Custom Mercedes Subwoofer! + Tune ANY Amp with a Multimeter!
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- We finally here at the final part of our Sub and Amp install and tune in the Mercedes Benz 300 Project.
This is a straight forward step by step instructions.
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Visual Ice Info (Sub woofer Enclosure):
Visual-Ice-421234901385701/
Hit Him Up: visual-ice@hotmail.co.uk
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Keep it simple and relax, Take your time. I'm not responsible if you screw up and damage your car in anyway shape or form. TAKE YOUR TIME.
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Due to factors beyond the control of Raymond Urias, I cannot guarantee against improper use or unauthorized modifications of this information. Raymond Urias assumes no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Use this information at your own risk. Raymond Urias recommends safe practices when working on vehicles and or with tools seen or implied in this video. Due to factors beyond the control of Raymond Urias, no information contained in this video shall create any expressed or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage, or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or from the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not Raymond Urias. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Dude in a different parallel universe you're my good friend and you just showed me how to wire my SL350 in person... for a cup of tea.. in the UK. Thanks Dude. that video saved me almost £ 900 in labour.. yep I can do this myself as a hobby not a quick fix
Just joined the mb club. Found your videos to be the best explained, have the coolest tips/tricks n upgrades, and most entertaining! 👀
IMPORTANT NOTICE: I love me a peanut butter cookie with little peanut chips! 😋
i realize I'm kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch new series online ?
i have the an inclosure from visual ice for my BMW 325xi wagon , it works beautifully
Yesss finally, good stuff bro, like the new intro btw. Oh and I got the capacitor, thank you!!
ChapCity YaBish Thanks man! Happy to hear you got it.
So basically with a sub amp and high/mid amp i would have to set the lc2i for both ...so I would have to hook everything up then adjust all at ones correct?
Hey, what did you have the threshold screw set too on the lc2i??? 👍thanks for the vid, great info!!!
You did it again! Nice Work.
+Michael Gates Thanks man!
that was a nice surprise in the end top man 🖒
Hey broo I just connect my system to my c300 u make me save $500 dollars the car toy's was wanted to charge me! Thanks broo 2 bad u sale ur benz!😎👍💯
What size is the custom wood platform you made for your LC2i an Amp?
Hey Ray! Love your videos! I have a question for you or anyone who’s doing this specific install. First some basics info:
2015 c300 4matic. (I think thats w205..)
Kicker mono sub amp rated at 400 RMS.
LC2i line out converter
10” JLw03 as recommended in wedge enclosure
Question 1: Reading up on the wiring gauges I found you could wire this single amp with 8 AWG for about 7-10 feet. While I think its always safe/wise to run 4 AWG I’m curious to know if it’s would be ok to use the 8 AWG amp kit I already own? Also, do you have to add in the the line out 12v as a draw on that wiring? AudioControl recommends 16 AWG for their products.
Question 2: did you need to take audio feed from both sides of the car? I’m hoping one side of the rear stage will do the trick.
Thanks! Love the videos! I’ll share photos/video when I’m done!
What about the fiber optic system for the eclass, can you retain all the speakers?
Nice set of videos for this type of install. I have a '10 E550 coupe and I did go through Visual Ice for my enclosure. I was impressed with the quality and turn around time from ordering. I plan to do my install this spring. The one question I have that was not covered is. Did you leave your factory Sub hooked up or did you "dq" it and just run the JL? I also heard that the newer HK sys7 sub is DVC. do you know if this true? Thanks in advance.
My car did not come with a factory sub but if it did I would leave it. This sub was a game changer for sound it filled the car perfectly. The new benz are DVC confirmed! Did one not to long ago.
hey man, love your channel (and subscribed) this question isn't related to this video but i just installed an aftermarket headunit in my bmw m3 e93 and even when there is nothing playing i get this buzzing/humming sound coming from the speakers.. it gets louder and quieter with volume.. any idea how to get rid of it? thanks!
