The myth that Lebron James deserved MVP over Derrick Rose in 2011

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    The 2011 season happened ages ago, and there are still people that can't deal with the fact Rose won MVP over James. Today I show why even if you think Lebron deserved MVP, that there is no way you can discredit Rose for winning it. He did more than people realized, or choose to remember.
    Big thanks to these articles for helping me with the argument:
    www.basketballforever.com/2016...
    bleacherreport.com/articles/68...
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  • @Dom2k16
    @Dom2k16  Před 7 lety +256

    One thing I wish I would've said in the vid: Dwight Howard placed second over Lebron in MVP voting, and there's definitely no way that should've happened. Lebron's season was better and the Heat won more so yes the voters may have cut him short there, but there is still no way you can discredit Rose's case for the clear cut MVP over both of them in 2011 with everything else described.
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    • @mi5tundefeated.613
      @mi5tundefeated.613 Před 7 lety +3

      Dom2k do a vid about curry and Ray Allen compared

    • @AAA-yh7zh
      @AAA-yh7zh Před 7 lety +8

      Dom2k you did mention that Dwight was 2nd in mvp voting.

    • @kdottfinesse
      @kdottfinesse Před 7 lety +2

      bill played against 5'9 white boys refute this please

    • @theofficialphil
      @theofficialphil Před 7 lety +1

      Dom2k he did not get same amount of hate as KD this year he got more but other then that great video

    • @derrickjrlavar9668
      @derrickjrlavar9668 Před 7 lety +1

      Dom2k can you do the 3-5 LeBron

  • @kaimehra9802
    @kaimehra9802 Před 7 lety +1818

    DRose is so unlucky. He could have been one of the best players in the NBA without injuries.

    • @vulcaniso1943
      @vulcaniso1943 Před 7 lety +15

      Kai Mehra fr

    • @zumzici1234
      @zumzici1234 Před 7 lety +122

      No doubt, he was a beast, he had the handles, the speed, the athleticism AND incredible touch around the rim. With some time to develop his shot he could have become a legend, and one of the most exciting players to watch.ever.

    • @NNOutBurger_Gaming
      @NNOutBurger_Gaming Před 7 lety +42

      Kai Mehra he would have been better then Jordan

    • @Music-mi5gg
      @Music-mi5gg Před 7 lety +50

      Kai Mehra yup at least we got Westbrook though and the rookie Dennis Smith Jr is looking like the second coming of Rose. I still shed a tear whenever I watch old Rose highlights though 😭

    • @lilprincekilla
      @lilprincekilla Před 7 lety +13

      Stop over rating him and overhyping. He was no where near the best, despite injuries. He was another potential Penny Hardaway. Why do I say Penny, because he was also plagued with injuries rivaling Jordan, and also BETTER than Rose.

  • @walterzhao5191
    @walterzhao5191 Před 7 lety +1048

    If he can make 2 straight free throws for u to live, r u alive?
    0-Lavar ball
    1-Steph curry
    2- Steve Nash
    3- Dwight Howard
    4- LeBron James
    5- deandre Jordan
    6- Michael Jordan
    7- kyrie irving
    8- Andre Drummond
    9- Shaq

  • @Joshbecky
    @Joshbecky Před 7 lety +538

    who takes game winning shot from full court to save your life?
    1.Jae crowder
    2.Lavar
    3.Curry
    4.Andre Drummond
    5.Lou Williams
    6.Kobe
    7.Kevin Love
    8.Lebron
    9.Giannis Antetokounmpo
    0.Your least athletic family member

    • @kaikawasumi
      @kaikawasumi Před 7 lety +6

      Curry first then LeBron. We've seen both of them make deep shots and make it seem easy. I feel like Kevin Love could make it because of his deep passing ability, but not confident on that.

    • @drgfromnyc
      @drgfromnyc Před 7 lety +27

      Pin Head Larry Definitely Drummond. Drummond is a god from half-court and beyond.

    • @marctorres2900
      @marctorres2900 Před 7 lety

      9

    • @udonwarrior9983
      @udonwarrior9983 Před 7 lety +8

      Lavar

    • @MrTNTdestruction
      @MrTNTdestruction Před 7 lety +2

      Kevin Love.

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful Před 7 lety +316

    well I did
    but what rose did to take a 1st seed team to the ECF in 3 years is simply *remarkable*. Always remember where your from and the hard work you put in. We most likely will never get him to be this explosive anymore, but at least, we witnessed greatness as the youngest MVP to ever grace the nba floor. #DRose 🌹

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 Před 7 lety +28

      He could've been one of the greatest Point Guards in history. Just thinking about what he did at the age of 22 is crazy and what he could've became.

    • @RoseCurry5
      @RoseCurry5 Před 7 lety

      😢

    • @maumondragon2309
      @maumondragon2309 Před 7 lety +2

      He could be at least top 15 player of all time

    • @christianjayydio4472
      @christianjayydio4472 Před 7 lety

      Mau Mondragón l

    • @brutusmcklemore2630
      @brutusmcklemore2630 Před 4 lety

      Also the 1 seed hawks few years ago

  • @VladimirElliot
    @VladimirElliot Před 7 lety +509

    Foul💀💀 "DWade before his knees expired"

    • @fleewayricky
      @fleewayricky Před 7 lety +6

      Abdullahi Ahmed lmaoooo

    • @FoxyChariot
      @FoxyChariot Před 6 lety +12

      He said before the grim reaper took d will's career too

    • @danelisterine809
      @danelisterine809 Před 5 lety

      Just facts, this video is just facts the comments the commentary just plain bars

    • @ousmanceesay1784
      @ousmanceesay1784 Před 3 lety

      I was dying at that part😂😂

  • @Nihilitty
    @Nihilitty Před 7 lety +1258

    Dom, were still waiting for the Brian Scalabrine case for GOAT . you think we just gonna forget huh?

