Warframes NEW Endgame Rewards! How It Works - Deep Archimedea Explained, It's Rewards & Modifiers

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    Deep Archimedea is kind of like a more challenging Sortie with a significant twist. These weekly missions offer Tenno a chance to push their Arsenal to the limit in new ways!
    To access Deep Archimedea missions, players must be Rank 5 in the Cavia Syndicate, and must sacrifice 2 Netracell Search Pulses to play. Once sacrificed, players can replay these missions as much as they want, but can only receive 5 Rewards from them each week.
    To unlock these rewards, players must increase their Research Value, which can be done in a few ways via the Mission’s menu
    Using items from Loid’s suggested equipment
    Applying various modifiers to the mission
    The more Research Value you have, the higher tiers of rewards you unlock: Tier 1 and 2 are drops from the Netracell Drop Table, Tier 3 is the Netracell Drop Table with a better chance for rare reward, and the final tier is a guaranteed Legendary Arcane.
    Once you are ready, Tenno must take on three missions in a row, without the ability to change your loadout in between -- so pick your equipment wisely! Be mindful of the various mission deviations and risk variables (i.e. conditions that make the gameplay way harder), as well as gameplay restrictions, before heading in.
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Komentáře • 282

  • @Kurainuz
    @Kurainuz Před 3 měsíci +45

    The multiple misions in a row sounds scary to me, too many times warframe has problems where you get disconected at the last minutes and an hour of farm just goes away.
    I hope it has propper "checkpoints" for the loot

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci +4

      Especially with Mobile having just released

    • @EmvyBeats
      @EmvyBeats Před 3 měsíci +2

      it will either be like the circuit, or the sorties. cos you are right, and i'm sure they though of that... hopefully.

    • @Goldy01
      @Goldy01 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Since you don't seem to get anything for completing less than all three missions in a row, I'm not sure why it would.

  • @MuraCasardis
    @MuraCasardis Před 3 měsíci +28

    It may not be a "raid" but it sure looks and sounds like one. Seems like the way to go if they really want to officially make raids.

  • @AlphaOmegaInfinity
    @AlphaOmegaInfinity Před 3 měsíci +113

    As a player who constantly bounces between weapons and frames, I’m eager to put myself to the test in this mode. I know the restrictions aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but I enjoy changing things up

    • @thenightingale7405
      @thenightingale7405 Před 3 měsíci +8

      I enjoy it as long as it doesn't lock me to frames that I actively dislike. Like I would rather just not play the game than play Limbo.

    • @jakeharrison207
      @jakeharrison207 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@thenightingale7405I agree but that’s why it’s good you can run it multiple times. Late game players will probably be able to one round it, but if you want all 5 worst case you can just do it twice which gives you so much more wiggle room to avoid challenges

  • @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436
    @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436 Před 3 měsíci +48

    To answer the "will it pull from the player inventory" question, I would point you to the UI that shows a Nyx Prime and then just a normal non prime, Inaros which would mean, this account likely doesnt own a Inaros Prime, or it would have used this instead, so I think its safe to ASSUME that, it will pull from player inventory.

    • @Exxzo
      @Exxzo Před 3 měsíci +4

      Are you assuming that it’s always going to pull the prime variant as well if you have them over the normal?

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci +2

      I really hope so.
      Telling me to use a random selection of gear that's already passed the "fun test" is way more tolerable than pulling from WF's entire weapon library

    • @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436
      @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, just because this is how it works in the circuit. @@Exxzo

    • @insurgent4288
      @insurgent4288 Před 2 měsíci

      Doesn’t the little square indicators behind the weapons and atlas indicate the ones that the person owns? They’re also the only ones colored, the rest are black and white…

    • @Male_Parent
      @Male_Parent Před 2 měsíci +2

      Oh God but I own like 200 weapons because I don't like to sell them. I don't want to see the veldt or stug show up... 💀
      I do have a bunch of builds for the weapons I own, but there's also a good handful that aren't forma'd or potatoe'd yet. I'm just hoping you can consistently get gold tier even if you get a few terrible picks, and occasionally getting the full bar filled up if you get lucky.

  • @saucyboytay8249
    @saucyboytay8249 Před 3 měsíci +22

    1:26 caught me off guard 😭😭😭

  • @GustavoMsTrashCan
    @GustavoMsTrashCan Před 3 měsíci +63

    1:23 - 1:26
    IF YOU ROCK AND STONE YOU ARE NEVER ALONE!

    • @zaviki7819
      @zaviki7819 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Deep rock galactic and Warframe really are kindred spirits.
      Both free
      Both good
      Both PvE
      Both have passionate, welcoming communities.

    • @wiltedtp3699
      @wiltedtp3699 Před 3 měsíci

      @@zaviki7819 DRG isnt free tho?

    • @TheKniperlight
      @TheKniperlight Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@zaviki7819 for real

    • @lastcrustacean2154
      @lastcrustacean2154 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@zaviki7819 also both have phenomenal dev teams that display immense passion for the game and its players

    • @user-hf3hd3pw1p
      @user-hf3hd3pw1p Před 3 měsíci +2

      FOR ROCK AND STONE!!!

  • @WraitFury
    @WraitFury Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks man I appreciate the content as always.

  • @Noacon
    @Noacon Před 3 měsíci +5

    I hope that this means we will get a double affinity weekend upon release of the update, that way we can Forma Level our unused equipment

  • @RiveriaTV
    @RiveriaTV Před 3 měsíci +38

    I have mixed feelings about the new "endgame" mission, lately I have seen a lot of ppl not reviving other players on netracells, add the fact that 80% of the time you'll get bad weapons or/and frames... also hope the defense part in not 10 waves....