+KwlAznKid Thanks man. There are a few reasons why this could be happening. The main one is an improper ground connection. Crutchfield did q great article on this about 3 years ago.
www.crutchfield.com/S-fZhZWXLLG2X/learn/learningcenter/car/noise_suppressors_installation_guide.html
Oatmeal Raisin! Thanks for the awesome video!
+Apparel of Choice That should not be classified as a cookie! lol Best of luck
How do I connect the remote wire or where is located the remove wire on a 2010 Mercedes Benz E350
LOL I pause the video at the end thinking it was over then read the comments so I had to finish the video. What a great surprise! My favorite is oatmeal raisin, don't let your rabbit pick the winner this time. He doesn't like me. lol
+Vincent T. Haha nah he loves everyone
+Vincent T. czcams.com/video/aWG71dWTf30/video.html
Yup saw that video today and it's looking sweet! Looking forward seeing you black out the side marker lights.
Vincent T. ....then you know you won the 12" sub. I need you message me your information
Woohoo! I replied to your message and thank you. Doin' the happy dance!
I just saw this video for first time. I also have a box built by the same guy. I got it for JL Audio 8w7ae. I have a 2010 w204. So its literally the same design.
im running the
JL Audio 8w7ae
The Epicenter from Audio Control
Rockford Fosgate Power 501bd
(birthsheet says 680w @ 2ohm)
Stock electrical
No Capacitor
Next Project will be building dual sealed fiberglass box for my 2 8w7s.
(been using a single for 4 years but bnib 2nd 8w7 has been in basement since then)
I currently blew my hardan Becker amp ,and now I get no sound out my speakers at all ....
How do I connect an aftermarket amp to all speakers ?? Where do I tap into , at factory amp or is there another location?
Btw just suscribed and hit they bell 🛎
Multimedia package
any benefits over using an amp that has high level inputs? seems excessive given the voltages amplifiers are able to detect these days
Hi Raymond,
Iam curious if you can still access the spare tire once the sub and box are installed?
Yup still had full access, just had to make sure the flap went under the sub fully or it gets wrinkles
Hi
I know this is old but helped me with setting up bass in my E class. Thanks to you for sharing the contact I now have a custom box built by a pro.
I went with a JD amp which is able to take speakers wires but problem with that is my factory speaker voltage is almost 12volts at higher volumes and the amp can take upto 8volts safely so to combat this I’ve bought me an LC2i. The factory stereo EQ controls the bass level coming out from the sub and so hopefully accubass should overcome this issue for me.
Did you select the hi or low on the amp for input?
Low. Higher voltage coming in is because the E class has amplified speakers. Make sure you pulled the source pre amp. If you pulled from the amp your gain setting are going to be wack
Hi @@RaymondUrias
My E class is a W212 and has a basic 8 speaker set up, 4 mid/low door speaker and 4 tweeters so didn’t think has an stock amplifier, am I wrong? I’m getting decent bass and gains are about a quarter way up currently have it set at high input but it’s crap when the comand EQ bass is flat. I’m feeding the amp around 30volts so that’s 450watts at 2ohms
Did you end up having to run a remote wire to the amp?????
Best videos i know its old but helped with eclass went with jl c1 front and back and 2 jl 11s w0 in back
how to connect this to the bose optical system
yay part 2 ^_^
Great video sir! How did you wire the cable through firewall?
There is a rubber grommet that you can pass it through. I showed it in the video
Any suggestions on my clk 209
Great 👍🏽 video!!
+Rugerman205 thanks brother
Hello thanks a lot.
I tried connecting a subwoofer to Audi A5 2014 but couldn't see the speaker cable. Can you help?
Where did you tap your remote wire from your JL audio amp in the trunk?
You can use the mercedes fuse block. #72 is an unused and switched 12v supply, so when the car is off, the line is dead. So just use a fuse tap from amazon.
What if u wanna put in another amo..like a interior amp . Do u still have to adjust the knobs on the lc2i
Shawn G yes you do. Audio Controls makes an amp with a built in line level converter
For a sub amp installation on a C300 with a Harman Kardon sound system, should the phase on the amp be left at 0 or 180? what is the correct way to set this?
