VIRTUAL TRANSFORMERS?? || Kazrog - True Iron
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- The True Iron plugin promises to emulate cool, vintage transformers. But do they really?!?
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You should should make year end videos that compiles all the plugins that were snake oil and all the ones there weren't for each year. Starting with your first year you started your youtube.
I agree
I second this! It would be a lot of help!
that would be so helpful
As an addition, it would also be cool to know if any plugins you reviewed in that year became part of your workflow
I love the concept of Snake Oil 😂😂😂
That's an interesting and good sounding transformer emulation.
Thanks for pointing me to this plug-in. Well done, Wytse! *Thumbs up*
Awesome, love your review! Have six more mixes to do this week and it's going to be all over them. Stuck this on the mix bus, then the vocal channel and was very impressed with the warmth. Very glad I found your CZcams channel 🙂
Frickin sweet. I've really been looking for something like this. Means a lot to hear it from you!
I've owned this software since the first day it was available..actually, think before that. This version is the 3rd iteration (2 updates)...subtle but sonically even better than the original. Awesome you displayed some visual documentation, but as you said, the proof is in the hearing. BTW, use this as your 1st plug in , as it's designed to energize everything that comes after. Thus, subtle setting often work best. Your presentations are unfailingly informative..and entertaining. Good stuff, sir.
Thanks for that great tip, Robert!
Really appreciate the honesty in your reviews. Makes when you recommend a plugin more genuine. I have been a fan of Kazrog's stuff since his Recabinet impulses years ago. They are still my go-to ones. All of his plugins are top notch.
Nooo you gave away one of my “secret” weapons! Kidding haha, Kazrog deserves all the recognition they can have. Kclip is also amazing and thermionik too. But, if I had to ask to review another plugin, I’d say MJUC from Klanghelm for sure. Gem compressor, super cheap as well.
Buying this one for sure! Great for situations when you're tracking somewhere else when your analog gear isn't available. Thanks for the review!
In my opinion this plugin sounds "best" when it's used on "everything" - take every analogue-modeled EQ and compressor and place it just before to fake a proper input transformer and it really makes a digital mix shine in a way that is very pleasing. If you have Mixbus 32 (obviously for the gorgeous summing and excellent EQs and compressors) and you place an instance before each EQ and each Compressor on all channels/Busses you'll end up with something you didn't know you could get digitally...the mix will come out about 1.5-2.2db louder so keep that in mind and compensate for it when you judge the two (and judge from a "digitally pristine"/uncolored DAW like Logic). This is one of the very few plugins I have used where I was just as impressed after matching levels as I was before. With all that said I must also confess that I didn't like the sound when just placed on every channel - it "hollows out" the sound when used like that and when used solo on the master buss I found it mostly forgettable.
BrettMerrill MusicProducer I like your way of thinking. Doing some serious comparisons between Logic and Mixbus and trying to get more analog with Mixbus, so willing to give that a try.
Wow, once you cranked that all the way up I got chills! Instantly buying full version!
Thanks for the review. I stumbled on info for this plugin today and reviews sounded promising. After seeing your review I'm sold...going in!!
I stumbled upon this channel and absolutely love it. Keep up what you are doing!! Just subscribed
I am glad you checked this out. I like the sound of it and will buy it. Thanks. You're the only one on youtube I absolutely trust.
I use it a lot to distort 808 basses. The sound is great with this Plugin. There is so much snake oil out there it's refreshing to have something like this
You have found a true diamond in the rough, thank you for this. A real analysis!
Yeah it's amazing what transformers can do for sound. I haven't tried this plug-in but have been working with real ones for a radio station's signal path. Of course mainly to solve technical issues that transformers will solve, like hum loops. But then they end up colouring the sound. And usually in a real cool way.
Wow even through CZcams it sounds great ! Going over to buy it right now .
Thanks for your videos Sir !
I wondered why I hadnt seen a virtual transformer plugin til now. Can't believe I hadnt heard of this! This plugin is awesome! Finally, I'm able to get that warm low-mid distortion/saturation on my subs without having to re-sample through breadboards populated with random transistors til I find one that sounds good. My way works... but this way is a hell of a lot easier! lol
I enjoy seeing you get hyped
Thanks man! After buy it, I started to feel confident about my mixes! FINALLY!
Got to love the way he say Iron lol great video man.