    • @DogeZzzz
      @DogeZzzz Před 3 měsíci +5

      That just depends on your inventory, if you have a lot of steel path ready frames and weapons you will rarely get only bad options, since this is aimed towards high level players thats not a problem, since at that point you should have a pretty good arsenal already

    • @SigmaGuardian66
      @SigmaGuardian66 Před 3 měsíci +6

      My solution to dealing with players during netracells is simply to not deal with other people in netracells. Less people dying and more that people get too blood hungry and slow down the mission by killing away from the zones. At this point I simply find it quicker and easier to go solo. Probably what I'll also do for this mode. I'm no slouch in a tough situation after all.

    • @AimbotFreak
      @AimbotFreak Před 3 měsíci +31

      @@DogeZzzz High level players don't all waste forma on everything. People have preferences and builds specifically for end game, forcing everyone to max out everything in order to be useful in a mission is insane.

    • @Glamador
      @Glamador Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@AimbotFreak I know this is going to be contentious in my household. I'm very much a "make every frame and weapon end-game viable" kind of player. But my roomie is a "I use what I like and if that means these 5 frames and 6 weapons total, so be it. DE can put out stuff I like, maybe?" kind of player.
      It already makes them really salty at how many "bad rolls" they get in the Circuit.

    • @stealthyfuck3217
      @stealthyfuck3217 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@AimbotFreakjust do the mission multiple times......
      You can get take one specific frame and one specific weapon and just loose on two research points. Its fairly easy

  • @TheCleverJoker
    @TheCleverJoker Před 3 měsíci +4

    I hope it is set up so that completing a run with X modifiers selected, those modifiers should get marked as complete an not be needed to progress the research bar further. You should be able to run the missions with say the Warframe, Secondary and Melee restriction plus like 2 of the additional modifiers. Then do another run with the other modifiers instead to minimise the potential for locked poor synergy between Warframe, Weapons and Modifiers.

  • @KiuhKobold
    @KiuhKobold Před 3 měsíci +5

    A while ago this kind of update would make me groan in bother over there being "more grind" on the way. Now I am happy that there's even more stuff to look out for in my future playing warframe with my friends. One day I'll get there, but for now, I wanna either complete the new war, or unlock steel path. Happy times

    • @Phalar123
      @Phalar123 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well, if you don’t have steel path right now you do actually need to finish new war to unlock it

    • @KiuhKobold
      @KiuhKobold Před 3 měsíci

      @@Phalar123Thanks for letting me know :D Much appreciated :) Currently attempting to acquire a necramech. Will be easy once I get the tier 1 standing with Loid

  • @Ima9ineBreak3r
    @Ima9ineBreak3r Před 3 měsíci +44

    I am so excited for these new high difficulty missions. Other than just going to level-cap or purposefully using sub-optimal gear, it is really hard to make Warframe super difficult. I think these missions will challenge even very well-equipped players.

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci +3

      More like change well-equipped players into mediocrely-equipped players.

    • @DarkmegaGaming
      @DarkmegaGaming Před 3 měsíci

      @@Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchoulithat IS one way in which people create difficulty. Bring off meta/sub-optimal gear and try a little harder.

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci

      @@DarkmegaGaming Sure, we even have Dragon Keys for that. It's fun sometimes. Also good for flaunting, like running Mag with Bleeding Key as a way of saying "my shields are just that impenetrable."

    • @DarkmegaGaming
      @DarkmegaGaming Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchoulionce I accidentally had my key on after trying to test melee combos and stuff in simulacrum (enemies kept dieing to slash procs too quickly).
      I had brought some fairly serious gear though (mostly incarnons), so I got into the max level of alchemy bounties and I didn't even notice my damage was nerfed. the difficulty just felt "right" at that point. So I was basically 90% nerfed and my damage was still sufficient to get through it semi-comfortably until I checked my profile square towards the end of the mission.

  • @SuperWalkingGame
    @SuperWalkingGame Před 3 měsíci +4

    I'm happy to have started building up all the frames and weapon i collected on my road to MR30, it's gonna come in handy looks like.

  • @ReeceRacc
    @ReeceRacc Před 3 měsíci +30

    The main problem i have with needing every frame and weapon is that we STILL have to buy slots

    • @williamking9707
      @williamking9707 Před 3 měsíci +8

      There's also the fact that acquiring and building, modding and polarising even 75% of frames, weapons, and companions(?) to do high steel path is...
      An ungodly time investment. I've spent so many forma in the last month it's disgusting. Also considering that forma, potatoes still take 12-24 hours to build once you even get them if they're not pre-baked.

    • @Seven7swords
      @Seven7swords Před 3 měsíci +8

      This game mode is more for players who have years into this game it seems. Nightwaves always gives free weapon and Warframe slots. So a vet would likely have gotten many free warframes and many free slots. Otherwise, sell items to players for plat and buy slots.
      80% of my inventory has enough Forma and rivens to be steel path viable and I am sure there are veteran players even more geared than I. For a long time in Warframe there was nothing better to do than to dump forma into bad weapons and use them in high level content just to get a semblance of challenge.

    • @SigmaGuardian66
      @SigmaGuardian66 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Seven7swords Not to mention login milestones give slots.