+Kajen Stockert GREAT question. It should be 0. I would still encourage you to always double check using a polarity tool. They are cheap and a great way to prevent damage to your speakers.
www.amazon.com/TOOGOO-Speaker-Polarity-Tester-Phasemeter/dp/B00ZTA8XMI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00&linkCode=sl1&tag=deansamazonst-20&linkId=bab0844b3665affd219ed3032e2ee2b9
Hey, got into a fender bender and had to use my extra bread. Was wondering if you could tell me the budget for this project?
ChapCity YaBish OH NO! I hope you are ok! At least you got it on your dash cam.
The total cost for all the parts was about $500.
I need to find out what color cables to tap into in a 2015 c250 and the link on the vid isn’t working. I found a schematic but they say rear sorround sound speakers. They look like urs but I see that ur schematic actually has the words “rear speakers”
Hey I got a s430 I don’t have a battery post in the front of the car only battery in the back I got a subwoofer with a amp already attached to the kicker
I know this is an old video but hopefully someone is still around with an answer. Is the more expensive LOC completely necessary? Or could I run a cheaper one for the time being?
Why not the small battery in the boot ? , thanks
I have a w211 with an LC2i connected but the shop actually grabbed the signal from the factory amp stock subwoofer connection? Would that make a difference in sound I was honestly disappointed on the outcome. (I have a Rockford p3 15’ and a Hifonics Gemini elite 2500 and I know there’s way more potential!!
They can grab the signal from there. if that's what they were doing then I don't understand why they bothered using an lc2i they should have just gone straight to the high level inputs for your subwoofers amplifier. That particular subwoofer should hit very hard! if it's not then there is probably a tuning issue and the gain needs to be adjusted.
Could it be safe or do u know a way I could do it
after all, is the opening on the Visual Ice enclosure 10 in or 12 in?
Just emailed Murray. He can make it 10" or 12", but you have to contact him. From the ebay order I wasn't able to select the size.
Hey Raymond quick question, I have a 2016 E350 with dual batteries. There is one in the trunk. Can I run my amp power supply from the rear battery or do I need to go all the way to the front battery?
You want to run it to the main battery always
Anything chocolate cookie wise. Ok My car has the Harman Kardon system, can I/ should I update this.. Can I do the same thing you did... Thanks Ray, love your channel!
+Christine Webber Harman system complicates things just a little. The speakers are amplified so there are 4 wires going to each speaker. The wire colors should still be the same. If you find out that's not the case then you can pull the signal from behind the radio quadlock
Raymond Urias thanks! Will have to watch again and look for local guys to customize my subwoofer.. Tough thing is fitting 2 sets of golf clubs with a big speaker in the back..🤣
Does the lc2i add to the watts used from the sub? I’m trying to figure out what amp I need for my setup or does the lc2i have nothing to do with what amp I pick? Besides it being a monoblock
the lc2i adds about 10w which reduces the incoming stress on the amp. when you buy an amp just make sure its greater then the sum of all your speakers RMS. In my case this sub has an RMS rated of 300w at 4 OHM. SO my AMP needs to be rated at 400+ when wired in the 4 OHM config. I show you how to do the math @16:47
Raymond Urias alright I think I got it, I’ve watched this video about 5x trying to figure everything out 😂 thanks for the help 👍
Double stuffed Oreo!!!!!! Thanks for the shoutout brother!
+Brian Richman Have a fun birthday!
Raymond Urias just hit back from the hard rock, recovery mode now lol
+Brian Richman ohhhhh I know what you mean!
Raymond Urias I'm too old for this lol
+Brian Richman I say that all the time....and each year I'm suckered back in!
Where do you hook up the lc2i to your speakers? In a glc 300?
mbworld.org/forums/glc-class-x253/666457-speaker.html
Tap rear speakers or the behind the radio rear speaker signal wires
Where did you get your 34.64 formula? Is that a standard? Thanks
Standard ohms law. There are fancy tools that do this for you but this is the equation the fancy tools use.
