Why does Bulgaria want to have a say in North Macedonia’s constitution?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- There is currently no dialogue between Bulgaria and North Macedonia - this is the latest statement by Bulgarian President Rumen Radev over an ongoing dispute with Skopje. He made the remarks after his North Macedonian counterpart Stevo Pendarovski said he hasn't had a single constructive conversation with Radev in the last two years. Sofia and Skopje have been at odds over language, history and the rights of ethnic Bulgarians in North Macedonia. Skopje earlier announced it would include Bulgarians in the preamble as a constitutive people to avoid Sofia's repeated EU blockades. Bulgaria's foreign minister said he wished to be consulted during the process. Pendarovski has condemned the Bulgarian request as scandalous, and added that a demand to interfere in the internal process of any country is unprecedented and absurd.
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Bulgarians dont have a problem with North Macedonia having their own macedonian people. The consept is born and obviously liked by the people there. The past cant return and there is no real need to go that far anymore.
The problems come with the fact that any people group on the Balkans even those without a nation state are written by name in the constitution to have rights, bulgarians are the only ones excluded. Their media there ( and those who potentionally report in the same way on the topic and the risk for the country ) are blowing in upsurd ways the problem and just put on more fear into the macedonians.
History should be honoured but that doesnt mean that we must go back, even TRT would probably know or find that even the Ottomans in their last countings of the populations in the empire had majority bulgarians in Macedonia and yet they want to be different now, okay. Germany and Austria are very similar in history and language and are considered german peoples, not germanic which are like the same with others slavs for us. Austria still has as a language dialect of German but its still different but that doesnt bother them, they have at least 500 years of history as a state and still are considered close to Germany and its people and yet Austria needed to start from somewhere not take history from others. North Macedonia to be angry at us stating facts and fear anything, when it depends on their own desire to write history of their own in its future not past, is a conflict they need to fix as it is upsurd. It is dishonour to the history and fate of any dead man on that land or any nationality to screw that much with history to keep old ideologies meant for a past time.
Saying they are victims when progress is in their own hands would be funny at best. As to the right of who has what say in the constitution, well my guess is when you wont do it right on your own might as well do it for you so no conflicts come in the future. NM is in NATO talking about conquering stuff when Ukraine got help and is surviving and its not in NATO again is stupid fear, like what, we arent going to conquer anything. If anything would be more trouble. Bulgaria is in to position to really influence anyone for a while and that might be nice actually, no one seeks us for much.
Bulgarians will keep seeing their history and thus identity stolen by Skopians for as long as they call them "Macedonians". They are trying to steal Bulgarian history because they are trying to steal Greek one. They are trying to forge a path to antiquity so rename Bulgarians into "Macedonians".
Zero Macedonians in Skopje. 100 percent fake country and people. Bulgaria and greeks need to work together on this issue or else they foreign apologists (including Turkish state) will use them as a proxy to harass both our countrys.
@@mydogsbutler
*М А К Е Д О Н И Ј А*
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I wish every peace and success to both North Macedonia and Bulgaria. As an outsider, this issue seems to be a growth spurt these countries are experiencing as they continue to develop and integrate into this modern world. And I see no practical reason this has to be an issue between these two countries on the political level.
Simply put: leave history outside of politics.
As these professors seem to agree, history should be left to the historians to sort things out. That's what historians are trained for. This matter of history is only relevant in the political arena if recent atrocities had been committed between either parties and there are hard physical disputes to be settled.
North Macedonia and Bulgaria are in a very favorable position to get along in the future if they learn to debate history freely outside the political arena. I understand there are concerns and potential worries, but the good news is, no hard critical conflict has arisen yet. People from both countries should acknowledge and appreciate this fact and express it to their political representatives.
Politicians should only stick to the practical matters. If there are concerns about land disputes or ethnic discriminations, do the research, report the current state of affairs, state clearly the expectations from both parties on this issue, and come to an agreement. And this process does not have to involve history. It only involves stating clearly what and where belongs to which party and what must be done to protect civilians mutually shared between them ethnically and nationally.
