Fashion & Style: The 52 Blocks | The New York Times
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- Practitioners of the 52 Blocks show some of the techniques that are part of the fighting style, and discuss its legitimacy as a sport.
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Some of the ogz said they used this to block razors attacks back in the day
Much respect to 52 Blocks & its creators. And may this style of fighting lasts as long as civilization itself.
Great to see the 52s getting some more mainstream recognition.
Wow. I don't think I've ever read a YT comment that's twelve years old! I was...22 at the time of your comment. Time flies.
Why
My wife's uncle is a kickboxer, 52 blocks boxer and Kimura hand lock when he was in the police force back in the boomer days. He used some 52 blocks and Kimura to make an arrest.
52 blocks needs to be documented because it's a very effective martial art . And should also have a ranking system .
No, ranking system because it watered down
No lmao
The thing with the 52 is you have to CONSTANTLY work at it to be really great at it. You cant half *** it
I grew up in BedStuy watching guys fighting this in the 70's. I have witness guys do real damage to people using this style.
I took some conceps of 52 to defend against ground and pound, but it only works in a bare hand fight. The art has some good qualities
@Damon Case did you ever read the comment. He said SOME things work. And even then, it was against ground and pound. God forbid the guy on top tries to chike you unconcious, or worse, to death
@@xayer98 it works for me alot. Same with yoell romero and dustin porier
What? Boxing gloves make this technique even easier
@@twotimetony78i can see it with yoel but what dustin does is just your basic stonewall guard. Idk how 52 works but i do know boxing and what dustin does is definitely a stonewall guard
Lyte Burly is the best 52 teacher. Find him if you're truly interested. He's got DVDs and lessons.
Absolutly.Theres no other like him👍🙌💯
Mr 52 is the best to ever do it
He was a student of Mr 52 Blocks.
@@StaxDaDonnTV facts
Music is the best 52 teacher.
I see elements of wing chun in 52 blocks
Exactly what it is. It’s wing chun and boxing mixed into one.
@Ron-Jacques Dessalines wasn't there a 52 blocks coach who admits he's a wing chun guy
@Ron-Jacques Dessalines the blocks, and its grabbing is similar to wing chun
@Ron-Jacques Dessalines did you answer your own question? I mentioned a 52 blocks coach who also studied wing chun. And Lyte is the guy I know
@Ron-Jacques Dessalines but isn't it a bit? Lyte admitted he was a wing chun guy and made his style of 52 blocks out of the wing chun methods. Blending in his art with another
52 Blocks could use some manuals, texts, something on paper. Very good techniques, lots of catches and counters.
George Foreman used the cross over block one of my favourite fighters of all time.
It all makes perfect sense to me. A fighting technique born by need and developed via trial and error. Confuse, strike, defend in no particular order with the goal of overcoming an opponent in an everyday confined enviroment. It's clear though that it has not been perfected. In one word, is it defensive or offensive?
man after watching this and learning about 52 i realised why black people fight different on the stree tthen white people. its becuz of those old influences that have passed down. look at how the russian white guys fight vs black guys in the US. our style is much more showy but still effective for street fighting. the 52 lets me see so many things ive seen in street fights but its street fighting gone completely martial art. put to maximum efficiency
I’ve been using some of the 52 without even knowing. Wow.
Lyte Burly, if I’m ever in NYC I’d really like to train with you. Much respect from Houston, Texas.
Who’s here from Isreal Adesanya post / comment that was pinned? “Boy started doing the 52 blocks lol” 😭
i'm a catchwrestler/lutra libre esporta guy and I will tell you this if you want to be a great fighter you have to adapt. i am sure there are a few things you can learn from 52.
I love the idea of it, yet I really would like to see it in a real life fight, by an actual practitioner. but some reason, my 12yr old son has always fought like this (without training)... I never understood why.. (I thought something was wrong with it)... but I notice, he rarely ever gets hit.. and he always connects his punches. I'd like to see him train with real fighters one day.
keep up the good work
Clubbin Mag to me it seems like a style that capitalizes on instinctual fighting, because it seems to be able to change or evolve with a user's knowledge of fighting overall.
thts cos ur son will be a criminal one day
Your kid has a very good instinct to comprehend his biomechanics, which is something a knowledgeable master will tell you that is a central ability for combat and adaptability in a fight.