    • @richym3899
      @richym3899 Před 7 lety +75

      Case implies it's arguable. It's not (as in Scalabrine is the undisputed GOAT lol)

    • @asuforlife1702
      @asuforlife1702 Před 7 lety +99

      Richy M dont ever disrespect brian scalabrine like that again

    • @kalee6
      @kalee6 Před 7 lety +31

      ASUforLife shut up. Kawme is the goat.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse Před 7 lety +2

      Nihility White Manba FTW!

    • @sekkebronzazza7736
      @sekkebronzazza7736 Před 7 lety +17

      Yall underating Kwame Brown 😒

  • @amaanrak1158
    @amaanrak1158 Před 7 lety +866

    drose wouldve been one of the best pointguards ever

    • @johonanandrewgomes7593
      @johonanandrewgomes7593 Před 7 lety +52

      Amaan Rakhangi would have been the best

    • @nickcoleman9301
      @nickcoleman9301 Před 7 lety +23

      Johonan andrew gomes L

    • @kevo6463
      @kevo6463 Před 7 lety +1

      um how old are you ?

    • @nicholasvargas3406
      @nicholasvargas3406 Před 7 lety

      Amaan Rakhangi he is

    • @tmcdonald2374
      @tmcdonald2374 Před 7 lety +36

      I'm a LBJ fan and yes, he was considered the next MJ of Chicago. Hometown kid and fan favourite. D.Rose would attack the rim better and more vicious than any PG at the time

  • @jaykelz1528
    @jaykelz1528 Před 7 lety +336

    D Rose,
    The greatest "what if" player in history.
    Still my fav player forever.

    • @KingFateless13
      @KingFateless13 Před 7 lety +3

      Jay Kelz hopefully he does well in Cleveland with LeBron. If anyone can resurrect a career, it's LeBron

    • @jaykelz1528
      @jaykelz1528 Před 7 lety +2

      Jay D That's what I'm waiting for!

    • @RumbleFighterSolid
      @RumbleFighterSolid Před 6 lety +3

      Lmao more like Lechoke got him traded

    • @theroseexperience
      @theroseexperience Před 6 lety +7

      Not sure about history. Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway likely join him in the top 3 though.

    • @austinbridges7928
      @austinbridges7928 Před 5 lety +1

      We just gonna forget Len Bias?

  • @legendaryfizz4883
    @legendaryfizz4883 Před 7 lety +263

    Damn son. Started tearing up watching this video. I love Derrick Rose man. People forget so much that this man was the goods. I really wish Thibbs would've just sat him at the end of that Philly game.

    • @chicagobullsfan03
      @chicagobullsfan03 Před 7 lety +9

      james durant thibs has nothing to do with his injury. Rose was headed for a major injury. it just came at a bad time, he missed almost half of the lockout season, his knees had an expiration date

    • @legendaryfizz4883
      @legendaryfizz4883 Před 7 lety +30

      chicagobullsfan03 Not exactly. If Rose doesn't get injured the first time. There's a good chance he doesn't get injured the other times. And there's NO WAY he gets injured if he's not in the game when they're up by 9 or 12 with 1:30 left in the 4th. So there is reason to believe Thibbs played a role.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse Před 7 lety +17

      james durant I'm a Philly guy and I agree. With a healthy Rose, we'd probably have lost that series, but so what? I'd rather have a healthy Rose playing now.

    • @chicagobullsfan03
      @chicagobullsfan03 Před 7 lety

      james durant stop blaming thibs. Rose missed 40% of the season that year, his time was coming.

    • @jmoney8654
      @jmoney8654 Před 7 lety +1

      james durant trust the process

  • @brandonreed3670
    @brandonreed3670 Před 7 lety +291

    Bron was the better player, Rose was way more valuable to his team. Boozer & Noah missed over 60 games combined and Rose still got the Bulls to the 1 seed.

    • @tpsam
      @tpsam Před 7 lety +43

      Brandon Reed only people who don't get this are the ones who didn't watch the games during that season! drose was insanely on an other level

    • @brandonreed3670
      @brandonreed3670 Před 7 lety +28

      Yeah and it's not even like Bron was that much better stat wise that year, he and Wade basically cancelled each other out. That Bulls team had no business getting the 1 seed with 2 of their 4 best players missing that many games. Noah only played 49 games.

    • @connorsmith6517
      @connorsmith6517 Před 6 lety +12

      Brandon Reed ok I agree rose should of been MVP. But Lebron averaged 27/7/7/1/1 on 51% from the field and 33% from 3 while playing all NBA defense. Rose averaged 25/4/8/1/1 on 44% from the field and 33% from 3. Id say the stats lean in Lebrons favor and Lebron was still the best player in the world. But I'm fine with rose getting MVP

    • @mcoeif
      @mcoeif Před 6 lety +1

      Al Bundy F.B.Z. z Tom Thibodeau was the real MVP of that team. Without Thibs, those early 2010's Bulls weren't even playoffs worthy talent wise. LeBron could take any coach or any supporting cast to at least the second round of the playoffs.

