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  • There are many cool places to see in Tennessee. Are you looking for abandoned places in Tennessee? Well, Elkmont Ghost Town is one of them. The Great Smoky Mountain National Park is the most visited in the United States. But at over 522,419 acres some places are a little more hidden from the common tourist eye. This small area has so much Smoky Mountains history. Every house has a different story and even the land around it is full of history. It's a great place to check out and learn a little more about it.
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  • @NickandRachel
    @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +5

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  • @bspoynter
    @bspoynter Před 2 lety +4

    My grandparents built a cabin in Elkmont that was close to the Wonderland Hotel. I was lucky enough to be able to stay in the cabin when I was a kid. I wish the national park would build new cabins and a National Park Hotel in elkmont.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 2 lety

      Well that's awesome thank you for letting us know that! I bet you those were some great memories 🙂 that would be cool but I feel like it would be really Bittersweet to see the old ones go.
      If you haven't already consider subscribing we have a lot more Smoky Mountain content coming. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @KurtColville
    @KurtColville Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you so much for telling the story of these Elkmont homes. The home that you showed at the beginning and end belonged to the Hale family, friends of my grandmother from Knoxville.
    When I was a kid, our family would spend a week each year in August in this cabin, from the late 70s to early 90s. Even then, it was very nearly as simple and rustic as you see here. No heat, no AC, no TV. But endless fun and so many wonderful times tramping along Jake’s Creek, swimming in “Ye Old Swimmin’ Hole,” visiting Cade’s Cove, and hiking up into the Smokies. Very special place.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 4 měsíci +1

      That sounds like an amazing childhood! Really sad that most kids will never experience any of those types of memories of playing outside anymore.
      Where is Ye old swimming hole? Not sure I've heard of that.
      I would have loved to have visited back then! Never got to see it when people were living there.

    • @KurtColville
      @KurtColville Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@NickandRachel Thanks so much for your response. It really is sad that others won’t be able to enjoy the cabins anymore. It was wonderful to see them again in your video; every room brought back such memories. The one room that you decided to avoid where the floor was in poor condition was the room where all of us kids slept.
      The swimming hole was a part of the Little River that had been dammed up (presumably by the Park Service). From our cabin, you would walk down the road (now Elkmont #2 Cemetery Access Rd.), past the rest of the cabins and the clubhouse, where it turns right and sharply downhill, shortly intersecting with the main road (Elkmont Rd.). Right at that T, across the street, there was a gate which led to a path leading back into the woods a bit, opening out into the Little River and the swimming hole. It was a favorite summer spot for the families in the surrounding cabins. If the water was high enough (it usually was), you could even enter just below the dam and go inner tubing down the river.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 4 měsíci +1

      No problem! Appreciate you sharing these stories awesome to hear! They've done a lot of remodeling to The cabins now so pretty much every cabin there you can walk in.
      I'm glad they finally stepped in and did something because they were just really falling apart. At least now when you go back to the park you can go on all the cabins and relive some memories 🙂
      I'll have to check out the swimming hole! Always looking for fun spots in the Smokies

  • @SharingtheRoad
    @SharingtheRoad Před 3 lety +5

    Tennessee really is a beautiful state! I've never heard of Elkmont before, but it's so fun to picture what decrepit old places were like in their Hayday. So cool you guys were able to explore inside too! 😊

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      It's a gorgeous place you should definitely check it out one day if you get the chance! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @bhflute
    @bhflute Před 11 dny +1

    I just went to the smoky mountains and didn’t make it to this part of the park, so thanks for the video! The town I grew up in is now a ghost town, too

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 11 dny

      Well hopefully you get to visit it on your next trip! This section of the park is one of our favorites. Crazy how towns can come and go like that. Only thing left is memories.

  • @AdventureEncounters
    @AdventureEncounters Před 3 lety +3

    I remember you guys stopped here before, but I don't remember you being able to go inside. Tennessee has so much history 😍 Crazy to think they essentially push people out if there homes like this! 👋👋
    - Ashley from Adventure Encounters

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      If you ever get a chance to visit that place definitely go it's really cool to see!

  • @NashPotatoesOutdoorShow
    @NashPotatoesOutdoorShow Před 3 lety +2

    I love the accent...great video guys!

