😱 Someone CHALLENGED me to get GOLD on a PAD... || Gran Turismo 7
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- I occassionally get comments that a Gold time is impossible on a Pad, while sometimes it can be hard it's never impossible... I got another comment recently so I put it to the test... Can I get Gold on a PAD?? I haven't used one for a VERY long time so lets give it a go!
Event: GT7 Time Trial
Track: Sardegna C Reverse
Car: Ferrari Dino
...Enjoy :)
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The ultimate "shut up and get better" video 😂😂😂
pretty much lol
🤣!!
100% no. I've got gold on this with ps4 controller and I can only gold quarter of the tracks so this one is a lot easier than others.
So you need to get better at the other tracks. Im willing to admit that im not good enough for golds, i think ive 1, and ive a DDpro. Im old and slow and cant read the undulations of the tracks and am way off the racing line on most corners where there is less grip etc etc. @72ratbag
But I love it😊
Former A+ Controller Player here. This game is extremely Controller friendly, but the settings make it difficult. Once you up the sensitivity and get used to it you can become really quick.
Do you mind explaining or suggesting some sensitivity settings ? I'm currently A Dr on controller and trying to improve.
The goal is to play on max sense. If it feels uncomfortable, just increase it by 1 every week until you get there. Also a former A+ controller player here.@@kezzab7961
@@kezzab7961switch to motion sensor controls it feels way better like that can't switch back to sticks now
@@kezzab7961 Sorry for the late response. Just get used to higher sensitivity and work your way up. I would aim for 8-10 sensitivity.
For other settings:
I use the adaptive triggers on strong. It's probably not too important, but i think it helps a bit.
I use hood cam, bc you can see the yaw of the car. It also gives you a bit more overview.
Also play around with sound. Tire squeal is an important indicator in racing games, so you should be able to hear it all the time. Also hearing your opponents can be very useful.
That challenge was a slam dunk for you Tidgney. Anyone who's been following you years will know you cut your teeth compeeting on a pad. Talent is talent, no matter what tool you use to drive these cars
Don't know if your aware of Sam Pilgrim on CZcams. His free bike challenge series is just that. Talent beyond talent
I’m handicap and I’m driving one hand on wheel and second on pedals. It was hard to get gold but after your explaining video I got it💪💪💪
I've got a logitech G pro wheel and it has 2 extra paddles that some use for clutch and hand brake but u can also set them to accelerator and brake .Not cheap but a great option imo
@@Dave062YTit will be perfect but I can’t move my fingers also 😂 thanks for tips
The fanatec McLaren rim has 4 padles too... 2 you can map gas and brake... another option.....
@@pdx_datgyzdad8448I have limited movements in my fingers because of neck injury and I can’t use the padles. Pedals are ok😉
@@pdx_datgyzdad8448I can’t use the padels because I have high neck injury and I can’t move my fingers, so pedals is only the option😉
But can you do it on a guitar hero controller?
I tried to beat saber my way through
I only switched to a wheel about a year ago. Never had trouble getting gold in the trials with the pad. Also did all license tests with a pad before I got the wheel, and all gold. Also, Jimmy Broadbent did all Master licenses on a pad and got all gold. Live, on stream.
I have to admit, this challenge was easier with the controller than with the wheel
After watching the video: yeah, great, you're faster than me on your third try, awesome and not depressing at all 😂
I just transitioned to a wheel 2 months ago after using controller for 2 years. Both have their pluses and minuses and both require a certain amount of skill to accomplish golds and high levels at racing. I'm in VR and the wheel just gives me so much more immersion and the aluminum rig is super comfy for those long sessions but the ps5 controller is great and the main thing is to have fun. Great video Tidge, if you ain't fast enough just get good lol.
Just got a shell today and really struggling with it
I'm A+, top split in Dailies and 3rd(sometimes even 2nd) split in GTWS using a pad AND automatic. Anybody claiming that it's impossible to be competitive with a pad is either too lazy to get better or simply lacks talent.