    • @EmvyBeats
      @EmvyBeats Před 3 měsíci

      Sell a couple things in game and you can buy all the slots you need. There is no need to rush. I played with regular Rhino for a very long time when i first started & eventually i figured out how easy it is to get anything you need in this game just by playing it. & if you have more money than time, buy a prime access pack.

    • @barryz8858
      @barryz8858 Před 3 měsíci

      @@williamking9707 This isnt a New player or even a Mid Player Thing. FFS not everything has to be catered to you all. Maybe just maybe, for once we vets t hat have been playing for years, that do have builds for all frames and weapons, finally get ONE THING that is just for us

  • @Joe90h
    @Joe90h Před 3 měsíci +1

    One thing that might be interesting to see is how many late game players will actually start investing in some forgotten frames just to try for those extra points? I have well over 30 diffferent frame builds I think would work in this mode depending on those modifiers, but if it shows me a selection like Limbo, Caliban or Nyx, then I'll end up having to finally invest in Nyx.

  • @JananaBanana
    @JananaBanana Před 3 měsíci +6

    I am definitely intrigued here. Also wondering how many forma it will take to minimize the "bad roll" problems...

    • @williamking9707
      @williamking9707 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I'm already 150 forma deep.
      I still get more bad rolls than good. I'll get some that are kneecapped, like a solid weapons platform, but with an unbuilt boltace and shit.
      And even when you do get good rolls, if you're pubbing you'll get stuck with a squad that got dog poo and wants to bail at wave 1, inviting host migrations.

  • @rushobinnabi3684
    @rushobinnabi3684 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for the short and to the point vide summary, Tater. Great job on summarizing this stuff. Too much information makes my brain hurt lol.

  • @pyrogundam117
    @pyrogundam117 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don’t think they said it’ll be like the circuit where unowned frames and weapons will be modded and for rent, but kinda do but built for the actual mission unlike in Duviri where they weren’t modded for SP circuit runs. For me, because of the circuit, I started to mod more frames and weapons so they’ll be of some use (especially after the Plague Star event) and how Deep Archimedean is, good thing I did since now that’s DE’s formula for making challenging missions.

  • @giaggiolo2160
    @giaggiolo2160 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm so excited for this new update, now i have a reason to create new build for forgotten frame and weapon instead of cycle to my 4 to 5 go to loudout. I hope they include variation of weapons ex. they give you a nukor but you can also use the kuva nukor for the extra points

  • @blunomad8nuuxh
    @blunomad8nuuxh Před 3 měsíci

    This sounds like raid material and I'm all in for it

  • @xnbk-yotiex5247
    @xnbk-yotiex5247 Před 3 měsíci +4

    With the arcanes removed from loot pool, i just run normal runs for adapters and shards. Ill be happy with that.

  • @IainG10
    @IainG10 Před 3 měsíci +8

    My obsessive need to put an end-game capable build on every item in the game might actually pay off! It was certainly nice for the Circuit. I have to be over 200 Forma deep by now (that's a low estimate)....

    • @marcosalazar4682
      @marcosalazar4682 Před 3 měsíci +3

      just 200? Noob

    • @NikolaBevanda
      @NikolaBevanda Před 3 měsíci

      200 ? That's not even all frames

    • @IainG10
      @IainG10 Před 3 měsíci

      @Bevanda Yeah, having got home from work and actually started counting, Frames alone is 318

    • @IainG10
      @IainG10 Před 3 měsíci

      @@marcosalazar4682 Ok, I got home from work and counted, and my estimate was WAY off; if I haven't missed anything, I'm 1,315 Formas used so far. I guess I've sort of blanked out the amount of time I've spent re-levelling things......

    • @reticenthope7022
      @reticenthope7022 Před 3 měsíci

      @@IainG10 honestly I feel like this is a fairly good example of why this isn’t really comparable to raids (at least destiny raids). In my friend group we had 2 people who occasionally play, 1 who hadn’t played in a long time and came back, 1 who was completely new to destiny, the only 2 who where remotely familiar with raids was 1 other and myself who play fairly often. It took about a week and we’re able to start doing raids with returnee and completely new player. This mission requires a level of investment on a whole other level.
      However I do not say this to mean I truly think this design for the warframe mission is bad, only that destiny raids aren’t the greatest comparison.
      I also don’t say this to imply anything ill of you, I think that it is very cool that you have such an absurd devotion to take the effort to forma everything.

  • @highpol1ce
    @highpol1ce Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is what this game needs. It doesn't need raids. People who say this game needs raids, have very very obviously not "high-end" raided before. Or possibly been in a real raid at all. This game isn't made for 8 player content. Hell, I wouldn't even say 6 player would be good. You can look at Destiny for that type of raiding.
    There's a mode in Destiny though, called Grandmaster Nightfalls. Basically, a set of missions with a normal party (in Destiny it's 3), just made more difficult, but for an intense loot drop and honestly one of the only ways to get certain materials. That's what I feel like Netracells and now this are/can end up being. We got close with the SP 60 eyes assassination in the new area, being one of these missions. Unfortunately, there's just no reason to go back in, after you've done it once. So this being a thing now is great end game content.
    I now hope they make Netracells a bit more intuitive. Because regardless of the less than ideal drop table for it, the time it takes to do the damn mission due to either people really not paying attention or have their audio turn off and just run off and kill stuff off in Bumfuck, Egypt, is insane. Especially when it tells you how to execute the mission. And I know it's not _everyone's_ first time in there. I can understand 1 or 2 people here and there. But this is every single time I go in, I have to say something in chat to kill inside the circle. But on the other hand, why is there no visual cues similar to how "kill inside the circle" is done on Deimos? In the Netracell, it's just a red circle on the mini-map. And also, there's no continuous instruction to remember to kill in the circle, also like Deimos. It was the same with the event with the eyes. Kill inside the yellow circle and it would cut the time needed for the eyes to appear. But people would almost argue and say that wasn't a thing, whenever informed in chat. But if this new mission ends up being similar in the way of "kill x inside of y area", then the same issue will arise.

