CWT (who makes top end PSUs for multiple brands includinf Thermaltake) have better budget PSUs than many mid end things you find in the market. My Thermtake TR2 700 lasted way longer than my Seasonic Platinum 3 for a reason. My Seasonic also took 2 HDDs with it 5 years ago
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 each transference off die, or to system memory often requires going to the cpu, and induces a latency penalty, as the drive fills up some nvme drives without cache go from 1000mb read speeds down to near hard drive levels of proformance Edit: I just like to err on the side of caution and most of the higher proformance drives are cached drives anyways and can cost the same, I have a list I found from reddit with hard details like, dram cache speed, and total memory streams, iops ect
@@RadarLeon right ofc, but for peeps on a budget, nvme dramless isnt bad. my current laptop has a wd sn850x and compared to the old pm991a that I had, the difference isnt that much noticable. load times are about the same, they are less (bc my nvme slot is gen3), but not much of a decrease. Again, budget build = some sort of compromise.
@@RadarLeon 670p is also a QLC drive so it has reduced endurance. Good budget drives now are basically TLC and DRAMless like the WD SN770 (which tbf is a weird drive and is probably closer to a high end drive), or a QLC drive with DRAM like the 670p. It's also PCIE Gen 3 only. If it was a SATA or an external enclosure situation, I would never recommend a dramless ssd, but in a desktop application, its not as much of a downside as you think. My comments have been getting kind of circular but basically DRAM with QLC and DRAMless TLC NVME (Specifically NVME, not SATA) SSDs are about the same. Each has a bit of a tradeoff with latency or durability. You realistically can't go wrong in either situation. Tldr; if you are on a budget, be patient/lucky and find a sale for a good drive (I got a 1 TB WD SN850X for around $60), you will be equally fine getting a DRAM QLC drive or a TLC DRamless drive as long as it is NVME.
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 I understand your comment, regardless of hbm acess using system memory without onboard cache most of these drives become closer to the proformance of a hard drive at 90% or more capacity, unless your purposely refuse to use more than 80% of your drive. That being said drives like the SN850x have been fairly affordable lately and it's a very nice drive. And I believe your main os should always be a cached drive. A secondary ssd being cacheless is fine, proformance today vs a year from now when people start to wonder why their $500-2000 pc is running slow because they wanted to save $5-10 dollars
The cooler does actually look cool to me, ill use it in my next build, and if it cools 13th gen i5 it must cool an 5600X. And it fits the white aestethic i picked out
You could also get the 5600 non X and spray paint the stock cooler to get the white aesthetic, would work the same and be $20 cheaper + the money you're saving with the 5600
@@yeejay6396 he probably meant just spraying the circular shroud itself. i saw a white spray painted amd wraith cooler in one of craterhq aka joey delgado's videos and it looks awesome
I appreciate that you being good budget pc advice to the masses, and give people honest and realistic recommendations on what parts they actually need. And you do so without caring if they actually make a purchase from you.
@@user-ec2lh6oj3l I notice Ryzen does pretty good with just the stock coolers, but for Intel CPUs a better fan is a must. With the stock fan At idle i was getting 160f/71c, but after switching out I get 127f/52c under 100% load. Huge improvement.
@Marcel Regex DRAMless SSDs have gone a long way with HMB, the cheaper Silicon Power A60 reaches 50/150MB 4Ks which is miles better than the 1/1MB 4Ks _actual HDDs_ are getting lol. Of course with the P34A80 with DRAM being only $4-5 more expensive, if you have room in your budget then choose that instead, but please don't give up a better SSD or better quality PSU just because DRAM good HMB bad.
@@abhimaanmayadam5713Yep and it also depends what you're using it for. I found an article with charts showing my WD SN570 will load games faster than similarly priced Crucial and Samsung drives however it has lower sustained write speed so it's never recommended by most people. I'm only using it for gaming on a laptop though so sustained write speed isn't important to me. If you or anyone else is willing to answer I'd like to ask a few questions. If only using a M.2 NVME SSD for gaming on a laptop is there any other main factor i should consider? Will dRAM make a difference in gaming?
