Intel, you’re doing it wrong. - Intel NUC 12 Review
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Intel’s NUC’s are getting good - but at what cost? We’re taking a deep dive into the 12th Gen NUC Extreme to find out.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:52 Humble beginnings
1:43 EXTREME!
2:25 12th Gen
3:33 Under the hood
4:19 Stealth GPU
5:27 Inside the Compute Unit
7:00 Even deeper
8:00 Paste Piracy
8:40 12900K Tuning
11:05 Old vs New - Věda a technologie
Had me at the stealth Alchemist GPU-hopefully that would be uncloaked soon.
Everyone should subscribe to the commenter haha. Blow up their channel for no reason!
Edit: Actually their content is amazing
You didn't see it because you are unworthy. Only if you were worthy enough because I saw the whole thing in its full glory in this video . But godspeed to you ig
@@BlazingBlakesGaming I actually release garbage on my channel once every decade as a hobby-unless you're joking or being sarcastic, I fail to see why my content is "amazing."
@@vedaryan334 no biggie, us low-level peasants will be able to bask in its glory in due time.
Honestly I am so excited to see the new gpus from intel
I'm so dissappointed that they put "Paste Piracy" instead of "Paste Privateer"
Sadly, not many got the history joke... Time to drown my sadness in Captain Kidd's Punch
@@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589 Written History made an adaptation of Wing Commander?
"Reusing thermal paste is the exact same thing as piracy. Literally the exact same thing. Ppl will still do it and I've been guilty of it at times, but we just need to be aware of the impact- LS"
@@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589 while it is a history joke, it's more specifically a reference to WAN Show from a few weeks back
Just a question:
Is the gravity in Canada somehow much stronger than everywhere else? Because you guys seem to (almost) drop expensive tech quite frequently
Naaa that's just Linus
@@39zack Wow, Linus isn't that heavy...
Ironically enough the place with thr least gravity on the surface of Earth is located in Canada.
It’s part of the joke
easy to be careless when you have the money to replace any of it
4:03 my old Thermaltake Tsunami case had a 90mm side fan. The stock black fan replaced with a cool UV blue 92mm fan was close, but not quite an exact fit. The screws were never flat, they had to be angled.
@Amanda Diaz ad
I think 90mil fans are like 200 mil fans where everybody has a slightly different interpretation. only 120 and 14 are really standardized
I'm starting to really enjoy the new thing you're doing with extra people contributing to the videos. It really shows how y'all work a team.
Intel NUCs have always been a weird fixation for me. They have a value proposition that just never makes sense, but that makes it even more tantalizing
Space / quiet (at least for a typical NUC), if you value SPACE they are very good.. There are AMD alternatives and generics out there but I broke down and purchased one at the slight premium and I am very happy it sits on a small shelf and runs server stuff for my home.. Tin
The engineering is so creative that I kinda want to pick one.... but its reaaaally difficult to justify the price
@@ArchusKanzaki the justification is the Form factor. If you don't need small Form factor no matter what a SFF build is not going to be cost/feature effective
They are kinda like vaio or alienware
@@verqu3450 Except with a product that while seeming unreasonably expensive, is of an impressive standard of quality and innovation.
Its really good to see that intel is embracing the right to repair in these compact pc's unlike apple who glue's everything together
@Telegram only👉@LinusTechTips0 omg omg omg SHUT UP BRUV STUPID BOT
Uh do u know if the nuc 12 comes with a dedicated gpu or not
@@PZ-VH why would it be able to comfortably game at 4K without a dgpu and what kind of igpu would be able to do that
@@user-rh7pk7ys6m For real like what was his point? 😭
@@PZ-VH it’s right there wthin the first 30 seconds wtf do u mean
I'm confused, what's the "doing it wrong" part? I don't see anything in this video to convince me that there's something wrong with this system. Even the price proposition doesn't appear to be too bad, which is typically the weakest point for most mini-pc's.
Click bait.
Welcome to CZcams !