Likewise, currently 200th in the Daily C Quali Rankings, with a PS4 controller, not even with haptic feedback, I will admit though on my Rig I'm generally about half a second quicker
You sir are a legend. Amazing skills. Gives all us pad racers the hope we need. Keep up the great work.
That's wicked Tidge. I also noticed that even after 3 months after getting a wheel its rly easy to jump back on a pad. People don't believe when I tell them but pad is legit easier to be good on than a wheel. By good I mean you can gold everything and get to A+. Its beyond that where the wheel excels at. After 3 months I'm still only matching my controller times on a wheel in tt, and in race pace its just not even close, if I try that pace on a wheel I keep crashing. On a controller I just have more confidence out of corners knowing fully whatever happens I can catch the oversteer EASY.
10:29 hit hard Tidge, many thanks! I am in B/S rank, trying to get into A. Starting mostly in top 3 but get punted on T1 at Monza half of the races, so I was really DONE with it. This gave me motivation, going to do a few more races now.
I can't get gold on the wheel. I'm usually not far off, But I understand it's just my lack of top skills. I've found there's a group that is just naturally talented and those of us who struggle. I'm happy having clean, fun races and getting silver. Not everyone can be amongst the fastest. It's not easy, but that's the point. If it was like an arcade game and everyone could get gold with almost every car it wouldn't be a real simulator. It takes natural gift, kind of like hitting a baseball, some are naturally gifted, some have to work and practice harder and some will never be major league but that's OK, the point is to keep trying and have fun! Know your limitations but keep working. Great video Tidge, you got skills most of will never have. I know I'm high B/low A and will probably never reach A+ but that's OK, I race clean, occasionally make mistakes and hit someone, but apologize if I do, but typically I'm the victim 10x more than the perpetrator. I don't care about gold or A+, I want to be challenged abd have fun, good clean battles. People are obsessed with "winning" or "getting gold". Like you said, it's about just trying to improve. 👍 👌 TY
Pad player myself here too, had no really issues getting gold on this as well. Took me a good few attempts to dial into the track.
I often think I’d be faster with a wheel and pedals, because I’d have better throttle and brake feathering abilities than I can do with a pad.
That said I can most often compete on a pad, multiple gold TTs and generally competitive online at the top of the B lobbies, pushing for A lobbies.
Epic! Just trying to get the feel for the pad again and still get Gold! This is why you are one of the GOATs! Well done
👏👏👏 love this!!
As a pad player I find this so encouraging, I fluctuate a lot from track to track pace wise but I'd definitely agree gold is always possible, all about lines and apex speeds. Thanks tidge!
I feel his pain, playing on pad myself...but hey, if I can gold it, it ain't impossible...took a bit, watching Tidgney's videos and top 10 ghosts helped ^^
First try though...wow, talent comes through Tidge!
this one is probably easier on the controller. oversteering correcting is so much easier when playing with controller
Yes it feels that the game helps you correcting the gas input when playing on the pad, even with all assists off. But I find it harder to be precise on direction compared to the wheel.
Awesome, i never thought you would do it straight away.
I'd like to see you do it with motion control turning and trigger brake accel as a fun challenge video; I loved this, thank you for doing it! I get a smile every time I pass your avatar in single player; dream I'll be good enough to just be in a race with you some day :)
Thanks for nothing Tidge. You have managed to ruin my entire GT7 and CZcams careers with just a single video. I am now an officially broken man. I'm off now to throw my PS5 INTO THE BIN ! ! !. Cheers mate ;)
😮🤣🤣🤣🤣 hope not serious No no no, "never give up, don't ever give up." 🤗
@@robwr737 I mean the guy doesnt touch a controller for years then just picks one up and casually smashes out a gold time. Damn Im getting old. 🤣
@@PhantaxRacing me too! 😆
😂😂😂😂😂
I like the idea of throttle and brake on the right stick! Thanks tidge!!!😊
Great video man!