  • @docbrown6550
    @docbrown6550 Před 3 lety +4

    We've been in a lot of those homes, it is interesting that in a lot of them the entryway was for shorter people which leads me to believe these residents were a lot shorter in those days or they just didn't worry about the comfortability of the home that much, more so in Cades Cove. 👍👍💖💖

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah almost every door I have to bend over to get through. I think I think it's a mixture of both.

  • @RoadtrippinwithTakacs
    @RoadtrippinwithTakacs Před 3 lety +2

    I love visiting old ghost towns. This was a cool one. Glad you found the rats nest. 😁 Neat to see the contrast between the 1830s house and the "newer" ones. Well done.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      We really want to visit some of the ones out west! It's definitely a cool place to explore we enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @LukeGeeTravels
    @LukeGeeTravels Před 3 lety +1

    Ghost Towns! Sign me up! Great informational video

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Really cool place if you ever get a chance to visit! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @ExplorationAppalachian
    @ExplorationAppalachian Před 3 lety +1

    No worries on the floors giving on those old homes. We explored every inch of them when we videoed there. The park service has done a great job of adding supports to the floors to keep them from failing any further. Before they owned it though it was a good hike to reach them and it really was truly abandoned deep within the forest.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      We have been pretty cool to see it back then! Thanks for watching 😀

  • @docbrown6550
    @docbrown6550 Před 3 lety +2

    I had read somewhere where these people were allowed to be buried in the cemeteries of their churches on this property when they passed away. I can't be certain but supposedly that's true. Great Video, Thanks, Stay Safe 👍👍💖💖

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Really hope thats true! Glad you enjoyed it 😊

  • @breakheartorchard4761
    @breakheartorchard4761 Před 3 lety +1

    Very cool. Had never heard of it before.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Definitely a cool place to check it out if you're ever in the area! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @samrogers4816
    @samrogers4816 Před rokem +1

    Love your videos. I started following y'all based on a friend's recommendation, someone I've known most of my life, who's known Nick a good portion of his. Thanks for sharing your adventures.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před rokem +1

      Awesome glad you enjoy the videos! Appreciate the support 🙂 who recommended you?

    • @samrogers4816
      @samrogers4816 Před rokem +1

      Linda Bracket. Known her (and John) since high school in the 70s.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před rokem +1

      Oh okay, Yes I know Linda! Been friends with her son for a long time! Well thanks for checking our channel out! We upload every Friday yet 11:00 a.m

  • @BonedaddyToo
    @BonedaddyToo Před 3 lety +1

    Great tour of Elkmont. Legend has it, the place is really supposed to have a few ghost 😀

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Glad you enjoyed the tour we had a good time! If you haven't already consider subscribing we upload content like this weekly. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @woofthebeatenpathadventure3596

    Great article! We hope to visit the ghost town someday as well.

  • @marlyn8864
    @marlyn8864 Před 3 lety +1

    So cool!

  • @projectadventurefit3190
    @projectadventurefit3190 Před 2 lety +1

    This is great! I'll be out shooting video in Tennessee in the next month or so. Thanks for the info!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 2 lety

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @thousandmiles4473
    @thousandmiles4473 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow... awesome 👌💕

  • @OurNationalAdventure
    @OurNationalAdventure Před 3 lety +1

    "Maybe it's not a moon, but a toilet seat" lol. Nice tour around the ghost town! Neat information and ealk about.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      I looked it up after this video and if I remember correctly it stands for Womanhood or something lol I'll have to look it up again. We had a good time exploring there glad you guys enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @jammer1962
    @jammer1962 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻

  • @TheInsaneChef
    @TheInsaneChef Před 3 lety +1

    I noticed you commented on one of my videos, so I came over here to check out what yall do. Good stuff I enjoy your content 👌I subbed

  • @AndyAllOver
    @AndyAllOver Před 3 lety +1

    Love the story and history! Great video👌🏻😎

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Glad you enjoyed the video we had fun making it! Lots of amazing history in the Smokies

  • @hikinganddrone
    @hikinganddrone Před 3 lety +1

    Very cool to explore

  • @TravelswithTommyandLori
    @TravelswithTommyandLori Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! Elkmont is on our list of places to check out!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Oh yeah, this place is definitely a must-see!