Linus is an intel shill wouldn't be surprised if Intel actually sponsored this video...it's click bait he wants you to think he's questioning intel but it's actually an ad for intel the whole video is linus advertising the nuc as a super dooper amazing great absolutely packing top tier tech inside lmao i gotta stop watching linus this guy just too much at this point.
Yeup. Why I disliked the video.
@@destinacecilia4422 Don't know how he would be an Intel shill. He has seemed quite positive about AMD while criticising Intel a lot during the heights of Ryzen's dominance.
2:22 was chilling and then almost had a heart attack 😅
So, I don't understand the title of the video. This is an awesome machine and i hear almost nothing but praise in the video. The video did lack some gaming performance stats, how are the fps on this thing?
If I am not mistaken, the joke is that every other company that offers some mini-workstation like PC is both overpriced and has poor specs.
So compared to the competition; they are doing it wrong.
It is basically a dig at everyone else.
Yeah, you kinda missed an important point. The wohole point of the modular design is that you can reuse the backplane/case and pop a new compute element in it to upgrade. So, are those compute elements sold separately? Or can you even use the 12. gen module on the backplane of the 11. gen? You literally had them side by side and not tried it. If it is not possible why bother to make this design at all? Would be nice if you could make a follow up where this question gets answered.
Unfortunately they missed the most important part: Upgrading a previous model with the newer compute element. Is it financially competitive when comparing it against a normal PC upgrade? Is the older power supply powerful enough? Can you reuse all previous M.2 SSDs (except for one). Can you sell or make REAL use of the old compute element (I highly doubt that!).
@SOUL SEEKER Yeah, but in what new case, if you bought this unit as your first? The form factor and special cables are still proprietary, aren't they? After all I think this is just fancy marketing and you'll never actually upgrade that compute unit..
The engireering looks amazing! I have an older gen NUC and I am very impressed by Intel's continuing commitment to this line!
0:50 considering how much excitement there was i hoped to see the original box the first nuc came in to be shown and to be opened...
for those that don't know, go look it up :D
Here a cideo of Linus unboxing the first NUC for those who wanna look it up- czcams.com/video/xL4MX-0V8l4/video.html
I'm really interested in the i7 version. The product page on Intel's website says it's launched, but neither Amazon nor Newegg has it even listed.
I love how different editors leave a different feel in the videos.
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. How is Intel doing it wrong?
Mainly a clickbait, but also a shade thrown at Apple for popularizing unrepairable design where everything is soldered on (Mac mini & Mac Studio), while Intel is offering a fully modular PC this size, hence “doing it wrong”
This should be pinned lol
I think its mostly cause they're using a "compute unit" isntead of just a normal motherboard
When you take account the size of the machine the price proposition of these NUCs is actually really good. Most mini itx rigs require cases in the hundreds of dollars. Really if space is at a premium there is no better solution, especially if you need 10 gig networking.
Mac studio is better than cheaper (when configured as M1 MAX)
I bought a complete NUC12 Extreme + Graphic Card = $3,750. It is pricy but works real well with heavy software such as Solidworks and Mastercam. This unit can handle 200+ files working at the same assembly.
Very amazing unit. I get what I paid for.
I use this system to do some other side jobs and it paid off itself just within 1 month of work.
The Intel NUCS design coupled with it's specs always caught my eye and always wanted them but cannot due to price. The NUCs is one of Intel's best creations. Kudos to them.
Cheaper ones on special work well instead of under powered ARM SBCs. Pi or equiv cluster is great for tinkering, find the NUC for not much more, simpler ;)
@@NicholasOrr I understand your suggestion. But you can't exactly play Elden Ring or triple A games on a PI or ARM equivalent.
@@ze-ph9774 ha - totally - yeah as a primary device NUC doesn't do well for budget/value builds ;)
Just in time, with the Mac Studio. A head to head comparison video would be really interesting to see
You read my mind bro
@Photo Bunny What is the difference? Something like..one of them is a refrigerator and another one is an oven? No..both of them are pc. Can't you use that gaming pc as your so called workstation? Yes you can and you can do it as much as you want.But i am sure that you can't use that "workstation" for gaming..if you ever want to🙂 and another thing..Mac Studio costs way more than that NUC for no reason.