From all GT7 youtubers, i like you the best, best character, superb explanations and guides, your attitude, honestly, you deserve to grow exponentially. Keep the grind, Tidge! 🎉🤙🏼😎
Awwww Thanks mate I really appreciate that comment 💛
I'm a pad user and I can easly say the pad give you a massive reaction on throttle and brake pedal, if you have a steering wheel and meet someone in a pad he will brake later than yourself and accelerate faster. This also because it is faster to reach the end of travel of a trigger than of a pedal. The only negative impact that pad have is about handling in my opinion and tyre saving
Nothing further from the truth that you need to have a wheel
Absolutely brilliant as always Tidge 😂😂😂
On a wheel, a pad, a remote control, a scalextric, a hotwheels , the real GT 🐐!!
Mate that's highly impressive. I was ready to slam this vid as there are plenty of A+ drivers who use pad, but when you said you was using joystick I was like "wow, let's see what happens". First go as well!
Assuming up/down is acceleration/brake? But yeah I've not done this yet but assuming all times beat me 😂
Next challenge - still got a PS4? Let's see the time difference
Ye that's right on the right stick, left stick for steering
Pretty impresive, this gave me a challenge with a wheel but i managed to get the gold eventually after so many tries
I got my wheel last year but, I switch to the pad for dirt, snow and these drifty cars, it just works better. I'm comfortably in the gold times and I use X and O to accelerate and brake.
I have been using the pad, steering with motion sensor for the last 5,5 years (since GT Sport) . It takes a bit of time to get used to it, but once you do, it can be very helpful
this video cracks me up in a good way, so thanks again!
it took me years to save for a wheel after using a pad for 24 years, and setting up a 'rig' is not essential if like me you have other financial priorities!
just use a reliable wheel (cheap LT29 which does me perfectly for a while to come) clamped to a cheap 'hospital bed style' table and firm couch that i already had!
wheel was like $380 Aus new, done! (AUS dollar remember is not worth much next to the Pound).
that change from pad to just a cheap reliable wheel gave me the courage to finally start racing in the world championships just this month! yesterday came first, yes, i'm a very happy chappy!
i'd like to think if i can do it well.... 🏁🇦🇺
Great response. Casual player here, been using a pad and full auto since the original Gran Turismo released in 1997 - took about 30 laps to get a 1:05.500 on this TT. Golds are sometimes a tad frustrating for us mere mortals but definitely not unachievable.
FWIW to the original commenter, I was recently gifted an entry level wheel set up and struggle to get anywhere near the pad times. Horses for courses and all that 😂
I absolutely love this video, shows me it is possible. I'll try harder :)
Great video! I remember when I got my wheel, I was like "ha, I'm gonna be so much better" and you know what? I was WORSE. Not even kind of worse, but like WAAAAY worse. Granted now I'm better, but it's because of practice and not because of the wheel.
100% the same with me as well.
There's a football chant as the goalkeeper is about to kick the ball up the pitch....that comes to mind for the complainer....😂😂😂😂
Class tidge 👍 I 100% know not getting gold times is down to my ability not others ability to go quicker. Braking is my main issue or confidence in braking, but I know it's more consistent for me to brake on a pad but prefer the immersion of my wheel. Like you say know how to improve yourself before you complain about what others are doing.
This is brilliant. The old adage bad workman blames their tools comes to mind. I use a controller and on silver on this time trial at present. Slowly improving, but it's not the controller that's the issue it's me!
Sometimes the guys who complain in this way needs a very personal help. Take myself for example, I am mostly on AT and pad acceleration - I am good enough to gold all the non-dirt Circuit Experiences on AT (including Nurburgring North), but I remained completely offline for a long time. Then I began to test my skills on the online TT, starting from Suzuka on the McLaren Formula 1 car and got a very frustrating Bronze time, sitting around top 30% of the worldwide ranking. After 3 more online TT, I got my first silver and got into top 20% ranking, but it wasn't until the Nurburgring NSX TT that I realized I can be the top 3% player (as it is a track that I spent almost half my racing hours in learning and that it is too difficult for many people who would otherwise be better than me in other tracks), doing a sub-7:00 time. I realized that many times, I wasn't able to replicate what these video guides are doing in a fine way, and then I began to push myself harder - from the throttle input (on the pad), the racing line and even the choice of car (in the case where you pick from a group of cars). Since the end of last year, I have been consistently on top 10% world ranking of the online TT, and on 2 occasions, even top 2%. It's very clear that the controller is not really limiting the players, but rather how capable we are in self-learning, how observant we are to the learning materials and how much time we can spend on perfecting our skills.