I bought this in their sale with the EQ 252 as, if you’re impressed with the sound it must be great 😂! After demoing it, I was impressed too! Happy New Year to you! Hope it’s a happy and prosperous one!
I like their Recabinet IRs. Definitely will check this one out too. Sounds good!
Between this and Soundtoys decapitator, I've got all my saturation needs covered :D
Sweet analog colour from that plugin! Thank you for sharing.
I use this quite a bit. Activating the Morph knob's enhancement feature (LED on) really brings out the character.
Great demo of this awesome plugin! Thanks
Interesting plugin, I must say. Im gonna have a look, Im very curious to try it out. Thanks for the tip!
Just picked up their synth warmer, can't wait to try it out!
Cool man. I look forward to trying this with my Fishman pickups, which are spectacular but sometimes need some added body because they handle infinite amounts of gain too cleanly.
Also, buy Fishman pickups. And buy this.
Edit: Thanks for the review...
This is definitely one of the best plugins I own. You can put it on anything and it just gives character.
The new mic sounds great dude!
the real question is.... does this sound different than normal saturation plugins? how would it compare to saturn's tube saturation, to native instruments dirt or decapitator (considering it's being used on a high samplerate ofc)?
Good question.
3:34 you know a plugin made it when this happens.. ^^ thanks for the snake oil take on it !
oh ... and it was so good to hear sandstorm again ;D
Ok am I missing something these songs aren’t really Sandstorm interpretations are they? I feel like there’s an inside joke
Kazrog has already picked up this video. It's in an email they've sent me (I already own True Iron) They should send you a free license!
They did!
This plugin sounds great. It’s also kind of proof of point how difficult it is to model old analog gear digitally and get a faithful reproduction. EVERY stage of those devices is effecting the final sound. From the transformers to the AD/DA converters etc etc. Synergistic mechanical minutia is adding up to the final sound. I have a Rupert Neve direct box, it’s not supposed to color the sound... but SOMETHING is happening with the harmonics that aren’t happening with a Radial DI (which are great, just different) haha. All this stuff is important and they’ve knocked this one out of the park IMO
I like distortion on bass guitar and room mics but anything else I like it to stay pretty clean. Using this to knock off some transients is a form of compression though it can be subtle.
Check out his guitar sims they are some of the best un-rated amps on the market. Please they are amazing guys.
Wut, their amps are highly rated and even raved about on pretty much every guitar forum.
Im on Karzog’s website and they don’t have amp sims... Is it a different site?
@@castlehill6717 Thermionik was their guitar amp plugin. They discontinued it.
@@RealHomeRecording2 They are bringing it back, better than ever
@@TheGurner1 cool I am happy to hear that
Video quality is on point 👌
Have you tried the Omega transformers from Kush Audio? I absolutely love how they sound, though there are three separate plugins vs. this with multiple choices all in one.
my go to for quite some time for saturation...lovely plugin
Great! Thanks for the video!
Selectable Input impedance... For example, with the Focusrite ISA-424, you can change the input impedance. It can make a huge difference in sound if you use vintage mics, specifically ribbons. Nowadays the input impedance of mic preamps is standardized to + - 600 Ohm, depending on the design.
I admit it, I was influenced! Now I have True Iron and it is good!
That makes the snare just hop out.
Neat pluggy thinger.
Nice one. Going to try it out. did you ever review the HG Blackbox by Plugin Alliance?
I have a question, if I have the VCC Channel / VCC Mixbus and a virtual transformer. Do I need the virtual transformer when I insert the VCC? Or the VCC does the work of the transformer simulation.
I Love this Plugin and also think the WinRar style Licensing is amazing.
I'll give this a shot. I am currently happy with using J37, but I'll this as well for the variety.
The Eleven Rack from DigiDesign (now Avid) is an older unit now, but still my favorite and the only one that I've ever seen with a proprietary input impedance that is NOT ONLY modeled for each module in the signal chain, BUT ALSO actually changes the input impedance for the guitar input jack as you change the signal chain!
Like the Unison mode in UA Apollo interfaces?
That thing is actually pretty impressive, especially for the price!
You should’ve done a comparison between the true iron and omega N and A transformers from Kush Audio great video anyhow thank you for the review!
Hey man! Best review yet! Please do Acustica Audio Ceil :]
“gewicht”, the first word i know that is the exact same for germans and netherlands.