@@nahidsarker69 you are subscribed to this channel. You know the difference between gaming CPUs, storage and GPUs vs workstation variants of those components.
@Photo Bunny hardly a, workstation more like a nettop it has no dedicated gpu
@Photo Bunny?
9:48 are we just going to brush over the 670 point single core reduction from your overclock?
The thermal engineering in this NUC thingy is awesome! We should learn from this. Maybe there is a way to improve cooling in standard desktop PCs too using PCI slots!
I was wondering what would happen if you swapped the compute modules between the two chassis. Would they work? Is it possible to upgrade just the compute module if you have the last gen NUC?
I love the compute module idea, so compact, reminds me of the old pentium 2
It's funny we have one of those literally sitting in a kitchen drawer from one of my Dad's old machines.
Didn’t know there’s were small windows pcs like these, all I kept seeing is Mac mini and now the Mac studio. Glad these windows pcs exists and hope to see more videos. I use windows for specific app use cases so can’t go for MacOS.
But they aren't small enough compared to mac studio (the smallest one that linus showed is quite weak for a good ride).
I think Intel still needs to work on power efficiency.
@@kartikeypandey8957 If Intel went with all integrated they could probably get down to a similarish form factor but these devices are still designed with some modularity in mind as demonstrated here. Apple is able to get away with it because they're forcing everyone into their ecosystem whereas the rest of the pc market is mostly able to swap back and forth/use off shelf parts.
Just google mini pcs. There are many small PCs is different price classes.
@@matthewd9356 I am actually pointing out intel's power to performance ratio , nothing else. Amd is doing better in this department.
@@matthewd9356 there are smaller PCs about the same size as a Mac Mini, but have mostly soldered in components and can’t match the performance of Apples.
These seem like great alternatives for things like the NZXT H1 and Corsair One for something of a prebuilt SFF rig. Granted this is an apples to bananas to oranges comparison, but when it comes to SFF machines we need more options and this seems like an awesome addition for the consumer to pick from.
I love the BUY IT HERE links in the description, which link to a unavailable PC, and a sold out Graphics card.
I thought last year it was pretty cool that you can change and upgrade the compute unit but I'm kind of disappointed they made a whole new enclosure. It feels like a loss since I figured Intel was taking a step in making some kind of waste reduction with swappable parts. I'm even more disappointed that Linus didn't swap the compute units and see if they would work in the other enclosure. Last year I felt like the whole point was you'll be able to buy newer computer units separately and just upgrade what you need.
It turns out that most people don't upgrade their computers at all; some may add a little RAM or an extra drive, and just about nobody will swap out the GPU or CPU. I mean, _we_ do, but we're real enthusiasts. Pretty much the same 30 years ago.
The new enclosure have some upgrade, but I don't think its mandatory to upgrade the enclosure. Pretty weird that they do not try to confirm it though
@@UncleKennysPlace really? I never felt the need to swap out my CPU.
I want to swap out just about everything else when Lovelace and RDNA 3 comes out, so i will be building a whole new computer, but swapping out anything regularly seems strange, you either have enough performance or to little. and if you have to little, it'll rarely be just one part, and once you upgraded you should be good for at least 4 years.
I doubt that you will ever be able to actually buy compute elements seperately
@@Ocastia depends how long your upgrade cycle is and what your use case is. i have a 4690k and sure it's nowhere near any of the 12th gen stuff or ryzen 5000-series, but my gtx970 is what's holding me back the most. a gpu upgrade would make sense while saving for the rest of the pc. i also added an nvme drive last year to improve game load times and texture streaming in cyberpunk
imo cpu upgrades are more for when you have a longlasting platform (eg ryzen's 450 motherboards) and want a performance uplift, or if you need to save a buck and can grab a lower tier cpu for your new build with the intention of upgrading in a few months
It’s been a while since the last no compromises PC on LTT, although this one is a pre-built one.
My research institute used NUCs as office PCs. They just set up one central server with remote desktops and you can work from any PC in the building just by logging into your account. Pretty neat.