"leave history outside of politics":.
I.e. you suport the former Yugoslavians propaganda to hide your mistake of recognizing these obvoius frauds as "Macedonians".
Maybe the Bulgarian language is just a Macedonian dialect?
It's the other way around.
It's all petty nonsense. Super lame loser behavior on both sides. Pathetic.
pred 12 veka KIRIL i METODIJ AVTORI NA GLAGOLICA.
NAUM i KLIMENT OHRIDSKI AVTORI NA KIRILICA.
vo MAKEDONIJA ---- LUGJE govorat MAKEDONSKI JAZIK ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Good April Fools.
@@seokjin3000 I WISH YOU NICE YEAR ! ! ! Tatjana
so useless discutient was that, both didn't have idea what they are talking about
Bulgaria is concern about discrimination against Bulgarians who life in N. Macedonia there are many cases where people who say they are Bulgarians or have Bulgarian roots was fire from jobs, refuse services, refuse opportunities/benefits or even outright beaten up and all that was encourage from the government for many years
so until those thing stop happening no one should there demand Bulgaria to bent
Mainly provocations and lies, i have not met a single person with that type of discrimination, before the veto, but after , im not sure, there might be some issues, but arguing wount help there.
@kiril mitrev You speak pure nonsense, but maybe you actually believe your government's lies and manipulations. Bulgarian discrimination, provocation, lies, and blackmail, against Macedonians, however, are FACT, and Bulgaria's discrimination and abuse of human rights against Macedonians on numerous occasions, has actually been investigated and documented and Bulgaria has been found guilty on each occasion but they refuse to comply with the recommendations of the international human rights groups.
And fancy blackmailing the Republic of Macedonia to allow a so-called cultural "club" to open on their land, named after a fascist thug! If you're half as well-informed as you pretend, you'll know exactly who I mean.
@Bojan Petrushevski lol Bojane look how many Macedonians has Bulgarian passport and then look how many Bulgarians does live in Macedonia 🤣🤣🤣
Also, can you please explain to me how your grand grand parents are Bulgarians, but you're not?
@@KuchekTime Bulgarian passports are sought by Macedonians who wish to work in EU countries, which they can’t do on their Macedonian passports because of Bulgarian fascism, holding the country to ransom. (Old habits die hard.)
The number of Bulgarians in Macedonia could barely fill a small cinema. But when are you going to recognise the Macedonians in Bulgaria?
The great grandparents of the current generations of Macedonians did not call themselves ‘Bulgarian’ and certainly not in a personal sense. That was a name others (the authorities) used to refer to the citizens who attended the Exarchate churches and schools (often through bribery or coercion) as opposed to the Patriarchate church - the only two churches available at the time. The multi-ethnic, multi-lingual populations of Greece were called Romioi (Romans). Does this make them Italian today? Even your honest historians state that the term “Bulgarian” was a politonym, not an ethnonym. Of course, when Russia created Bulgaria in 1876, YOUR ancestors may have chosen to become Bulgarian - but that doesn’t mean the whole population did. What a mental illness to force others to be something they do not identify as!
Btw, your country’s attempt to have the handful of Bulgarians in Macedonia recognised as an official minority is an inadvertent admission that Bulgarians and Macedonians are not the same people. Your pollies didn’t think that through….
@@KuchekTime *“The term “Bulgarian,” which had earlier been used to refer to all the Slavs of the Ottoman Empire (Friedman 1975:84) or as a virtual symbol for “peasant” without any political significance at all came to mean “Bulgarian” in a national sense.” (Wilkinson 1951:149)
“Western travellers to Macedonian quickly realised that the term “Bulgarian” was locally used to describe poor peasant Slavs.”