Hi! Another great video, thank you! I was wondering what tool did you use at 8 minutes to measure the Kazrog plugin effect on harmonics?
Plugin doctor
@@Whiteseastudio Thank you very much
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A cool follow up of this input impedance discussion would be a UAD Apollo test video.
I am planning to make my own test, but if you have some of the unison enabled gear, here is the idea :
We play back some vocal recordings , drums, strings or a full sandstorm from a device you trust, then record that through the unison enabled inputs and try some of the input impedance dependent plugins UAD provides (Avalo, Neve, SSL etc...)
I think no one did such a test yet and some people are still not sure if it's snake oil or the perfect way to emulate vintage equipment.
Ups I did it again. I finally bought a new plugin. Thank you very much for revealing this little budget treasure. This tool is amazing and without your video I probably would never have stumbled over it. I'm not a master engineer, so would you recommend it on the master channel or more on single track channels?
It sounds like a great vibe plug in! Is this version of Sandstorm one of your past projects?
Finally your good reaction. Congratulation :)
This plug could have the power to replace summing mixers ?
Input impedance adjustment is what makes the UAD hardware/software combo so amazing. I don't know how they can actually do that without hardware, though. The plugin can't actually change the impedance the way the UAD interfaces do. Right of the top, I'm thinking "buzz word"=snake oil. [Edit-Wow! Was I ever wrong about that one! It sounds great. Have you reached out to Tony who makes the Klanghelm plugins yet? They are really impressive. They'll blow you away like this one, but they also do compression and the saturation plugin has a lot more control. I think I definitely prefer the Klanghelm plugins to this one.]
Considering this plugin had screws(and rust) it’s a miracle.👍
Amazing plug in!
very interesting :) I may need to demo this puppy
I’ve been getting a lot of use out of Kush’s Omega 458a. This definitely looks worth trying as well.
A guy told me once, 'You should use whiplash auto pan on every track, and especially the output.' So that has served me well, if I do say so myself!
1:13 "Snelle planga"
what does this mean?
@@threepe0 it references a dutch meme about cool-looking sunglasses 😎
@whiteseastudio What plugin do you use for FFT/harmonic analysis?
Hi! White Sea Studio. I was pretty excited seeing your video. So I tried the plugin, and wow actually it brings something to my sound! BUT, by compensating the volume (about -2db) I hear nothing that I can not correct with an eq (ok, there should be some harmonics, but it's very light). I obviously do not talk about saturation, and other plugins do it very well too, but everything else, at equal volume, I don't hear any difference. So, I know, it's hard to go back on his own opinion, but this story really disturbs me, what is your opinion considering an equal volume with/without the True Iron?? Thanks.
100% agree. Love your vids White Sea! BUT- after watching this this morning, I got super excited to buy this plug. Bought it, and when I got to the studio I did a careful A/B making sure there wasn't just a "volume bump"...and sure enough...there is a 1.5-2 db gain with the plug instantiated. When i turn down to match gain for true a/b...there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in the signal whatsoever. Bummer. In fairness, I'm not sure this is a "linear" thing...in other words...maybe if you crank up the strength, or any of the other parameters and then match volume, maybe then it does something, but overall, smells like Snake Oil that you missed White Sea! :)
@@lukeadams7878 It has a knob at the bottom to compensate for an loudness gain. In fact, every preset has a slightly different negative value at the bottom.
You had the same as me when i tried it. Didnt believe it. Try it on each of your busses to really make it sparkle!
I love the running Sandstorm joke.
i love KClip from them as well.
Oh man! I was so sure you'd hate it ;-) I'm going to try it on my 2 Out!
@White Sea Studio Hi there, I really enjoy your videos. Particularly these "Snake Oil" ones.
I have a request, though...
Is there any chance you could attenuate your mic by a couple of dB so I can turn up my monitors to hear the music + Dry/Wet effects without needing to turn it down every time you speak in to the mic?
Probs sound like a doc but im sure you catch my drift!!!!
Many thanks by the way!!!!
I will! Thanks for the tip!
@@Whiteseastudio Safe
Just got TRUE IRON but having problems downloading to my MacBook Pro 10.15.6 running Logic Pro.
All my other plugins download fine. Called Kazrog and they said Apple did "something" that impeded this type of download and they were trying to explain some kind of work around which did not seem to work.