I have a have 2015 Mercedes c class 300 4matic can this be done on mine i want to put a box of 5 speakers and 2 big tweeters.
2015 has fiber going to the doors of some models. It would be best to pull the signal from behind the radio.
Where would I put the starter wire if I do not have the same converter as you? PLEASE ASAP
Fuse panel in the trunk. Find one that turns on when the car turns on
So... my glk350 has components on the front and mid woofers on the rear doors. However, in the trunk (trunk panel) it has space for small speakers. I was thinking of a 5channel nvx amp to power everything with a sub too. What do you suggest??
+1ELiMusic what year is the GLK? Thoes nvx amps are nice and small like the new Rockford fosgate I like them
It's the 2013 "facelift" model. M276 engine (X204). However, my truck does not have the HK sound system, though it would been easier to add/install everything else. I do too, I like NVX and RF. I was actually thinking of combining NVX with JL's. The sub has to be really small in depth, so the tw3 would be sick (JL sub) and NVX JAD900.5 (amp).
There's like 1-3 articles and videos of the facelift GLK with the aftermarket sound system
czcams.com/video/bS-SDCtH5JA/video.html this is THE ONLY VIDEO lol
So a setup like that in the link posted, would be dope, however, I wanna be able to carry my spare tire. This guy didn't care if he gets a flat tire... I do. Hence the reason why I want the TW3 from JLaudio.
+1ELiMusic if you have the H/K there is a factory Amp. You could have that swapped out for a new unit that runs more efficient. You will have to run a new power to that location. From there you have a choice if you want to change the wires going to the door or keep the factory ones. In my opinion the factory wires are very good and can handle up to 60ish watts. It's definitely something you can do and you DONT have to give up your spare tire. You can make a amp rack under the passenger or drivers seat and put the amp there. Same for the Sub you can put the amp in another location and run the wires to the sub.
Hi Raymond,
I just orderd myself a subwoofer enclosure from visual ice for my W204! Iam curious if i really need a LC2i or not ive never used one with my set up before? Also my Amplifier is 9 1/16" wide and that amp rack is only 7.5" my dreams of using that location might be crushed :( or can i make it work still?
LC2i is up to you. It fills in the lack of bass in the low volume range and takes stress off the amplifer. What amp are you using, mine is out dated they have gotten much smaller since this video. How many watts and what is the RMS rating on the Sub? If you are resting an old amp then I understand. There should still be room there or you can mount it to the back seat.
@@RaymondUrias iam using an Alpine MRX-M110 and an Apline Type R SWR-12D4 plus a Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad capacitor which im not sure iam going to use unless i ditch the stealth idea and just mount everything to the rear seat.
@@RaymondUrias i believe my amp is rated around 550-650RMS at 4 ohms and the sub recommends 250-1000RMS its a good match up imo. I have used a sealed box and ported box in my previous car 2003 BMW 525i M Sport 5speed manual liked the sealed box better.
HELP please. I have a 2012 c 300 sport with Harmon k surround sound with logic. Parcel shelf sub woofer died, barely a wimper. Now door panel mid ranges are whisper quiet. Need to replace door have card tools to replace broken handle. What are the right products for speaker replacements. Don't know uhmn from watts so need to be dumb proof! Most appreciated.
This video should help you
czcams.com/video/5vHXHb5q69A/video.html
Hilarious... he pulled a "ferris Bueller" move!!! LOL
Hey bro where do you connect the control to? You didn’t show that part
Please re watch the video....
Answer is @ 4:00
I'm using an LC2i with GTOF
Raymond Urias hella late lol bro where were you when I needed you lol jk jk I have 5k watts now to 2 Zvx 12s. But your videos helped me tremendously when I started
IS THAT A CAPYBARRA?
I have a 800 w rms x 1 ohm amplifier connected to a 2 ohm dvc wired as 1 ohm 12" subwoofer rated at 800 w rms. Should my amp voltage be sqrt(1600) or sqrt(800) ?