Bro aint lying about the ssds😂 right now they are on sale for $20.99 for the 512gb and $36.99 for the 1tb, its the lowest read/write speed but for the price thats a deal
That nvme is great for extra storage like games that can be saved on the cloud and if something goes wrong it wont really matter, getting 2 of those already have 3 ssds and a hd plus my windows NVME
I believe that was the CPU cooler I was planning on getting, just black and without RGB, however I ended up just going with the cooler my CPU came with
I've got a 600w Gold rated you can pick up all day for 20-30. It is a Lenovo S30 workstation supply, but if you aren't picky about modular or whatever it's a sweet unit.
CPU case maybe. I ended up getting the NZXT H9 elite for around $240 and then that chains into this hunt for their F120 rgb duo fans cause you only get 3 in the case but you gotta get the additional 7 rgb fans too.
if every piece of second hand PC part works is good enough, if you want better results use a 3d printer to make an air channel and make your thermal paste (dont make it too slimy or dry because it will be hard to clean up or wont help the pc)
Have used the assassin X (black version though) and the mp33 in my builds, no complaints with either. BM2 is on the list for future use if for no other reason than PSU pricing being completely terrible right now in Canada and the BM2 being one of the few decent models available for under $100.
@@eribetra It does look like a decent option. I'll consider it, but I am a little spoiled by modular/semi-modular units and can't be bothered to cable manage, the UD750GM for $100 (available in most Canada Computers stores it seems, though not online) is enticing.
Can say that cooler is great at the price it just cant be beat i use it in all my personal and flips its just looks great and has reall good thermals it keeps my ryzen9 3900x cool
For the ssd i got at least in my country some better recommendations, for pcie 4.0. The Crucial P3 plus is great, and if you want to pay slightly more, maybe the WD SN770 for a bit faster speed.
I gotta say, that ssd is not worth buying if it doesn’t have a dram cache, there are dram ssd’s for only like $5 to $10 dollars more, and that is money well spent. A dram cache improves the performance and responsiveness of an ssd greatly, so please recommend people an ssd with a dram cache.
He saved money by not getting a fully modular PSU. There is no need to pay extra money just to get a Fully modular PSU. The 24 PIN motherboard cable is always used, in every PC, so why does it need to be fully modular? Think harder about it.
@@MrRobarino lol where did I say it must be fully modular, I said never cheap out on the one peice of hardware that not only safeguards against frying the system but also safeguards against causing a potential hazard to health, Ie a house fire due to a short, I think you need to re-read what I put and you yourself should think harder.
@@sobiazeb6913 so i went with a 2060 and a i5 9th gen (it was a combo for 62$) and my gpu was like 72$ concerning but its a good deal so if you have another recomendation pls tell me
Ehhh honestly if you ask me, cooling, case, and power supply are the three areas where it’s good practice to splurge a bit. Non aio coolers can last effectively forever, cases never go bad, and good PSUs have 10 year warranties. Storage will always get cheaper over time, and gpu/cpu/ram are almost all on a 5-6 year upgrade cycle at the longest, and that’s if you’re patient.
I have been using my PC without a case for over 3 years now and it's amazing. I would never use a case again. I love that my computer has a chance to breathe without a ton of fans having to suck in the air for it. Even my Ryzen 9 5900x is passively cooled with a Notctua NH - D15. No fan needed.
Be careful with budget thermaltake psus, they're known to cause issues or die along the line. get one from a brand like corsair, it'll last you much longer
@@hitbyathunder meh, it depends, at the end of the day they are just rebranding OEMs (like super flower) so every model is different. The Corsair vs (with the mixed yellow logo) is widely regarded where I am as a bad PSU (not trash, just bad), and so is the evga BQ line (if I remember correctly)
I would rather just use the stock cooler that comes with many budget CPUs. Also, anyone in Europe is better off spending the extra money on a gold-rated PSU. Electricity is way more expensive here so you'll be saving some decent money.