This is brilliant. Hahaha. Well done mate.. well done :)
I'm not the best GT7 driver, but I did get gold on the last 8 or so time trials with a controller. Some of them (for example this Dino one) were actually pretty easy. The Bathurst one with the Genesis was truly painful, because you need to be extremely precise in that middle section and not to hit the walls, thats I think harded with a controller than with a wheel.
But yeah, if it's just 1 lap, it's more about the driver itself (hitting break points, accelerating at the right time, using the correct lines) and not the hardware
Great video
I love this! There are always going to be some whiny twats out there that complain about everything. One of my best bros dusts me in times and he is on the controller, and I'm on the wheel. Totally doable to get golds on controller.
Don't need a wheel per se (sometimes I could see a rig being far more effective, like if you are missing a few fingers or something). I've beaten Tidge on many tests/trials with a controller. It's down to ability and dexterity. Tidge even used a horrible controller config because you cannot overlap brake and throttle in that application.
I've drive LeMans with Bugatti and the pad for many Laps. Yesterday I did it for 0.2sec under Goldtime. I don't know where the other 6 seconds on the Track for the first places. It was very difficult.
Max Verstappen raced with a pad when he started up until 4 am before he won the Saudi GP
Great video mate 👍 i got gold on both accounts while in Auto 😊Is it worth getting better with manual? Im about a second a lap slower in manual but i feel in Auto yes braking earlier but i also wish i could go down a gear mid corner while using auto.Manual id say is better for fuel saving also because i can short shift and double shift up the gears if needed 🤔Ok i think i better get better at manual now i think about it 😂
I only find an issue once there’s tyre wear involved, and the cars that are quicker than Gr.2 become a little more difficult to obtain gold challenge status, but other than so be it. It’s a pick up and play situation, works for me. I’ll go out in my M4 if I want real wheel feel!
I do agree tyre wear is an issue for Pad Players. It's why I hate large mulitpliers
Im yet to get gold on a wheel.. haha and you smash it first time on a pad.. very interesting that its easier to control oversteer on a pad. Gonna give it a whirl tonight.
well done mate I've only managed 12 on this challenge lol
This video only depresses me more. I can only get silver on a wheel. I've worked hours on trying to improve only to have someone sneeze in the next room and the back end goes out! In real life if someone offered me to drive this car, I'd say no way! It's depressing when you can barely rise to mediocre.
On my end it was the other way around. I just play on wheel everytime (A/S) and golded the 16 last TTs, and could only manage gold with controller for this one. The weight transfer at the uphill right turn just killed every lap on wheel. 😂
I am a pad player, and I got the gold time, and got the gold times on the track experience and got the gold times on license except for the last 1..... yes, being able to use a racing rig will speed you up, but you can get good on a pad, and I am A/S driver on the dailies as well..... so it is possible. +A, I doubt it, unless I learn to change gears
LMAOO!! hope i never see complaints again lol
right stick for accelerating/braking seems crazy to me im not gonna lie 😅
Haha, something i've always used since the Playstation 1 days 😱
Now before I start I just want say that I have to use the right stick for the throttle and brake input, I do have those set to the triggers as well and use those when I need to do quick inputs on both at the same time.
I don't know that's a big difference but just to be clear.
I get gold in these all the time on a pad and I do think it very possible to be on par with the wheel and pedal drivers.
Now, having said that I also believe having used both that 'getting good"(for lack of a better phrase) is easier to do on wheels and pedals (or atleast it was for me than it is on a pad.
I don't use countersteering assist, maybe it's faster with that but I tried it and didn't like it, didn't feel natural.
And finally I firmly believe that some car and track combo suit the wheel and pedal better when it comes to to tirewear and fuel saving. And maybe there are some combos that suit the pad better,I don't know.
