Graff Black diamond cutoff disc and Graff Speed Cutter review

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2022
  • Graff sent some tools to try out. The Graff Black diamond cutoff blade, Graff Seed Cutter and Graff diamond drill bits. The tools were provided free of charge by Graff but they are not paying for a sponsored video and all opinions expressed are my own.
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Komentáře • 67

  • @wayneheitz8390
    @wayneheitz8390 Před 2 lety +7

    The diamond drill bits work pretty well for drilling fire bricks. Thank you for the review

  • @richardconnor2871
    @richardconnor2871 Před 2 lety +4

    A few other un-mentioned pros and cons:
    Diamond blades don't crack and explode like fiber ones can. I've been hit in the head with a fragment of cutoff wheel, mercifully I had a thick hat on, but it still left quite a goose egg.
    There's a LOT less dust with a diamond wheel than a fiber wheel.
    The diamond wheels heat up the metal a lot more, which may or may not matter.
    I don't know about the Graff discs, but my Lennox diamond cutoff wheels leave quite a bit more of a burr when they're done. Hardly the end of the world, but you'll have to do a little more aggressive cleanup when you're done.
    For me, the pros of the diamond wheels outweigh the cons. I've used nothing but my Lennox diamond grit wheels for the last few years. I just don't want to get hit in the head again XD

    • @1stuwal
      @1stuwal Před 2 lety

      My experience with the diamond grit wheels are the same. Less dust, won't crack and explode like an abrasive etc but I found that as the diamond grit gets blunt or worn the wheel tends to grab when cutting. This can cause the angle grinder to run, kick or climb more making it dangerous. It's hard to tell when diamond grit is getting blunt just by looking at it. For this reason I've gone back to abrasive.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Před 2 lety +2

    Wowsers those look very nice and very useful. Wow hope u get use out of them for many years to come John. Very nice review and information about them. Can't wait to see more videos soon John. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.

  • @HansWeberHimself
    @HansWeberHimself Před 2 lety

    Your endorsements are like other CZcamsrs warnings posted. Much appreciated.

  • @AnonYmous-ii4tc
    @AnonYmous-ii4tc Před 2 lety +2

    Love (and hate) those last few seconds. Made me laugh tho, in a commiserating kind of way, of course. Haha. Thanks for leaving that in.
    I appreciate the short video! And the honest review. I’ve looked at these things, wondering… Now I know that I definitely have a yard-full of uses for that wood bit. Glad you included it.

  • @MrCrazyVidGuy
    @MrCrazyVidGuy Před 2 lety

    Not sure if this was already commented about, but one difference I noticed between the two cutoff discs was the amount of sparks being thrown. Less sparks = less chance of fire. Keep up the good work.

  • @douglasfathers4848
    @douglasfathers4848 Před 2 lety +1

    Really like the diamond cut off disk , lot less dust and less chance of shattering . ✅

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Před 2 lety +2

    Being a woodworker I find very little use for metal working tools but I think I could find a use for that cutoff blade. I do find some metal work creeping into my shop though. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.

  • @jamesafseth326
    @jamesafseth326 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for that info...I go through abrasive disks like a half starved kid with a bag of chips...I'm constantly buying them in 50 packs, and they seem to be gone a few days later...and the mess!...it's impossible to keep my shop clean...I'll definitely be getting a diamond disk, and trying it out!

  • @skabbymuff111
    @skabbymuff111 Před rokem +1

    Cheers for video mate. I like the diamond cutoff blades purely from a safety point of view, traditional discs just go pop to easily for my liking.

  • @5x535
    @5x535 Před 2 lety

    There are two tools in my shop that set off all my alarms. #1 is my go-to for heavy lifting, my Handyman Jack. Each and every time I pick it up the mantra becomes "Beware of handle or eat teeth". #2 is every time I put a toothed cutter in an angle grinder---Danger, Danger, Danger goes off in my head. Either one can take your life in an instant. Ask me how I know. I guess I should mention that John's voice goes off all the time now, whenever I ought to put safety glasses on-----" and don't forget your --- etc. " It's a good thing.

  • @brysonalden5414
    @brysonalden5414 Před 2 lety +1

    I use bits like those to drill holes into rocks to mount steel flower stems. Have to drill under water, but they work great.

  • @randolphchappel6098
    @randolphchappel6098 Před 2 lety +1

    With the drills I was thinking along the line of metal sculptures that I do. About 3 or 4 times a year I go through my shop and pick up all the scraps, cut offs, discards etc. and weld them up into some silly “critters.” Like animals, giant insects, birds, dinosaurs and other unknown type creatures. When I put them throughout my yard just pushed into the ground; and get stolen occasionally. With that drill I could drill into a slab of rock and tap a spud on the bottom of the structure and attach it with a couple nuts!

    • @threeriversforge1997
      @threeriversforge1997 Před 2 lety

      I was thinking the same thing. If you have to install gates and railings, being able to drill into concrete for your screw holes is always good.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 Před 2 lety +1

    Good morning John, thanks for sharing the goodie bag from Graff Tools. Pretty good stuff you got there. Stay safe, Fred.