“In an attempt to incorporate the people of Macedonia into the “imagined” national communities represented by the Serbian, Bulgarian and Greek states, terms of collective identity, which were in common use and which *HAD NO CONNOTATION OF NATIONAL IDENTITY WHATSOEVER,* experienced a form of sematic slippage and took on new national meanings. Thus “rum,” meaning “Orthodox Christian” a term that could refer to someone who spoke Albanian, Bulgarian, Turkish or Greek, WAS REINTERPRETED BY GREEK NATIONALISTS TO MEAN “GREEK” in a national sense. THE TERM “BULGARIAN,” WHICH HAD EARLIER BEEN *USED TO REFER TO ALL* THE SLAVS OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE (Friedman 1975:84), or as a virtual *SYNONYM FOR “PEASANT” WITHOUT ANY POLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE* at all (Wilkinson 1951:149), came to mean “Bulgarian” in a national sense.” The Macedonioan Conflict, L.Danforth
Volgobulgarians are tatars Macedonians are Balkans people.
Then u are the same as bulgarians
If there is North MACEDONIA CAN BE South -East and
West MACEDONIA
Macedonians don't do provocations like bulgaria they say macedonia is Bulgarians that's like macedonians saying pirin is macedonian
The Bulgarian representative talks alot over the topic and doesnt represent much, if its for showing both sides. I havent seen someone who actually would have consept of the history, overall view of the people in both countries and for the politicians as other seperate group.
Bulgaria can jump in the Rever first Nothing to do with Masedonija EU NATO don't Involveed out.
Lol kid learn to spell.
... learn to write, and maybe to think too...
It's very easy to find Macedonians in Bulgaria, There are no blgarians in macedonia simply...The End.
Wrong. Most people in Macedonia are ethnically Bulgarian
In Your Dreams there is No Bulgarians in Macedonia
@@dragcesukoski2677 Even if we assume there is a Macedonian ethicity, eventhough there isn't, due to the countries being neighubours, it is impossible that there is not a single Bulgarian in the region, as you suggest.
Каков е бил Георги Делчев, а Борис Дрангов, а Даме Груев, а Христо Татарчев, а Димитър Талев, хиляди са биле българските македонци ( македонските българи ) - хиляди!
Да го негирате тоа е грех и дива шизофрения!
The Bulgarians accept the right of today's citizens of North Macedonia to be accepted as they wish. They are against claiming that the Bulgarians before them were Macedonians. This is called falsifying history and defaming the memory of the dead. Indeed, today's Macedonians are mongrels between Serbs and Bulgarians mainly, since 1945 it has been codified and language based on the Bulgarian dialect of southwestern Bulgaria. So, yes, today's inhabitants of North Macedonia may consider themselves to be something different. This means that we have a completely new people who continue to assimilate the Bulgarians who resisted the repression in Yugoslavia. That is why they do not want to include the preserved Bulgarians in their constitution.
Няма по-лицемерна нация от тях, не стига, че ''етническите'' македонци станаха от 65% на 58% през 2023.
And the 0.12% Bulgarians in Macedonia are irrelevant, they can classify themselves as whatever they want, just dont open Fashist themed clubs.
This is the exact same argument Greeks gave, don' falsify history by claiming htem Macedonians. It was ok for as long as Greeks were being harassing. Now that Bulgarians are being similarly harassed you finally can see how its wrong.
The solution isn't agreements the former Yugoslavians break. The solution is removable of the name "Macedonia". For as long as they are using the term, the fanatically element which makes up around half their population will continue to peddle fake history.
Macedonia is just a fictional country and it is part of Bulgaria. But unfortunately the truth hurts for Macedonians.😂
They are Serbians not macedonian.
Serbia will save north macedonia if bulgaria starts trouble .
@@Tony-sr2qd You wish, but Macedonia is part of Bulgaria and always will be. The Serbs are only changing the name to "North Macedonia", but the territory is bulgarian. Serbia should be afraid of Bulgaria, because it is not in NATO and at the moment, in which Bulgaria decides, can cause great damage to Serbia.
@@Tony-sr2qd Macedonia is Bulgarian region from many centuries. And before 1st balkan war everyone in the macedonian region celled themself Bulgarians. After the World wars the Serbs force the Bulgarians to call themselves "Macedonians" or they will kill them.