Oh and having to take my thumb of the left stick (my steering) to change my heads up display is really annoying. Just me have two of those displays so I can constantly have the radar on and whatever else I need. That's my biggest issue with the pad vs Wheels, so many buttons on the wheels and you don't have to let go of the wheel when using them.
Thats impressive.
19 laps to get 1:05.7 for me and my pad........ only 5 laps werent red too.
Played on pad for years. Still worse on my wheel. The wheel is more fun, but the pad is easier, mostly because of the oversteer. Catching slides on a wheel with 0 TC is solid. So I play 0 TC on pad, 1 on wheel when racing as I can't push as hard on a wheel yet. But for TT I'll be 0 even on wheel as I can get a little faster. But pad was completely playable and competitive.
I did this on pad gyro steering!! PS4 too 😃
People just don't want to admit they're slower than some.
Ok mate, can you please try it with the motion controls? When I'm too lazy to bring the rig out and I find the motion controls are quite fun, BUT, I have never gotten gold with it. Would love to see how do with it, whether it be in a race or lap time challenge. Please mate! Cheers!
I tried a pad recently for the cappuccino race, I was struggling with the wheel and was faster to start with the pad until I figured out how to drive it. I can't gears on pad so auto on it, it's mad, I use pad for Dirt 2.0 Rallycross, can't deal with it on rig.
Its almost like there is still some sort of traction control/stability when using a pad even with no asists on.
Hey to be fair I got gold in this time trial on a controller too. The last couple turns were the worst part 😅
Arkeys always smashes gold on TTs on controller so never doubted you 'd do it .Ps5 controller is also a lot better than the old ps4 version too .When I first switched to wheel it took me a while to get quicker although it was a better experience
Me thinking he was going to drive with the trackpad somehow 😂
Great job, i'm too bad to get gold in most challenges even with a Logitech PRO.
I use a wheel most of the time, but I personally think the dirt and snow stuff actually is easier on the pad.
Would you do a current guide for the Human Comedy missions? Most of the vids are from a year ago and don't reflect the current difficulty. I'm really struggling with them.
I still need to do them yet 👀
Without watching the video there is no doubt Tidgney will get GOLD, hey Tidg back at the academy on GT5-6 I don’t remember now, I qualified 151th(3rd using the pad) European and 252th ( 5th using the pad)in the world with the pad, today I am nowhere near tour level but I think using the wheel and a bit more practice I can take off a 1 sec maybe💪💪💪
You should do a daily race with a pad. Maybe tips on how to manage tyres better and/or how to be more consistent
I've done that before and there is a plan to do it again to 😊
@@tidgney You should. You should also make it a video. I'm sure some people would find it instructive and might be a challenge for you as well 😏. Would love to see the discrepancies between the controller and wheel
@Tidgney To be honest: I gave up on this time trial for the moment. Despite my best laps felt very quick, it's only bronze😢
But not because I'm a automatic pad driver. I'm just slower than even Cpt. Slow😂.
Because I play SOMETHING on my PS5 maybe 2 or 3 times a week for 1 hour or so after my work as a mechanic when I'm already tired.
So I know I could get much faster if would dive into it.
gt7 is very doable on pad. Since getting the game and console last may there are only 2 time trials i havent gotten gold on. And frankly if i had done a few more laps i would have definitely gotten gold on them too. Think im at a 1.05.1 something with a pretty average lap on this weeks
Well, I must be very bad (and I'm not) I saw your video, and tried at least 13 times! And just got 1:06.745 for Silver. You do things in the corners with the controller that I found impossible!!! 😔
Just focus on an individual corner if you're struggling to get gold, as there will be time in every corner and focusing on one corner will help with this.
I have bought a G29 a few months ago after several years on the ctrl. I honestly think PD did a great job with the DualSense and how accessable the game is using it. There are specific cases where I am still faster on the ctrl, like rally, snow and slidy cars such as in this TT. The guy complaining is wrong.
bloody well right you did it gold on the first try
I've been playing Gt for years and my humble opinion is that TT's are easier on the controller when it is road cars
There are certain things limited by pad, this isn't one of them. I made it to A+ multiple times on Pad, GTS and GT7. Works very well if you put in the practice and learn it.