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 6 lety +6

      D wade in 2009 deserved an mvp too than...30.4 PER 2nd in the nba.....he was avg 30.4 points per game in 38 minutes played 79 games was scoring champ scored by far almost 35o more points than anyone that year... 7.5 assists which was top 8 per game and he was 8th in total assists by the end of the year... 2.2 steals which was top 2 per game and total...and he avg 1.3 blocks ...which was 16th in per game and he was 16th in total shot blocks for the year...let me say that again.....a 6'3 215 lb shooting guard was the 16th best shot.blocker when the 15 guys ahead of him were all big centers who were at least 6'9 230 ....and he was 6 blocks away from being top 13....and the 19 guys behind him in the top 35 were all pf and centers who were also at least 6'9 ......he was the only guard in the top 50....to be top 7 in assists the other guys are all point guards ahead of him aka their job and besides LeBron were all point guards naturally cause they playnake and have ball in their hands in the top 20 and to be 2nd in steals when the other top 6 are point guards and usually is them and 1st in points is great and expected of him but top 16 in blocks is insane... shot 49% fg 77% ft 32% from 3 which for him was amazing cause he used to rareley take or make them but this season he was shooting them with confidence as if he's always done that .....have you ever seen a player be top 16 in blocks points assists steals and lewd all guards in rebounds......me neither..mvp case...he won 48 games after being out and the team winning 15 and losing shaq ...33 win increase...give him kobes roster he would have won 73 with them . ..why was he third in mvp

  • @itstaemonson
    @itstaemonson Před 7 lety +130

    D-Rose was god That season he took a crazy step forward in terms of his skill. and he was always great. He just wasn't quite a super star before the 2010-2011 season. and it was just more fun to watch D-Rose than any other star that season.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M Před 5 lety +1

      Exactly he was improving every aspect of his game especially his shooting. At 21 and 22 years old D Rose was making vets and other all Stars look silly when they played defense on him .Even the players who were contending for and had heights up to seven feet couldn't lock down D Rose. In my opinion he was enjoying to watch Because he played the game at 100% every play and a majority of his shots were acrobatic which amazed everyone.

  • @callumsharpe8215
    @callumsharpe8215 Před 7 lety +320

    This hurts as a bulls fan so fucking much 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse Před 7 lety +8

      callum sharpe I blame Thibs, man. I would've picked LeBron over Rose but what I'd really love is to have a healthy Rose playing today.

    • @callumsharpe8215
      @callumsharpe8215 Před 7 lety +3

      Graham Strouse, even not on the bulls man, I hate LeBron but u know man if we had LeBron and he was healthy still unlike rose I'd happily take LeBron tbh lol

    • @aliounendiaye3482
      @aliounendiaye3482 Před 7 lety +1

      callum sharpe YOOO CALLUM ITS WALLWAY

    • @callumsharpe8215
      @callumsharpe8215 Před 7 lety +1

      Alioune Ndiaye can't believe thats I never know I had that many likes, and also hey wallway how unlikely

    • @aliounendiaye3482
      @aliounendiaye3482 Před 7 lety +2

      callum sharpe yea lol

  • @SuperKool500
    @SuperKool500 Před 7 lety +879

    I agree, Rose was more *valuable.*

    • @RackedupYe300
      @RackedupYe300 Před 7 lety +73

      Bill Cosby nigga what 😂😂😂💀💀💀 lebron would've done the same thing

    • @zumzici1234
      @zumzici1234 Před 7 lety +8

      I love Curry, but damn this is so true. So far Curry hasn't really proven himself in clutch situations leading the team to wins on his shoulders alone.

    • @geekmuscle657
      @geekmuscle657 Před 7 lety +4

      TheHolyDream LeBron played two terrible team's in the 07 playoffs and was on a top 5 defensive team as well

    • @FugieGamers
      @FugieGamers Před 7 lety +12

      Bron is like the most valuable player all time lmao shut up

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse Před 7 lety +4

      Bill Cosby Seriously? I dunno. Maybe you just sipped the drink you usually give the girls, Bill Cosby...

  • @Bluelemonzz
    @Bluelemonzz Před 7 lety +29

    Great video. As a Miami Heat fan, I remember the year Rose got the MVP. He was such a scary player. Always finding a way to drive to the basket, going around any player for his shots. He was just so dominant. I think with Lebron, he's been amazing from the very beginning, that we just expect greatness and more from him every season. Rose stuck out as the MVP for all the reasons you mentioned.. that his team wasn't that great, but achieved the best record above the Heat. If it wasn't for his injuries, man who knows what could've happened the next few years with the Bulls.

  • @TheCrazyyGamer
    @TheCrazyyGamer Před 7 lety +179

    Smh too many young fans in this comments. That probably didn't see neither MVP rose or young heat lebron

    • @Jboooog18
      @Jboooog18 Před 7 lety +3

      Wayne he had a GREAT case

    • @dxp96
      @dxp96 Před 7 lety +9

      If MVP Rose and Olympic Melo cameback the knicks would be unstoppable..

    • @lilhugh4726
      @lilhugh4726 Před 7 lety

      AlekseyAksenov I'm 13 and I missed only a game of that season when I was 6

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo Před 6 lety +2

      His argument is basically "he did less with less". Very very thin. MVP goes to the player who had the best regular season and that was Dwight. Rose had an amazing season but he won because he was the media child, simple as that.