What claims Bulgaria have over Macedonia or Macedonians?
They are South Slavs, they were part of Serbia empire, than they were liberated by Serbs from Ottomans (meanwhile Bulgarians did not wanted to fight Ottomans to liberate them from centuries of occupation).
North Macedonia is part of Macedonia which entered Serbian state after Balkan wars by their own people's will (other two parts went to Bulgaria and Greece).
If Serbia gave them and allowed them independence later be sure that Serbia will not let others take that away from them.
We won Bulgarians bunch of times in history, no matter how powerful it was. Do not tempt us.
You lost credits you had in history with Russia, Serbs are favored. Plus Serbs have China and 🧱. We do not want trouble, you do not need it.
There is no such thing as a "North Macedonian" - please correct. It should be "Macedonian."
In 2018 they signed the Prespa agreement and they changed the name of their country to: Republic of North Macedonia 🎉 It's official! Correct yourself 🎉
Плачи, шовинисте! Пирин, Егей и Преспа ке ги видите насън само!
@@supermodeinfinity5519 You need to read the actual agreement - then YOU can correct yourself.
Severna* 😂😂😂😂
@@mellake7052 Шовинист
The most cringe outro
It's funny how your channel name is named after a Middle Eastern dance, brought by the Ottoman Turks to the Balkans.
North Macedonia=Bulgaria
North macedonian language=Bulgarian language
Love from Hungary!
Do you know the history? Or you just watch youtube videos
@@salar1586 It's the truth.
@@salar1586 I know history.
@@krisztinakroo5254 You know f*ck all whit that sort of comment. Or this is how your Mu**et president is tiching you? Shame on you. Or maybe you a paid troll?
@@krisztinakroo5254 I thought that Hungarians love Macedonia because Hungary and Macedonia have got strong relations...
2 tŕashy countries 😂😂😂
At least we know what is safety unlike Brazil.
Why no dialogue between the people of Bulgarians and Macedonians. They have same culture, same history, same traditions, and both speak the same language.
Bulgars are tatars
@@RU-Aussie Then Macedonians are Tatars too.
@@HeroManNick132 MACEDONIANS ARE MACEDONIANS.
you - fool .
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Ти също!
@@RU-Aussie EVERY BEST ! ! ! Tatjana from MAKEDONIJA
Пендаровски, при твоята коминтерновска антибългарска политика какво очакваш!????????????????
Стево Пендаровски изплю камъчето - истинската история е заплаха и не трябва да бъде допускана дори и с цената на репресии.
По физиономията му можеш да определиш какъв е. Той не ти ли прилича на змия, защото на мен ми прилича? Няма как да опитомиш змия като него, щом се прави на жертвата, че българите били лошите, а пък те светиите!
❤️🇧🇬❤️🇧🇬❤️🇧🇬❤️🇧🇬Bulgaria! Macedonia is Bulgarian land !!!❤️🇧🇬👍
In your dreams tatari!! The Russians made you Bulgaria. You're lucky they gave you Tatari a country. Pirinska is Macedonia land that Bulgaria stole!! These lies you have started in the last 5 years. You are nothing but Tatari that is all. Go and get your own history you thieves
Id love to know what drugs u were on
@@lukapopovik2174 А ти на какви си?
I am Bulgarian and I hate what you are saying. It was never about the land, but the people.
@@antongeorgiev1089 so, Macedonia ppl are Bulgaria ppl. What I know
Every Macedonian if they go back enough will find out ottoman documents saying their relatives are "Bulgarian", not "Macedonian".
False!
@@kalashnikov3272not really
@@kalashnikov3272 Истината боли?