Damn, those ad transitions are still soooo good!
I wonder if the 12 compute unit would work in the 11 gen case? and would the 4th nvme slot work?
wasn one of the points of the "compute unit" for upgradability?
I can confirm yes. It does work as that's Intel's plan to make the case future proof and the commute units to be as well. - I've asked Intel about this very question and a guy called Norman from Intel confirmed it does work.
The NUCs are extremly attractive to me in the Design-Performance-Price Combo, even though I don't need any of it.
My Uncle may like these, though a DGPU probably be more his fit.
Note about the small FF NUCs like the little one he showed us about a minute in: I work for an MSP and for a few years, those were our default everyday PCs. If the user didn't need a GPU, they got a NUC. We stopped selling them about a year ago, though; we found that the life expectancy was far less than four years and lots of them actually failed in less than two years. They also have a minimal "depot" warranty (one year exchange or refund for factory defects). We switched to Dell OptiPlex Micros because they are more robust, more flexible, and have a vastly better warranty option with Pro Support Plus (three years of next-day repair or fast replacement for literally anything if you chose the accidental damage option). Our sales are all to managed customers, so I have no financial incentive to plug Dell here; their stuff is pretty good and the prices are reasonable.
These small NUCs are probably find for a home user who only requires an hour or two a day, but for business users who use them eight hours a day and never shut them off, they are not a good choice.
I have two of the intel nucs that look a little like a mini mac, love them but they always sound so loud. they said this new nuc model is very quiet in the video but i wonder how that holds up when compiling stuff or running capture
12:15 No joke, I was just virtually building a PC with the same CPU and similar specs just yesterday to get a feel for modern desktop pricing. Price came to ~$2,000. A good chunk of that was a $500 graphics card, so with everything else added together (form factor, warranty, etc.) I totally believe this would be worth getting instead of building my own from scratch.
@@arbiya4346 LMAO
OK, one thing LTT has got to change, is the abrupt changing of the titles on the videos, and also what is Intel doing wrong? I didn't see anything wrong with it in the video, so why change the title?
Would love to see Intel making a custom CPU+GPU SoC, sound like a perfect use case for this. They might be able to shrink the system a lot more when both the CPU and GPU share the same board and the same cooling solution.
Also surpringly, price isn't crazy at all. I think I've spent just about that much on the spec alone - without factoring in case, fans and PSU
dont say that!
Can you purchase the compute module separately to upgrade a ghost canyon nuc?
Is the memory upgradeable or is it soldered?
You can see the memory is sodimm ddr4, so it's not soldered
Looks exciting over the old NUC being able to tune the CPU. Shame the cooler for the processor isn't a little larger.
It actually is larger in size - the removal of one of the M.2 slots was needed for the larger IHS of a socketed CPU. -CW
Would love to see this vs the mac studio when yall get it c:
I use an older NUC as a home entertainment system. Added an IR remote/keyboard and it's perfect. I'm thinking about replacing my full tower with a new NUC when I upgrade to win 11 this year. Any feedback on newer EGPU with NUC?
Is the compute module compatible with the previous generation nuc? It would be a neat way to future proof those by selling compute modules with new sockets in the future.
That's certainly very impressive tech, but according the web site it's 14.1 x 7.4 x 4.7", while Velka-7 (where you can fit the same CPU or many others which Mini-ITX supports) is 11.9 x 7.0 x 4.4", smaller in literally EVERY dimension. And it support SFX PSU, etc.
but this can fit a slightly longer gpu
I wish I could throw one of those compute elements into a PCIe slot in my PC to run game servers, but I'd imagine it'd push power out of the connector instead of vice-versa and break stuff.
Or a arm based system in pcie to function like server
so are they seeling the new compute unit as a standalone for upgrading old ones?
Can the compute module portion for the new version slot into the case for the old version? Do they sell it separately?
Intel: *gives each LMG employee 5k to spend*
Also LMG: "Intel, you're doing it wrong!"
Don't forget to compare the new Mac Studio and these lol
Hi. I just built a gaming pc and thank you for literally 75% of all my pc knowledge. I love the channel, plz keep it going!