  • @kumpel1139
    @kumpel1139 Před 2 lety +2

    I bought a 230mm grinder mainly for cutting. The bigger wheels last forever and it cuts a lot faster than any small grinder i have ever used.

  • @ArkCity
    @ArkCity Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the review John. I will try them out

  • @destinationunknown7857
    @destinationunknown7857 Před 2 lety +1

    I bought a diamond cutting blade from Napa. Really like it but I don't have any other experiences to compare with except abrasive disks. The only thing I have to offer is be careful and don't drop it lol. It straightens back out decent but still lol.
    Have really enjoyed being a subscriber to your channel. Thanks for all the tips ...

  • @shifty3453
    @shifty3453 Před 2 lety +3

    Huh those are really cool. I would definitely buy one of those if not for the cut time. It looked almost 3 times longer which for me is the dealbreaker I like to work fast. I a similar thing for my angle grinder for cutting tiles and it works a charm.

    • @Jim55324
      @Jim55324 Před 2 lety

      Agreed. Time is money.

  • @Bangalangs
    @Bangalangs Před 2 lety

    Now I need to buy a bigger cutoff tool. Thanks for the tip John.

  • @stephenborders4654
    @stephenborders4654 Před 2 lety +1

    I used a diamond cutoff wheel and liked it.

  • @notapplicable2515
    @notapplicable2515 Před 2 lety

    Great video, this is what used to be on TV when I was a kid (I wish :)

  • @The_Smith
    @The_Smith Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this review! I was going to ask about what you were using in your angle grinder, but obviously didn't . . . you must have been reading my mind. Given how slow it seems to cut, I think I'll keep using a metal cutting blade in my reciprocating saw.

  • @JacksonDunnoKnows
    @JacksonDunnoKnows Před 2 lety +1

    Fun stuff!

  • @howardrichburg2398
    @howardrichburg2398 Před 2 lety +1

    You could drill rock that is a base for an iron sculpture.

  • @frankgaletzka8477
    @frankgaletzka8477 Před 2 lety

    Hello John
    Thank you for the overview.
    For my Person i use my 1mm abrasiv disc to cut my steel or my sheet metal .
    I dont like this other stuff
    Okay i am a old school guy and perhabs to old for this modern stuff 😉😉😉😉😉😉
    Have a good week best wishes
    Yours Frank Galetzka

  • @NickNameNick2
    @NickNameNick2 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi John.
    I bought a diamond cut-off disk recently, My impression was that it makes a lot less dust than an abrasive disk, which is nice in my small space. But that it was much noisier than the abrasive disks, so perhaps less neighbour friendly if you're working outdoors. It definitely encouraged me to ensure my hearing protection was on properly.
    I'm wondering if you had a similar experience, or of the different brands of diamond cut-off disks affect the noise they make?\

  • @brianottaway8873
    @brianottaway8873 Před 2 lety +1

    It would be great for making wooded bowls.

  • @oscarsoliz781
    @oscarsoliz781 Před 2 lety

    You are right the wood cut off disc does throw the chips everywhere even on your head 😆 🤣

  • @benjhind
    @benjhind Před 2 lety

    I could see those diamond drills being useful for knifemakers. You could skip annealing a blade for drilling holes for pins.

  • @beanieweenie9543
    @beanieweenie9543 Před 2 lety +1

    Pretty significant time difference

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 Před 2 lety +2

    Haven’t tried the diamond cut off wheels yet, have seen them in the tool supplier where I usually buy cut off discs 100 at a time ! I have a diamond wheel for cutting tiles and fibre board so might try that.

    • @threeriversforge1997
      @threeriversforge1997 Před 2 lety

      If you're mostly cutting outside, the abrasive disks are fine even if they do wear down quick. If you cut inside a lot, you'll love the diamond disks because they don't turn to dust and cover the shop. I never realized just how much of a mess all that dust makes until I switched over to the diamond cutters.

  • @iraqiforever3665
    @iraqiforever3665 Před 2 lety

    I just looking behind you for your tools.. like from Iraq

  • @imgnrfan
    @imgnrfan Před 2 lety

    Im i the only one to notise the cute cat in the window ? 🥰😍

  • @ga5743
    @ga5743 Před 2 lety

    Nice to see you getting some goodies, when’s the CNC being delivered?😀

  • @NVArt001
    @NVArt001 Před 2 lety +1

    With regular cut-off wheels being almost $5 a piece now, paying $18 for one that lasts for 3000 cuts is a bargain.

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe Před 2 lety

    Maybe you could do some glass art along with steel art?

  • @threeriversforge1997
    @threeriversforge1997 Před 2 lety

    Are you salting your dishing stump to minimize the smoking and char? Learned that last year from a Russian smith, via Athens Forge, and it's made a world of difference in the stump's performance.
    As for the cut-off disks.... I love my diamond cutter. Way better than abrasive disks if only because there isn't a thousand pounds of dust sprayed all over the shop. I never realized how much dust and grit was getting spread around until I switched to the diamond wheels. Orders of magnitude better, even if they're also slower.