@@kalashnikov3272 EVERY GOOD ! ! ! Tatjana from MAKEDONIJA
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Ти си българка
I am a proud Australian-Macedonian, 91 years old, and I feel immense pride when I see the younger generation still fighting for an independent Macedonia. My roots run deep in this struggle; my ancestors, like theirs, were ethnic Macedonians. My parents hailed from Solun and Voden, parts of the Aegean section of Macedonia that were taken over by Greece. They, and I, have always identified as Macedonians, never as "Ethnic Bulgarians." The claim that Macedonian identity was invented in the 1940s by Bulgarophobic communist authorities in Yugoslav Macedonia is, in my view, a product of brainwashing and spreads a false narrative.
Macedonian identity has existed for thousands of years, and I firmly believe in it. My experiences tell me that only a few Bulgarians referred to themselves as Bulgarian-Macedonians, and that was only because they lived in the region, not due to ethnic identity. Those people were very few. Both Greece and Bulgaria, in my opinion, have attempted to usurp our history, both pre-Slavinic and post.
I stand strong in my belief that Macedonia will be united one day. The current state of Macedonia, in my eyes, offers the best rights for minorities, especially when compared to the situations in Bulgaria and Greece. Macedonians in Pirin Macedonia and Northern Greece continue to face discrimination. I urge others not to fall for what I see as paid propaganda, but to understand and recognize the deep and long-standing roots of Macedonian identity.
Brother! Thank you for sharing your story!
@@petar5387 my pleasure!
@GeorgeTeffoski-pq9cd А сред тези документи да намираш някъде изписано "македонски","македонска" %македонско"????????????????????????????
Уникални документи от ХІХ в. громят всички претенции за македонска историческа идентичност
Човечеството отдавна е търсело начин да удостовери истинността на даден текст и така се е достигнало до изобретяването на печата. Според Тълковния речник удостоверяващият или гербов печат е инструмент за заверка на правдивостта на един документ. Нашите предци добре са знаели това и по тази причина в средновековната българска държава аристократите са имали лични печати. Българските царе пък скрепвали своите грамоти със златни печати (хрисовули), без които документът за дарения на манастири и селища бил невалиден.
„Македонските българи през турското робство си служели било с лични, било с дружествени печати. Надписите на печатите били на български, гръцки или на турски език, а понякога едновременно на две езика. Не са редки случаите, когато българите си служели и с отпечатване на натопен в мастило палец върху съдебни актове, договори и просби.
Гръцко-българската църковна борба и отпорът на българите засилиха у българите още повече тоя навик. Българските църкви, монастири, църковни общини и еснафи захванаха да се именуват „български” и на своите печати. Това говори за събуждането и закрепването на националното чувство у македонските българи.
Така, още в 1817 г. българските шивачи в Солун се сдружават в един еснаф, който се именува в тяхната кондика:
Еснавъ терзıи бугарски у Солунъ.
Жителите на Велес в 1845 г. вече си имат училищен печат, на който се чете:
Велешкото българско училище, 1845.
От същата година е и печатът на училището в с. Бошино до Велес:
Печатъ: Башовското българско училище, 1845.
Прилепските шивачи строят в 1867 г. крило в Трескавечкия манастир и поставят над вратата надпис:
Иждивениемъ болгарскиот терзийски еснафъ, 1867.
От същата година българските хлебари-симитчии в Битоля си правят печат на български и на турски език:
Битоля+български симитчийски еснафъ, 1867 (тур. Битоля де булгар симитчи еснафи).
От 1860 г. е печатът на кръчмарския еснаф в Прилеп с надпис:
Еснавъ анджийски, български.
Печатът на битолския български папукчийски еснаф от 1870 г. е с надпис:
Болгарски еснафъ папукчии, 1870.
А ето и някои печати на български общини и читалища:
Блъгарска цръковна община в Солун.
Печатъ на Щипското общонародно блъгарско духовно правление, 1969.
Паланечка българска черковна община, 1869. (Крива Паланка - Н. О.)
Воденска българска община, 1870. (Воден, дн. Едеса в Гърция).
Воденска българска църковна община, 1870.
Българско читалище в Воденъ, 1870.
Ваташа булгарцка црковна опщина 1884 г. (Ваташа, дн. В Гърция - Н. О.).