I'm about to build a pc for editing and relate. Hope your gaming gaming rig rips 🤙
Question- What would be the best nuc to run home security software and video storage?
hey linus, so recently about a month ago, i started researching pc and found out about bloatware. i have a 9 year old imac with bloatware and i’m wondering whether getting uninstallers for bloatware would really make a difference
I so would've got one of these but the phantom canyon nuc is small enough to Vesa mount onto the back of your monitor so it looks like nothing is on the desk! That combined with nice cable routing/hiding makes for a ridiculously clean look. It's just my backup pc so it has more than enough performance for that.
Maxing out Elden Ring on my Phantom Canyon... I had to wait a LOT longer than expected for it (arrived last year about 3 months too late), but I love the form factor. Ridiculously small, quiet, and cool for its output.
@@kevinhadap6463 hah, same here. I literally got mine at the very end of last year.
i honestly have no idea why Intel didn't just invert the compute element, this isn't something they need to stick to PCIe conformity on you should have the back of the compute element against the back of the GPU pulling in cool air from either side
Ye it is kinda strange
drives me crazy every time i see these things shown off lol, intel engineers cant figure out how to flip a pcb
At that point it's basically a Dan AT but locked to Intel
Howdy Linus... Wanted to know, what RTX card did you fit into the box during this demo? It looks like I've only got 1.7in (44mm) of clearance width-wise and I have to return the 3070Ti I purchased. If you (or someone in the comments) could recommend a different card that fits that would be awesome. Currently I've been looking all over and can't seem to find anything that small despsite the whole pitch of this system is that it can fit 12 inch RTX's... Thanks in advance.
Would've been nice to see network benchmarks in uni and bi-directional regards to see how close to line-rate that 10gig NIC can realistically go. Considering it's not an intel IC, it makes me wonder if it would under-perform vs beefcake 10gig NICs.
im soo glad to see 10g becoming more common. hopefully soon we will find it on the avarage motherboard and not just the enthusiast tier.
Too look at these “small” boxes and then to realise what apple has done with Mac studio is just insane.
Really weird comparison, but okay: Yes, the M1 is awesome... it's not a replacement for an RTX 3080, though, which is what makes this box so "big": The full size GPU.
@@MR-vg7yn That's exactly what I meant actually, with the only exception of gamers, the M1 ultra/max will most probably outshine anything a PC can do, be it with a 3080. Especially for creative professionals.
The idea that they achieved that in such small footprint is insane to me.
@@yashonagori Looking at benchmarks of a 32 GPU core M1 Max that put it somewhere in the neighborhood of a mobile 1660 for general use, I _really_ doubt the 64 GPU core version in the M1 Ultra will be anywhere close to a full-sized RTX 3080 in general. Yes, there will probably be some native Mac applications where the M1 will be around that level of performance, but in general? No, it won't be, sorry.
And that's not an issue really: The M1 is really power-efficient and, therefore, really fast for a small package.
It's a great piece of silicon... but just like every other great piece of silicon before it, it's not the next Messiah and it's not a miracle.
Just realistically compare the Mac Studio to the NUC shown here: The Mac Studio is around 3.7 litres in volume, the NUC here is around 7.6 litres. Yes, the NUC is roughly double the volume. But just swap out the full size GPU used here for a smaller, less powerful one and you could realistically bring that thing down significantly in size. You probably won't reach 3.7 litres, but as a trade-off, you're still using exchangeable, standard parts.
As I said: The M1 is awesome, but it's not a miracle.
These claims that the next Mac will render "normal" PCs obsolete are nothing new, either... and like every other time before, they're just unrealistic, sorry.
The Mac Studio will realistically set you back around five grand without peripherals. Do you have any idea what kind of PC you can buy for that, even with the currently insane prices? Best of all, that PC is actually upgradable in a meaningful way.
And even ignoring price: To actually get the most out of that expensive hardware, you will have to move into Apple's own walled garden. That means, no matter how miraculous the M1 Ultra ends up being, it will not "outshine anything a PC can do".