    • @thecelestialknights
      @thecelestialknights Před 6 lety +5

      WavesDontDie so taking a .500 team to a 60 win 1st seed in the east over miami, and noah and boozer basically hurt half the season isnt deserving of the mvp?

  • @bowskee
    @bowskee Před 7 lety +85

    some people gotta know that LeBron already won 2 MVPs before '11 and that he was the most hated player at his time while the Bulls aged 22 carried the Bulls to a 62-20 season. It's like a storyline

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas Před 7 lety +10

      Junky Munky stop it

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH Před 7 lety +38

      Eddie Thomas what do you mean 'stop it' it absolutely is a story. The guy from Chicago leading them to the number 1 seed while beating Lebron, the bad guy. It's absolutely a story..

    • @asmith4549
      @asmith4549 Před 5 lety +1

      @@PRIDEATH And the story ends with the heat destroying the bulls in the East finals lol

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 Před 5 lety +2

      Austin Smith when lebron had by far the superior team

    • @X02Overdose
      @X02Overdose Před 5 lety +4

      Austin Smith And proceeded to get embarrassed by Jason Terry

  • @donsolos
    @donsolos Před 7 lety +22

    "Why can't I be MVP?" D rose.
    you remember when he said that before that season?!?! INCREDIBLE!, this season really was magical from D rose. and all the more so that he was never able to replicate it
    I also remember reading Pat Rileys article midseason about D Rose deserving the MVP at that point and then the snowball effect that article created into the MVP
    i forgot about all the injuries, hard to remember anything other than how hard rose balled
    LOVED THE ENDING!

  • @andremej6305
    @andremej6305 Před 7 lety +54

    man d rose had crazy athletism but those landings were knee suicide man but just watching highlights hurts as a bulls fan

    • @twoface9959
      @twoface9959 Před 6 lety +1

      Andre Mej If only the Bulls never signed Boozer, and let Gibson develop instead, as well Butler developing a bit earlier. Rose couldn't carry it by himself.

  • @surgeJ
    @surgeJ Před 7 lety +34

    "Dwayne Wade before his knees expired" LOOOL

  • @scrub2789
    @scrub2789 Před 7 lety +88

    Don't forget the Bulls had Brian Scalabrine

  • @DibbyDibbyDog
    @DibbyDibbyDog Před 7 lety +318

    Lebron couldn't let those 5 arrows fly... oh wait wrong vid

  • @tangaraspeedgoda7436
    @tangaraspeedgoda7436 Před 4 lety +6

    The reality is Lebron shouldn't even have been second in that MVP race.

  • @Ghostface2point0
    @Ghostface2point0 Před 7 lety +14

    13:30 to this day I still have no clue how Rose even found that angle. I was confused af watching live cuz I KNEW it was getting blocked. Dude was incredible

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 Před 4 lety +4

      This layup is what separates Westbrook and Rose.

    • @eboy4216
      @eboy4216 Před 3 lety

      @@tmac731 no it’s not

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 Před 3 lety +1

      @@eboy4216 how? Westbrook would’ve gotten blocked trying to go over that top of everybody

    • @Doatello1991
      @Doatello1991 Před 11 měsíci

      ⁠@@eboy4216 Yes, it is. When it comes to pure finishing ability at the rim, Derrick Rose pre-ACL injury blew Westbrook out of the water.

    • @eboy4216
      @eboy4216 Před 11 měsíci

      @Doatello1991 rose was much better at other things so to say this layup Is the thing to separate Westbrook and rose is imo disrespectful

  • @mrbucs
    @mrbucs Před 7 lety +18

    Finally dom2k came out with another vid been waiting

  • @sammyorigin7689
    @sammyorigin7689 Před 7 lety +49

    U know how these goes
    1-Why
    2-Did
    3-The
    4-Warriors
    5-blow
    6-A
    7- three
    8-to
    9-one
    10-Lead

  • @theking5968
    @theking5968 Před 7 lety +30

    I agree that rose deserved the mvp this year but you should've mentioned how when LeBron played for the Cavs they had the best record in the league 2 years in a row then when he left they had the worst record. Shows his value.

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 Před 7 lety +9

      Right, and the Heat didn't even improve by that much. Pretty sure they only upgraded by less than 10 wins. Rose brought the Bulls from 8th to 1st with practically no help.

    • @theking5968
      @theking5968 Před 7 lety +8

      Wayne they improved by 11 wins and would've been a lot better if not for the shaky start. They also went from being a first round exit team to a finals team.
      And I said rose deserved it anyway.

    • @Hidden_Seeker_
      @Hidden_Seeker_ Před 7 lety +6

      Why would he mention that?

    • @theking5968
      @theking5968 Před 7 lety +4

      A. E. Cooper because that happened the year rose won MVP and it shows how valuable LeBron is

    • @geeto99
      @geeto99 Před 7 lety +11

      When LeBron left Shaq left the same year and so did about 6 other teammates. LeBron left without telling the Cavs he was leaving so they didn't find a replacement.

  • @omarmana4842
    @omarmana4842 Před 7 lety +470

    I also got robbed

    • @CP3GOAT
      @CP3GOAT Před 7 lety +69

      Kobe Bryant you also robbed cp3 lol

    • @vlopez078
      @vlopez078 Před 7 lety +5

      Peyton Overall when???