  • @Fogyt121
    @Fogyt121 Před 2 lety

    The steel on the diamond discs could be hardenable

  • @bernardleighan3218
    @bernardleighan3218 Před 2 lety

    Please be careful with that wood blade on the 4 1/2 grinder. I know someone who was seriously injured with one of those things. Thanks for the review. God bless you and yours.

  • @chriskelly3678
    @chriskelly3678 Před 2 lety

    🎶Diamonds are a girl's best friend.🎶
    Maybe a way to get the wife cutting stock?
    I wish my wife were more interested in moving metal. 💚🌵☘

  • @standaffern6595
    @standaffern6595 Před 2 lety

    Well on your recommendation I ordered some Combat abrasive flap discs and and grinding belts. As of today it has been 10 days and all I have for my trouble is a shipping label created. And that only after i emailed them on the 6th day asking for the status of my purchase. It has been another 4 days since and no further action has happened, according to the Fed-ex tracking website.
    Just by comparison, Benchmark abrasives delivery has been about 5 days from ordering till its on my doorstep and at a lower cost per unit. Just felt you should know how my experience has been with Combat abrasives.
    As far as I am concerned, they have lost a paying customer, as that kind of service is unacceptable, and this without even trying their product.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 2 lety

      Sorry to hear that. All I can comment on is my experience and so far I have been very happy with the products I have received. But I also don't worry to much about shipping times unless I paid extra for express shipping. Hopefully they will get back in touch with you soon.

    • @standaffern6595
      @standaffern6595 Před 2 lety

      Actually i did pay 10$ for shipping, to hopefully speed things up a bit, and did not take advantage of their free shipping, even though i spent 272$, so the whole experience has begun to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

  • @67spellcaster
    @67spellcaster Před 2 lety

    In scanning through the comments I see no mention of RPM requirements or limits on the diamond cutoff wheel. I suspect a battery powered angle grinder probably runs slower then an AC powered one. Is that a factor in this decision? Also would these Diamond discs be prone to plugging up if cutting aluminum or non-ferrous metals? Any help or input would be appreciated.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 2 lety

      13,200 RPM on the blade. Most grinders run at 10,00O RPM. No idea on other materials

    • @67spellcaster
      @67spellcaster Před 2 lety

      @@BlackBearForge thank you so much!

  • @xrexc3179
    @xrexc3179 Před 2 lety

    Are the diamond blades safer? As in no worries of a shattered disk sending shrapnel thru yourself or onlookers.. .

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 2 lety +1

      They do claim to be shatter proof.

    • @xrexc3179
      @xrexc3179 Před 2 lety

      @@BlackBearForge great to know and thank you for the response! Awesome video!!!

  • @justin_ray
    @justin_ray Před 2 lety +1

    Batteries always die at the worst possible time, it is a law of electricity 🤣

  • @jdlives8992
    @jdlives8992 Před 2 lety +2

    Don’t I repeat DO NOT used that wood disk with one hand. Dude I know lost a big chunk of his arm he said it happened so fast. He is wrecked from it. They cut like hell in wood and plastic

    • @MartilloWorkshop
      @MartilloWorkshop Před 2 lety +2

      Anything with teeth is a really dangerous idea on an angle grinder in general. I wouldn't recommend them. The problem is that the teeth allows the disc to travel like a chainsaw once it sticks. You don't want a 8000RPM angle grinder travelling. There are plenty of horror stories out there.

  • @Jim55324
    @Jim55324 Před 2 lety +2

    Abrasive discs make my clothes smell bad.

  • @vatansever..
    @vatansever.. Před 2 lety +1

    Hi sir, how are you?, there is no turkish language option on this beautiful informative video... We have limited English sir master.

  • @MartilloWorkshop
    @MartilloWorkshop Před 2 lety

    If someone is switching cut off discs 3-4 times a day, they're using them wrong. Plunge cuts will destroy a cut off disc in no time, but they're meant to be used with small shallow passes with little to no pressure. The difference is that if used right, they last for literally 10 times more cuts. I don't even switch cut off discs every month in my shop, but I used to switch every week or every couple of days. So a diamond disc lasting a year isn't that impressive when normal discs last weeks or months. And when used right, the cut off discs will still cut slightly faster than the diamond disc it seem.
    The wood disc seem like a bad idea. It looks safer than the insane chainsaw discs, that shouldn't be allowed anywhere, but I'm not convinced I want a skilsaw/angle grinder combo, even if it does only have 3 teeth.

  • @theundergroundesd
    @theundergroundesd Před 2 lety

    love the channel but could do without a 6 minute video that is only a product review.

  • @jackshadow325
    @jackshadow325 Před 2 lety

    I personally would not use a toothed blade in an angle grinder.