  • @BrokenDreamsReborn
    @BrokenDreamsReborn Před 3 lety +1

    We hope to visit this place next time we are in the area! Looks really cool to see and explore! Thanks so much for sharing! ~ Shion and Matthew

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Definitely don't miss out on it what's a cool places to see in that area of the Smokies! If you haven't already consider subscribing we uploaded content like this weekly. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @JustOutnAbout
    @JustOutnAbout Před 3 lety +1

    Seen alot about this place!! As much as we visit the area, we haven't been here. Will have to add it to the list. ~Dawn

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      You should definitely check that place out! We have another video called 6 hidden gems in the Smokies you might want to check that out we go over some pretty cool locations maybe some of them you haven't seen before. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @NeverMetTheGuy
    @NeverMetTheGuy Před 3 lety +1

    Not sure how I've missed this video multiple times...

  • @JulieoftheShire
    @JulieoftheShire Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love your approach! You got me 'from the get' lol

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you! 😂 Hope you get the check out The ghost town if you haven't seen it already!
      Check out some of our other videos you might like them as well 🙂

    • @JulieoftheShire
      @JulieoftheShire Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@NickandRachel we are actually hoping to go to Elkmont tomorrow! Would it be cool to bring our ghost hunting equipment? We did see some of your other videos! Inspiration for future trips!!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@JulieoftheShire there's videos on CZcams of people doing that. Awesome Hope you find some new locations to check out!

  • @getawaywithpam
    @getawaywithpam Před 3 lety +1

    Cool vlog, interesting to see this Ghost town in Tennessee. wish to visit someday!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Glad you enjoy it hope you get the chance to see it one day it's pretty cool!

  • @PFAM5
    @PFAM5 Před 3 lety +1

    Really cool to see the insides of the houses. Definitely want to go there! Great tour!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      You guys should check it out it's really cool to see that's definitely got to be one of our favorite areas in the park! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @SantosChronicles
    @SantosChronicles Před 3 lety +1

    What a great history about this ghost town. You are brave going in, I have seen movies start out that way. A couple going to a ghost town to film a CZcams video. Good to see that they were not vandalized like so many abandoned homes. I'm they didn't lock these places up,. But it is cool to be able to go inside.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah I'm glad the park service is a great job keeping this place up! Hope it's around for many more Generations. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @MeganMoves
    @MeganMoves Před 3 lety +1

    Sweet video! Looks like a great place to visit 🤩

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Really is a cool place to see! Thanks for watching

  • @BeerinBeautifulPlaces
    @BeerinBeautifulPlaces Před 3 lety +1

    Ahhh 😍 love Tennessee!

  • @MarisolsAdventures
    @MarisolsAdventures Před 3 lety +2

    Wow had no idea. U had me at ghost town

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +2

      If you're ever in the area definitely check it out it's really cool! Thanks for watching 🙂

    • @MarisolsAdventures
      @MarisolsAdventures Před 3 lety +1

      @@NickandRachel yeah!! Thank u

  • @RandyPollock
    @RandyPollock Před 3 lety +1

    We plan to visit there in late Oct this year, in fact going to do many of the things you have shown us in your videos. Keep them coming

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Hope you get the chance to make it during peak season! It's extremely crowded but if you come to this side of the park it's not as busy. Glad you enjoy these videos 🙂

  • @DMSAdventures
    @DMSAdventures Před 3 lety +1

    Super cool! Its interesting how some seemed really nice or recently lived in whereas others were worn down and super old looking! Economic differences among the residents or maybe different years they were abandoned? We checked out Fall Creek Falls State Park over this last weekend based on your recommendation! We had a great time! Backpacked one night, stayed in the campgrounds the next, and checked out all the falls before we left. It was pretty rainy so the crowds weren't bad at all!

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      It really was a cool place to see! Some people stayed longer than the others. Awesome glad you guys got to check it out! Hopefully we'll be able to visit there again someday soon we really had a good time there. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @rodneybrown6907
    @rodneybrown6907 Před rokem +1

    Thankfully the park service is preserving this site. We visited last year and really enjoyed. This is not the case in many areas and States due to the real estate value bump due to investors.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před rokem

      Very thankful they are preserving it there's a lot of history there and it needs to be protected. Thanks for watching!