We have PC builds IN STOCK today at zttbuilds.com 😉
I’m prob gonna get the Ice Lance v2 sometime in the future. Can you do a video on it please? Thanks Zach, another great video 😊😊😊
I messed up. I missed typed and got might of just got hacked.
I'm scared bro
the psu is one thing ill never cheap out on
CWT (who makes top end PSUs for multiple brands includinf Thermaltake) have better budget PSUs than many mid end things you find in the market. My Thermtake TR2 700 lasted way longer than my Seasonic Platinum 3 for a reason. My Seasonic also took 2 HDDs with it 5 years ago
What's that? Why so? Please reply!
@@TheFunnyDictator cuz a bad psu can break everything else it’s connected to, even if unlikely, I wouldn’t take the chance
yeah but its c tier rated which is fine on budget build
@@sirflappington2484 Hey, what anime character is in your profile picture?
I have a 10 year old Dell PC and got a tb SSD for 10 dollars and it boots up in 15 seconds
What about w/o it
@@camera2178 150 seconds
Until you start Google Chrome with some tabs open.
You got scammed so hard
That moment when Windows corrupts itself because it doesn't realize the 10$ "1TB SSD" you bought is really probably only 32gb and it deletes system32
I won't buy a ssd without a dram cache, which is hard to do as companies often don't list that in specs
NVME ssds support HMB, which lets them use system ram for their cache. You can't use them in an enclosure but if it's in your pc, it's fine.
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 each transference off die, or to system memory often requires going to the cpu, and induces a latency penalty, as the drive fills up some nvme drives without cache go from 1000mb read speeds down to near hard drive levels of proformance Edit: I just like to err on the side of caution and most of the higher proformance drives are cached drives anyways and can cost the same, I have a list I found from reddit with hard details like, dram cache speed, and total memory streams, iops ect
@@RadarLeon right ofc, but for peeps on a budget, nvme dramless isnt bad. my current laptop has a wd sn850x and compared to the old pm991a that I had, the difference isnt that much noticable. load times are about the same, they are less (bc my nvme slot is gen3), but not much of a decrease.
Again, budget build = some sort of compromise.
@@RadarLeon 670p is also a QLC drive so it has reduced endurance. Good budget drives now are basically TLC and DRAMless like the WD SN770 (which tbf is a weird drive and is probably closer to a high end drive), or a QLC drive with DRAM like the 670p. It's also PCIE Gen 3 only.
If it was a SATA or an external enclosure situation, I would never recommend a dramless ssd, but in a desktop application, its not as much of a downside as you think.
My comments have been getting kind of circular but basically DRAM with QLC and DRAMless TLC NVME (Specifically NVME, not SATA) SSDs are about the same. Each has a bit of a tradeoff with latency or durability. You realistically can't go wrong in either situation.
Tldr; if you are on a budget, be patient/lucky and find a sale for a good drive (I got a 1 TB WD SN850X for around $60), you will be equally fine getting a DRAM QLC drive or a TLC DRamless drive as long as it is NVME.
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 I understand your comment, regardless of hbm acess using system memory without onboard cache most of these drives become closer to the proformance of a hard drive at 90% or more capacity, unless your purposely refuse to use more than 80% of your drive.
That being said drives like the SN850x have been fairly affordable lately and it's a very nice drive. And I believe your main os should always be a cached drive. A secondary ssd being cacheless is fine, proformance today vs a year from now when people start to wonder why their $500-2000 pc is running slow because they wanted to save $5-10 dollars
The cooler does actually look cool to me, ill use it in my next build, and if it cools 13th gen i5 it must cool an 5600X. And it fits the white aestethic i picked out
Yo we have like the same profile pic
You could also get the 5600 non X and spray paint the stock cooler to get the white aesthetic, would work the same and be $20 cheaper + the money you're saving with the 5600
@@eribetra fair enough, but ill wait with deciding that till i have the actual money
@@eribetra Isn't spray a fan shroud without removing the blades dangerous? (unless I'm confusing something and you meant just the heatsink)
@@yeejay6396 he probably meant just spraying the circular shroud itself. i saw a white spray painted amd wraith cooler in one of craterhq aka joey delgado's videos and it looks awesome
I appreciate that you being good budget pc advice to the masses, and give people honest and realistic recommendations on what parts they actually need. And you do so without caring if they actually make a purchase from you.