    • @drgfromnyc
      @drgfromnyc Před 7 lety +14

      PGod13 & Westbeast to LAKERS in 2018 In 2008, when Kobe won his sole MVP over Chris Paul.
      I'm not saying who I wanted to win MVP that year, but it's common belief that Chris Paul should've won MVP that season.

    • @A7OldRscplayer
      @A7OldRscplayer Před 7 lety +49

      I've literally never heard that ever LMFAO
      Kobe was robbed of at least 3 MVPs

    • @clyde6082
      @clyde6082 Před 7 lety +29

      Jules no he wasn't, Kobe just put up big scoring numbers on teams with worst records than the MVP winners. That doesn't make him more valuable

  • @kavinkrishnasami6004
    @kavinkrishnasami6004 Před 7 lety +35

    Dom is easily the most unbiased and knowledgeable NBA youtuber

  • @TTSCAM
    @TTSCAM Před 4 lety +6

    It been 9 years since this man won MVP of the league when nobody else expected him to 💪🏾 shit sad I’m mad we didn’t get to see what he would’ve been in his prime 💯

  • @tathagatroy8884
    @tathagatroy8884 Před 7 lety

    much needed video dude

  • @Caesarsinclairjr17
    @Caesarsinclairjr17 Před 7 lety

    this dude has the best video ideas on youtube hands down

  • @mademan7641
    @mademan7641 Před 7 lety +24

    About time somebody destroyed this myth people praise Lebron for his carry job yet give no credit to Lebron. I'm a curry fan but D Rose has my respect 6 years later.

  • @titan126
    @titan126 Před 7 lety +3

    Always good to hear, "What's up NBA fans, Dom2K on the mic"

  • @aceklub96
    @aceklub96 Před 7 lety

    another excellent video. brought up points I had forgotten.

  • @superjede334
    @superjede334 Před 7 lety

    Great vid Dom2k. Nothing but facts!

  • @legendaryfizz4883
    @legendaryfizz4883 Před 7 lety +4

    Just the video I needed 😌😌

  • @SMFCAWFAN
    @SMFCAWFAN Před 7 lety +9

    That video ending is a big fucking W

    • @kb4231
      @kb4231 Před 7 lety

      LORD KEITH yeaahhhhh

  • @beeble7636
    @beeble7636 Před 7 lety +2

    i love the creativity at the end

  • @connorsmith6517
    @connorsmith6517 Před 7 lety

    This video has been needed

  • @jordantassone
    @jordantassone Před 7 lety +5

    Never clicked on a Dom2k video so fast

  • @JesusJ23
    @JesusJ23 Před 7 lety +6

    Rose's problem wasnt his injury. Paul george had a worst injury and he recovered from it. The problem that derrick rose have is that he is unavailable to shoot the ball in a league where the three point has become more and more important every year. Yeah he has lost explosiveness but if he was a better shooter and passer it would not matter. Despite all of this, he deserved the mvp in 2011

    • @Dom2k16
      @Dom2k16  Před 7 lety +16

      Jesus Jimenez Bones heal better than ligaments

    • @JesusJ23
      @JesusJ23 Před 7 lety

      Dom2k well that is true

    • @colinmc06
      @colinmc06 Před 6 lety +4

      You're forgetting the fact that Paul George hasn't suffered any serious injuries since then. Once Rose got injured once, the other knee injuries started happening and happening he couldn't be on the court and his explosiveness dropped as you mentioned by tearing your acl 20 times. Last year rose averaged 18 ppg and was still a good starter.

    • @skatevidcentral
      @skatevidcentral Před 6 lety +1

      Broken leg is actually better than a blown ACL. Joint injuries are always worse.
      Not to mention, Rose's game and dominance was centered around his explosiveness and athleticism. He relied on his quick change of direction moves to get in the lane and to the basket which puts lots of stress on the joints. Paul George's playstyle not as much. Also before his injuries Rose was improving his shooting season by season and from the 3-point range.

    • @deema_q4963
      @deema_q4963 Před 5 lety +2

      No. That is absolutley false. Everybody recovers from injuries differently. However, Paul George is very lucky that he is still a very good player. Also i just wanna add that paul George did not have the worst injury ever it may have looked terrible but drose tore his ACL,Meniscus and plenty of other injuries. And keep in mind PG didn't have any other injuries before he broke his leg.

  • @glodimvovi2345
    @glodimvovi2345 Před 7 lety

    Dom2k back at it again with the best videos

  • @Rodneyjackson11
    @Rodneyjackson11 Před 7 lety

    Another dope video man

  • @nelsonneal9243
    @nelsonneal9243 Před 7 lety +3

    imagine trying to hold an argument with dom2k. impossible to win

  • @YoungDen
    @YoungDen Před 7 lety +10

    Funny thing DRose and Lebron are teammates and they probably gonna talk about that year

  • @jonnyboy1937
    @jonnyboy1937 Před 7 lety

    First time coming back to this channel in awhile, I fw the intro heavy

  • @bendreier1593
    @bendreier1593 Před 7 lety

    dude your videos are great im glad i found your channel

  • @Levan4KGaming
    @Levan4KGaming Před 7 lety +5

    Eh D Rose was so awesome i really miss his game, because of his early years he became one of my favorite player ever

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 Před 7 lety +7

    Rose won that fair and square.

  • @Km-ot4qf
    @Km-ot4qf Před 7 lety

    Great video bro

  • @spitnificent
    @spitnificent Před 7 lety

    Your videos and logic are always on point.

  • @willbowden6897
    @willbowden6897 Před 4 lety +3

    "Why not, why can't I be the MVP of the league, why can't I be the best player in the league?"