  • @stephanrobert5593
    @stephanrobert5593 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Deep Archimedea is basically like the skulls from Halo

  • @tiran193
    @tiran193 Před 3 měsíci

    i hope the new mode doesnt take long to complete, i'd like it if def missions would be just like 3 waves same as circuit
    and the weapons having a condition where you can only choose the weapons frames which have a potato/forma in them

  • @jamesrule1338
    @jamesrule1338 Před 3 měsíci

    I can't wait for this.

  • @reza494
    @reza494 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I really hope there is some sort of curation for the loadouts that are gonna be available.
    There are many weapons (and frames) that aren't even good for steel path no matter the build so letting them show up here doesn't seem right. In the circuit you and your team's decrees can help most builds not be useless and even if that didn't help you can restart with a new selection. this doesn't seem to be the case here.

    • @williamking9707
      @williamking9707 Před 3 měsíci

      I mean, I can see there being some limit to what we can exclude but anything not-minmaxed is going to be pain on steel path.
      We should at least be able to nix unpolarised builds. SOMETHING.

  • @gameguys8019
    @gameguys8019 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I can’t wait to play this new end game mission and then have to rethink my life’s choices afterwards 😂

  • @junklover671
    @junklover671 Před 3 měsíci +3

    So you don't need to fill up the bar fully, it'll just increase number of rewards AND their rarity? So you still kinda have a chance at legendary arcane at lower bar score? Because forma-ing stug or some other meh weapon and running lvl 350 just because it was this week's requirement - doesn't sound so fun.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Před 3 měsíci +2

      legendary arcane is garaunteed with a full bar. If its in the nettracel drop table then it has a chance to show up in lower rewards

    • @junklover671
      @junklover671 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TacticalPotato gotcha, thank you for explanation!

  • @renarduwu
    @renarduwu Před 3 měsíci +5

    The loadout thing is really bad imo, i also dont like it at the circuit, but at least at the circuit if u get a "decent" weapon with the default bad builds, you can just get the decrees to make up for it, and make the weapon actually good, but i dont think this new gamemode looks like it will have something that buffs us to the point of the weapon not mattering so much.

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      This is for end game players not for your mr 10 account so dont bother complaining

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      This is for end game players. Not for your mr 10 account so dont bother complaining and stfu

    • @punani_slayer4209
      @punani_slayer4209 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@theworst1069you really are the worst😂

  • @th3stainedrose
    @th3stainedrose Před 3 měsíci

    Ya know, I was fully expecting the melee arcanes to have an "easier"/less rng method of acquisition. But I was not expecting it this quickly. Time to sell my stock before the market drops lol

  • @Storm.Borne.
    @Storm.Borne. Před 3 měsíci

    Seems interesting, I wonder how this works out in squad play

  • @Zelphyrin-fx8vd
    @Zelphyrin-fx8vd Před 3 měsíci

    I've been wondering if I was the only one to make the "Deep dive" connection. Good to know I'm only moderately insane!

  • @rob679
    @rob679 Před 3 měsíci

    How unlocking this thing gonna work? Do I use 2 Netracell keys per run and get rewards depending on difficulty or I unlock the thing then can run how much as I can with whatever difficulty but capped at 5 rewards?

  • @Nanoqtran
    @Nanoqtran Před 3 měsíci +2

    Unsure how I feel about it locking you into a possible weapon set you may never use normally. It's one of the things i hate about the circuit.
    On the other hand this game mode is giving me Hades HEAT vibes and I'm all for it.

  • @dariengarcia3563
    @dariengarcia3563 Před 3 měsíci

    So wait do we get 5 rewards per run? Once we unlock it and it wouldnt mean we get more loot by unlocking 2 times a week?

  • @fuloran1
    @fuloran1 Před 3 měsíci +26

    This has been so sorely needed. REAL endgame content instead of just harder enemies. Space mom be lovin on her children!

    • @talkingbutt3150
      @talkingbutt3150 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Bra REAL endgame is better AI opponent, one that can adapt to the players.
      Not this garbage of forcing you to play garbage frames and weapons.

    • @neoseoul6239
      @neoseoul6239 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@talkingbutt3150 you do realize for that to occur you would be fighting an AI opponents that would easily try to one shot you just like how you try to so easily one shot everything else in the game right?

    • @theunhingedgamer3762
      @theunhingedgamer3762 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@talkingbutt3150 you seem to forget the one detail here and that's that *challenge isn't welcomed by the playerbase at large* because every time they tried to add challenging stuff everyone demanded nerfs to the difficulty and railjack as well as the lich/sister system are literal case and point on this

    • @DawnAfternoon
      @DawnAfternoon Před 3 měsíci +8

      @talkingbutt3150 I swear this "better AI" is continuously parroted like "snake oil" in the zeitgeist of the WF playerbase. No, better AI ain't going to cut it when your can already hit DAMAGE CAP ON AOE.
      You want Enemy AI to matter in Warframe? Unironically? Start demanding nerfs.