That's just not realistic.
@@MR-vg7yn silicon*
@@andreewert6576 All these people putting random pieces of rubber in their pcs...
Hi LTT, Any chance of a video on what the best creator monitor is to pair with the mac studio?
Looking at one of the major features of this range - a replaceable compute unit - can you buy just the new compute unit and put it in the older case? Do they even sell them separately?
If Apple’s claims on their M1 Ultra are true, this will be a large Gaming PC!
Apple doesn't care about gaming. Lol.
every apple claim is based on cherry picked scenarios for productivity
@@allan_archie what does that have to do with anything? He’s saying that M1 is insanely powerful and small. Smaller than this
MacOS barely supports a game library. Don't try and force them into our space please.
Apple claims have never been true, unless you count the features that they remove.
would be cool if there were different front panels. i'd love to own a compact PC without a cringy edgelord RGB skull so prominently placed on the front
Glass panels and shiny leds are awesome, but i am all mesh all the time now. Don't even have to worry about thermals any more. It makes such a huge difference. I can see why they went that route.
might not be able to put an active m.2 drive in that bottom bay, but you COULD use it as cold storage, like a usb key or SD card etc as a backup for boot/restore... maybe keep something like a backup ubikey in there too or a HW crypto waller if you're into that stuff.
“No compromises”
Except the one that has existed since the NUC line’s introduction, you can’t upgrade the thing without shelling out another 1k
its smol for sure
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I've been looking for a low profile rig for a tiny guest office in my tiny guest bedroom, and this has BIG potential.
It's a shame that you can't plug those compute modules into a regular PC and have additional processing power (maybe not to access the hardware directly but having fast communication with it throug the PCI instead of a network card).. it would be so useful for software development to run docker or VMs..
This is what happens when engineers are allowed to go crazy
You okay there, LTT? This video seems unusually... Incoherent? You didn't even put your video intro in it. The transition from the Linus segment to the Alex segment just felt weird. Title doesn't match the content?
I wonder how the subtitles are made. This video had "feature parity" captioned as "feature parody"; another video of LTT had "illuminate" as "eliminate"; and these 2 are not the only ones I've seen, just the freshest in my memory
Will you do a comparison between the 12th gen nuc with a 3080 and the Mac Studio with an M1 ultra?
Intel NUCs have always been a great innovation with a lot of appeal, but their top-spec pricing never seems to make sense, even within the ultra compact ITX niche.
They're really interesting devices, but I wish they replaced that ugly skull with something else
Love the technical deep view, good work.
The cooling for that small of a case is pretty amazing. It’s surprising that they can do that but still have poor heat sinks that come with the CPU.
2:50 I guess this was recorded before the studio Mac was showcased in the Apple event. Yes obviously the Mac doesn’t support discrete graphics but the M1 ultra is surely competitive or better even then a 3070 class card
Ahahha no M1 sucks it can't game bruh it's no where near power 9f rtx 3070
"No Compromises"
Proceeds to have a massive compromise by only having 65W max. But I guess when Intel is paying y'all, you'll say anything.
"no compromises" *$* exists.
can you upgrade the old nuc with a new motherboard (compute element or whatever its called)?
I still like that old form factor. I’m always buying those things off of Amazon. They’re about 300 bucks or whatever for a little i3 something or other with 16 gigs of RAM etc. Totally enough for little office computers
I’d say most all traveling editors would prefer a new MacBook Pro so they don’t have to lug around a desktop , monitor and peripherals. The MacBook Pro offers outstanding performance and maintains it all on battery. Much better for travel
Something like that might be great for video game streaming. Some streamers use dual PCs, and if the game PC is separate, you can install its own version of Windows and it won't show your main PC's notifications
This thing would be fantastic for on the go editing. I have yet to find a laptop I love.
Nucs? Wow maybe my new engineering rig...