Way back In GA prison systems they called it the Alto shuffle and the style included knee attacks with the movement dam near Impenetrable
when you have spent some time in prison where your life is on the line every second of every day. then you will understand the neccessity for an art like this
I'm dead 😂😂😂😂 and anyone who uses this for self defense would be ACTUALLY dead
@Damon Case did I say that? No. And in prison, there's definitely more of a worry about getting stabbed than a fist fight. All I'm saying is that, as someone who is part of the REAL martial art community, I know what works and what doesn't. I'm not saying every technique is useless. There are SOME good things about it. But any mixed martial artist who knows even the basics of jiu jitsu and kickboxing would put anyone using 52 blocks to shame. There is a big difference between street fighters and actual martial artist. If you're using street fighting tactics against a street fighter, than OF COURSE it would be effective. 99.999% of guys in prison are street fighters. Not martial artist.
And even military hand to hand training has holes. It's been proven that most techniques to disarm an opponent using a knife, for example, that they teach in the military will in fact end up with you still getting stabbed a few times before actually disarming your assailant
@ yeah, when one guy KINDA knows how to fight against someone who knows nothing or very little, he'll win. Congrats. Put 52 blocks up against jiu jitsu or kick boxing or muay thai. It's NOT going to work. Why do people insist on living in a fantasy world. There's REAL stuff that works in REAL life. Go to a gym, get a coach, amd just learn it
'He's boxing weird' Holloway,in his corner during the Poirier rematch which ended his long running win streak. Dustin was definitely influenced by 52 blocks. The fundamental's weren't always fundamental
@@xayer98 u don’t practice no martial arts stop lying in the comment section and u never been in a fight before I see right thru u
First time I and the public at large saw jailhouse rock was in the movie Lethal Weapon. It was one of the styles used by Mel Gibson character Martin Riggs . I was told in the early nineties that 52 was a form of jailhouse. There was also Comstock, Bumrush, Clic clac..I was told back then that jailhouse was to hands what capoeira is to feet . It certainly deserves more serious attention as a contemporary fighting form.
I beg to differ on one point. Boxing IS a Martial Art. 😉👍
I'm saying a combination of boxing and Wing Chun Kung Fu I've been doing that for years without knowing anything about 52 blocks so it's really wonderful to see this video
Lyte & Another Guy Named Mark Hatmaker Who's an Encylopedia on Old School Boxing,Wrestling. I Recommend Them Both here on Yt.
I believe the biggest mistake here is that the commentator refers to 52 as a sport. MMA is a sport. One in which martial arts like, Karate, Judo, Muay Thai, BJJ, and others are needed for a participant to compete in. The key is knowing that martial arts were not originally, and still not a sport but methods of fighting created for warfare and self defense. I would agree that 52 is an evolution of boxing, and a martial art in its own right. But certainly not a sport. Much like......
Bruce Lee would have absolutely loved seeing this style in action, and would have likely integrated parts of it into his ever evolving Jeet Kune Do. It seems to have some similarities with Wing Chun.
Its like boxing and wing chun had a baby
ny times keeps it real love it
tayari casel has an awesome ground fighting system that won him dozens of matches in the early mma days. Its more striking from the ground than chokes. Constellation will try to post some things from him
BJJ, Boxing, Karate, and so on 52 may be a system useful to MMA competitors. Any real martial artist would see this. I would not discredit 52, while I'm sure its not the perfect martial art. Still I can admit it may give a martial artist a new dimension. After all the point is to evolve as a martial artist much like Mas Oyama, or even more so and later on, Bruce Lee.
Could you send us some guys who fight wingchun or Kenpo who do contact?
@kaenjin I agree. Making it a sport in such an early stage would take away much of it's effectiveness.
Highly doubt will be recognized given alot of low blows, it's more a straight up street fighting style then an actual martial art that can be used in a ring since most of the techniques look more like street boxing/illegal boxing moves and moves not allowed in martial arts tournaments
Brings me back.
Awesome! Hey world, recognize and realize...
Awesome -
Id love to see anything youve got.
I was exposed to a style of what i believe is 52, though the practitioner referred to it as Comstock - he was from chicago .. He wsnt about teaching it, but I would spar him, and learn each time.