    • @metaloverlord7465
      @metaloverlord7465 Před 3 měsíci

      There are no garbage frames, only Tenno like you too shallow to bring out their full potential.​@@talkingbutt3150

  • @KoolaidFragger
    @KoolaidFragger Před 3 měsíci +4

    love the DRG reference, such a good game

  • @CrimsonWalter9092
    @CrimsonWalter9092 Před 3 měsíci

    Okay, I need some clarification here. Is it that we have to consume 2 Netracell attempts for 1 DA? Or do we burn 2 and get to run it as many times as we want?
    Edit 1: I mean in terms of rewards. Do we have to consume another 2 to get more rewards, or is it a one-and-done deal?

  • @estrebel1
    @estrebel1 Před 3 měsíci

    if u can redo it several times till uget all rewards then isnt it better to 1 to collect all the negatives then run the game maybe 4more x cycle with each player so all can get the rewards or am i understanding this wrong?

  • @BaeBunni
    @BaeBunni Před 3 měsíci

    The thing I'm worried about is the warframes on offer have inaros dagath and nyx prime. I hope part is work in progress because if I'm expected to keep and forma up normal and prime versions of warframes as well as all the variants of weapons I'll go completely broke.

    • @ColonelRosa
      @ColonelRosa Před 2 měsíci

      probably the same feature as circuit; if you own prime version, you can only roll the prime version

  • @boat378
    @boat378 Před 3 měsíci

    The QOL patches since Duviri seems like DE is trying to speed up players from early-mid game and get them to end game ASAP, which I'm all here for.

  • @theblacklotussociety7352
    @theblacklotussociety7352 Před 3 měsíci

    So I’m confused. Can we turn on a few modifiers one run to get some rewards then do a run with all the other modifiers on to get the other rewards missed or does it have to be all in 1 run to get all the top loot?

    • @SigmaGuardian66
      @SigmaGuardian66 Před 3 měsíci

      That's the main confusion going around. Unless an official statement is made to clarify, we'll just have to wait for the update.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was told you can keep trying to get all rewards. Its not tied to just 1 run. I'd need them to clarify if you get the first silver chest do you then need to fill the bar higher in the second run for the second silver, then gold the 29 at the end

    • @Joe90h
      @Joe90h Před 3 měsíci

      If it's anything like the Heat gauge in Hades, you would need to get all 29 points in one run by activating as many modifiers/using preselected gear. 5:12 it also seems you need to run a harder version of the mission to get that legendary arcane as you see the padlock icon get scrolled over here, and if that means having to run 60 eyes I might personally just go for a nice, easy 4/5 rewards myself.

  • @redfiend8746
    @redfiend8746 Před 3 měsíci +15

    All the Frame/weapon "suggestions" mean is that this activity needs to be run several times for all of the rewards.
    "Hey kids, wanna use Nyx, Kohm, Hikou and Sarpa against lv 300 enemies that all have overguard?"

    • @dirodekres5132
      @dirodekres5132 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Nyx would make it easy and Khom is a really good weapon I don't get ur point

    • @mtd_epic7759
      @mtd_epic7759 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Complaining about them having ways to make it more difficult? If the rewards are good anyway who cares, just use the warframe and the weapons if u have it and can build properly

    • @DawnAfternoon
      @DawnAfternoon Před 3 měsíci +1

      "Hey kids, wanna use Nyx, Kohm, Hikou and Sarpa against lv 300 enemies that all have overguard?"
      ...Just don't select the Overguard modifier? Granted, Pablo has mentioned that they're still brainstorming on whether to demand either most, or all modifiers. But if they decided on "most modifiers", just don't select Overguard.
      Also, Nyx can hit Level Cap with ease.

    • @dirodekres5132
      @dirodekres5132 Před 3 měsíci

      @@DawnAfternoon exactly

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@DawnAfternoon The only reason the Nyx thing would even matter is because you have to take everything.
      At present: that's the case.
      They're considering making it not the case.
      Ideally, they'll bin the entire rng loadout part.

  • @lordmentat32
    @lordmentat32 Před 3 měsíci +24

    DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE!?
    :P

  • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
    @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci

    3:06 so one can farm some of the loot by ignoring the rng loadout, but actually getting the full loot table is locked behind rng.
    Am I understanding that right? Because when I said that on reddit, people were acting like I was obviously wrong.

  • @pearson674
    @pearson674 Před 3 měsíci

    i’ve been away for awhile so I don’t know if this was clarified ever but is the new “level cap” 1000 now? i swear they never liked enemies going above 200 but now they have Netracells at 200+ and these at 300+

  • @timobatana6705
    @timobatana6705 Před měsícem

    What kind of loot will we get? All I want is shards

  • @thomsgenesis4759
    @thomsgenesis4759 Před 3 měsíci

    Something they didn't explain i believe is how i'ts gonna work in a squad run , like can we spread the modifier to get all the reward , or does each player need to pick each modifier if you want to get everything in one run

    • @JustSippingTea
      @JustSippingTea Před 3 měsíci

      The host probably chooses the modifiers and the enemies scale very strongly with the more players there are, or it's just solo only

    • @thomsgenesis4759
      @thomsgenesis4759 Před 3 měsíci

      @@JustSippingTea yeah but like to get the full bonus , you need to pick between 3 specific frame , primary , secondary and melee , so like maybe one player can take one of the 3 frames , another one of the 3 primary , or maybe they all need to pick their own .