Dude forgot about arctic fans. Some of the best fans and some of the best prices
Also some of the best services
Also great company overall! Especially with the liquid freezer ii situation.
bro thank you so much, i needed a cpu fan and saw this comment. Arctic is great!
@@sillysigma422 I've had the same one in my current media pc for 7+years lmao, still silent
But no rhb
The assassin is so nice. It's literally the quietest cooler I've ever seen 👌🏻
I have the Thermalright Assassin King 120 and I can confirm, it is damn good. A must have for an Intel CPU.
I have the Peerless Assassin 120 and that thing is overkill for a Ryzen 5 5500 at 4.75 GHZ
@@user-ec2lh6oj3l I notice Ryzen does pretty good with just the stock coolers, but for Intel CPUs a better fan is a must. With the stock fan At idle i was getting 160f/71c, but after switching out I get 127f/52c under 100% load. Huge improvement.
Ah the good ole days when SSD prices weren't insane
For the ssd I’d recommend the intel 670p, for me it’s about the same price but with dram and faster speeds
Yeah, it's absurd that this clown is recommending a DRAM-less SSD which will perform worse than a hard drive in many cases.
@Marcel Regex DRAMless SSDs have gone a long way with HMB, the cheaper Silicon Power A60 reaches 50/150MB 4Ks which is miles better than the 1/1MB 4Ks _actual HDDs_ are getting lol.
Of course with the P34A80 with DRAM being only $4-5 more expensive, if you have room in your budget then choose that instead, but please don't give up a better SSD or better quality PSU just because DRAM good HMB bad.
@@eribetra see also the SN770. It is a lot faster than some drives with DRAM.
@@abhimaanmayadam5713Yep and it also depends what you're using it for. I found an article with charts showing my WD SN570 will load games faster than similarly priced Crucial and Samsung drives however it has lower sustained write speed so it's never recommended by most people. I'm only using it for gaming on a laptop though so sustained write speed isn't important to me.
If you or anyone else is willing to answer I'd like to ask a few questions. If only using a M.2 NVME SSD for gaming on a laptop is there any other main factor i should consider? Will dRAM make a difference in gaming?
I've used that thermalright assassin cooler and it's crazy cheap
$1500 for a 3070 and an i5 is mad
gen 13 tho
that's the cost of prebuilt computers. and also the 3070 and i5-13400f are great components,
@@mrbigmangeorge Would a 6800xt and a Ryzen 7 7800x3d be a good match?
@@laff1n226 yes that'd be a great match
The crucial p 3 is the best budget SSD no doubt as well as the plus version
Another good ssd is the 670p and 980
Western digital has a cheaper gen 4 1tb than 980
Thermalright has some pretty good coolers. I'm running a aio in my setup now, I love it.
I thought you were gonna say cable extensions💀
That cooler cost 70 dollars in my country and only available in black and its 4 pipe model. Also the non R version cost 135 dollars 🙂
the crucial p3 1tb has double the speed and is 50 bucks
Bro aint lying about the ssds😂 right now they are on sale for $20.99 for the 512gb and $36.99 for the 1tb, its the lowest read/write speed but for the price thats a deal
You can get gen4 1tb for like 42 bucks just chip in 5 more bucks for much better
That nvme is great for extra storage like games that can be saved on the cloud and if something goes wrong it wont really matter, getting 2 of those already have 3 ssds and a hd plus my windows NVME
Acutally good recomendations!