I guess we’ll see if mac studio with m1 ultra can do any gaming, that’d be great competition in the SFF space (and a veeerrrryyy interesting video)
Looks like the CPU intake is going to pull hot GPU exhaust air in but I guess that depends on the surroundings and if the GPU exhaust air can circulate freely
Hi I have the small nuc that Linus holds(not the gaming one) but the discontinued one with one USB in front.I put 8gig ram and a 128 SSD for now its playing valorant better than I thought but I wanna know If there's anyway I can take this motherboard out and put into a mini itx case with better cooling options, or is there something I can do with it as is to improve cooling?
I've always been a PC guy but truth be told the new M1 Ultra and whatever Apple releases soon makes this nothing compared to it
Except it's an apple so you will be paying 3x more for fractionally better performance and be stuck using Apple OS and never able to upgrade it...
But there's a sucker born every minute. I think that's actually Apple's slogan.
@@twizz420 Get a life. I didn't mention anything about price or that I would get their products. You can't deny that the new M1 is impressive. Even graphics wise, 3090 equivalent performance for 1/3 of the energy consumption
@@jonascarlsson3 I think you missed the part about at 60W you see 90% better performance...........in cherry picked applications. Apple are never honest about performance, in any release, I doubt they'll start now.
@@twizz420 come on no reason to be throwing around insults. Apple is class leading in integrated graphics. Apple gears their products for professional work. Also their you can very easily run Linux the mac. So your upgrade path is just wrong.
@@jonascarlsson3 impressive at what cost? Not talking about money, just look at the M1 ultra die and you will see the comparison is nonsense. Almost at a size of a Xeon chip, Apple wasted too much silicon just to make a niche device that may only barely match what is currently on the market. And it's not the worst part, that ridiculously big chip will quickly become e-waste, crapple likes to glue everything in so you have to throw the whole thing when one thing got broken. They don't care about shortages, even the environment is not their concern.
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@@LetsGetPolitical_69 Cheers my dude, I had never opened a LTT video with no comments.
Can the powersupply handle the baseline hardware plus the 3080 TI Linus installs in the NUC 12?
i bet that things heavy. i was amazed at the weight of my 12l sff build when i put the panels on and picked it up. its tiny, but i think i threw my back out carrying it to my desk.
Does the "You're doing it wrong" title actually have anything to do with the video or is it just shameless clickbait? Doesn't seem to reflect the video at all...
well, you can say it's a no K-ompromise
(get it no i9-12900k)
Congrats on getting the heart dood, also, don’t edit your comment, or CZcams will remove the heart automatically
It would be really cool if there would be a way to integrate an display output through the PCIE gen 5 link, for the thunderbolt ports on the MB. a 16x link should have enough bandwidth to not limit the GPU.
why would u want a gen5 link for display output?
I’ve got an 11th gen NUC. It has this weird sleep/wake issue where the fans will ramp to 100% and the display will just stay off. So frustrating.
Have taken the entire thing apart to check for anything loose/unseated. Have reinstalled Windows twice, have updated everything I can think of, have tried multiple displays/cables/display out ports… Just keeps happening.
Hey, Linus! What was the most expensive stuff, what you broke by pushing it up, or drop it?
You are one of my favorite channels! 🥰 Maybe you can give advice..... I bought this PC and installed 3080 TI. But I am thinking about expanding, as I will do the rendering. So after investigating, I found that this little monster can also pull the RTX 3090 TURBO. And now I wonder if I can use the 3080 in Rezer Core X Chroma as an additional card for GPU rendering, because the i9 12900 has 20 PCI-E lines and is TH4. However, will two cards work in 8x mode??? This is a great idea for video! and I think many people like me will appreciate it) I will be very grateful for the advice)
I was watching this around the same time as the most recent Veritasium video on Mythic, which is an analog compute unit. It could be a cool idea to make a video about how an analog computational unit work and benchmark it against traditional processors
is that slot for the wifi m.2 a normal one? could you remove the wifi card and put an ssd in that size in there?
These things have such potential. Everyone usually gets atleast a new motherboard CPU and heatsink with an upgrade, so everything being part of this tight single unit package is really cool. The issue is that when it comes time to upgrade in 4 or 5 years they will probably completely change the form factor or not even offer these anymore.