Id be down to practice with anyone who comes to portland Oregon hit me up.
That is the same thing! In Chicago it’s called jailhouse rock in NY it’s 52 blocks in Jersey it’s 52 ConStyle (convict) etc.....
Close Quarters fighting I love it!!! Peace.
Good assessment. Very effective
Down South we got that in the early 90's training school. As yall say B.C
Alto Shuffle
I'd say it has come a long way....and btw the origins of 52 are found in Angola/Kongo
Everything doesn't have an origin in Africa. 52 was was some can say groomed in prison period. The aryan brotherhood has a certain way they use their version of hand combat and a knife.
wow thanks
52 Blocks Martial Arts Was On The Walls Of Certain Pyramids
Facts i been trying to tell people that forever
Righteous Shadows Dojo I Been There What About You ?
Pics or it didnt happen
@@livefromdablokchain lol you trippin
@@yeetman4953 😂
Black people invented all martial arts as we've seen the ancients depicted on the pyramid walls. So we're always inventive and nobody got more styles than black people. 52 blocks is boxing in vivid color!
this is for qjdaboss, if your interested i live in north carolina and teach the original 52 building blocks you can contack me and we can build from there.
peace
52 is like mauy Thai, kali and boxings long lost cousin 😢
Kinda yeah lol
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Growing up in Brooklyn in the 90s everyone was doing this.
It has a Place now. We just have to get together and fight with it and put it on CZcams it will catch on
If you watch the wayans brothers that's the stanve marlon does.
have you seen rashad evans? pernell whitaker? joe frazier? jack johnson? study boxing! footwork, head movement and blocks are par and parcel of boxing!
RAHMEL VS NAKMEEZY! LETS GET IT!
@Chaxerium Forniem The promoter thought Rahmel was gonna smash me lol
How can they give up what they know not....
Look like the hood rediscovered wing chun - nice
The 52 is the black man art
Im training Fcs Kali and Panantukan and these cover guards are almost the same. Regards
They should
peace that would be an ugly sparring session, seeing that both styles attack the body. As for 52 vs JH, there are a few differences 52 plays more in the street, where JH is for being in close no room. thus the tatics are changed the way you fight in range, as for rock n roll no comment, not sure if that is a real style since the inventor had issues with the group he claimed he got from. 52 is native to the US and Caribbean.
It's native to the U.S.
Sean strickland
I don't know but it seems it has no difference to Keysi fighting systems
look what rashad did to silva the 1st 2 rounds! he couldn'tfind rashad! fighting in a phone booth! i see ou getting tagged by these catz!
The 5% nation is where 52 blocks comes from.
Ummmm no its actually on the pyramids
Its called research try it sometime
@Righteous Shadows Dojo i seen an interview with mr 52 blocks he spoke on it and after i researched it myself i have go thru the archives to find out exactly where
52 me wan learn 52 Style
Oh, really?
Are there any kicks in 52 blocks??? If so I'd love to see 😁😁😁
You can probably use 52 blocks as a set up to incorporate low/mid kicks to create space for a bigger variety of strikes
whats up with glassman, eric tweedy, mother dear those are names that rang bells in the 70s
313 Chester Campbell brought me here
Sensai? You're tha homie I saw on Yahoo Answers???- XD COOL! - :D
@opticannon why do you think mma is evolving? the fighters of today are way better then the fighters of the past.. nuff said
Can I get this in Philadelphia
Thats the problem we show too many ppl things we create instead of keeping it in house!!
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Definitely has some Wing Chun in the 52 block style
I'm.from far rockaway
@jtmsl So long as Bruce Lee is in the past I take great issue with that statement.
There are a set of rules in boxing. His statement made no sense
damn. farisi daniel is getting slim these days
@arikat1
It all makes perfect sense to me. A fighting technique born by need and developed via trial and error. Confuse, strike, defend in no particular order with the goal of overcoming an opponent in an everyday confined enviroment.
This is correct.
Q:It's clear though that it has not been perfected.
A:incorrect this style has been perfected and as perfected as jeet kun do is
Q:In one word, is it defensive or offensive?
A: It's primary objective is defense: 52 BLOCKS not Strikes
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If someone says they this or that is it so? MMA has unhealthy beer belly flabby fighters. The ones that win most of the time has Afrikan roots to connect all their styles together as an organic whole. All others are mechanical. All people has flaws so let the ego withdraw please.