To the original complainer: Git Gud mate. It's a skill issue
I'm desperate to get myself in to a rig, but am fully aware that the game is very playable on the controller
I mean, I don't do many time trials, and tbh am not that good, but I recently did the Ford Roadster trial at Grand Valley and got gold.
Always satisfying to hit them with the “skill issue” by example lol
I race exact with this Controller setting and did 1.05.1 after 5 rounds. Maybe wheel is a bit better but nearly all TT's r possible to golden it
Haha. This is the funniest vid around.. lol
You should stream and race dailies on a controller too 😂
With a pad you can go lock to lock in blink. Makes controlling oversteer much easier in my opinion. You need to be much smoother on wheel.
Fair play for doing it first lap😂
You can move the stick lock to lock in a blink, but the actual steering is slower because of input smoothing. BUT when countering oversteer, the game helps a lot in picking the right AMOUNT of countersteering to apply. With a wheel you have to get the angle exactly right all by yourself.
@@ArumesYT ah right 👍 how do people find this stuff out ?
@@Wootts007In my case, just by playing on both wheel and pad. So you get to know the pros and cons of both.
Next challenge should be ABS Weak instead of Default which has a baked in cornering assist.
I'm currently saving for a wheel. However, I've recently-ish become a father, so I've currently saved £0.00. I've got gold until the S license on the special stage with the castrol Celica (I think) and hitting the walls is stopping me from getting gold. I like completing it in order, so after that (including all the master tests), I don't have any golds unless I got it in the first couple of tries.
Bahaha. That's hilarious.. 😂
I am faster with the wheel but I know plenty of fast people with a pad. I'm some ways it's easier with a pad, in others it's easier with a wheel. *Personal preference
I found super gt when he was still on pad but what settings do I need to change to make pad better? I don’t have room for a rig at all.
I always use controller sensitivity 7 if I do use a pad. I think that's the best setting personally, but its very sensitive as well!
When your good your good and when you're me you are the complete opposite. I do have the benefit of I hardly ever play anymore.
Mad 👽
I seem to remember you golding the original redbull car with the controller. Many many many years ago
Haha yes that's right, the only person to do it as well before they brought in the Sensitivity patch which made it easier 😜
Never forget that Lucas Ordoñes qualified for GT Academy with a controller
Or maybe a Dj hero turn table 😅
Just did this yesterday and it took 30min u gotta b precise wheel is easier by far u can b more precise but doable on controller
Pad user here and no problem with gold
sometimes you have to accept that you're not always going to get a gold time. I've had challenges with some combos that no matter how many tries, I can't break the gold time. and that's OK.
Snow and rally trials I still use a controller on
It's difficult, ngl, but it's absolutely possible to get gold with a pad, I've gotten gold on all 11 time trials I've done, and some of my times have been in the top 1.5% of times
It takes me a lot of effort but it is absolutely possible even on the most hateful and difficult trials
The tt with the Ford roadster was one I had the potential to have gotten a sub 1% time on, but I could never string together the sectors needed
I tend to stop when I'm within 2.7-2.8% of times, but I know I can do better if I pushed it more, but I'm generally not that bothered as long as I get gold (if I had a friend who played it I'd push a lot harder though)
Wonder if the original comment on the first video disappears now 😂😂
I don't think pad is slower. On certain occasions, it is actually better than a wheel imo. however, the wheel does add to the immersion. I think if you have the skills, you will be able to do almost same lap times with both. I know this cause I'm a B rank driver & my lap times are almost similar with both. As my skill driving skill increases, it will show for both the pad & the wheel.
so, basically; anyone who thinks they are slow because they don't have a wheel just need to get better.
Agreed, though from my experience, the wheel is more accurate in most settings. I'm usually at least half a second faster with the wheel. Currently i got 17 gold medals and i only got 2 of them with the pad (if my time with the Dino will be good enough, that is). But a better driver like Tidge here can get gold on anything I guess