Perhaps a brief video showing how to get this done.
Ok people. He is fair. If he likes it he will say he does.
Had this the first day it emerged. Also have the Compressor trio. (Forgot the name) . They are great folks as well.
which software do you use to analyze the plugins?
This tools is great but dont be fooled by the loudness difference. Its much more subtle than in your review.
Good point. I am demoing the plug and am having a tough time hearing any difference when the level is matched properly. It is veeeery subtle to my ears. 1db or 2 level difference can really be deceiving. I thought it sounded great in the video above but after level matching myself not sure I am sold. Need to do more testing.
@@jfranciskay You can use it as a nice saturation tool for instruments like Bass or Drums and if you crank the crush its not subtle anymore but for my taste not really usefull on the mixbus. For the price its actually a very good saturation tool.
If you looking for something thats also nice in the mixbus for some analog flavor then I would recommend you Satin from U-he if you do not already know it. Its a really good tape emulation.
Volume matching is too advanced skill for this guy. He "forgets" it in EVERY VIDEO, its pretty pathetic at this point. But even "professionals" dont know how to volume match. Its not enough to watch for peaks (or worse yet, compensate by the exact amount you see on a gain reduction meter...), if you measure the input LUFS and output LUFS (as true uniform loudness to the human ear) you'll realize that you need to compensate with much less than you'd think. I set up an SSL the other day for that standard 3db gain reduction and only had to use the makeup for 1db addition to match the real loudness. Now THAT is how you can compare input/output by ear and dont get fooled by extra volume changes
breakline TBAudio Pro AB_LM is also a nice little helper for that
@@jfranciskay LOL- right there with ya.
that was great, so useful thanks
Kazrog has my favorite amp sims!
Nice review. Subbed
I really like, that you reviewed a plugin from one of the smaller companies. I'l love to see more of that. TDR, Klanghelm, Kuassa, Audiothing to name a few in no particular order and I know there are many more.
For me, totally subjective, Outer space by AudioThing was a great surprise. A kind of Space Echo.
I recall he did do AOM Invisible Limiter, which is well liked, but not a big time name. To be real, Acustica Audio is not a big time name for most creators.
@@alexbreyer6921 absolutely. Since Acustica managed to get Greg Wells for their El Rey on board, I cannot say, if they are still that small, but I really don't know. Klanghelm is one guy and personally I think, that the SDDR and MJUC are fantastic and very affordable. I'm not rooting for him, there are many great small companies.
The main reason for me to say so was, that you easily find reviews for any Waves, Plugin-Alliance, IK, etc release. I like some, if not most of their stuff as well and for the sake of his channel he certainly can't ignore them, but again, smaller companies without a huge advertising budget, but some gems under the hood, should be covered as well.
Another time where checking out the manual would have been really beneficial to see which transformers were which
I bought this plugin based on your video and I must say I really like it. How would suggest using it? I saw one video where a guy placed it as the first plugin in all his tracks he used it on.
That is indeed an option... or well, on the tracks you want to use it on 😊
Great Job!!!!
nice review!
I love the concept of Snake Oil 😂😂😂, That S**t is Hilarious !!!
Whaaaat! soooo nice.... Aannnnnd bought it...
I love this plugin!
Can i use reverb and delay in acoustic guitar? please
Thx for the review. I'll try this. I think you could enjoy kush audio Omega serie. Tcho! :)
I dig True Iron. V178 is my fav as well.
Ohh yea, for my colection now, thanks
Just got a Sub from me!! 😎 been watching and learning your legit dude keep it up I also hope this works for logic too ! Lmao
would this plugin work for tech house, techno and other electronic music ?
I'm getting ready to watch your video very soon. I have it up and ready to go, and I'm even gonna let the whole commercial play through. Only for you.
Just to answer your question about do other plugins look at input impedance...Don't UAD unison preamp plugins do this? I mean if you are using their Voxbox or Helios or Century Channel Strip, part of working with it is setting up the impedance level going in, which can color the sound. Their whole unison system is based on impedance matching for different gear modeling. They have about nine plugins that do this.
Would love to hear opinion on Klanghelm SDRR2 as well! Cheers
UAD 2 takes imput impedance in to account with their unison technology. Really good stuff.
But only with Unison-enabled UAD preamp plugins.