But i would consider a ssd with cache...
i really like the drive yopu pointed out, in fact i use iit daily
Hope I can start a little PC building side hustle
@lolseagull huh, cases xD
We demand more of this type of videos...👌🏻👍🏻
TQ BRO 🔥🔥 I needed this
Great recommendations!
I believe that was the CPU cooler I was planning on getting, just black and without RGB, however I ended up just going with the cooler my CPU came with
I've got a 600w Gold rated you can pick up all day for 20-30. It is a Lenovo S30 workstation supply, but if you aren't picky about modular or whatever it's a sweet unit.
i have the Thermalroght assasin x 120 and i can approve its goated
thermalright assassin and peerless is my go to cooler
Thank you for the content
thank you
CPU case maybe. I ended up getting the NZXT H9 elite for around $240 and then that chains into this hunt for their F120 rgb duo fans cause you only get 3 in the case but you gotta get the additional 7 rgb fans too.
I have the last 2 and have had no problems
if every piece of second hand PC part works is good enough, if you want better results use a 3d printer to make an air channel and make your thermal paste (dont make it too slimy or dry because it will be hard to clean up or wont help the pc)
I like the tough power gx2
Have used the assassin X (black version though) and the mp33 in my builds, no complaints with either. BM2 is on the list for future use if for no other reason than PSU pricing being completely terrible right now in Canada and the BM2 being one of the few decent models available for under $100.
PM750D seems like a decent speculative B rank on psucultists, for $89,99 CAD. Could be worth checking out in a budget build.
@@eribetra It does look like a decent option. I'll consider it, but I am a little spoiled by modular/semi-modular units and can't be bothered to cable manage, the UD750GM for $100 (available in most Canada Computers stores it seems, though not online) is enticing.
I got a 1 to ssd for 40 with ram off Amazon can’t remember the brand but was an absolute steal
good job with that loop
Can say that cooler is great at the price it just cant be beat i use it in all my personal and flips its just looks great and has reall good thermals it keeps my ryzen9 3900x cool
Zach please make more of these videos
More of budget vids please
Who else gets happy when this guy pops up in your fyp
I have that cooler and its great and looks good its also better then some popular choices that cost 2x as much and look worse
No dram? That would be a nope from me tbh
that Psy con blow up
I got a window 10 dell optiplex 3010 6 ram 2015, I want it to become good for gaming
those nvme ssds have come down a hell of a lot in price. When I got my 256gb one years ago it was about $100.
Team group the goat of cheap parts that offer the same specs
Get a 1TB 970 Evo Plus or 1TB P5 Plus if you can find them for cheap. Got both for under $50 a while back. Great drives
Can't go wrong with Thermalright
For the ssd i got at least in my country some better recommendations, for pcie 4.0.
The Crucial P3 plus is great, and if you want to pay slightly more, maybe the WD SN770 for a bit faster speed.
Can you do a build in the Keiders c590
Pc case.
More please
Nice and usefull Video 👍
First two I can confirm are good, I've used them. Don't know about the PSU tho. No idea there.
There's a PSU tier list!!!!
Whats the best pc diy kit also can you make one please:)
get thermalright assassin 120 (non SE) add a little for 2 tower cpu cooler
The mp33 is a great nvme… but I wish the price went back down 26 dollars that thing is now 39 dollars
Crucial P3 is also a great ssd for the price
I gotta say, that ssd is not worth buying if it doesn’t have a dram cache, there are dram ssd’s for only like $5 to $10 dollars more, and that is money well spent. A dram cache improves the performance and responsiveness of an ssd greatly, so please recommend people an ssd with a dram cache.
Nice
I agree on all but the PSU, Never cheap out on a PSU even a good brand budget PSU... the part you should never take a risk on is the Power supply.
He saved money by not getting a fully modular PSU. There is no need to pay extra money just to get a Fully modular PSU. The 24 PIN motherboard cable is always used, in every PC, so why does it need to be fully modular? Think harder about it.