Прочутия „Мемоар на българските църковно-училищни общини в Македония” от 20 май 1878 г. Това е протестно обръщение на македонските българи към Великите сили с искане за прилагане на Санстефанския договор и присъединяване на Македония към новосъздадената българска държава. В този апел слагат подписите си представителите на 21 български общини и просветно-културни дружества от всички краища на Македония. Срещу тях са отпечатаните с мастило печати на съответните организации. На повечето съзнателно е отбелязана националната идентичност на притежателите им:
Печатъ на Скопското българско общество, 1870; Печатъ на Прилепската българска община; Печатъ на българската община въ Битоля, 1870; Печатъ на Неготинската българска община, 1871; Печатъ на Гевгелийската българска община, 1871; Печатъ на Кукушката българска община; Печатъ на Солунската българска община; Печатъ на Тетовската българска община, 1869; Печатъ на Кумановската църковна община, 1870; Печатъ на Неврокопската българска община; Печатъ на Щипската българска община, Кюстендилска епархия; Печатъ на Сярската българска църковна община; Печатъ на Драмската българска църковна община.
Ето това е голата и неприкрита истина за демографската картина в Македония през ХІХ в.
@GeorgeTeffoski-pq9cd Членуваш ли в МПО??????????????????? Запознат ли си с тяхната борба???
Кога е била "свободна" МАКЕДОНИЯ - БЮРМ??????????????????????????????
Питсбърг
Интересен е фактът, че през 1968 г., делегатите на 47-мия конгрес на МПО/Македонски патриотични организации/, провел се в Питсбърг, единодушно гласуват Приветствие до народа в поробена Македония, в което се казва: „Днес, когато сме изправени пред Траурния ден за Македония..., когато червените империалисти от Белград... се мъчат с кървав терор и подли фалшификации да изменят народностния облик на Македония чрез погазване и отричане на българското име..., чрез нашия свободен конгрес, заедно с вас, ние изразяваме нашата погнуса от раболепните Титови аргати в Скопие, които се мъчат да фалшифицират историята, в чиито страници са рекордирани (записани, б. а.) славните борби на македонските българи. Заедно с вас, ние изказваме нашата погнуса и от сърбоманските професори в Скопския университет, които измислиха така наречения „македонски език“. Ние посочваме пред културния свят това нечестиво творение, като пример за флагрантно и коварно погазване на едно от свещените и неотменими човешки права“.
@@GeorgeTeffoski-pq9cd Don't worry grandpa, your immense dreams of being a nationalist and hoping for United Macedonia are almost over.
Take care of yourself instead of spreading hateful nationalism towards us. Understand? Greetings.
what political courage why he is scared to tell the truth everybody knows besides macedonians , they are ex bulgarians like it ore not and thats it , they can be who ever they want now but dont apropiate history from bulgaria just count the history as it from 1946 nothing before that is ore can be macedonian
Why you didn't react on time !
Why did you enter EU without Macedonian population !
Why you didn't use peaceful negotiation and wait to the final ending as gathered Slavs together in good and worse !
We are one nation Yugoslavia and you will never broke it .
You are not compatible after all these coments how from Kamchatka to Apenini all are Bulgarian around .
You must respect Macedonian nation if republic is registered Makedonia with Slav enlightened Macedonians .
You cannot! Because you have mentality of stealers as all Europeans are confirming !
There isn't place in Europe without famous Bulgarian burglars !
Macedonia as a state does not exist in any historical source from 148 BC to 1944. Samuel's father is a Bulgarian boyar - Nicholas and his Armenian mother Ripsimia. In Europe, all rulers are from mixed marriages, while in Bulgaria it was mandatory to have part of the royal blood and Nicholas was from the family of King Simeon. During the Middle Ages, the region of Macedonia was for the most part part of the Bulgarian state. Even in the Ottoman archives it was not written that there were Macedonians in these lands, and everyone decided for himself what to be
The biggest lie destroyer is Basil II Bulgarslayer. I wonder how he possibly can be ''Macedonslayer'' when there wasn't a book that said he was, because there weren't any Macedonians even lol.