    • @GW-gz8jh
      @GW-gz8jh Před 6 dny

      @@rodneybrown6907 they demolished (or let nature demolish) the vast majority of the community.) They salvaged very few cabins and only in one area of Elkmont

  • @linhandcalvin7109
    @linhandcalvin7109 Před 3 lety +1

    So cool! We have a ghost town in California here, too. Love it! ❤ liked and subbed

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      We would love to visit the ghost towns out west they look beautiful! Thanks for watching and subscribing 😀

    • @linhandcalvin7109
      @linhandcalvin7109 Před 3 lety

      @@NickandRachel yes. 💕

  • @armilayt
    @armilayt Před 3 lety +1

    Such a beautiful town to be abandoned.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Definitely an awesome place to check out! Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @pablol5472
    @pablol5472 Před 3 lety +1

    Thnak you for showing me around. Do you think 30 minutes is enough for a QUICK tour of Elkmont and a few of its cabins?

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Your welcome! If you're really quick about it I guess you could. Definitely check out our 6 hidden gems in the Smokies video because there's some other areas around there you need to check out if you're going. If you haven't already consider subscribing we upload content weekly. Thanks for watching 😀

  • @AlainStewart
    @AlainStewart Před 3 lety +1

    That's cool. Like you said, would be great to see the houses back in the day. Did you see any ghosts?

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      Oh yeah, I would love to seen it back then! No ghost lol Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @R.I.P.
    @R.I.P. Před rokem +1

    Wish I could live there

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před rokem +1

      I'm actually talked to some people who have lived there they said it was awesome!

  • @titanpreparedness
    @titanpreparedness Před 3 lety +1

    Another awesome place i didnt know about. I really suprised they dont have a homeless problem in this area. I mean some of those homes are nicer than the ones in my town

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      It's definitely an awesome area in the park one of our favorites! The park rangers do a great job by keeping up the park. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @SantosChronicles
    @SantosChronicles Před 3 lety +1

    How often do you guys go there? You mentioned how this is in Oct. And last time I spoke with you, you were there in April also It's not a moon, it's a toilet seat 🤣

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      We try to go to the Smokies a couple of times a year. When we do go we have everything mapped out that we're doing so we can make the most of the trip. 🤣😅

  • @JamesRobertSmith
    @JamesRobertSmith Před 3 lety +2

    The first time I visited the GSMNP a few of the houses there still had original owners who used them. There's nothing really unique or unusual about them. They were just vacation homes tossed up by middle class people from cities accessible to the area. No different than the cabins and townhomes that crowd in the modern Park boundaries and make for the horrible traffic you have to suffer through to get to the trails and back country. I've never understood the interest in Elkmont village except for people's fascination with rotting old houses.

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety +1

      Would have been cool to see back then! I think most people just think it's interesting seeing and abandon Street full of old houses like that
      And also the history is pretty crazy as well. Thanks for watching!

  • @UrfavK1913
    @UrfavK1913 Před 3 lety +1

    I heard that on the out houses. The half moon means for the women

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 3 lety

      I heard something along that about fertility.

  • @clarenceblair429
    @clarenceblair429 Před 5 měsíci

    Elkmont is not a ghost town . It was a vacation destination for some people from the knoxville area ,during the depression .you can buy a very informative book at the visitors center on the history of elkmont .

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes we actually go over a lot of the history in this video and the many others we made in the daisy town

  • @VenkateshVlogs2728
    @VenkateshVlogs2728 Před 3 lety +1

    Ghost 👻 🏠?

  • @azmikhamis6483
    @azmikhamis6483 Před 7 měsíci

    Do we have water there ???

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před 7 měsíci

      I mean the Little River runs right beside it.

  • @peggymcqueary9165
    @peggymcqueary9165 Před rokem +1

    It's a shame how the federal government took these ppls land that had lived here all their lives.. what's sad is they can come in and say this land is beautiful and needs to be a national forest.. they make that possible by taking these ppls land ,like it or not in the name of a national forest... Then can turn it into a rich ppls get away.. vacationers haven, with country club.... What happened to the ppl you ran off from their land, in the name of making it a national park... My family was from here

    • @NickandRachel
      @NickandRachel  Před rokem

      It is sad! From what I understand though a lot of these people lived there until they died and then the national park took over. They lived their rent-free as well.
      We definitely could do with less government in our lives. But I do appreciate them saving the national parks and National Forest.
      These places deserved to be protected and not have people trampling all over the place all the time or cutting down the forest. The Smokies is such a unique place It's the most biodiverse place in the US so it definitely deserves protection and I'm glad that no one is allowed to live there now just because of that. If they were the entire park would have been gone and torn down years ago.