  • @raulslaggings5824
    @raulslaggings5824 Před 6 lety +4

    Wtf... LeBron had dwade and Bosh. Ray Allen came along. The eat bench was deep. Rose had Noah.... There's no comparisson, rose led bulls to #1 seed in the east with no help on offense.. y'all crazy to think he deserved MVP over rose who carried that bulls team to a. Better record...

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade Před 6 lety

      Raul Slaggings I can tell you don’t watch basketball past 2016 you’d have some pointers if you said he had Deng only. You just saw the player who had the most accomplishments and said that was the help. And please that Heat 2011 team was not that deep

    • @raulslaggings5824
      @raulslaggings5824 Před 6 lety +3

      what does 2016 have to do with the 2011-2012 season.? lol thats who you wanna start comparing to wade and bosh, luol deng!? lmaoo so you're saying the heat had a worse team than the bulls? lmao you have no idea what you're talking about.. bro you take dross off that team, bulls are lottery team at best. don't even @ me bro lmao your comment is ridiculous. stats aint even shit, I'm saying if you take rose off the bulls and lebron off the heat, the heat are still one of the top teams in the east, the bulls are a lottery team, thats just facts

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade Před 6 lety

      Raul Slaggings the problem with your theory is the fact that they did take Rose off the team via injury and then they won 47 games and then they went to the second round before losing to the heat in 5 in the year 2013, 2 whole years of a roster aging. I’m saying that the fact that you used Noah when he wasn’t the second best player or even the best defender at the time tells me you don’t watch until the year 2016, the Bulls were favorite since they swept the regular season series against Miami and the final nail in the coffin is Rose won it in 2010-2011. At least make me try

    • @raulslaggings5824
      @raulslaggings5824 Před 6 lety +2

      mrslash blade again. Nobody talking about 2013. They added gasol am I wrong? Pretty sure he was a top 5 center/pf at the time... Don't act like they stayed the same, Jimmy Butler was evolving into a superstar. Nigga plz. Ain't nobody talking about 2013. We talking about the team that has no gasol, and a rookie jb who was still not getting minutes and developing. Go back and check everything, ain't nobody quoting the bulls the favorite coming out the east 😂😂 LeBron, Wade, Bosh.. that's all I gotta say man. Rose yeah no body compared to those players, argue all you want but facts are facts mam

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade Před 6 lety

      Raul Slaggings you just said take Rose off that team and they don’t go to the post season, I gave you an example where they do with an older roster and you say it’s obsolete. And when Gasol went to the Bulls he was not a top 5 pf/c hell he wasn’t even the best Gasol, and the year I gave you had Butler coming off the bench. You just completely exposed yourself proving you didn’t start watching basketball until 2016.
      And yes people thought that the MVP of a 60 win bulls team who destroyed Miami in the regular season with the coach of the year was favorite in the 2011 ECF. You really don’t watch basketball.

  • @adrianthompson4833
    @adrianthompson4833 Před 7 lety

    Everytime I watch a Dom2K video, I always nod my head to that opening beat.

  • @brycecarlisle9340
    @brycecarlisle9340 Před 7 lety

    Dude your channel is the best

  • @THEEHaydenRush
    @THEEHaydenRush Před 7 lety +26

    if Westbrook can win the mvp while averging a triple double and being a only a 6th seed,why can't LeBron win finals mvp while averging a triple double and lose

    • @johnnykilroy3737
      @johnnykilroy3737 Před 7 lety +1

      Fax

    • @TheCharlesJackson
      @TheCharlesJackson Před 7 lety +14

      THEEHayden Rush because it's empty. Curry almost averaged a triple double too. Should he have been FMVP over KD? Regular season is different. It's a regular season award. Some ppl are jist commenting without watching the video.

    • @THEEHaydenRush
      @THEEHaydenRush Před 7 lety +8

      TheCharlesJackson LeBron also almost avereged a triple double in the regular season

    • @lebrontherealgoat5835
      @lebrontherealgoat5835 Před 7 lety +1

      W

    • @Hidden_Seeker_
      @Hidden_Seeker_ Před 7 lety +3

      I don't think they're ever gonna give it to a player off the losing team again

  • @Flamangatang
    @Flamangatang Před rokem +3

    One thing you didn’t mention was the amount of clutch shots and clutch performances Derrick Rose had that season.
    One game in particular against Miami where he made clutch shots and set up Deng for the game winning three.
    Off the top of my head I also remember game winners vs Milwaukee & Houston. If you look at any Close Bulls game from 2010-2011 you will see Rose being clutch

    • @Thugg12
      @Thugg12 Před 9 dny

      Still didn’t have a better year than LeBron overall indefinitely was not going to beat the heat in a playoff series

  • @mumenrider9406
    @mumenrider9406 Před 7 lety

    great video as always dom

  • @absm00thMusic
    @absm00thMusic Před 7 lety

    bruh your video be legit fire fam i hope u have much success

  • @jonatanbarrang4353
    @jonatanbarrang4353 Před 4 lety +3

    Dwight Howard deserved 2010-11 MVP more than Lebron that season.

    • @wildcat_savage96-33
      @wildcat_savage96-33 Před 3 lety

      No

    • @jonatanbarrang4353
      @jonatanbarrang4353 Před 3 lety

      @@wildcat_savage96-33 Lebron play with 1 superstar and 1 abpve averaged all star, while still finish 2nd, while Dwight with no star teammate, led Orlando to finish 4th, while put a two way season, on defense and offense not just win DPOY.

