis8943
    @billmichalis8943 Před 7 lety +2

    Ray Allen left a declining big-3 in Boston, while he was declining in order to be a role player on a superteam
    KD left a prime OKC, while he was in his prime, to join a "superteam" and form a big-4 with the team that narrowly beat him and he was so close to beating them, he had 3 chances to get 1 win and he just left them.

  • @slimsolo1384
    @slimsolo1384 Před 4 lety +4

    Rondo cant be talking when he is playing with Lebron James on the Lakers.

    • @ponyboyy34_32
      @ponyboyy34_32 Před 3 lety

      Fuck rondo, he went to a rival team ! Not Ray

  • @jebronlames3947
    @jebronlames3947 Před 5 lety +4

    8:51 the way pierce looks at allen tho

    • @Michael-vf8sy
      @Michael-vf8sy Před 3 lety

      I peeped that, looks like a hater honestly

  • @byrronmobley1602
    @byrronmobley1602 Před 5 lety +2

    Stumbled upon this video and it's great. Just wonder what exactly happened between Rondo and Celtics management that made them want to trade him in a package a couple of times.

    • @chillshitboyy2856
      @chillshitboyy2856 Před 5 lety

      Probably the same thing that happens with him and any management. The guy is uncoachable

  • @keniacobacci1873
    @keniacobacci1873 Před 7 lety

    pretty good video