Τhe funny thing about him Basili II is that he was one of the emperors of the Macedonian dynasty of Byzantium - that was the name of the dynasty that ruled in Constantinople at this era - Macedonian dynasty which of course spoke Greek.
@@nickanestos6363 And he had the nickname ''Bulgarslayer'' not ''Macedonslayer'' because such thing as Slavic Macedonian didn't exist.
@@HeroManNick132...............
b u d a l a .
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Само това ти е в главата!
The Republic of North Macedonia's (RNM) dispute with Greece was about separation, separating the modern Macedonian nationality from Hellenic history. That took 20 years or so to complete "on papers" but it is not implemented yet. In contrast, the dispute with Bulgaria is to make them acknowledge the similarity as documented in all historic documents existing until XIX and part of XX century. This will take longer (then 20 years) time to complete, but it will happen - because violation of human rights is involved. You can be a Macedonian in Bulgaria, but they claim they do not have Bulgarians in Macedonia. Serbia has caused all this, and RNM is in fact a Serbian province. No independence, friends!
Всички македонци са българи, това с македонизмът е простотия.
@@HeroManNick132............ ti ne si blgar.
IDIOT .
@@HeroManNick132 ZATOA STE SITE TEPANI VO MAKEDONIJA,I SO AVION NOSENI VO SOFIJA NA LECENJE
@@salvatoretotoriina9523 ''Авион?'' 🤣Казва се ''самолет,'' ама така е като викате, че не сте имали чуждици, а пък сте я взели тая дума от френски.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Имаш ли нещо по-смислено да кажеш?
Macedonia will be ours.
Както Ванга го е казала.
In ur dreams bud
@@lukapopovik2174 Посърбен смешник!
@@lukapopovik2174Лъчко пра пра дядо ти е бил Българин, пра дядо ти, дядо ти и баща ти са говорили на сръбски, ти как така си Македонец?
@@lukapopovik2174not this generation. The next one will learn about their Bulgarian roots. They will right the wrongs of their communist forefathers.
Nothing, not their country
Нито вашето име ''Македония'' е ваше, а крадено без никакъв срам!
Kontracioni logori za site Tatari, posebno za tie 0.19%
Grcite vi uzeli ime na drzava , bugari vi uzimaju jezik i istorija, siptari vi uzimaju teritorija, a vi mrzite Srbe, oni su za vas okupatori? Tako vam kazu vase nove gazde iz brisela i vasingtona. Mnogo mi je zao vas jadnih , pravoslavnih makedonaca, ali kako sejes tako i zanjes.
Татари-Матари, jугословенски глупости, факт е дека Бугарите и Словените се исто од пред 1200 години. Бугарскиот е Jужнословенски jазик веќе 1200 години. И Татарите се на оваа планета само од пред 800 години. Излегува дека не сте во контакт со здравиот разум. Бугарите на Волга биле поробени и асимилирани од Татарската Златна орда во 1240 година. Ве излажаа дека Бугарите се Татари и сега затоа што ве лажат од градинка и верувавте во овие глупости, се чудите како да се оправдате дека и вие не сте Татари. iGENEA најде бугаро-македонско генетско совпаѓање со разлика во рамките на статистичката грешка, а ти Бугарите ги сметаш за Татари, логично и ти си Татар по твојата логика, а и според науката. Глупав ќорсокак. За жал твоjот ум е во концентрационен логор.
@@patikica123 Глупости дрънкаш сърбе! Патката ти да е на върбе!
Bravo
@@salvatoretotoriina9523 Paid.
There is no such thing as "Macedonians", they are Bulgarians, their language is a parody of Bulgarian, their land is Bulgarian. 99% of things they have are Bulgarian, they just decided to proclaim otherwise for whatever reason, which doesn't make it true.
This is a lie … Macedonians are not Greek Bulgarian Serbian or Albanian.. never and never will be .. truth hurts our enemies..