    • @JustSippingTea
      @JustSippingTea Před 3 měsíci

      @@thomsgenesis4759 oh that's what you mean, maybe it'll be dependent on the players so it's player to player not a set rotation

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@JustSippingTeaI think that could be the case, and if that is so it would be way too easy, two players pick all the curses and the other two carry them, then restart and change roles.

  • @gebcrafter
    @gebcrafter Před 3 měsíci

    I was telling my clan about how this reminds me of Deep Dives then I hear an ear shattering FOR KARL come out of my speakers

  • @mikevos4460
    @mikevos4460 Před 3 měsíci

    I do think this is going to be very difficult. Especially when you only get frames in the rotation that have low defensive abilties/tanking.

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      Thats why its for end game players

  • @Mo_sty
    @Mo_sty Před 3 měsíci

    I've been playing this game since 2020 and im yet to get my Primed sure footed, I understand that login rewards are cool and all, but can we replace them with forma/rivens/endo/plat and have these exclusive primed mods show up at baro and be tradable please ?

  • @ifeawosika966
    @ifeawosika966 Před 3 měsíci

    Get your formas ready

  • @TheStrayHALOMAN
    @TheStrayHALOMAN Před 3 měsíci

    I need a krokhur incarnon so bad.

  • @RedShadowOfSaturn
    @RedShadowOfSaturn Před 3 měsíci +10

    When Warframe's "endgame" is compared to other looter shooters, typically raids, a la Destiny, are kind of the go to in what's preferred/desired. This may be a hot take, but I'd rather have THIS than Destiny-style raids, which is what Warframe raids were years ago. This, in my opinion, is better.
    High difficulty, a lot of caveats and wrinkles to deal with, encounters/missions that shift around and change week to week, it's not made to feel "bigger" just because "higher player count." From what I've seen people say about them, Destiny raids have big epic set pieces, but tend to get really boring due to being overly curated. This may not be curated, but when pushing players to work harder for rewards, I think this is a better way to handle it. The people who get the rewards aren't the people who religiously watch CZcams videos until they know every enemy spawn point to cheese. They're the ones who know their gear in and out, they're good with their abilities, they're experienced with their weapon mechanics, and they can adapt to the challenges put in front of them because they play the game well. This type of activity just seems more replayable than, say, Vault of Glass or Law of Retribution, which mostly come down to muscle memory or "okay now we're on THIS step, 1 2 3 go."
    Big set pieces can and SHOULD be saved for campaigns and quests to make THOSE feel epic. Give me bigger challenges and activities like this for the REWARD aspect.

    • @xClownpiece
      @xClownpiece Před 3 měsíci +5

      netracells also taught me people can’t even kill things in a circle, nor can they take polite reminders to without getting toxic (happened just last week)

    • @RedShadowOfSaturn
      @RedShadowOfSaturn Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@xClownpiece Ha, ohhh yes, that is a whole other discussion, for sure. I love how the Warframe community begs for "raids" to either return or new ones be implemented, yet this community is also so hellbent on doing the least work and learning the least amount about a new game mode as humanly possible in favor of flying through things with zero thought.
      Like...how are you simultaneously asking for bigger and more involved activities...while also being a lazy lump who takes no objectives or factors into play? It's wild.

    • @celestialkitsune
      @celestialkitsune Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@xClownpiece People just don't read, plain and simple. They go into public missions usually expecting to be carried. I'd rather solo the netracell with all the debuffs, than go into public and have people drag it out to 10x longer because they can't read the objective, or kill stuff in the GIANT RED CIRCLE ON THE MAP

    • @xClownpiece
      @xClownpiece Před 3 měsíci

      @@celestialkitsune last week i argued w someone who ended up leaving other this
      they had dialogue AND subtitles off??? i didn’t even know that was possible. i was telling them to listen to tagfer and they dropped that crazy ass excuse like what

    • @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli
      @Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli Před 3 měsíci

      rng loadout aside, I'd also be cool with this design style

  • @SGTBlackeye
    @SGTBlackeye Před 3 měsíci

    "You can replay to get all rewards"
    As in, you can pick up half the research points 1 run and the other half the other to get all rewards?
    Or you rerun and still have to pick all research points?

  • @darknetworld
    @darknetworld Před 3 měsíci

    Yeah I get the weapon that I didn't unlock is bad. So getting all weapon to upgrade will be pain.

  • @user-og4lf2zm5k
    @user-og4lf2zm5k Před 3 měsíci

    when dose the update release for netracell changes

  • @marianoel5364
    @marianoel5364 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Is trinity gonna be useful again?😅

  • @silentninja32
    @silentninja32 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I've always hated the restrictions for endgame rewards. Like I didn't put 15 forma, archon shards, and trade around cracking rivens and rep for mods into this build just to be forced to pick some hot garbage loadouts like in duviri. Aaand when you do get a decent loadout you bug out and never get to reap the rewards. Let ME decide what I want to play for the mission instead of forcing me to kneecap my loadouts and dissuade me from ever maxing a build or daring to get creative with one.

  • @HeavenlySaviour
    @HeavenlySaviour Před 3 měsíci

    Ahh the good ol days of Raids

  • @XC11301991
    @XC11301991 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Oh goody, forcing us to play with weapons and frames we don't want again like the circuit if we want to get good rewards.