@@MrRobarino lol where did I say it must be fully modular, I said never cheap out on the one peice of hardware that not only safeguards against frying the system but also safeguards against causing a potential hazard to health, Ie a house fire due to a short, I think you need to re-read what I put and you yourself should think harder.
some cheap psus are good. not all are bomb quality. aslong as you do research then youu are good.@@TheWrendre
do you have a cpu recomendation for a midrange (like a budget because i went almost all in on the gpu)
What is your budget
@@sobiazeb6913 so i went with a 2060 and a i5 9th gen (it was a combo for 62$) and my gpu was like 72$ concerning but its a good deal so if you have another recomendation pls tell me
i upgraded my 2014 macbook air with the teamgtoup ssd (just needed to buy an adapter) from 128gb to 2tb
Ehhh honestly if you ask me, cooling, case, and power supply are the three areas where it’s good practice to splurge a bit. Non aio coolers can last effectively forever, cases never go bad, and good PSUs have 10 year warranties. Storage will always get cheaper over time, and gpu/cpu/ram are almost all on a 5-6 year upgrade cycle at the longest, and that’s if you’re patient.
QL120 Fans corsair RGB good one
If you want dram I believe the crucial p3 has dram you can get a 1tb gen 3 something like 3500/3000 for 35 dollars/pounds
Can you do another but in a cpu, gps and mobo please?
The most expensive part of a pc is the graphic card so which are the best graphic cards and rams which will work well both together ❤
For fans antec are rlly good
The peerless assassin is the GOAT. nzxt is for the boujiee people
Goddam i wish the thermaltake bm2 was in my country
Nice bruv
Thermaltake has always been good for budget PSUs.
I have been using my PC without a case for over 3 years now and it's amazing. I would never use a case again. I love that my computer has a chance to breathe without a ton of fans having to suck in the air for it. Even my Ryzen 9 5900x is passively cooled with a Notctua NH - D15. No fan needed.
Make sure you don't have any pets or pests or else they might pee on your GPU
The team mp3 i saw like for 50 bucks
If under 1200 USD, just maximize on CPU+GPU>motherboard(if OC is needed)>RAM>NVME(makes a difference than SATA)>case fans>case.
Assassin X 120 R SE WHITE
silicon power UD90:
gen 4 nvme
decent speeds (dont know off the top of my head)
$42 for 1tb!
I would never buy any SSD without a Dram Cache!
Ryzen 5 3500 also 50$ for a CPU and fitting CPU cooler is an absolute steal
How much does the psu cost?
50$
How much watt
@@Unknown_skittle 550 I'm pretty sure
Be careful with budget thermaltake psus, they're known to cause issues or die along the line. get one from a brand like corsair, it'll last you much longer
@@hitbyathunder meh, it depends, at the end of the day they are just rebranding OEMs (like super flower) so every model is different. The Corsair vs (with the mixed yellow logo) is widely regarded where I am as a bad PSU (not trash, just bad), and so is the evga BQ line (if I remember correctly)
That ssd is kinda sad tho
I’m planning to get the assassin spirit cause a white cooler doesn’t fit with my build
Thank you for not including cable extensions.
Suggest a budget cooler for the 7600x pls
Try the fikwot 1tb, it's less than $40 and has read speed of 3500 mbps
No way! I just built my PC 3 weeks ago with the exact same cooler on my intel i5 12600k.
i as a budget baller never buy a cpu cooler(or any kind of cooler at all), i mean official cpu coolers from the cpu pack is actually decent lol
Msi mag a550bn also a good psu
Team Group ELITE 3200MHz
I have 2 out of 3
I would rather just use the stock cooler that comes with many budget CPUs. Also, anyone in Europe is better off spending the extra money on a gold-rated PSU. Electricity is way more expensive here so you'll be saving some decent money.
And what about be quiet system power? Quite cheap and great
I would honestly she’ll out some extra on the power supply just for the peace of mind.
Wd nv2 1tb is also 40
Want a reasonably priced high-end tier ssd? Apacer as2280q4u