Black wing chun
@KINGTERO8700 Why don't you go down there and tell them exactly that!
You have to know 120 to learn 52 block style.
Not the physical part! I am sure an 85'er that was athletic could be a beast in 52 incorperating it into his fight. However just like ALL other M.A. styles it is a full 360 type thing, right? Mind, Body, Soul/Spirit/E-motion! To FULLY FATHOM the mental side & totality of WHY 52 is what it is i dont think u need to know 120 or be a member of the Nation of G's & E's but, it would HELP highly! Any1 with In-Tune spirituality of SELF could fathom the totality of 52 as a whole.
Since 52 has its roots in the streets of NYC i do believe it probably thrived side by side with the Nation that you speak of! I got K.O.S. in the early 2,000's before i was even a teen. In this particular ERA No1 my age was on that "type time" all the kids my age was on the "Homie Time" but, my resonance with the Nation was 100% on the Knowledge & Wisdom that was presented to me there was NO Flare or Allure that the 80's or even 90's had where "Infamous" dudes in the Neighborhood was championing a righteous way of life, so it made it trendy (The SAME WAY i am saying in my generation this was going on with Blood, Cuz or even King, Patria, Zoe etc.)
My whole point to this is i would hear stories from Older Heads about the 80's & 90's & Godbodies were some of the Illest dudes in the streets with Knuckle games, it kind of went hand in hand at that time!
From my understanding Karate was HEAVY in this time period, there was dojo's ALL Over & Kung Fu Flix were a Sub Culture of its OWN. Because there was MORE Karate Schools open people would gravitate towards Karate but, then not really use much of that art when in Street Fight.
I am Power Rule & some of the Power Rules in those days would literally rock their Karate Gi's as everyday attire (Im SURE dudes from OTHER backrounds might have been on that type time, as well) but, from what i heard that was a NY Power Rule thing.
*P.E.A.C.E. to the G's & E's* & peace to you brotha.
Tipo Chutambo
so regular boxing has nothing on this style im assuming?
cool vid
Very interesting. Quite misleading movements there, you'd have to keep your attention up against someone mastering that technique.
Zab
no offense but isnt the cultural history connects the art as what place it has in history. The best style is the most basic one...first things first for the first people on earth.
This video makes sense to me. Because the practitioners say it born from black prize fighting and not in jail. I know inmates and no way possible could they develop a style so fancy and coordinated. So thank you for your words of enlightenment. And spread the word of this starting from black prizefighters. Dont worry. I will.
52 is specialized for closeqb .. its awesome there. at a distance think TKD or capoeria.. middle - boxing or MThai - or hapkido -
with weapons arnis or kali
groups, systema krav maga or capoeira, - angola palmares...
the ground is ruled by brazilian jujitsu.
@opticannon you're mind is in the past buddy, come talk when you're done watching hidden dragon crouching tiger.. Because you're Obviously still stuck in the past....nuff said
uhhh no, this style has not been perfected, it definitely needs refinement. And it's not necessarily only defensive, it's a combination of the two.
No mames los golpes que estos tipos lanzan se parece a una mezcla de boxeo con tecnicas de puño del karate y taekwondo lo digo porque es muy parecido a los que suelo hacer en los combates al mesclar estos sitemas marciales.
52 is good for a street fight , but against a boxer, you might get knocked out
Yeah I have watched most of them. I think some aspects of this could be used in real fighting, but I also think it has a lot of holes. My problem with these people is that they make some very big claims about it's application to MMA, but don't have any fighters out there proving any of it. Haven't seen anyone in any show Pro or amateur; maybe someone should explain to them that actually fighting is how they can get the recognition they think they deserve.
Blaphtome Rashaad Evans actually claimed it.
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I grew up in New York City. I don't think there's a human being that probably has had more street fights than me.
Judo is a way more effective street fighting style than this. Bulshit
Kickboxing Is effettive in a street fight for self defense ?
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@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed thank you so much i really think i will sign up for a kickboxing or mma class
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🤔 no grappling involved?
Generally grappling isn't wise with razors, knives, and multiple foes in a fight.
prison fighting techniques
@MrTidx90 your mom doesn't stand a chance against me
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