  • @pixelbros8313
    @pixelbros8313 Před 3 měsíci

    So, per week is, one deep archimidea + 3 netracells, or, 5 netracells ? can't do 2 deep archimidea and one netracells

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Před 3 měsíci

      Deep archimedea cost 2 keys to unlock then you can run it as often as you want but you're limited to 5 rewards per week from it. Which leaves you with 3 keys for netracels. You can't spend anymore keys on Deep Arch.

  • @ignatiousjasentes1658
    @ignatiousjasentes1658 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I think they really need to stop making new systems and improve the older stuff.

  • @SirSquash
    @SirSquash Před 3 měsíci

    its more shit we dont need but im liking the enemy level so i can actually dig in with my weapons instead of killing things instantly

  • @OmegaZyion
    @OmegaZyion Před 3 měsíci +1

    I really don't like the idea of randomized builds for high difficulty endgame content, especially given how expensive it is time and resource wise to create an endgame build for a Warframe that can do level 300+ content. No one is going to want to put in the time and effort to optimize 50+ Warframes, much less all of the weapons as well. I'm not even going to bother with this new mode unless I see that it has a Warframe or weapon I've optimized available to it. The only way I would even consider doing this mode regularly is if there is a separate equipment menu just for this mode where you can freely use every mod in the game, freely change polarities, and freely swap out Archon shards. I'd much rather it be a puzzle to solve than another time waster exclusively for people who have been playing the game for over a decade.

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      Over a decade? Ive been playing 5 month and im ready for this, already mr30

  • @Discokrieg
    @Discokrieg Před 3 měsíci

    The moment Daddy Potato said "circuit runs" I knew right away that I won't touch this. The fact that they hard lock frames and weapons that are pathetically weak choices if you don't own that frame or weapon in an open world is stupid af.

  • @SPACE_BOOOOOST
    @SPACE_BOOOOOST Před 3 měsíci +5

    Making the 3 missions be one big continuous undertaking is such a classic DE ass backwards thing to do. They just announced the Duviri circuit changes where you can retain rewards even if you get disconnected or fail the mission, but now they're introducing a new game mode where if that happens during the second or third one you'll lose all progress and have to replay the whole damn thing.

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      Stop complaining and get a job to buy a decent pc

  • @needbettername8583
    @needbettername8583 Před 3 měsíci

    R5 is so easy to get with the entrati

  • @Sparrow118
    @Sparrow118 Před 3 měsíci

    All I gotta say is bring it on

  • @kuruhona7903
    @kuruhona7903 Před 3 měsíci

    My engame is to get a tennogen skin of Voruna

  • @shadowofthesupremo7898
    @shadowofthesupremo7898 Před 3 měsíci

    Yes oh wow I really like limited time modes, this is really the endgame we need. You log in, you do the limited time mode a bunch of times and then we'll see next week

  • @geammanDW
    @geammanDW Před 3 měsíci

    This isn't a new game mode technically, its just a series of original modes tapped together with mission modifiers, similar to sorties and with circuit rng in it. Meh, the rewards better be good this time.

  • @louurome7030
    @louurome7030 Před 3 měsíci

    I want arcane helmets!!!

  • @dsagent
    @dsagent Před 3 měsíci +2

    They should keep putting in new boss rush mechanics instead of all this repetitive mission grind.

  • @Hanshotchewie
    @Hanshotchewie Před 3 měsíci

    To me, the end game is the shawzin.
    Come on DE, let us record with scale changes.

  • @NotTylerT
    @NotTylerT Před 3 měsíci

    Enemies get stronger but what about us I wanna get stronger too

  • @AKAReynolds88
    @AKAReynolds88 Před 3 měsíci

    Can't wait to run this and get more trash rewards. I dont even do netracells anymore cause it was so boring and not worth cause of trash drop table filled with useless arcanes(now being changed but everyone felt this way week 1).

  • @xClownpiece
    @xClownpiece Před 3 měsíci +3

    i don’t think level 300 steel path enemies will be as difficult as it should be so i’m hoping those modifiers are harsh, but in the other hand all we’re getting as far as i know are those legendary arcanes so i guess it doesn’t need to be that difficult in the first place

    • @marcosalazar4682
      @marcosalazar4682 Před 3 měsíci

      I mean, I can level cap void cascade, so no, level 300 enemies might as well be level 1 enemies.

    • @redfiend8746
      @redfiend8746 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The first modifier they showcased was everything having overguard.

    • @xClownpiece
      @xClownpiece Před 3 měsíci

      @@redfiend8746 not really a big deal they’re just lvl300

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      They not SP, only lvl300

  • @apemasterrace
    @apemasterrace Před 2 měsíci

    Dont tell me i have the grind mutagen mass and fieldron for the weapons i have deleted!!

  • @MrDANGEROUS0
    @MrDANGEROUS0 Před 3 měsíci

    I know my luck I'll get Melee Arcane

  • @squallcloud9378
    @squallcloud9378 Před 3 měsíci +1

    the sudden screaming was weird. 1:26

    • @fuloran1
      @fuloran1 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Rock and Stone!

    • @zer0rama572
      @zer0rama572 Před 3 měsíci +4

      IF YOU AIN'T ROCK AND STONE THEN YOU AIN'T COMING HOME

  • @usefulbobcat
    @usefulbobcat Před 3 měsíci

    R&S ✊

  • @Asghaad
    @Asghaad Před 3 měsíci

    Biggest problem i see here is that we are paying two netracell keys to run set of 3 missions that are vastly harder than sayd netracells to get two netracell drops and any extra rewards require additional modifiers or taking specific "ob offer random roll" equipment...
    Frankly unless you go for the ultimate reward its kinda pointless and will promote toxic practice of taking unviable builds from table expecting someone with viable setup to carry the missions...
    This mode is NOT going to end up well for community and will be extremely toxic...