SQRT (800x1)= 28.28
Target = 26v
**You need to make sure that your amplifier and your subwoofer are both rated for 1 ohm if they are not it is going to fry everything. Not every subwoofer and amplifier can achieve 1 ohm **
@@RaymondUrias Thank you! That's what I set it to. The amp's stable at 1 ohm, a kicker cx 800.1 and a skar svr 12" 2 ohm dvc. Any tips on breaking in the subwoofer?
Im going to do a video how i did mine. Same car but i ran my wires to the head unit :)
That would be awesome
I would be happy to post your link when the video is ready
excellent video. how do i hook up an Lc7i to a 2012 dodge ram 1500 larimer. going to use a kiker 1200.1 amp for 2 subs annd a kenwood xr400.4 for the highs and mids thnk u
LC7i is a beautiful and the signal summing really cleans up the sound.Go behind your radio and use stinger speed wire to connect to your factory colors and hook them into the 7i then from the 7i to your amps. Then run new wires to your doors. It's a bit of work but totally worth it to have the best sounding ram!
thnk u. i appreciate the feedback. what stinguer u recomend. i have 9 speakers and a built in amp. its a pioneer built in system
also ive heard to connect after the built in amp
fernando gonzalo why, you won't need that amp if you are amplifing them from another amp
Raymond Urias. ya i was only going by there installation drawing on there website. shows two ways. one with and the other without the built in amp
What if the amp and lc2i are both on but no sub what could be the problem?
No signal
Woofer not plugged in
Use multimeter and check everything before hand
how do you make a nob in the front to control the bass
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I have a 2006 e350 and want to make the radio louder than it is especially through the aux input, what do you suggest.
+bart hill you actually have a few options
Cheapest- Go into your sound settings in the radio and increase the aux level
Cheaper- Make sure your aux device volume is all the way up when plugged in
Cheap- Download an AP on your phone called "Boost volume" and readjust your phone settings
Fair- Buy an auxiliary input amplifier they are anywhere from $25-60
Expensive- Upgrade all your door speakers and amplify the entire car audio
Thanks for your time, I am going to try the aux input amp but if it doesn't do the job then I will get a amp I seen at a stereo shop, it's $150 and If it needs a audio controller gona go with the LC2i. On a side note I have a 2004 Ford Ranger that has a Sony stereo w/built in amp that was purchased at Wal-Mart for around $100 I think and it sounds amazing, base, super high volume, crisp sound it's unbelievable, well anyway thanks again for your help your video was the most informative that I've seen for this kind of car.
2006 e350 update, shop installed a jl 1200 watt amp, no convertor was necessary, amp and install $290.
bart hill I bet it sounds a million times better!
O yes except I lost about four radio stations that the seek button stops on, it still stops on those stations but there is no sound, maybe because no convertor was used, and the reception on the others stations isn't as good as before.
where do you grabb the factory wires for hook the amp
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Thanks
Very easy I'm going to start working on my car..
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Oh and my favorite cookie is oatmeal raisin, remind Elvis who his favorite is 😈
+ChapCity YaBish LMFAO!!!
Bamboo ass red is my fav color 👌🏽
+J.L LMFAO!
Raymond Urias you sold me on the holbrooks, they're on the way 😁😁
+J.L THATS BADASS! I F#$& love them!!
I am confused how you come whit result from 34,64 volts!?
Ohms law. The calculation is @16:50
Macadamia is my favorite cookie
Peanut butter chocolate chip cookie ftw!
Where's the remote wire go???
I seen it never mind
where did you hook remote control to did not mention or see at all
LC2i creates a remote signal so no need to tap into fuses or radios
@@RaymondUrias Hey Raymond so i got a 2011 GL450 not sure how similar the wiring is but here is my thing...i have experience ive been installing audio for a few years and truth is never worked with BENZ b4 ok long story short...i have the X164 model and not sure where to tap in my JL LOC-22 idk but i dont think my model has a factory sub so on the LOC there is left and right + and - so just wanna know simply if you know of where i can get the wiring diagram schematics for it and if no sub factory then which wires can i tap into from the rear fuse box panel on the passenger side trunk..EE thanx brotha great post
Oh and more importantly did you run the LC2i of the amp connects ...power---remote---ground?..Just directly into the Amp connections or did you go off the factory wiring..Thx
ok just saw that part so hook the LOC to the amp Power Amp Ground Amp Remote GOT IT!