  • @MountagaDiallo22
    @MountagaDiallo22 Před 7 lety +21

    I'm a huge LeBron James fan, but c'mon guys, give D.Rose some love. He deserved this MVP more than Bron

  • @OneLeggedStormChaser
    @OneLeggedStormChaser Před 6 lety

    So so so well done Dom, nice work

  • @mycontentistrash1243
    @mycontentistrash1243 Před 7 lety

    Dom the argument killer

  • @rokkarlic4166
    @rokkarlic4166 Před 7 lety +10

    ROSE HAD NO HELP????? WHAT ABOUT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE MY BAD OF ALL TIME, BRIAN SCALABRINE

  • @vladimirm4475
    @vladimirm4475 Před 5 lety +3

    Wait, LeCuck's fans really think Derrick Rose didn't deserve his MVP? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo

  • @Bigslay28
    @Bigslay28 Před 7 lety

    Dom2k snapped me back🐐🐐

  • @DQ_Senpai
    @DQ_Senpai Před 7 lety

    That DBz part had me dying
    I'm glad you are on CZcams Dom you're probably the realest nba tuber I know

  • @wordtoyobamawhatsbrakingni4572

    If somebody makes eye contact with me too long to the point were I have to stop looking first, then expect to run a fade on sight. I'm folding niggas #facts

  • @uhRoid
    @uhRoid Před 7 lety +38

    No offense, but do you _really_ need a 25 second long "intro"?

  • @Sos4real
    @Sos4real Před 7 lety

    Great video, big fan of your work and research.

  • @ytsmokes1606
    @ytsmokes1606 Před 7 lety

    Much respect for this video Dom2k

  • @lavarball6875
    @lavarball6875 Před 7 lety +14

    What about the myth that my sons are busts

  • @joshuajap
    @joshuajap Před 7 lety +3

    HOW BOUT NEXT YOU DO A VIDEO OF THE MYTH THAT KOBE BRYANT DESERVED MORE THAN 1 MVP (2003-2009)

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 Před 4 lety

      Well he did. In 2006 he should have won mvp

  • @ElGranSanto
    @ElGranSanto Před 7 lety

    Seriously though, this was an incredible vid. Easy sub.

  • @trigun442
    @trigun442 Před 7 lety

    This was perfectly said. Thanks Dom that was such a detailed argument.

  • @zero1188
    @zero1188 Před 7 lety +156

    finally someone says it. derrick rose deserved it. these are the same people who think lebron is better than jordan smh

    • @black_savage96
      @black_savage96 Před 7 lety +2

      zero lol what?

    • @walterzhao5191
      @walterzhao5191 Před 7 lety +31

      zero LeBron is better tho

    • @youngcitybandit
      @youngcitybandit Před 7 lety +5

      zero eh i see why people like lbj more than mj. imo its wrong but it makes sense

    • @damarkomoore5236
      @damarkomoore5236 Před 7 lety +20

      Walter Zhao Lmao stop it bronsexual

    • @gloedup150
      @gloedup150 Před 7 lety +9

      Bronsexuals are braindead nobody takes their opinion serious lmao

  • @SincereNetwork4
    @SincereNetwork4 Před 7 lety +6

    57 likes and 32 views wow CZcams congratulations you played yourself

  • @royfridlender4144
    @royfridlender4144 Před 7 lety

    LOVE the ending dom

  • @noodlesvideo14
    @noodlesvideo14 Před 7 lety

    GREATEST VIDEO U EVER MADE

  • @MatixGL2000
    @MatixGL2000 Před 7 lety +52

    Do you know what we deserve?
    A Legend Of Winnin' Collab😊😎

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH Před 7 lety +6

      Malick GL LOW says to much dumb shit imo, like he says a lot of controversial things.

    • @bubbachuck3jr642
      @bubbachuck3jr642 Před 7 lety +2

      Knicks 4 Life especially when it comes to legends. He discredits them to push his narrative that Lebron is the closest to Jordan which I completely disagree. There have been players that have won with less and carried a larger role than Lebron. He also likes to ignore the rule changes that benefits perimeter players in this era and puts defenses at a disadvantage

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH Před 7 lety +1

      bubbachuck3jr I agree and agree again that LeBron isn't the 'closest to Jordan' although only an idiot would think that LeBron doesn't have a chance to surpass MJ when he's done

  • @Memeposting
    @Memeposting Před 7 lety +184

    James Jones Was the NBA MVP That Year like if you agree!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bullsnation5808
      @bullsnation5808 Před 7 lety +5

      NBA Know It All he carried LeBron

    • @goldensperm7182
      @goldensperm7182 Před 7 lety

      NBA Know It All nope it's juwan Howard the real mvp

    • @crackhead2210
      @crackhead2210 Před 7 lety +1

      The white mamba has been MVP since basketball started and will be forever and ever he was snubbed this year

    • @Memeposting
      @Memeposting Před 7 lety

      Straight up facts

    • @squackersquacker6140
      @squackersquacker6140 Před 6 lety

      NBA Know It All nope it was Brian Scalabrine

  • @yonisali3999
    @yonisali3999 Před 7 lety

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!