  • @MegaDoomWaffle
    @MegaDoomWaffle Před 3 měsíci

    I cant even stay alive during archon hunts how the hell.

  • @theunhingedgamer3762
    @theunhingedgamer3762 Před 3 měsíci

    I'll stick with normal netracells simple as that not gonna trash the new mode but I'm not going through the Duviri Circuit-esque nonsense again just for archon shards

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      Archon shards and legendary arcanes

  • @PetroklosZDM
    @PetroklosZDM Před 3 měsíci

    A thing I'm still a bit confused about: Is the weekly progression per run cumulative or is it the score of the best run?
    If I do 40% in one run and 60% at another, am I at 60% (best score) or 100% (cumulative score)?

  • @StevenHawkingsSpitrag
    @StevenHawkingsSpitrag Před 3 měsíci +2

    Oh great, the thing I hate MOST about circuit is now the main feature of the new game mode. And it uses netracells keys? HARD pass 🙄

    • @MultiWar22
      @MultiWar22 Před 3 měsíci

      that's optional, though, you can choose to not use the suggested warframes and/or weapons

  • @mishli7670
    @mishli7670 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I don't know about anyone else, I'm a player who has recently returned... And I'm just getting sick of this...
    I like the idea of endgame stuff... But the circuit keeps giving me combinations of items that are either impossible to make progress with
    Or just feel like shit to play (i don't like snipers and almost always it gives me 2 of them)
    If it's only going to pick from what i have available... Does that mean i need to go back and delete half my inventory so it doesn't give be stuff i forma'd once just because i thought it was silly? (Looking at you hirudo)
    At least in circuit you have decrees to eventually help you scale if the rest of your team doesn't bail on the first mission
    But if we take the screen shot at face value. I've only maybe got 5 frames that can survive level 300 stuff and maybe as many weapons that can kill them...
    Am i just going to be at the mercy of the rng for if i can actually do this mission every week?

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      You dont have to, you good being noob so be it

  • @megamind104
    @megamind104 Před 3 měsíci

    As a player for 10 years, I was expecting "endgame" to involve every aspect of our gear.
    Warframe, operator, archwing, heavy weapons, necramech, and railjack.

    • @eraty1
      @eraty1 Před 3 měsíci

      There is a mode already ingame. Its called Railjack Orphix ))

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      They working on railjack sttuff

  • @khalidsaifullah8823
    @khalidsaifullah8823 Před 2 měsíci

    mission will be hard and hard and hard. i heard rhino rhino rhino

  • @johnsnowdon562
    @johnsnowdon562 Před 3 měsíci

    FFS Dev just give us a a decent endgame that ain't locked behind anything

  • @IsItFate
    @IsItFate Před 3 měsíci

    Wait until people find way to cheese "hard difficulty" again

  • @sinistershadow8698
    @sinistershadow8698 Před měsícem

    Right now. Warframe, look, so damn That you will think it's a AAA game, It's like wine gets better with age

  • @talkingbutt3150
    @talkingbutt3150 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Wait what ?
    More of that bullshit of "You have do use these garbage frame and weapons" is that it ?

    • @DawnAfternoon
      @DawnAfternoon Před 3 měsíci +1

      I agree with the weapons, but Warframes? Considering a Nyx and Caliban can hit Level Cap with ease, and pre-buff Inaros can already survive SP Level 2000 enemies?
      Nah, if you can't make a Warframe work in Level 300, it's a build issue.

  • @AimbotFreak
    @AimbotFreak Před 3 měsíci +7

    If you have to force people into using garbage in order to deliver "end game" it's not end game content. The fact it also eats up 2 netracells is hella garbo, make it it's own thing and just fix netracells drops.

  • @robertsmith20022
    @robertsmith20022 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Just wish they would bring back raids

  • @clayendfield4850
    @clayendfield4850 Před 3 měsíci

    My big criticism is: Why buff a single variant of a weapon/warframe, instead of the entire linage? Once I get a primed weapon/Warframe, the old one gets sold or fed to Helmith. Why would I keep inferior equipment when it costs plat to store something I will never use?
    If DE fixed that issue, and limits the selection to equipment the individual player already owns, I'm game. Otherwise eff this new "endgame", cause it's punishing players for choosing the gear they want to play with.
    There's enough crap in this game gated behind gamemodes that punish player choice; I'm not participating in another. Having to mine and fish, and complete monotonous challenges in Nightwave in order to access content was enough to put me off Warframe for 2 years. I just got back, started enjoying the game again (It seems Nightwave has been on repeat since I left; lol DE made another dead gamemode), and now this is already making me consider bailing again.

  • @Dubulcle
    @Dubulcle Před 3 měsíci

    All of that for 1 legendary arcane? And they still haven't improved netracell drop table??

    • @theworst1069
      @theworst1069 Před 2 měsíci

      And 3 archon shards

    • @Hellblaze1989
      @Hellblaze1989 Před měsícem

      Are you newbie huh?
      Once upon a time, where something called "law of retribution"
      And you must complete 3 nission in a row, up to 8 players.
      Just to get ONE arcane, per week.

  • @thebomber7641
    @thebomber7641 Před 3 měsíci +1

    In endgame we... I dont trust