Where did u Get power from to your output converter?
LC2i doesn't need a remote wire and I took it from feed coming from the battery and shared it with the amp
@@RaymondUrias thanks for the help.
@@RaymondUrias Another question. can i just Connect the remote cable from my lineout converter to the amp?
@@babbarsheer8519 what line converter are you using
@@RaymondUrias ground zero gzcv 2.0HL
Do you need the LC2i?
You need some sort of line output converter. If you're going to buy one why not buy the best one. This one can take the load off your main amplifier so you don't have to set the gain so high increase the lifespan of your sound system and make it sound better
@@RaymondUrias even if my amp is only a 250?
@@KeithJenkinsJr even more reason, small amp needs it the most.
Oopops
Hi I have a 2015 GL350 , can you fix a video Pl...
Artiom Aghajanyan comment missing some words.
Hi please, can you record video on how to upgrade the speakers on MB GL 350 in 2015
Artiom Aghajanyan I would if I ever worked on one lol. You have to be careful with that car it could have fiber-optic audio....if it does it's a whole mess, doable but a mess
what this means fiber-optic audio?
If I"m just upgrade the speakers ?? should it work?
Please tell me how to work on this with 2 channels? So without using the bridge.
I have 2 pieces 100 watt RMS subwoofer 4 OHM.
Do I Need to have 26 per channel or like 13 per channel then?
www.crutchfield.ca/S-5AR14JaRSNg/learn/learningcenter/car/subwoofers_wiring.html
Maybe this will help you see it better
@@RaymondUrias It does not tell me anything about how much my Multimeter should be showing
@@MrArjanOskam you didn't say anything about tuning you're missing one important factor what is your RMS for your amplifier? Not peak
@@RaymondUrias It's the X-Fire EFX1000.1 and if I may believe the advertisement. It should be 500 watts RMS and 1500 watts peak.
The subs are JBL Fuse 2x 100 watt RMS and 300 watt peak at 4 OHM
@@MrArjanOskam ok so I would wire them to have a 4ohm final at the amp.
Sqrt(200x4) = 28.28 set at the amp
Your only variable is the final ohm, I would recommend 4
hahaha doooope!
OMFG.. I HATE YOU RAYMOND!!! You have me now wanting to put a woofer and AMP in my car! WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?? I'm too old for that shit!!!
LMAO
+Bernie Cruz Your NEVER too old for a subwoofer! It brings every audio system to life!!! And this is only 1 10" so it's not over kill it just fills in the empty bass void. Trust me, even my dad has one in his car and he loves it and he's 68!
👍😎❗
O R E O ' S - Since '87
+1ELiMusic Your God damn right lol
I disconnected my battery to do the job now my car don’t start?
You need to reconnect it 😒 mak sure you have them on tight
Raymond Urias hey. Thanks. I did reconnect the battery, nice and tight. Still won’t turn on!!!
Maybe a dead battery check using a voltage meter. I don't know what you did to your car, recheck all your connections and make sure you didn't unplug something. Depending on the age of your car you ESL could have gone bad.
chocolate chip is my favourite
+ibrahim manssour My man!
Raymond Urias I can't believe am watching u and watching u at the same time really a big fan of and ur work
ibrahim manssour Thanks man!!!! May the rabbits be in your favor 😀
why didn't answer to question's people ?
.....it's 3 years old....and more than likely I answered the question. Ctrl+F will help you out. If I didn't answer it then ask.... That's better then most other CZcamsrs, good luck getting an answer after 3 years
Please don't use a multimeter to tune with. Too much risk for clipping and blowing a sub. Use a distortion detector or an oscilloscope for precise, quality/SAFE tuning. Check out Steve Meade Designs for top quality tools. You won't be disappointed.
Are u Indian?
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