  • @gregleon2022
    @gregleon2022 Před 7 lety

    Great video

  • @justanaccount8636
    @justanaccount8636 Před 7 lety +213

    Prime D-Rose > Steph Curry

    • @johonanandrewgomes7593
      @johonanandrewgomes7593 Před 7 lety +9

      Quavo Ratatouille prime D rose is the rose now lol it should be MVP DRose>Curry but hope fully he has a great season this year because he is my 2nd favourite player

    • @RackedupYe300
      @RackedupYe300 Před 7 lety +18

      Quavo Ratatouille fuck no

    • @KSlayer112
      @KSlayer112 Před 7 lety +23

      Quavo Ratatouille Curry has nothing to do with this video and Curry > Rose. L

    • @pm69669
      @pm69669 Před 7 lety +32

      2011 d rose>2011 curry. 2016 curry>2011 rose

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 Před 7 lety +16

      Not even close. Unanimous MVP, 73-9, 50-40-90, list goes on.

  • @damiencenters5376
    @damiencenters5376 Před 7 lety

    those bulls heat games were so awesome to watch I'm a massive Bulls fan so I'm glad to see a video like this backing up D Rose

  • @yoni8714
    @yoni8714 Před 7 lety

    Great vid

  • @jeremyturner1331
    @jeremyturner1331 Před 7 lety +5

    Dwayne wade before his knees expired 😂😂😂

  • @tristane2382
    @tristane2382 Před 5 lety +3

    Keith Bogans 😂😂

  • @twoface9959
    @twoface9959 Před 6 lety

    You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Amazing video. 😁😁👏👏

  • @cantbebotheredchangingmypr5714

    Dom you have the BEST thumbnails

  • @willygonzalez5141
    @willygonzalez5141 Před 7 lety +134

    MVP Rose > MVP Westbrook

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 Před 7 lety +27

      Individually no, as for what he did for the team, yes.

    • @ohmangoddamn1986
      @ohmangoddamn1986 Před 7 lety +8

      Just no. Even with Boozer and Noah missing games, they were STILL better than everyone on the Thunder lmfao

    • @dweezy4103
      @dweezy4103 Před 7 lety +2

      OhMan Goddamn in terms of leading a team 100x yes. individually? nah

    • @nicestfilms22
      @nicestfilms22 Před 7 lety +2

      The Vanity oh easily

    • @UnplayedGaming
      @UnplayedGaming Před 7 lety +14

      better passer scorer defender ROSE

  • @TJay-ck1vt
    @TJay-ck1vt Před 7 lety +5

    GIANNIS WILL BREAK THE NBA. CHECK OUT MY GIANNIS MIX. 🔥🔥🔥

  • @King-cn5lc
    @King-cn5lc Před 7 lety

    Love the new intro🔥

  • @pac-man7318
    @pac-man7318 Před 6 lety

    Grreat Video!!! Good stuff Brother. You're good at these videos. Props to you. I will be showing this video to people I know that hate on DRose's MVP. So Thank You for this video lol

  • @erennazir646
    @erennazir646 Před 7 lety +6

    LeBron fans are the absolute worst

    • @samogh2931
      @samogh2931 Před 7 lety +3

      Eren Nazir why?? Cause they tell the truth?? LeBron deserved 11MVPs if we are honest

    • @erennazir646
      @erennazir646 Před 7 lety +4

      S Amogh 😂😂😂 ok

    • @mr.starkidontfeelsogood7413
      @mr.starkidontfeelsogood7413 Před 7 lety +1

      S Amogh no, because u give lebron all the credit when he wins and then we he loses it's the "he didn't have help excuse". Lebron fans don't know "truth" from a pothole in the ground. Lebron fans don't have enough intelligence to know the truth. Lebron fans r insufferable. It's a team game.

    • @nickwatters2817
      @nickwatters2817 Před 7 lety

      Kobe fans are worse but Lebron fans are bad too

  • @tsunamipapi1343
    @tsunamipapi1343 Před 6 lety +3

    People forget that the MVP isn't supposed to go to the better player but the one who's more VALUABLE. Rose was more valuable to the Bulls than LeBron was to the Heat.

  • @PokemasterGamer45
    @PokemasterGamer45 Před 7 lety +2

    Not even starting the vid, but just want to pose an idea. Swap Rose and LeBron and see what happens. If MVP Rose had a running mate like Wade and/or Bosh and players who could knock down an open shot, damn it'd be too easy
    That season was special bc of how special Rose was and how good that team was despite all the flaws. 2010-11 Rose was similar to 07 LeBron and 01 Iverson

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 Před 6 lety

    amazing research..... u one of the best at this on the whole internet..

  • @ccannon1258
    @ccannon1258 Před 7 lety +60

    I remember my dad said he wasn't gonna get me real basketball sneaks until I became a real baller. I worked that whole summer everyday and legit got 5 times better. He saw me try out for my middle school team and that same day he got me the all red D Rose 2.5s. The following week I got a high ankle sprain and missed damn near the whole season...fuck D rose and those sneakers

    • @aphelis
      @aphelis Před 7 lety +3

      Young Draco Malfoy I'm done lmao

    • @jahshield13
      @jahshield13 Před 7 lety +22

      This comment seemed so positive and than just took a nose dive out of nowhere.

    • @dweezy4103
      @dweezy4103 Před 7 lety +8

      lmao same. i baughy droses n broke my foot the next week. last year i boughy more droses (the 5s i think) and sprained my acl 😂 jts all bc the shoes lol

    • @antlora81
      @antlora81 Před 6 lety

      Lmao that's fucked up in so many ways